Juno News - February 12, 2019


BREAKING： Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet


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00:00:00.000 Hello and good afternoon everyone my name is Andrew Lott and a fellow with True
00:00:05.160 North here for another True North report this time on a bit of a different
00:00:10.400 schedule in a different day than normal I typically do these on actually you
00:00:14.600 know we don't have like a fixed schedule I just typically end up doing them on
00:00:17.800 Wednesday or Thursday but I wanted to break with that to unpack and really
00:00:23.480 delve into some of the breaking news that we're seeing unfold in Canadian
00:00:27.400 politics this week mainly I'm not even gonna you know tee up a bunch of other
00:00:32.220 stuff because the big story is the resignation from cabinet of Jody Wilson
00:00:37.180 Raybould Jody Wilson Raybould is the veterans or was until this morning the
00:00:41.980 Veterans Affairs Minister but most notably she was the Attorney General who
00:00:47.560 claims that the PMO tried to pressure her to intervene in the prosecution of SNC
00:00:53.020 Lavalin a liberal connected and quite frankly corruption ridden firm in
00:00:58.960 Montreal and what is so fascinating about this I want to walk you through the
00:01:04.120 timeline here because the story that started this all the Globe and Mail report
00:01:09.100 citing unnamed sources started last week on I think Thursday morning Thursday
00:01:15.640 morning Globe and Mail comes out with the story saying that the PMO tried to
00:01:20.560 pressure Jody Wilson Raybould Trudeau denies this says that they're false and
00:01:25.480 that he never directed and this is the key word that Justin Trudeau nor anyone in
00:01:30.640 his office direct no he says they didn't so Jody Wilson Raybould has been very
00:01:37.800 tight-lipped on this whole thing she has claimed solicitor client privilege says that
00:01:42.580 she can't comment on it because that would be violating the sacred relationship
00:01:47.560 that a lawyer has with their client and the secrecy that is supposed to be at the
00:01:51.760 center there her client is the government of Canada or was when she was
00:01:56.000 the Attorney General the government of Canada and we often view the Minister of
00:02:00.940 Justice in the role as a cabinet minister that oversees the Justice Department
00:02:05.440 which is valid but in the cases like these the Attorney General has a very
00:02:10.040 specific role it is the government's chief lawyer and when push comes to shove her job
00:02:15.360 is to go to bat for the government and the point that I made in a video I produced
00:02:20.460 on this yesterday I think was that when you are the Attorney General for the
00:02:26.340 government that means that you are representing the people you can't
00:02:30.060 represent the government without actually representing the people that that
00:02:33.940 government is supposed to represent and I know that sounds like a convoluted
00:02:37.140 sentence but the point I'm trying to make there is that her accountability
00:02:40.360 should not lie or end with the Prime Minister but her accountability should
00:02:44.460 extend and to an end with the people of Canada and to be clear this is not an
00:02:50.580 indictment of Jodi Wilson-Raybould because at this point it sounds like she
00:02:54.220 actually is the only one that has a level of moral clarity about what's going on
00:02:58.980 here this is the first indigenous woman to ever be the Attorney General of Canada
00:03:03.780 the highest ranking position that an Aboriginal person has ever had in the
00:03:08.300 Canadian government and as of this morning she has resigned she is gone from the
00:03:14.280 cabinet although she is still remaining as a Liberal member of Parliament there
00:03:18.900 was a report from one writer with APTN who said that Jodi Wilson-Raybould was
00:03:25.060 going to citizen independent that wasn't true it was a kind of a
00:03:28.220 miscommunication Jodi Wilson-Raybould still an MP still a Liberal MP but not a
00:03:33.780 cabinet member and what's so important about this is that excuse me there's
00:03:39.540 something that is paramount in government called cabinet secrecy or cabinet
00:03:43.500 confidence which means anything that's discussed in the course of being in a
00:03:47.280 cabinet meeting is protected you cannot share it not even with your own staff
00:03:51.740 unless they're given the same classification so now that she is no longer in
00:03:57.780 cabinet even if she is a Liberal she's got a lot more flexibility and a lot more
00:04:03.060 latitude when it comes to criticizing what the government's doing and when we
00:04:08.760 look at Jodi Wilson-Raybould's resignation letter we see exactly where
00:04:13.940 we're likely to find some cracks forming I want to read this for you if you
00:04:19.260 haven't encountered it yet it was written this morning she writes the
00:04:23.120 following with a heavy heart I am writing to tender my resignation as Minister of
00:04:28.320 Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defense I want to thank all
00:04:32.820 Canadians and in particular the residents of Vancouver Granville who put their
00:04:39.120 trust in me and supported me as Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
00:04:43.020 and as the Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defense
00:04:47.120 when I sought federal elected office it was with the goal of implementing a
00:04:52.500 positive and progressive vision of change on behalf of all Canadians and a
00:04:57.540 different way of doing politics my resignation as a Minister of the Crown in
00:05:01.860 no way changes my commitment to seeing that fundamental change achieved the work
00:05:06.600 must and will carry on to Canadian veterans and their families I have the
00:05:11.100 deepest admiration and respect for you the decision is in no way a reflection of
00:05:15.840 my desire to see your service and sacrifice upheld and honored I only wish that I
00:05:19.920 could have served you longer to my officials and ministerial staff thank you for your hard work in the
00:05:25.800 service of all Canadians I am truly grateful for all that you have done and
00:05:29.340 will continue to do I am aware that many Canadians wish for me to speak on
00:05:35.580 matters that have been in the media over the last week I am in the process of
00:05:41.100 obtaining advice on the topics that I am legally permitted to discuss in this
00:05:45.000 matter and does such have retained the counsel of the Honorable Thomas Albert
00:05:50.740 Cromwell CC again my thanks to all Canadians regardless of background geography or party
00:05:56.940 affiliation we must stand together for the values that Canada is built on and
00:06:01.660 which are the foundation for our future I look forward to continuing to serve as
00:06:06.580 the Member of Parliament for Vancouver grand bill okay a couple of takeaways here
00:06:13.020 number one she does not in this letter at all ever thank Justin Trudeau she doesn't thank her
00:06:20.060 colleagues in cabinet she says that she's grateful to Canadians to her constituents
00:06:25.100 to her staff no thank you for giving her the opportunity to serve so as Robin Urbach
00:06:30.380 from CBC said in a tweet this is very much a cold breakup if ever there was one but
00:06:35.780 then we compound this with Justin Trudeau's offices statement and they issued the
00:06:41.600 following last night the Prime Minister spoke with Jody Wilson-Raybould who
00:06:45.680 informed him she was tendering her resignation from Cabot the cabinet the
00:06:50.020 Prime Minister convened a cabinet meeting this morning to inform his
00:06:53.420 cabinet colleagues of Ms. Wilson-Raybould's resignation the Prime Minister also
00:06:59.000 spoke with Minister Sajan who immediately assumes responsibilities acting as
00:07:03.840 Acting Minister of Veterans Affairs the Prime Minister will be in Winnipeg later
00:07:07.520 today and will hold a press conference at which he will answer questions from the media
00:07:11.600 so when we put those two together we have a statement from Jody Wilson-Raybould in
00:07:17.480 which she does not even acknowledge that Trudeau was the one that put her there
00:07:21.860 and then we have a statement from Trudeau which doesn't acknowledge in any way any
00:07:26.540 sense of gratitude to the service that Jody Wilson-Raybould has already
00:07:30.600 contributed to her country so this proves that we're not just talking about some
00:07:35.600 combination of letters here that tells us that this is all part of a plan this is
00:07:42.140 very much an acrimonious split and I think that Trudeau was honestly
00:07:47.600 blindsided by this I genuinely believe that he thought she was going to play ball
00:07:52.540 and stay quiet and I'll tell you why I think that because just 24 hours ago which
00:07:59.160 is I realize a lifetime in politics but just 24 hours ago Trudeau was out answering
00:08:04.420 questions about this sort of and he had said that he welcomed an investigation
00:08:10.440 and we'll talk about the ethics commissioner the federal ethics
00:08:13.180 commissioner is investigating this but Trudeau said the following that she would
00:08:19.020 have resigned from cabinet if she had felt improperly pressured his exact quote in
00:08:24.240 our system of government of course her presence in cabinet should actually speak
00:08:29.460 for itself to just take that in her presence in cabinet should actually speak
00:08:38.220 for itself so Trudeau Trudeau surrogates Trudeau spokespeople and spin doctors try
00:08:44.340 to make the claim that oh well if she had that many that big of an issue with how
00:08:47.760 things are going in the Trudeau cabinet she wouldn't be there and then you fast
00:08:51.400 forward a day and she's gone from cabinet she's saying I'm out so they made a
00:08:56.340 calculation in using that line a calculation in using that line that I
00:09:02.940 think has now been a profound failure because she's not in cabinet and the
00:09:06.840 fact that she took such a personal sacrifice because her political career
00:09:11.640 in the Liberal Party of Canada under Justin Trudeau right now is done if the
00:09:15.720 Liberal Party changes if Trudeau flips out for someone else if they lose
00:09:19.260 different story but under this particular government she has no future now so by
00:09:25.200 resigning from cabinet and by doing it in this way she is genuinely putting her
00:09:32.640 career on the line now I want to make a couple of points here I do not believe
00:09:38.640 that she is standing up for the values that I want a politician to stand up for
00:09:44.440 ideologically she's not someone who stands up for the things that I care about
00:09:48.420 but I do believe from this whole chapter with everything we've heard that she is
00:09:52.300 behaving and acting with integrity and Trudeau I don't like the stuff he's doing
00:09:57.460 but I also resent even more that there is no integrity there is no integrity right
00:10:05.140 now in what Justin Trudeau is doing and everyone's saying oh she should cross the
00:10:10.200 floor across the floor across the floor I honestly find that to be a really dumb
00:10:15.280 idea for two reasons number one she's still a liberal she ran for the liberals
00:10:19.360 because she believes in in what the Liberal Party believes she's not a
00:10:22.580 conservative by any stretch and I don't think the conservative should be
00:10:26.040 welcoming non-conservatives into the ranks just because they happen to share a
00:10:30.520 common enemy maybe she has some alignment with the NDP and her being from
00:10:35.800 Vancouver if she is going to switch parties before the election it's a lot
00:10:40.100 safer to go NDP if you're representing Vancouver Granville than it is to go
00:10:44.560 conservative but I want to get into this in a bit more detail I want to read some
00:10:48.520 comments here first we've got let's see a lot of people saying hi hi hi hello to
00:10:53.800 you all we have Thomas who writes I honestly hope she can be truthful for all
00:10:58.780 of Canada yeah I mean this solicitor client privilege thing is the most
00:11:02.680 significant part of this because if Justin Trudeau genuinely cared about
00:11:07.420 accountability and transparency he could as the head of the government in
00:11:11.520 Canada waive that solicitor client privilege he could say full stop yes
00:11:17.620 absolutely I'm an open book anyone can talk about this he's not doing that
00:11:21.900 Kim writes Jody Wilson-Raybould has nothing to thank Justin Trudeau for he is a
00:11:27.380 disgrace to Canada well I think that there's a lot of agreement that you'll
00:11:31.600 find Kim my point is that typically politicians will even if they don't
00:11:35.600 believe it give the cursory oh yes and my thanks to so-and-so for doing this and
00:11:40.580 this and this and the fact that there wasn't even like a casual thank you in
00:11:44.360 there speaks volumes let's see Rosemary writes the ethics commissioner there's a
00:11:51.260 joke well yeah and I'm gonna get to that in a few moments because in all
00:11:55.700 honesty the ethics commissioner has investigated Trudeau in the past and what
00:12:01.000 do we have to show for it I mean pay $500 apologize for taking a private
00:12:05.720 certification this if he's found guilty will be the fifth ethics violation and
00:12:09.800 that is very much significant Rhonda writes I can imagine that she has been
00:12:16.040 threatened I can imagine what she has been threatened with by Trudeau well
00:12:19.060 career ruin mint is is probably what the threat is Robin writes what's her next
00:12:24.280 move I'll answer that in a second Robin Judy writes lawyer to see what she can
00:12:29.040 legally divulge we've got so many comments here we'll try to keep up with
00:12:33.240 these as the show goes on so I want to answer that question that was posed by
00:12:38.460 Robin what's her next move and this dovetails on what Judy said about getting
00:12:44.300 the lawyer so this lawyer that she has secured for herself Cromwell is a Supreme
00:12:49.420 Court or retired Supreme Court justice so we're talking about someone here who is
00:12:54.660 kind of among the best in Canada and certainly the most reputable and she's
00:13:01.000 getting a lawyer to in her words decide and figure out what it is that she can
00:13:05.540 share publicly and what she can't and this suggests that we're very likely to
00:13:10.000 see something in the way of a tell-all very soon Robin so it's possible that
00:13:16.000 this will be some full-length interview with Rosie Barton it's possible she'll
00:13:20.320 write some extended op-ed I mean I think that she's going to do some full-length
00:13:24.340 sit-down interview it won't be with me I'll try it won't be with me she'll pick
00:13:28.180 like the CBC or something because remember she still is very much in
00:13:32.260 alignment with what the Liberals are about she took a stand however for due
00:13:37.540 process in the rule of law and she found that the current incarnation of the
00:13:41.620 Liberal Party in the reports that we're seeing does not stand up for that rule
00:13:47.080 of law and that's the big issue here so I don't think that anyone saying will she
00:13:55.100 cross the Conservatives will she I don't think that's gonna happen I think she's
00:13:58.340 helping the Conservatives I think she's very much I mean the Conservatives are
00:14:02.600 very much going to be the ones driving her story but I do not believe for a
00:14:08.240 second that she is a conservative and you may remember when Leona Alislev the
00:14:14.620 former Liberal MP from I think Newmarket Aurora crossed to the Liberals in the
00:14:18.740 summer I had a very similar frustration which is okay that's fine that she's
00:14:22.660 frustrated with the Liberals the Conservatives shouldn't be welcoming her
00:14:25.880 with open arms unless they have a shared foundation of values and right now the
00:14:31.600 only shared foundation of values between the Liberals and or the Conservatives and
00:14:35.380 Jody Wilson-Raybould is a belief that Trudeau has royally screwed up and that may
00:14:41.040 not be enough to make her a conservative but it is enough to make her a key
00:14:45.280 pillar and I think what the Conservatives and for that matter the People's
00:14:48.940 Party and even the NDP should be doing right now which is calling on Trudeau to
00:14:53.860 answer questions you have to remember here Justin Trudeau was the captain of
00:14:59.680 transparency and accountability and openness when he was using those words
00:15:03.820 and pretty much every interview and every media statement back in 2013 2014
00:15:09.160 2015 and I have a video coming out tomorrow that's looking at that just a
00:15:13.840 bunch of tweets from him saying the Prime Minister needs to testify under oath sign the
00:15:18.680 petition the Prime Minister needs to testify under oath well let's flip that
00:15:21.800 around now Justin Trudeau should testify under oath and him saying that
00:15:26.300 transparency should be the default openness should be the default that we
00:15:30.580 should all as our starting point have government that is not keeping secrets
00:15:34.820 from the people and all of that has gone by the wayside now that Justin Trudeau is in
00:15:41.420 the Prime Minister seat and he has access to these mechanisms that allow him to
00:15:45.560 close off his government from public scrutiny he's employing that he's
00:15:50.360 employing that and we need to start getting some answers here and the problem
00:15:55.100 with the ethics commissioner is that the ethics commissioner does not have the
00:15:59.160 ability to turn this into a bit of a show trial and I'm not saying that I want to
00:16:03.140 show trial but I want there to be some public accountability as opposed to
00:16:07.520 Justin Trudeau sitting in a room answering some questions and then this getting
00:16:11.740 distilled into a very sanitized and very condensed report that everyone reads
00:16:16.600 that's what happened with the Bahamas vacation whereas if Justin Trudeau would
00:16:21.800 agree to go before the Justice Committee say there would be a public
00:16:25.600 questioning and yes it would be used for partisanship the conservatives would
00:16:29.560 play it up it would be not exactly like the Kavanaugh hearing in the US but
00:16:33.520 it would even there's a risk that it would turn into something just very
00:16:36.640 polarizing and partisan but at least it would be public-facing because we're
00:16:41.500 past the point where the solution can exist in the back rooms when the
00:16:46.820 problem existed in the back rooms the solution can't when the problem took
00:16:52.140 place in locked closed doors or when the problem took place behind locked
00:16:57.880 closed doors the solution has to be in plain view with sunlight beaming down on it
00:17:03.480 and that's what Justin Trudeau needs to do he needs to have a full transparent and
00:17:08.460 public accounting of everything that happened and for that he needs to let
00:17:12.360 Jody Wilson-Raybould off the leash that has been put around her vis-a-vis
00:17:16.800 attorney-client privilege and I believe wholeheartedly when she said that that
00:17:23.040 she thinks her hands are tied the last thing she wants is to be disbarred to be
00:17:26.940 criminally charged she can't do that she needs to get a lawyer with a lot of
00:17:31.060 experience to walk her through you can say this you can say that you can say this
00:17:34.120 and I think we need to start looking at her not as a disgruntled cabinet member
00:17:38.320 but start looking at her as a whistleblower start looking at her as a
00:17:43.780 whistleblower in all honesty David writes where there is smoke yeah well at this
00:17:48.560 point we're seeing the smoke we're seeing the embers and I think within 24
00:17:52.720 hours we'll probably start seeing the fire Cheryl right she may have just
00:17:56.780 sacrificed her career but it's the truth she has to speak did she resign because
00:18:01.100 of what it did to her personally by demoting her rather than potential
00:18:04.320 corruption well why she resigned I mean if she genuinely had a big issue with what
00:18:10.380 was going on and it was a deal-breaker she probably could have resigned right
00:18:15.940 then and there she could have said back and I think October when this is rumored
00:18:19.180 to have happened no I'm done I'm walking away she did stay in she tried to do her
00:18:24.900 part but now that she's being thrown under the bus then it becomes where she
00:18:30.000 has to start standing her ground and digging her feet in a bit more and I
00:18:33.800 think that's what we're seeing now so I believe her resignation is not because
00:18:38.460 of the corruption directly but her resignation is because this is the only
00:18:42.780 way she's able to speak out about what went on and I mean we're looking at
00:18:47.780 someone who if she takes down Justin Trudeau she'll be the conservative's
00:18:51.240 favorite person but she'll also be the future leader of the Liberal Party if
00:18:54.860 Canada Louisa writes transparency is just for others not for Trudeau yeah
00:19:01.240 that's precisely the problem here is that Justin Trudeau talked a big game
00:19:04.400 when he wanted Stephen Harper to be more transparent but all of a sudden when the
00:19:08.540 shoes on the other foot the the CTD headline that was a great one I'm
00:19:13.100 paraphrasing but Attorney General sees no reason to probe alleged PMO
00:19:17.420 interference the Attorney General who's appointed by the Prime Minister sees no
00:19:21.440 reason to look into the Prime Minister so the government has done that whole thing
00:19:25.400 I don't know if you've seen that police mean that goes around but we've
00:19:28.320 investigated ourselves and we've determined that nothing happened you
00:19:32.180 can't investigate yourself you just can't but this is exactly where we're going to
00:19:38.900 see an impasse here you cannot square these two completely conflicting
00:19:42.820 narratives on one side that nothing happened that no one was directed to do
00:19:47.780 anything that this is all false that Justin Trudeau may have talked about
00:19:51.200 S&C Lavalin but he told her she could make her decision versus the Globe and
00:19:55.400 Mail report that there was pressure and there was stronger these two are it you
00:20:00.140 can't have both of these be true they are in contradiction with one another so
00:20:06.220 herein lies the question mark one of the big question marks who blinks first and I
00:20:13.460 think you're gonna start to see some other fractures here we saw a couple of
00:20:16.880 days ago the Liberal MP Céline César Chavannes who apparently made a joking
00:20:25.700 comment at a Robbie Burns dinner or Robert Burns dinner a couple of weeks ago that
00:20:29.960 was supporting Jody Wilson-Raybould she tweeted this week about Jody Wilson-Raybould's
00:20:35.060 courage and bravery now as I understand she's not running again but therein lies
00:20:40.460 another one that the Liberals have trotted out as a token who seems to be siding
00:20:44.420 with Jody Wilson-Raybould look I'm not at all one for identity politics I don't
00:20:50.000 like it I don't care about it I don't think it helps but there is something to
00:20:54.320 the symbolism here the Trudeau who prides himself on being the feminist Prime
00:20:58.520 Minister the you know the pro-indigenous Prime Minister has now
00:21:02.400 thrown the female indigenous justice minister a former justice minister under
00:21:07.680 the bus and he has again a minority female a black female in Céline César
00:21:12.780 Chavannes who is taking aim at him indirectly as well so all of these these
00:21:19.680 little tokens that he has put out seem to be ultimately pawns that can be
00:21:25.900 sacrificed at the first sign of trouble and that's where we are now most people
00:21:32.560 in politics will stick to wherever the path to power is which means most people
00:21:37.660 will keep their mouths shut it's the fact of life Liberals Conservatives doesn't
00:21:41.440 matter most people will go along with it because they want a seat in the cabinet
00:21:44.660 they want to be running in the next election they want to be in good graces
00:21:48.020 of the Prime Minister who right now holds all the power but when that starts to
00:21:52.120 fracture that's when you see people drop like flies and I think we may be at the
00:21:59.140 starting point of that right now we may be at the starting point because Jody
00:22:03.640 Wilson-Raybould is not a Leona Alislev and with all due respect to Leona
00:22:07.000 Alislev most people had never heard of her before she crossed to the Conservatives
00:22:11.080 she's not even Céline César Chavannes she is a high-profile member of this
00:22:17.320 government one of the most visible members of this government up until this
00:22:21.100 morning and now she's gone and she's gone in a way that suggests she is angling to
00:22:26.380 make a power play very very soon Karen asks why has the RCMP not stepped in
00:22:33.700 well this is in Bartley asked a similar question why do you think they are not
00:22:37.480 involved well for starters and I talked about this with Leo Knight who's a true
00:22:41.000 north fellow and former RCMP officer the other day you have to take into
00:22:45.280 consideration a few different things here number one the RCMP does not move
00:22:49.060 swiftly on stuff like this they want to collect evidence so if the RCMP is
00:22:53.080 investigating that could take time and it could take days weeks months or hopefully
00:22:58.180 not years but theoretically a year so that's part of it number two we don't
00:23:02.620 know if there was any criminal wrongdoing or if it's just ethical issues so we
00:23:08.380 have a conflict event a conflict of interest and ethics commissioner in
00:23:11.740 Ottawa who's tasked with looking up ethical concerns it's possible that someone
00:23:16.060 has broken the ethics law but not broken criminal law and remember that Justin
00:23:21.460 Trudeau as Prime Minister is allowed to talk to his Attorney General about
00:23:26.020 ongoing cases the Attorney General is allowed to intervene in prosecution
00:23:30.440 there's a path that it has to be done through but this is all allowed where it
00:23:35.300 would be criminal is if this intervention happened because of something that was
00:23:39.840 untoward if this intervention happened through means that were criminal such as
00:23:45.520 bribery extortion corruption and we know that SNC Lavalin has wound up facing
00:23:51.760 criminal charges and convictions on corruption and bribery scandals so we know
00:23:56.240 that it wouldn't be out of character for the company we don't know if there was
00:23:59.880 anything linking that conduct to this particular government though and that's
00:24:05.200 the big challenge here that's ultimately where we're going to see the
00:24:10.100 question marks of the next chapter of this is whether the wrongdoing is just
00:24:15.060 political but remember I also don't think that the RCMP involvement at this
00:24:18.560 point matters as much because the story is public enough that people are able to
00:24:23.960 formulate an opinion on it based on the information that is available and the
00:24:29.120 public component of this may be enough because remember in politics it doesn't
00:24:33.680 need to be criminal wrongdoing that sinks you it can also be PR wrongdoing or just
00:24:39.660 political faux pas and right now we're seeing that I mean when there is a
00:24:44.260 fracture in the cabinet this close to an election that's the other part we are
00:24:49.260 eight months away from the election we are probably about four months from the
00:24:54.240 starting of campaign season because once MPs go on summer break which should be
00:24:58.680 around May even if it's not the rip period that's basically when the election
00:25:02.460 is going to start so we're looking at a period of you know maybe May June July
00:25:06.420 August September maybe even five months of campaigning which means we're three
00:25:11.760 months away from it so this is not going to be irrelevant and the conflict of
00:25:17.520 interest in ethics Commissioner will have a report done before then this will
00:25:22.780 take a little bit of time but it should be done before the election which means we
00:25:27.380 may have a finding yet again that Trudeau has broken federal law Trudeau was the
00:25:32.940 first Prime Minister in Canadian history to have been found to violate federal law
00:25:37.380 while in office and that was ethics laws so it doesn't need to be an RCMP issue
00:25:42.360 for it to go to a significant length now remember Trudeau has a very strong grip on
00:25:49.860 his caucus and on his party I don't think they're ready to pounce on him like
00:25:54.600 Patrick Brown's PC party was for example when there was a bit of a hint of
00:25:59.340 wrongdoing and people were already dissatisfied enough that it became easy
00:26:02.820 to push him away Trudeau doesn't have that problem I mean he still has a lot
00:26:06.660 of popularity within his party and he has up until this point now I don't know how
00:26:12.300 large a constituency Jody Wilson-Raybould has within the Liberals of people that
00:26:17.160 would believe her over him but it is interesting that Justin Trudeau the the
00:26:22.160 big believer in believe all women is now probably going to be headed towards this
00:26:27.140 strategy of calling a woman that he endowed with a very significant
00:26:31.580 positional liar that's what this is headed towards she's gonna make all these
00:26:35.120 claims Justin Trudeau has already said the claims in the Globe and Mail report
00:26:38.480 were false and he's gonna start saying she's a liar and in the believe all women
00:26:43.160 narrative will crack when a prominent strong independent woman is calling out
00:26:48.980 Justin Trudeau for his nonsense so that's what I see happening here I mean she
00:26:54.800 has lawyered up these are in her own words she's brought on legal counsel to
00:26:58.820 help guide her through the process of what she can say and can disclose moving
00:27:03.620 forward so that is going to be what we can see next it's not going to happen
00:27:07.820 next week most likely but I'd say within the next three to four weeks we're
00:27:11.960 probably going to see some big tell-all from Jody Wilson-Raybould in the form
00:27:17.180 of a sit-down interview with CBC that's my prediction here I'm making it at 2 35
00:27:22.560 Eastern Time on February 12 if I'm wrong I'll just delete the video but so don't
00:27:26.760 save any copies of folks but that's something we're likely to see and then
00:27:31.200 from there I think we'll start to see a bit of a slander campaign about Jody
00:27:35.520 Wilson-Raybould coming through unofficial sources which can probably be linked
00:27:40.740 back to the liberal spin machine and that's because if what happened is what
00:27:45.660 the Globe and Mail describes and this is the if it is just a report based on
00:27:49.800 anonymous sources but if what happened is how the Globe and Mail describes it
00:27:53.460 then heads have to roll one way or another and it's either going to be the
00:27:58.300 person who if the story is not true the person who made up those claims which may
00:28:03.120 well link back to Jody Wilson-Raybould and if it is true it's going to be
00:28:06.860 damning to the person who tried to pressure Jody Wilson-Raybould and this
00:28:10.700 eventually led to her getting kicked out of cabinet or resigning on her own and I
00:28:15.920 think that again I have to reiterate the point that I genuinely believe Trudeau
00:28:20.080 didn't see it coming because yesterday he was saying that oh well if she had any
00:28:23.720 issue she wouldn't have left cabinet or she would have left cabinet and well now
00:28:27.080 less than 24 hours later she's left cabinet so this was a very very bad
00:28:32.660 miscalculation by the Trudeau spin machine and one for which he and his team
00:28:37.220 will now be paying and remember this isn't Friday this isn't a Friday before a
00:28:41.160 long weekend where things kind of go away where this is still early in the week
00:28:44.940 there is a lot more fuel left in the tank of the story here and I think that
00:28:50.040 we'll genuinely see some change happen I mean I'm leery to do anything that
00:28:55.620 involves like being published a day after I write it because I'm convinced that
00:28:59.940 this story will change very rapidly we're at that point now so I want to just
00:29:04.980 close here read a few comments before we go let's see James writes the facts
00:29:09.480 remain that Justin Trudeau is not truly representing Canada the massive foreign
00:29:13.800 funding increase for the Liberal Party must be exposed to do so would provide
00:29:17.720 transparency about who Justin Trudeau truly represents well the foreign
00:29:21.660 campaign funding is an issue I've talked about a lot not relevant to this story
00:29:25.560 but again there are a lot of people that want to keep Trudeau in office at all
00:29:29.160 costs let's see Rosemary writes hope her legal counsel isn't a liberal well I
00:29:34.320 think that he is a liberal appointed justice a former Supreme Court justice but
00:29:39.300 by all accounts he's a very well reputed and well-regarded one so he's agreed to
00:29:44.520 represent her so I think that means he must start to see at least a bit of a
00:29:49.320 bit of a bit of truth in what she's saying Bruce writes thanks for the update
00:29:54.600 Andrew keep up the good work well on that note I'll end on a compliment thank you
00:29:57.700 very much Bruce really do appreciate it we'll have lots more on this as the
00:30:01.740 story develops folks this is Andrew Lawton for True North thank you God bless and
00:30:05.800 good day Canada