Juno News - Ben Mulroney： “I’ve never seen this level of crime in Canada”

00:00:00.000 Welcome to The Candice Malcolm Show. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the

00:00:06.780 Canadian Taxpayers Federation, filling in for Candice this week. Thank you for making us a

00:00:11.160 part of your day. If you haven't done so yet, make sure you like and subscribe this video

00:00:15.420 and share it with your friends who need a healthy dose of red pills. Okay,

00:00:19.500 lots on the show for you today, and I'm pretty excited about today's guest. We're going to be

00:00:24.720 speaking with national talk show host Ben Mulroney. Now, you might be thinking to yourself,

00:00:31.160 isn't he that guy from eTalk that does all the red carpet interviews? Yes, he was, and if you were

00:00:36.180 into the celebrity scene, it was a pretty cool gig, but he actually has the big talk radio station now.

00:00:43.380 He has his own show. It's broadcast all the way out in Vancouver, all the way back into downtown Toronto,

00:00:48.840 and I was seeing some folks online. They're calling him Based Ben now. Why? Because he's

00:00:54.720 speaking out quite forcefully on things like government spending and crime. So I often see

00:01:01.780 talk radio as the bridge between what we're doing here at Juno News, what we do at the Canadian

00:01:07.660 Taxpayers Federation, what other independent media organizations are doing. Talk radio has always

00:01:14.040 been that kind of bridge between indie media and what the normies are doing over on mainstream media,

00:01:20.880 the MSM. So I've always thought it was important to at least listen to a few of the folks who are in

00:01:27.080 talk radio. Ben Mulroney is one of those talk show hosts. So we're super happy to be presenting him

00:01:32.480 today. So why are we talking to him? Because of course, the House of Commons is going to be back up and

00:01:38.640 running next week. So right now I can just picture it in downtown Ottawa. Staffers are buzzing. They're

00:01:45.120 cleaning up their offices because the boss is coming back. They're getting their briefing papers

00:01:49.200 ready. They're getting raring to go for a fall session of Parliament. They're getting ready for

00:01:54.420 the House of Commons, question period, committees, all of the fun stuff because the circus is going

00:01:59.360 to come back into town. And it was interesting. We got a little bit of a sneak peek. We've seen

00:02:04.260 Conservative leader Pierre Polyev now that he's secured his seat in Battle River Crowfoot. We've seen him

00:02:09.600 on camera much more often the past few days. And he was in Brampton, Ontario just a few minutes ago

00:02:15.680 making his announcement about what his government would do if he were a Prime Minister when it comes

00:02:21.880 to things like purchasing houses and taxes. Listen to this. Axe the federal sales tax for all homebuyers,

00:02:31.440 not just first-time homebuyers and for homes up to $1.3 million.

00:02:36.000 Two, axe the capital gains tax on any monies reinvested in homebuilding. So if a business or

00:02:46.020 an individual sells an asset, they enjoy a capital gain, but they reinvested in homebuilding,

00:02:51.180 there should be no capital gains tax. This will cause a building boom right across the country.

00:02:58.080 So once again, that was Conservative Party leader and leader of the opposition Pierre Polyev,

00:03:02.780 who is in Brampton, Ontario, making what I would call a re-announcement from his earlier election

00:03:07.860 platform, reiterating that his party would reduce taxes on the purchasing and the sales of homes.

00:03:15.640 Now, interestingly, I have noticed a bit of a tone change coming from Polyev when it comes to the size

00:03:21.320 of government. So what role will the size of the bureaucracy play once the House of Commons comes back

00:03:27.960 in? Because of course, now his riding is no longer right next to the capital. It's out here in Alberta,

00:03:35.220 and it's about as dark blue as you can get. So will the Conservatives start going hammer and tong

00:03:41.460 after the size and cost of government? We at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation certainly hope so,

00:03:48.000 because we'll put it this way. If the bureaucracy had stayed in line with the growth of the Canadian

00:03:55.380 population, meaning if bureaucrats hadn't just ballooned under former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau,

00:04:01.260 if it had kept pace with population growth, we'd be saving $7 billion a year. Yeah, it's an astonishing

00:04:10.980 amount of money. Speaking of astonishing and accountability, crime. Crime is definitely going

00:04:17.220 to be one of those big factors that not just the opposition party are going to be raising. I've

00:04:22.120 noticed now in the mainstream media, people are talking about it an awful lot more because we've

00:04:26.940 got some pretty awful headlines coming out of places like Ontario and frankly, in other locations across

00:04:32.880 Canada, which raises the issue of accountability. Really, who does the buck stop with? If we keep on

00:04:39.140 hearing about repeat offenders and catch and release and a huge cost to the justice system, but it's the

00:04:45.480 same characters that are doing these things over and over again, who ultimately is responsible for making

00:04:52.140 those changes. Now for anyone who wants to hear about what's actually happening on the ground and how

00:04:58.260 people are feeling, I would strongly recommend tuning in to local talk radio when you can, because then you get

00:05:05.400 first person accounts, and you get a really good ear for how people are feeling on the ground. Are they concerned about

00:05:13.920 things like super high taxes? Are they concerned about the ballooning bloated cost of government? And most

00:05:20.040 importantly, for our next interview, are they concerned about crime? And how can an average person actually get

00:05:28.060 accountability when it comes to things like crime and justice? Let's find out. Joining me now is Ben Mulrooney. Ben Mulrooney is a

00:05:37.760 national radio host with the Chorus Radio Network. I have been tuning in to his show quite regularly.

00:05:43.880 And Ben, when I miss it, I really love catching up on the podcast on the weekends.

00:05:48.500 Ben Mulrooney Yeah, well, that's how media is these days, right? You got to find people where they are. And so we're on the radio or a podcast, we're on streaming apps, we're on social media, we're on YouTube.

00:05:57.880 You got to find people wherever they are.

00:05:59.880 Yeah, big time. All right. So one of the main reasons I like listening to your show, and I also like listening to people like Brian Lilly and Alex Pearson, because you guys kind of give us a conduit between what I would call this form of media, like indie media, right? Independent media, and the normies over at mainstream media.

00:06:18.540 So talk radio is that bridge between those two worlds. And you talk to people who are on the ground. I hear people calling into your show about experiences they have. You've been teeing off lately a lot on crime, things like home invasions. Why is that, man?

00:06:33.800 Well, first of all, let me just say kudos to the people at Chorus Radio. I've been doing this for not very long, almost a year on this show. And not a single time have I ever been asked to say something or if I've said anything, has it been challenged by the powers that be I've been given unfettered right to say whatever's on my mind. And I'm very, very grateful to be able to play in this sandbox. Why is well, listen, in my entire life, I've never, I've never seen this level of crime.

00:07:03.780 In Canada. I mean, there was, I remember back when I was on entertainment television, I, I sat with Michael Moore at the, at the Toronto International Film Festival. He was premiering bowling for Columbine. And he was trying to point out how peaceful Canada was compared to the United States, because we didn't have as many guns. And one of the things that he contended was that Torontonians didn't lock their doors. And to prove that he literally just walked into somebody's house. I pointed out that I didn't think that was true because I locked my door, but he didn't want to hear that. But that was a stereotype that we were all more than happy to imagine.

00:07:33.780 embrace back in the day. I don't know a single person that doesn't lock their door. If people could afford the bollards to protect their car, they have done so. And, and we are, we're, we're, we're living in a time where it does not feel safe.

00:07:48.780 Whether or not that's an accurate representation, because there are people who push back on me saying, oh, crime is down. Okay. I don't care if crime is down. Relative to the way it was 20 years ago, crime is up.

00:07:59.780 And people are panicked and people are scared and people are looking at their neighbors as if they might, they might have ill will in their heart.

00:08:08.780 And that is not how we used to do things. And so I'm not, I I've been accused of rage farming. I think in the world we're living in a little bit of rage is worth it.

00:08:17.780 If you are not rageful against what has happened to the country, then, then you're part of the problem.

00:08:22.780 I wanted to play a clip here because it really rang bells across Canada and you've, I'm sure you've heard it many times. It is from the York region and it's a police officer saying what you should do if someone breaks into your home. Let's listen.

00:08:36.780 In the unlikely event that you find yourself the victim of a home invasion, we are urging citizens not to take matters into their own hands.

00:08:44.780 While we don't want homeowners to feel power powerless, we urge you to call 911 and do everything you can to keep yourself and loved ones safe until police arrive and be the best witness possible.

00:08:56.780 This could mean locking yourself in a room away from the perpetrators, hiding, fleeing the home, but don't engage unless absolutely necessary.

00:09:05.780 When we have a weekend like we just had, it's easy to understand our community is feeling unsafe.

00:09:11.780 But let me say this once again, this does remain a safe place to live and our service is doing everything possible to investigate these crimes and to maintain public safety.

00:09:22.780 So Ben, you and I have been in the arena for quite a while. We know what's going on here, I think.

00:09:28.780 Who do we hold accountable? Because we get emails all the time too, even at the Taxpayers Federation of like, what is with these same repeat offenders over and over?

00:09:35.780 Where does the buck stop? Because this is the government and it is about accountability. Where does the buck stop?

00:09:40.780 Well, look, a couple of things. First, I've got to say that anytime somebody puts on a uniform to protect their community, I have a lot of respect for them.

00:09:48.780 So I have a lot of respect for that police chief, just like I do the men and women in uniform who go out each and every day and put themselves on the line to make sure that I can live the life that I want to lead.

00:09:59.780 The police are not the problem. They've never been the problem. They're the same police force they were 20 years ago.

00:10:04.780 It's the laws on the books that they are asked to enforce or the interpretation of the laws that are already on the books.

00:10:10.780 For example, a lot of people pushed back on me and said, oh, well, if you've got a problem with how people protect their homes, blame Stephen Harper in 2013.

00:10:17.780 He was the one who put the law on the books as it is today, except it's interpreted differently than it was.

00:10:23.780 And so that is one of the problems. On top of that, we are not living in Canada of 2013.

00:10:28.780 We have a completely different demographic. We have the people committing these crimes.

00:10:33.780 Possibly some of them weren't here back then. And so, yeah, there are forces at play that did not exist back then.

00:10:39.780 Look, my biggest problem with something like that is it denies the human experience to ask you to keep your composure in your home.

00:10:49.780 Look, if I'm walking down the street and somebody shows up with a knife and says, give me your wallet.

00:10:53.780 Yeah, take my wallet. That doesn't matter as much as my life. That makes sense.

00:10:57.780 You come into my home in the middle of the night. I do not know what I'm liable to do. I have no idea.

00:11:03.780 You have crossed the threshold into the one place I treat as my safe place in the world.

00:11:08.780 I've earned it. I've paid for it. It's mine.

00:11:10.780 And so that's why I'm a proponent of at least exploring the idea of this CASEL legislation that Pierre Poliev is putting forth because it recognizes human nature.

00:11:20.780 It not only does it do that, but it makes the criminal reevaluate their calculus. Right now, of course, they're going to come into your house because they know you don't have a gun.

00:11:31.780 They know you can't defend yourself. And if you defend yourself too strongly, you're going to be able to you get to be the victim.

00:11:37.780 And so, of course, they're going to want to leverage that situation to squeeze as much ill-gotten gain out of this possible.

00:11:44.780 But if the calculus changes and they walk in and they know that they might not walk out, well, all of a sudden the risk profile changes and maybe they stop doing that.

00:11:53.780 So I like exploring that as a possibility. Where does the where does the buck stop?

00:11:58.780 It stops with it stops with, you know, this this social engineering that we have been enjoying as a nation for the better part of a decade.

00:12:06.780 This this nonsense that we have to be looking at the underlying root causes of crime and criminals. I'm done with that. I'm tired of that.

00:12:14.780 People are doing crimes because they want to be doing crimes and they are infringing on the rights of everyday law abiding citizens.

00:12:20.780 And until the government in Ottawa decides that they're going to do something about that, it's not going to change.

00:12:26.780 I think some of the onus has to be put on the provinces as well, specifically in in in Ontario. We don't have enough jail space.

00:12:33.780 So so of course you're going to be letting people out for crimes where they should be spending the night in jail.

00:12:38.780 So we need we need absolutely more jails built in the province of Ontario.

00:12:42.780 But if I have to, I mean, in order of reports goes feds, province and then everybody else.

00:12:48.780 I'm going to do a little bit of journalism inside baseball here, but it's for a good reason.

00:12:53.780 So when I was finishing J school at the end of the 1990s, we had so many court reporters back then, Ben.

00:12:59.780 It was you'd know just from your experience, too. And like full disclosure, Ben and I worked together and many moons ago back at different corporations.

00:13:06.780 And so back then the court was so often covered that if you would sit at the front benches, there was little plaques in front of it for all the major news outlets like Vancouver Sun, Vancouver Province, BCTV.

00:13:18.780 This is back from my Vancouver days. And it was just standard operating procedure that if you were the court reporter, you would just walk into the court, run your finger down, check the docket, find out what the criminal code infraction accusation was, cover the case every single day.

00:13:33.780 And it wasn't just some high profile biker case that you heard about from other media. No, it was your job to sit there and cover court, naming judges, listing rap sheets, listing the sentencing.

00:13:46.780 I was at Canada Strong and Free Conference over the weekend, and one of my old colleagues was talking about perhaps starting something like a court watch where we have court reporters again.

00:13:57.780 It would have to be independent. And then you start naming like respectfully and properly, but in a journalistic fashion, you start naming these judges more often.

00:14:06.780 And you start listing the rap sheets of some of these perpetrators. Do you think that would be a good mechanism of accountability for people?

00:14:14.780 Well, I mean, it's a slippery slope into going from the responsibility that you would definitely bring to that to the less responsible naming and shaming with the purpose of shaming.

00:14:25.780 Your point of doing it would be to affect change. There are others out there who would abuse of that and they would do it specifically with the point of putting a target on certain people's backs.

00:14:35.780 So in principle, in theory, it sounds like a good idea. I think it would have to be really well established amongst, as you said, the independent media to make sure that there were guardrails in place, because I certainly would never want to be part of something that started really well and then eventually just turned into a mob.

00:14:52.780 But listen, it's a noble goal. And I do think these things cannot exist without consequence.

00:15:02.780 I mean, letting somebody out that, you know, has been a repeat offender and they've done it four or five, six times and then the seventh time they do it, somebody dies.

00:15:12.780 Well, the writing was on the wall. The person told you who they were and you had you had the possibility you could have pulled at levers that would have at least limited their their freedom to the point that they couldn't do that thing that they just did.

00:15:25.780 And so, yeah, if something like that happens, I don't know that it's a net negative to start. Look, you got to watch the watchers.

00:15:35.780 You do. You do. And it's about accountability. I wanted to shift gears slightly. And that is the House of Commons is coming back.

00:15:42.780 The circus is coming back to town. You've got a lot of experience living in Ottawa, living in this environment.

00:15:48.780 Do you think crime is going to be one of the top issues? Do you think we're going to fall back to affordability?

00:15:53.780 Because I'm shocked every I'm sure you read the same report, the MNP report, where they ask people, like, how are you doing financially?

00:16:00.780 And Ben, it's always around 50 percent of people are within 200 bucks every month of not being able to make basic bill payments. It's wild.

00:16:08.780 Yeah. Well, look, I'm not I I promised my listeners that I wasn't going to prosecute the previous the last election.

00:16:15.780 I'm not going to be in spoke. They made their decision. I personally thought it was the wrong decision. But but I've I've I've now moved on to the the here and now.

00:16:22.780 That being said, I think a lot of people are viewing the fear of Donald Trump as something that is receding.

00:16:28.780 And therefore, all of those things that were important to them before the specter of the big bad orange man was raised, those things are rising in importance again.

00:16:37.780 And so I think in a lot of ways we are reestablishing what was important and what is now important again.

00:16:45.780 So I think those things that that were of benefit to Pierre Polyev at a time where he didn't need it and he needed it during the election, those are becoming important again.

00:16:54.780 So as the leader of the opposition, I have no doubt that he is going to be beating that drum, hopefully differently, hopefully with in a way to show people that he's learnt from the loss.

00:17:04.780 But I think affordability, crime absolutely are two things that are going to be things that he's going to try to highlight.

00:17:11.780 And if the and this government in an attempt to demonstrate that they are the agent of change, even though they are the agent of change for a government that they are essentially of the same government.

00:17:23.780 I think it would be incumbent upon them to take immediate steps on these things.

00:17:28.780 And look, we've got a prime minister who's been more than willing to cast aside defining aspects of this previous government.

00:17:35.780 One that is this important crime is should should be a no brainer layup.

00:17:41.780 I can't help it. I have to ask you a couple of palace intrigue questions.

00:17:45.780 Sure. So we saw we saw Mark Carney, who I will remind people, like literally wrote a book about how much he loves carbon taxes.

00:17:52.780 Credit where it's due, he got rid of the consumer carbon tax.

00:17:56.780 That's why gas is about 20 cents cheaper per litre.

00:17:58.780 Now, we know he's cooking up a big industrial one, but as of right now, he did get rid of it.

00:18:02.780 And he's climbing out of the EV mandate tree, like slowly, but he's doing it.

00:18:08.780 So I got to ask you, I'm watching it pretty closely.

00:18:11.780 Do you see a split happening between the Stefan Gibos?

00:18:15.780 Like I would ban all of them if I possibly could and keep all oil in the ground.

00:18:19.780 And what Mark Carney is at least shaping up to be of more of a blue Tory.

00:18:24.780 Do you see a wedge there?

00:18:25.780 Yeah, maybe. Look, I remember when when everyone was trying to get rid of Justin Trudeau,

00:18:30.780 the party line is to why why people couldn't get rid of him is because they said he doesn't owe anybody anything.

00:18:36.780 He brought that party back from the brink. They were in the third place. He brought them back.

00:18:40.780 They wouldn't be where they were without him.

00:18:42.780 You can say the exact same thing about Mark Carney.

00:18:44.780 Without him, that party is in third, possibly fourth place.

00:18:48.780 They owe absolutely everything to him.

00:18:50.780 As far as I'm concerned, he holds all the cards.

00:18:53.780 And if a person like Stefan Gibos, for his own reasons and say what you will, he's got the courage of his convictions.

00:18:59.780 They're just not mine.

00:19:01.780 But if he decides he wants this is not the party for him, I think I think the country is better off.

00:19:07.780 I think to have one less view like that in cabinet, probably a good thing.

00:19:12.780 And and so is there a schism coming? Probably.

00:19:15.780 But it's not a schism that is going to hurt the prime minister in any way,

00:19:19.780 unless what we're talking about is the numbers game.

00:19:22.780 Does he have enough support to to keep this minority government going? 0.99

00:19:26.780 I'm going to push back a tiny bit on you, Mr. Mulroney.

00:19:30.780 Yes.

00:19:31.780 Mr. Carney does not have the same sort of name cache that Mr. Trudeau did.

00:19:37.780 So there's a branding thing here.

00:19:39.780 I think a little bit isn't there within this party?

00:19:42.780 Oh, I don't think so.

00:19:43.780 I think Mark Carney is made by I think Mark Carney is.

00:19:46.780 I mean, think about how many how many MPs were going to retire to spend time with family only to come back because his coattails were as long as they were.

00:19:54.780 And he's he's still enjoying a significant honeymoon period.

00:19:58.780 Rightly so.

00:19:59.780 That's that this is the time to do that because not much has happened yet.

00:20:03.780 And so, yeah.

00:20:05.780 Is he a Trudeau? No, but he's creating his own mythos.

00:20:08.780 And the liberals love creating a mythos around people.

00:20:10.780 They tried to do it with Ignatieff. That didn't work.

00:20:13.780 But it seems to be working very, very well with Mark Carney.

00:20:15.780 And to be fair, he he's got the biggest brain in the room and he does seem to be working at a pace.

00:20:22.780 Look, I don't know about you, Chris, but I do not envy anyone in a position of power right now, given how many intersecting crises we have and they have to deal with.

00:20:31.780 I mean, you can't you can't deal with affordability without dealing with the Chinese tariffs.

00:20:37.780 You can't deal with crime without dealing with immigration and so on and so on. 1.00

00:20:41.780 I have I'm glad I don't have that job because I have no idea how one would approach it.

00:20:46.780 He does seem to be approaching it by doing a lot of the front loading his his schedule with with prep work so that he can then give us something later on.

00:20:57.780 At least that's the optimist in me speaking.

00:21:00.780 But no, I don't think he owes anybody anything.

00:21:02.780 And I think whatever he wants to do, he's going to be able to do.

00:21:05.780 Interesting.

00:21:06.780 I always get a kick out of the folks.

00:21:07.780 It's like I'm going to go spend time with my family.

00:21:09.780 And here they are a few months later.

00:21:11.780 They shipped you back.

00:21:12.780 All right.

00:21:13.780 So so great stuff here.

00:21:15.780 Now, what what comes next for you?

00:21:17.780 I you I don't know if you want to say on the air, but you've got a big interview lined up and then you're also you're going to be doing the TV spot for a bit.

00:21:23.780 Yes. So I'm in I'm in Winnipeg right now because I'm here as part of my my work with B'nai B'rith Canada.

00:21:29.780 I'm a national ambassador and there have they're celebrating their 150th anniversary.

00:21:34.780 They're having a gala at the Museum of Human Rights.

00:21:36.780 And the guest of honor is Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

00:21:39.780 We're going to be in conversation on stage tomorrow night.

00:21:42.780 And one of two things is going to happen.

00:21:43.780 I might be able to bring parts of that conversation to the listeners of the Ben Mulroney show on Thursday.

00:21:49.780 Or if I'm lucky, I'm going to have the prime minister in studio for a separate conversation.

00:21:53.780 So very excited about that.

00:21:55.780 And on Sunday, people who tune in regularly to West Block, the number one political conversation show on television, they are going to have a new host, at least temporarily.

00:22:06.780 Mercedes Stevenson is off on that leave.

00:22:09.780 And so the caretaker role falls to one Ben Mulroney.

00:22:12.780 And I'm very, very proud and very humbled and very excited.

00:22:16.780 And as I said a little bit earlier today, to those people who think that I only have one speed and they think that, oh, the Ben Mulroney from the Ben Mulroney show can't host that show.

00:22:26.780 I say the person you are at the party on Saturday night is not the person you are in church on Sunday.

00:22:31.780 And so same person, completely different space, completely different role.

00:22:36.780 It's not my show.

00:22:37.780 So I have every intention of honoring that and making sure I hand it back to Mercedes in better shape than I found it.

00:22:43.780 You know, what you said at the outset, and I just have to say about giving free reign at Chorus Radio, I think that really matters because I spent a long time in mainstream media.

00:22:54.780 And to put it nicely, there's some trust issues now.

00:22:57.780 There's major trust issues now for especially folks who are watching this show.

00:23:01.780 And that's again, why I find talk radio shows really good, because I think it's building that bridge back.

00:23:08.780 And so good on you for taking on head on some of these really hard topics and good on your employer for handing you the reins for a major TV show.

00:23:16.780 Good luck.

00:23:17.780 Thank you, Chris.

00:23:18.780 And I look forward to reversing this once again, where I can interview you on my show.

00:23:22.780 Anytime.

00:23:23.780 Thanks so much.

00:23:24.780 Bye bye.

00:23:25.780 Bye bye.

00:23:26.780 Brian Mulroney, of course, the son of the late Prime Minister Brian Mulroney.

00:23:31.780 Again, folks might remember him from eTalk.

00:23:33.780 And I used to work with him back when I was at CTV, too.

00:23:36.780 And I must say when I first tuned into his talk radio show, it was not the same host I was expecting.

00:23:43.780 And so he often tackles things like carbon taxes and freedom of speech and censorship and crime.

00:23:51.780 So if you're into talk radio, it is a national show.

00:23:54.780 And I do think it's important to try to build a bit of a bridge.

00:23:58.780 Right.

00:23:59.780 Have a supply line.

00:24:00.780 Have a communications line open between our realm here in independent media and advocacy groups like the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:24:09.780 And what's happening over there with the MSM, with mainstream media.

00:24:14.780 And talk radio, especially those who've been in the industry for a long time and have their own podcasts, are given a bit more freedom.

00:24:21.780 And they listen to normal people on the street much more often than you see in the studios in downtown Toronto and Ottawa.

00:24:29.780 So let me know what you think.

00:24:31.780 Let me know in the comments what you thought about that interview.

00:24:33.780 Let me know if you would like to have Ben get back as a guest.

00:24:37.780 And most importantly, this is where your hero conversations like this.

00:24:42.780 OK, it isn't very often, frankly, that you'll get one of kind of the stars of a mainstream media to come speak directly to independent media.

00:24:49.780 So I see a bit of a crack of light in the door here.

00:24:53.780 Do you like that?

00:24:54.780 Do you want more conversations happening like this?

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Juno News - September 09, 2025

Ben Mulroney： “I’ve never seen this level of crime in Canada”

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