Juno News - July 04, 2019


Britain versus Tommy Robinson: Day 1


Episode Stats

Length

4 minutes

Words per Minute

167.35762

Word Count

767

Sentence Count

38


Summary

In the first day of Tommy Robinson's new trial, the defense and prosecution argue that he was doing what any concerned citizen journalist would do: reporting on a critical issue facing the community of Huddersfield, England. And in reporting on that issue, he was subject to a reporting restriction.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'm outside the Old Bailey in downtown London, England, my third time coming to
00:00:12.900 this country for the very same reason to cover the ordeal that the legal system
00:00:16.980 in Britain is putting Tommy Robinson through. It stems back to a contempt of
00:00:22.440 court allegation against him for which he was convicted, jailed, then that was
00:00:27.600 overturned on appeal but then the Attorney General ordered a new trial on
00:00:31.920 it which brings us to what's happening this week. A two-day trial prosecuted by
00:00:36.240 a lawyer for the Attorney General basically that could put Tommy Robinson
00:00:41.040 back to jail again. What we saw emerge today in the first day of the trial was
00:00:45.780 the theme unfolding about the defense strategy and also the crown strategy in
00:00:50.700 prosecution. Tommy Robinson is saying two main things chief among them that he was
00:00:56.460 reporting. He was doing what any concerned citizen journalist would do,
00:01:00.000 bringing attention to a critical issue facing the community of Huddersfield and
00:01:04.380 that was the gang rape, the sex grooming gangs that existed in there that were
00:01:09.000 targeting young girls. And in reporting on this he was outside the courtroom hosting
00:01:13.860 that infamous live stream in which he filmed defendants who are now convicts
00:01:19.320 heading into the court. He said look I'm reporting but more importantly I wasn't
00:01:23.400 reporting on anything that wasn't in the public interest. His argument,
00:01:26.940 his lawyer's argument is that the public interest, the public domain, these things
00:01:32.280 are exempt from the contempt of court and the reporting restrictions that the
00:01:36.840 government is trying to claim here. So he was reporting on something in the
00:01:39.840 public domain, reporting in the public interest, but moreover Tommy said that he
00:01:43.940 has out of an abundance of caution gone through a number of what were called
00:01:47.900 checks, verifications to ensure that there wasn't a reporting restriction that
00:01:53.000 would impact him. And we heard a few key ways where he said he did this. Number one,
00:01:57.920 he went in and asked a security guard, this is not in dispute. Number two, he looked at
00:02:02.900 the court website, it did not say there was a reporting restriction. And number three,
00:02:07.340 he had a colleague of his go in and actually look at the courtroom door and
00:02:11.360 the monitors in the courtroom and those did not have the indication of a
00:02:15.500 reporting restriction. Now the British judicial policy is that a reporting
00:02:19.740 restriction is published in all of those places. And what happened? The Crown's
00:02:25.100 star witness, a woman by the name of Michelle Dunderdale, testified and her
00:02:29.360 word is that the court failed. That's what she said, the court failed at doing this.
00:02:34.260 The process has failed, the internal process has failed, and she says that this is
00:02:39.020 something they've had to come up with another way around, a new process, they've
00:02:42.720 needed to change it up. But there's an admission from the government that this
00:02:46.800 reporting restriction was not notified. Now a couple of things happened to
00:02:51.220 combat this. The Attorney General's lawyer said, number one, that it doesn't matter
00:02:56.280 anyway because, you know, the reporting restriction exists whether you are
00:02:59.960 negligent or not, whether you're ignorant or not. But also, and this is the most
00:03:04.100 important thing, he accused Tommy Robinson of making it up. He said to Tommy, I
00:03:08.580 believe you've created these stories about going through these checks after the
00:03:12.660 fact. Tommy said that's incorrect. And what did the lawyer for the Attorney
00:03:15.940 General say? I will quote exactly, oh well. So this is what's happening here. You have
00:03:21.000 the government of the United Kingdom, the Attorney General of this country, of
00:03:24.980 England and Wales, saying to Tommy Robinson, we believe you've made it up, you
00:03:29.000 didn't go through these checks, even though the government admits, the
00:03:32.820 government's witness admits that these things did not happen, these things that
00:03:37.580 were supposed to happen. Now there are obviously going to be a lot of
00:03:40.320 arguments about the law itself, not the facts of the case, but the law. And we're
00:03:44.540 expected to hear more of those when day two of the trial kicks off. I'll be in
00:03:48.520 the courtroom again if you want to follow my tweets starting from about 4.30 a.m.
00:03:52.700 Eastern Time. If you're an early riser, you can do so. My Twitter name is
00:03:56.200 across the bottom there, at Andrew Lawton. Back in court tomorrow for day two of the
00:04:01.340 trial of Tommy Robinson. For True North, I'm Andrew Lawton.
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