Juno News - “C-36 is the legislation of cancel culture”： Ezra Levant on Liberal “hate speech” bill

00:00:00.000 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:00:05.860 Before I introduce my next guest, I want you to take a look at this video clip

00:00:10.920 from one of these very star chambers.

00:00:14.800 And I always, in an investigation interview, I always ask people,

00:00:19.620 even though they've been as thorough as you have, in summary fashion,

00:00:22.860 what was your intent and purpose of your article

00:00:26.480 with the cartoon illustrations published on February 27, 2006.

00:00:31.100 Why is that a relevant question?

00:00:36.720 Under Section 3.1a, it talks about intention, purpose.

00:00:44.300 We'd like to get some background as well.

00:00:46.560 Is it you'd like to get some background, or does this determine anything?

00:00:52.280 We publish what we publish.

00:00:53.900 The words in the picture speak for themselves.

00:00:56.480 Are you saying that one answer is wrong and one answer is right?

00:01:02.560 Is a certain answer contrary to law?

00:01:07.100 No.

00:01:08.220 So if I were to say, hypothetically, that the purpose was to instill hatred,

00:01:14.360 incite hatred, and cause offense, are you saying that's an acceptable answer?

00:01:18.940 I have to look at it in the context of all the information and determine if it was indeed.

00:01:25.400 I think you're playing silly bundry here.

00:01:27.000 I think you know that the answer here, that that answer would be illegal.

00:01:32.800 Anything is possible, I guess, but again, I look at it.

00:01:39.960 This kind of Section 3 case takes a lot of analysis,

00:01:43.280 so there's a lot of things I have to look at.

00:01:45.380 That piece of information is just one.

00:01:47.020 My answer to your question is as follows.

00:01:53.120 We published those cartoons for the intention and purpose of exercising our inalienable rights

00:02:03.540 as free-born Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want, no matter what the hell you think.

00:02:09.340 That was, of course, our friend Ezra Levant being grilled by an investigator

00:02:14.100 with the Alberta Human Rights Commission, Shirlene McGovern,

00:02:17.520 as to what his intent was in choosing to publish, at the time in the Western Standard,

00:02:23.780 the infamous Danish Muhammad cartoons.

00:02:26.100 Because this is exactly what human rights regulations and regimes do

00:02:31.600 when they start tackling free speech,

00:02:33.520 delving into your thinking behind doing certain things,

00:02:36.900 which all should be protected under free speech.

00:02:39.740 Fast forward to 13 years, we have Ezra Levant,

00:02:42.640 rebel commander himself and great friend of this show with us.

00:02:45.720 Ezra, good to talk to you. Thanks for coming on today.

00:02:48.260 Well, it's my pleasure.

00:02:49.120 I'm afraid the law, under which I was prosecuted over a dozen years ago,

00:02:53.900 it's coming back through the Liberal Bill C-36,

00:02:58.400 and actually it's coming back sort of weaponized.

00:03:01.360 You know those killer bees, and then there's Africanized killer bees 1.00

00:03:05.120 that are even tougher, apparently.

00:03:06.900 This isn't just like Section 13 I was grilled under.

00:03:10.080 This is like a killer bee version of that that is much worse,

00:03:13.800 and I'm happy to tell you why.

00:03:15.580 Yeah, and I want to talk first off,

00:03:17.400 because a lot of people have looked at this and said,

00:03:19.680 okay, well, you know, Mark Stein and Maclean's were prosecuted

00:03:22.840 under the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal.

00:03:24.880 You were taken to task by Alberta,

00:03:27.000 and this is, of course, the Canadian Human Rights Commission

00:03:29.480 that will have these new powers. 0.76

00:03:30.860 But my position on this has always been that,

00:03:34.180 first off, the provinces tend to follow the lead of the federal government,

00:03:37.380 but also they're all part of this one major regime,

00:03:41.020 which is a regime that decides the speech that is uttered by individual people,

00:03:45.680 by media platforms,

00:03:46.800 now by bloggers and people on social media.

00:03:49.560 Yeah, well, I'm afraid that the pendulum is swinging against free speech.

00:04:00.160 I think the pendulum swung towards free speech

00:04:03.460 because of the overreach by the Alberta Human Rights Commission

00:04:08.300 in the video you showed there

00:04:09.380 and their attack on Mark Stein.

00:04:11.000 But that was more than, that was about a decade ago.

00:04:15.140 And since that time, cancel culture, 0.95

00:04:18.600 woke racial identity politics have become mainstream.

00:04:22.440 They've leaped out of the fringes of academia

00:04:25.280 into the courts and certainly into politics.

00:04:28.920 And so it's coming back, and it will be used vigorously,

00:04:32.620 and they've added some accelerant to it.

00:04:38.000 Let me give you two examples.

00:04:39.320 That video you just showed, I was filming,

00:04:44.420 that was actually at my law firm's office.

00:04:48.280 We had the right to film that interrogation,

00:04:52.160 to talk about the accuser against me,

00:04:55.860 who was a radical imam born in Pakistan, came to Canada,

00:04:59.320 didn't accept our ideas of the separation of mosque and state, etc.

00:05:03.020 That would be impossible under the new rule.

00:05:05.580 Because under Bill C-36,

00:05:08.860 the Human Rights Commission has the right to ban anyone

00:05:13.340 from knowing who the accuser is,

00:05:17.540 who the complainant is.

00:05:19.320 So not only would I not be able to know,

00:05:22.640 but no one else in the media,

00:05:24.720 in the public would be able to know.

00:05:26.100 We have secret complainants and now secret witnesses.

00:05:32.620 Those are explicitly outlined in Bill C-36.

00:05:38.560 So it's not just the same censorship as before.

00:05:42.060 It's the same censorship,

00:05:44.100 but they want to ensure that no one will ever be able to fight back.

00:05:47.780 You'll never know who's coming for you,

00:05:50.260 whether it's a, oh, I don't know,

00:05:52.780 a disgruntled ex-employee,

00:05:54.860 a disgruntled ex-wife or ex-husband or ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend,

00:05:58.940 a rival,

00:06:00.200 or I think the most likely scenario in Canada,

00:06:02.820 one of the Liberal government's paid aggressor groups

00:06:07.840 like the laughably named Canadian Anti-Hate Network.

00:06:11.120 They just got a quarter million dollar grant from Stephen Gilbeau

00:06:13.720 to go out and hunt and complain against

00:06:17.200 conservative opponents of Justin Trudeau.

00:06:20.000 They literally got a quarter million dollar budget

00:06:22.360 to hunt down Trudeau's enemies online and complain against them.

00:06:26.460 Well, who do you think is going to be the number one customer

00:06:28.260 of this hate speech provision?

00:06:30.160 But we'll never know.

00:06:31.280 This is tremendously important, though,

00:06:33.100 because this body, the Canadian Human Rights Commission,

00:06:35.740 is not like a crown attorney.

00:06:37.460 It's not supposed to have an independent prosecution arm.

00:06:40.400 But when Section 13 was around the first time,

00:06:43.280 almost all of the complaints were filed by one single person.

00:06:46.900 And we just know that there will be activists

00:06:48.780 whose full-time job is finding this Twitter account

00:06:52.420 they don't like, this episode of your show, of my show,

00:06:55.200 and just filing in a systematic way these complaints.

00:06:58.740 Well, yeah, and I forgot to mention,

00:07:01.280 not only can the complainants be a group or a corporation

00:07:05.180 that's kept secret,

00:07:07.540 and not only can they give evidence in secret,

00:07:10.120 and by the way, we don't do that for any other kind of law.

00:07:12.620 You can be prosecuting the mafia,

00:07:15.160 and you still have to take a stand,

00:07:17.220 say your name,

00:07:18.060 because we have to know,

00:07:19.060 well, who's the,

00:07:20.060 is it a grudge from a rival mob boss?

00:07:22.220 Yeah, I think I learned that in grade 11,

00:07:23.860 that the right to face your accuser

00:07:25.700 is one of the cornerstones of the rule of law in Canada.

00:07:28.500 Yeah, otherwise, how do you know what the angle is?

00:07:30.880 How do you know what the grudge is?

00:07:32.520 So not only are you allowed to be a secret complainant

00:07:35.180 and give secret evidence,

00:07:36.640 but you get 20,000 bucks a pop

00:07:38.540 every time you catch someone.

00:07:40.880 And under C36,

00:07:43.180 not only do you get up to 20 grand,

00:07:45.200 but the person who made the offensive Facebook post

00:07:48.140 has to also pay the government 50 grand.

00:07:52.160 So I missed this.

00:07:53.440 You're saying you can actually claim a bounty

00:07:55.140 if you haul someone before the commission and win.

00:07:58.840 Yeah, it's right there in the legislation,

00:08:00.420 up to $20,000 per case.

00:08:03.700 So that's a really profitable business.

00:08:07.380 And I think that's tax-free.

00:08:10.100 You have the Human Rights Commission in secret.

00:08:13.360 You don't have to hire a lawyer.

00:08:15.100 They do it for you.

00:08:16.840 The bad guy is put on trial.

00:08:19.620 You can give secret evidence.

00:08:21.160 Obviously, you're not going to be cross-examined on it

00:08:23.180 in any meaningful way if you're secret.

00:08:25.140 And if you win, you get 20,000 bucks.

00:08:27.800 Well, why wouldn't people make a living out of this?

00:08:30.160 This is creating a whole new industry.

00:08:32.640 But I have to tell you, Andrew,

00:08:35.160 what we've been talking about

00:08:36.340 isn't even the worst part of the bill.

00:08:38.300 It's terrible,

00:08:39.720 but it is nowhere near the worst part of the bill.

00:08:42.840 This bill, C36,

00:08:44.940 does bring back the censorship provision.

00:08:48.660 It does reintroduce the counterfeit right not to be offended.

00:08:54.000 It has all of that in there.

00:08:56.180 The pre-crime,

00:08:57.660 like you publish something likely to cause hurt feelings.

00:09:02.360 All that's back,

00:09:03.640 and the new secrecy provisions in there,

00:09:06.000 and the $20,000 bounty,

00:09:07.660 it's in there.

00:09:08.000 Check for yourself.

00:09:08.460 It's all in the bill.

00:09:09.920 That's not the worst part, Andrew.

00:09:11.900 The worst part is they also,

00:09:13.720 in the same bill,

00:09:15.100 make changes to the criminal code,

00:09:16.900 changes I have never seen or heard of

00:09:18.900 anywhere in the free world,

00:09:21.020 and I can explain them to you in two minutes.

00:09:23.820 The criminal code,

00:09:25.200 so I'm not talking about some kangaroo court,

00:09:27.460 human rights commission.

00:09:28.340 The criminal code is being amended

00:09:29.900 in this same bill

00:09:31.400 to allow anyone in Canada

00:09:34.000 to go to a provincial court

00:09:36.240 and apply for what they call

00:09:40.220 a recognizance.

00:09:41.480 It's like bail.

00:09:43.120 Apply to get their enemy,

00:09:45.920 their political rival,

00:09:47.860 to have a bunch of conditions

00:09:49.620 put on their life.

00:09:51.120 It's like a restraining order,

00:09:53.200 but it only applies

00:09:54.820 for biased crimes and hate crimes.

00:09:57.300 You can't get this restraining order

00:09:58.860 if someone is a robber

00:10:01.620 or a murderer

00:10:02.460 or a rapist

00:10:03.580 or any of those things.

00:10:05.400 It's a special

00:10:06.780 criminal code provision

00:10:08.860 only for biased crimes,

00:10:11.060 but get this.

00:10:12.760 You can get it

00:10:13.980 for someone

00:10:15.460 who hasn't done anything yet.

00:10:19.440 They haven't done anything yet.

00:10:20.380 Yeah, this is the Minority Report Peace Bond 0.86

00:10:22.520 for a crime that someone may commit

00:10:24.620 in the future.

00:10:25.900 In fact, the title of this

00:10:27.700 is Fear of a Hate Crime.

00:10:30.800 So you go to court

00:10:31.820 and say, Your Honor,

00:10:32.880 he hasn't done anything.

00:10:35.520 He's not accused.

00:10:36.740 He's not charged.

00:10:37.720 He's not convicted.

00:10:38.580 He's not tried.

00:10:39.140 He's not sentenced.

00:10:40.120 He's not a criminal, Your Honor.

00:10:42.380 But this new section

00:10:43.800 of the Criminal Code

00:10:44.420 says if I'm afraid of him

00:10:46.360 only for hate,

00:10:48.720 that human emotion,

00:10:50.020 not for he's going to kill me,

00:10:51.540 he's going to rape me, 0.99

00:10:52.120 he's going to stab me, 0.94

00:10:52.800 he's going to rob me.

00:10:53.780 No, no.

00:10:54.440 I'm afraid that he's a hater.

00:10:56.940 You can get a judge

00:10:58.240 to give you a list of things

00:10:59.740 that would shock you, Andrew.

00:11:00.960 Let me tell you some of them.

00:11:02.940 You can get someone

00:11:03.800 put under house arrest.

00:11:06.160 You can limit the places they go

00:11:08.840 if they're allowed out

00:11:10.180 for certain hours of the day.

00:11:11.880 You can ban them

00:11:12.980 from any place,

00:11:13.980 whether it's their work,

00:11:15.300 school, business, family.

00:11:19.180 You can ban them

00:11:20.200 from communicating directly

00:11:21.700 or indirectly with any person.

00:11:24.600 Again, family, friends,

00:11:26.020 political party,

00:11:26.800 associates, employees.

00:11:29.720 You can get any firearms

00:11:31.460 they own legally seized.

00:11:34.320 You can ban them,

00:11:35.640 this is crazy,

00:11:36.680 from drinking wine, beer,

00:11:38.180 or any other alcohol.

00:11:39.480 And subject them to testing

00:11:41.220 of that, it looked like.

00:11:42.380 Oh, yeah.

00:11:43.100 And they have to take

00:11:44.220 a blood, urine,

00:11:44.960 or DNA test on command.

00:11:46.820 The no communication part

00:11:50.760 is insane.

00:11:52.480 The no meeting people, 0.99

00:11:54.080 no going places

00:11:54.880 is insane.

00:11:56.740 Oh, and an electronic

00:11:58.340 ankle monitor,

00:11:59.600 like you would put on

00:12:01.840 a sexual predator

00:12:03.120 or something.

00:12:04.520 You can't go to court,

00:12:06.380 Andrew,

00:12:06.900 and say,

00:12:07.480 I'm afraid of that

00:12:08.120 sexual predator

00:12:08.820 to put an ankle monitor

00:12:09.640 on him.

00:12:10.800 Because the courts

00:12:11.520 would say,

00:12:12.080 that's a pre-crime,

00:12:14.220 he hasn't done it yet.

00:12:15.060 When he's done something,

00:12:16.000 we'll arrest him.

00:12:16.840 You can't say,

00:12:18.020 that man,

00:12:18.540 I think he's going to kill me.

00:12:20.180 The judge would say,

00:12:21.320 he hasn't done it yet.

00:12:23.000 We'll stop him

00:12:23.940 if he moves on you.

00:12:25.300 But only for these new

00:12:27.120 hate crimes

00:12:28.580 under C-36.

00:12:29.800 Hate's a human emotion,

00:12:30.820 by the way.

00:12:32.120 You can go to court

00:12:33.300 and get a preemptive strike

00:12:36.120 against your political enemies

00:12:38.320 for all these things

00:12:40.220 we lined up.

00:12:40.840 Ankle monitor,

00:12:41.980 no alcohol,

00:12:43.020 blood, urine,

00:12:43.940 and DNA testing,

00:12:45.260 no firearms,

00:12:46.980 no leaving the house

00:12:48.460 during certain hours,

00:12:49.400 no going to certain places,

00:12:50.560 no communicating directly

00:12:51.640 or indirectly

00:12:52.140 with certain people.

00:12:54.180 I've never heard

00:12:55.000 of that before.

00:12:56.320 That's a pre-crime

00:12:57.640 like minority report.

00:12:59.720 And I've never heard

00:13:01.020 of anything so illiberal.

00:13:02.940 If that law becomes,

00:13:04.620 if that bill becomes law,

00:13:06.400 I truly think we will

00:13:07.540 live in an,

00:13:09.300 I'm not going to say

00:13:09.900 an unfree country,

00:13:11.560 but I'll say just

00:13:12.420 a partially free country

00:13:13.820 if that becomes law.

00:13:15.060 And just while we're talking

00:13:16.260 about the peace bond here,

00:13:17.840 I want to read if I can.

00:13:19.460 This is under the bill

00:13:21.420 section 810.012

00:13:24.700 subsection 5.

00:13:27.080 If you refuse

00:13:28.320 to enter into this recognizance,

00:13:30.840 you can be put in jail

00:13:32.440 by the provincial judge

00:13:33.800 for 12 months.

00:13:35.200 Yeah.

00:13:35.320 So if the judge says,

00:13:37.200 yes, we think that person X

00:13:39.180 is right to fear,

00:13:40.460 you may commit one of these

00:13:41.520 new hate offenses

00:13:42.660 and you say,

00:13:43.780 I'm not playing ball,

00:13:44.840 you can be put in jail

00:13:45.800 for that alone for 12 months.

00:13:48.020 And you are right.

00:13:48.920 I mean,

00:13:49.080 I talked to Christine Van Gein

00:13:50.680 of the Canadian Constitution

00:13:51.820 Foundation about this last week,

00:13:53.520 and she said peace bonds

00:13:54.980 are already subjected

00:13:57.100 to a lot of criticism

00:13:58.560 from civil libertarians

00:13:59.960 because of the nature

00:14:01.660 of them going for future crimes,

00:14:04.040 crimes that you've not been

00:14:05.120 charged or convicted of.

00:14:06.720 And to apply that

00:14:07.900 to something that involves

00:14:09.160 a level of thinking,

00:14:10.440 a thought crime,

00:14:11.820 is absolutely egregious.

00:14:14.380 Yeah.

00:14:14.900 I mean,

00:14:15.080 I remember when I was

00:14:15.960 an articling student

00:14:16.680 way back in the day,

00:14:17.700 one of the very first things

00:14:18.760 I did was to serve

00:14:20.380 a restraining order

00:14:21.320 on a bad guy

00:14:22.700 to keep away from his ex.

00:14:24.960 And I remember drafting that,

00:14:26.920 and it was a very powerful

00:14:28.080 legal tool,

00:14:28.840 and I served him on him.

00:14:30.300 He was actually in jail.

00:14:31.520 I went into the

00:14:32.100 maximum security jail

00:14:33.160 to serve him

00:14:34.240 with this restraining order,

00:14:35.180 which just sounds weird,

00:14:36.420 but he was going to get out

00:14:37.500 and his ex was afraid.

00:14:39.760 Even in that restraining order

00:14:41.580 against a convicted criminal,

00:14:44.800 he still had rights.

00:14:46.540 At the bottom of the restraining order,

00:14:48.100 it basically said,

00:14:49.560 if you disagree with this,

00:14:52.180 come back to court

00:14:53.160 and say why,

00:14:54.080 and it might be modified.

00:14:56.160 But the bar was high

00:14:57.900 to get that.

00:14:59.500 And to have a political

00:15:02.220 restraining order,

00:15:03.700 if you are afraid

00:15:05.260 someone has the human emotion

00:15:06.820 of hate,

00:15:07.960 not that they're going to hurt you.

00:15:09.660 Let me just be crystal clear.

00:15:11.060 Another thing Bill C-36 does

00:15:13.140 is it defines hate

00:15:14.900 as an emotion,

00:15:16.820 which is true.

00:15:18.540 So you're criminalizing an emotion

00:15:20.820 and criminalizing it

00:15:23.100 because if someone's afraid

00:15:24.900 you're going to have an emotion

00:15:26.000 and can commit an emotion crime,

00:15:28.880 they can go to a court.

00:15:29.920 Now, I should note

00:15:31.000 that the attorney general

00:15:32.200 has to sign off on that.

00:15:33.580 But these days,

00:15:34.280 what attorney general wouldn't?

00:15:36.700 So...

00:15:37.100 Well, yeah.

00:15:37.380 And by the way,

00:15:38.000 just on an aside,

00:15:38.880 we know what happens

00:15:39.740 when attorney generals defy,

00:15:41.460 or attorneys general rather,

00:15:42.660 defy the political will

00:15:44.420 of the governments they serve.

00:15:45.600 Just ask Jody Wills and Raybould.

00:15:46.780 So there is no protection

00:15:48.240 about this process

00:15:49.480 not becoming politicized

00:15:51.220 on both the Human Rights Act complaints

00:15:53.260 and also this peace bond power.

00:15:56.280 Yeah.

00:15:56.600 And it's terrifying.

00:15:57.900 And I have to tell you,

00:15:58.740 I was thinking about myself

00:16:00.400 when I read this

00:16:01.240 and I'm not out of vanity.

00:16:02.760 I just thought,

00:16:03.480 who do they have in mind?

00:16:05.640 Who in this country

00:16:06.840 would they try and shut down?

00:16:09.760 Say you can't talk to your employees,

00:16:11.920 you can't talk to the public,

00:16:14.020 you can't go places.

00:16:15.320 Like, I think that they have

00:16:17.900 clearly in mind,

00:16:19.480 I mean, they've come for me before.

00:16:20.880 You just showed a clip of that.

00:16:23.060 Of course,

00:16:23.520 they're going to talk about Rebel News.

00:16:24.920 I think they might come from

00:16:26.320 for TNC.news also.

00:16:28.760 I think they might even go

00:16:29.980 for Maxime Bernier.

00:16:31.460 They've already arrested him

00:16:32.960 for going to a peaceful

00:16:34.560 political protest in Manitoba.

00:16:36.640 I think this is absolutely 100%

00:16:39.600 about political,

00:16:41.960 shrinking the bandwidth

00:16:43.340 of political dissent

00:16:44.440 in this country.

00:16:45.320 It's got nothing to do

00:16:46.200 with real crime.

00:16:47.000 Let me give you this example, Andrew.

00:16:49.280 In the last week,

00:16:51.180 five Catholic churches

00:16:52.760 have been burnt by arson.

00:16:55.180 That's a real crime,

00:16:57.020 destruction of property,

00:16:58.360 destruction of the religious center

00:17:00.200 of so many of these communities.

00:17:02.400 Not even a statement

00:17:04.020 from Justin Trudeau.

00:17:05.660 You've got a crime wave.

00:17:07.560 You might even call it

00:17:08.580 a terrorist crime wave.

00:17:09.940 It's certainly a hate crime wave.

00:17:12.160 Real life,

00:17:13.180 not a peep from Trudeau.

00:17:15.400 And frankly,

00:17:16.000 Erin O'Toole's being pretty quiet too.

00:17:18.100 Well, I've talked earlier on

00:17:19.580 about Erin O'Toole's silence

00:17:20.900 on C36.

00:17:22.540 Let me just ask you,

00:17:23.540 before we wrap things up here,

00:17:25.280 Ezra,

00:17:25.500 you literally wrote the book

00:17:27.000 more than a decade ago about this.

00:17:29.120 It was a great book,

00:17:29.880 Shakedown,

00:17:30.780 How Our Government

00:17:31.500 is Undermining Democracy

00:17:33.040 in the Name of Human Rights.

00:17:35.060 In 2013,

00:17:36.480 you saw the repeal of Section 13.

00:17:39.440 And this was a victory

00:17:40.560 for people who like free speech.

00:17:42.480 Did you envision it coming back

00:17:44.560 at that point?

00:17:45.240 Did you think that it was going

00:17:46.260 to be a short-lived victory?

00:17:48.220 Well, I was worried

00:17:49.300 because when that bill passed

00:17:51.140 to repeal the censorship provision,

00:17:54.100 only a single non-conservative MP

00:17:57.140 voted for it.

00:17:58.100 Scott Sims,

00:17:58.980 the liberal who's still an MP.

00:18:00.500 The bloc,

00:18:02.060 all the other liberals,

00:18:03.480 the NDP voted for censorship.

00:18:05.620 So I knew

00:18:06.300 that it was time-limited

00:18:08.200 because those parties

00:18:09.340 don't believe in freedom

00:18:10.620 of speech anymore.

00:18:11.780 And we see that now.

00:18:13.280 My worry

00:18:13.860 is that the conservatives

00:18:15.920 don't believe in free speech either.

00:18:17.860 I'm worried

00:18:18.760 that our judges

00:18:20.040 don't believe in free speech either.

00:18:21.660 I'm worried that our

00:18:22.380 civil liberties NGOs

00:18:23.940 don't believe in free speech,

00:18:25.960 at least for certain people.

00:18:27.920 And we've seen that

00:18:29.060 through the lockdown

00:18:29.800 and the shrinking

00:18:31.400 of our civil liberties

00:18:32.400 over the last year and a half.

00:18:33.920 I am worried

00:18:35.040 not just that the liberals mean it,

00:18:37.200 but that most of society does too.

00:18:40.420 And it's a shame

00:18:41.780 because,

00:18:43.000 and the media,

00:18:44.040 by the way,

00:18:44.920 when I was charged

00:18:46.540 with hate speech

00:18:47.280 a decade ago,

00:18:48.780 90% of the media,

00:18:50.240 including most of the CBC,

00:18:51.680 were supportive of me.

00:18:53.240 These days,

00:18:54.120 they would be cheering

00:18:55.980 a prosecution.

00:18:57.940 So I hate to say it,

00:18:58.940 but the cultural leadership

00:19:00.500 of Canada,

00:19:01.640 the political leadership,

00:19:02.860 the legal leadership,

00:19:04.160 the academic leadership,

00:19:05.220 it's completely

00:19:07.100 for cancel culture.

00:19:08.300 This bill,

00:19:09.880 Bill C-36,

00:19:11.440 is the legislation

00:19:13.300 of cancel culture.

00:19:16.060 And the only people

00:19:17.160 against it

00:19:17.860 are the people.

00:19:20.520 I don't know

00:19:21.440 if that's enough.

00:19:22.180 All the establishment

00:19:23.060 is for it.

00:19:24.400 I know ordinary Canadians

00:19:25.700 are against it,

00:19:26.640 or at least I hope so.

00:19:28.240 Maybe they've been infected

00:19:29.220 with wokeism too,

00:19:30.240 Andrew.

00:19:30.620 I wish I could have brought you on

00:19:32.120 to be the bringer

00:19:33.300 of better news,

00:19:34.340 but you know what?

00:19:34.920 People need to understand

00:19:35.720 how bad things are

00:19:36.720 to understand the stakes

00:19:38.080 in fighting back.

00:19:39.020 Ezra Levant,

00:19:39.660 rebel commander,

00:19:40.700 and even though it's 12 years old,

00:19:42.040 I have to promote

00:19:42.700 that book again,

00:19:43.380 author of Shakedown,

00:19:44.400 How Our Government

00:19:44.920 is Undermining Democracy

00:19:46.260 in the Name of Human Rights.

00:19:48.420 Buy it before it is banned.

00:19:50.440 Ezra, always a pleasure.

00:19:51.480 Thanks for coming on.

00:19:52.180 Thanks, my friend.

00:19:52.920 Thank you.

00:19:53.520 Thanks for listening

00:19:54.160 to The Andrew Lawton Show.

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Juno News - June 30, 2021

“C-36 is the legislation of cancel culture”： Ezra Levant on Liberal “hate speech” bill

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