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00:00:00.000 Hi, Juno News. Alexander Brown here, host of Not Sorry. I'm the director of the National

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00:00:24.320 all these terrifically talented people. Trump is moving at warp speed and Mark Carney is

00:00:29.500 moving at Ottawa speed. As Brian Lilly put in a piece Wednesday, it is a tremendous concern that

00:00:35.280 a Venezuela is to be brought back online as a global energy shot caller, that the threat of 0.99

00:00:40.460 healthy competition for our heavy crude is being met with more meetings, more hazy timelines and

00:00:46.260 more political excuses. The prime minister is a less offensive character than his predecessor.

00:00:52.720 I will give him that. He's done well playing to a portion of the electorate that holds all the

00:00:57.840 mental fortitude of a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. His, his chat GPT corporate babble includes

00:01:03.900 less virtue signaling. He's less destructive so far as a redistributionist. And unlike Trudeau,

00:01:11.080 he's not an idiot, but he's still long on talk and short on action. He's even allowing Krista Freeland

00:01:17.620 to rag the puck on officially resigning from office while she holds a clear conflict in advisory for 0.99

00:01:23.900 Ukraine. There is a deep underlying cynicism there. They want the numbers. They're working

00:01:29.320 to engineer a majority behind the scenes, even as the polls tighten because the rubber has yet to meet

00:01:34.740 the road when it comes to producing results for all that Canada is kind of sort of getting together.

00:01:41.900 Much is still left to be desired. Immigration, housing, third world quality, healthcare, wait times,

00:01:48.280 killing anti-energy bills, standing up for our history and its heritage, actually listening to

00:01:54.400 our young and working age, to our need of urgent reform. All these files are outstanding and 2026

00:02:00.800 needs to be the year this country rejoins the developed world and no longer makes excuses or

00:02:06.860 lives in denial. It is not the 1990s anymore. We are not the middle power we once were. We barely

00:02:15.060 rate as a destination for high value newcomers and we still offer limited pathways to anything

00:02:21.220 resembling a prosperous life for those who have the ability to actually fix this country through hard

00:02:27.720 work, shared principles, and a self-respect that's sorely lacking from the mud hut wing of our far left 1.00

00:02:33.920 and those who wish to tear this country down, not build it up. Let's talk urgent change with NCC

00:02:41.380 President Peter Coleman. And first, a word from our sponsor.

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00:02:50.180 auto insurance system? Under a new model called Care First coming to effect in 2027, most Albertans

00:02:55.280 injured in car accidents will no longer be able to sue the at-fault driver. Instead, decisions about

00:02:59.780 your care and compensation will be made by the insurance company, not your doctor, not the courts.

00:03:04.460 Critics say this system puts insurance companies first and removes key rights from victims and their

00:03:10.000 families. Peter Coleman joins us. Peter, you helmed one of Canada's most significant advocacy efforts

00:03:14.800 in 2025 as a pioneering conservative group. You know, Trudeau resigned in disgrace and elbows up.

00:03:21.760 Black Swan effect rug pulled the need for greater reform, sort of much to the lament of Canada's young

00:03:26.960 and working aged. We're just days into 2026. Where do you see the advocacy fight heading in 2026 and

00:03:34.720 what key policy changes will the NCC be fighting for on behalf of its supporters?

00:03:39.520 Let me go back for a sec, Alex, to 2025. We had over 20 million views across all of our streams, which is better

00:03:45.920 than some political parties and certainly better than the legacy media. It's still in the can for

00:03:51.280 Kearney. So, and we're very active in the federal election. We were one of the top third party spenders. We spent a lot of money

00:03:58.400 there. So we were very visible last year. We ran a lot of great campaigns. I think we forced the agenda on

00:04:04.400 immigration, things like that. So there's a lot going on in 2026 and happy to discuss that more with you.

00:04:10.400 Good. Hey, those are, those are pretty great numbers. Venezuela, the fallout from, you know,

00:04:17.520 all very much in the news, a reestablished Venezuelan energy market obviously means heavy

00:04:22.560 competition with Canada for heavy crude. What reforms, you know, would the NCC be advocating for

00:04:29.440 to actually get these energy projects to market faster, including ending, you know, stalling on

00:04:35.600 pipelines and removing regulatory roadblocks? Well, I think that the world's moving, Alex,

00:04:41.760 at a really quick pace and Canada's going backwards under the leadership of Kearney.

00:04:46.400 Um, he came in with his promise. He set up elbows up and a big change, but nothing's got done. All of

00:04:52.640 Trudeau's anti-pipeline regulations are still there. There's no pipeline approval. There's a process,

00:04:58.080 but all he is is a banker with processes. We need somebody to say the world's changed dramatically.

00:05:04.080 I do believe that Venezuela, I know it takes some years out to get to get really framed up, but it

00:05:08.880 gives us a time to pivot to the West Coast, but we can't sit around and when Carney goes away to have

00:05:14.160 a meeting in Europe this week to talk about Ukraine, he's misguided. Canada's the problem

00:05:18.960 for us right now. You're the leader of Canada. You're not going to be the boy scout cowboy

00:05:23.120 to help solve the problems in Ukraine. We need problems solved right now. There's no,

00:05:27.920 the inter-pronential trade barriers have been pulled down. Uh, the G7 results were the worst

00:05:33.040 economy, the G7. I'm not trying to be a negative person, but I wish Carney would use his so-called

00:05:38.480 brains to do something that would prop up Canada. And that, that MOU he's talking about,

00:05:42.880 it's not moving fast enough. In my view, after Venezuela, we need to move at a much quicker

00:05:47.600 pace than he seems to want to do. Yeah. And, and we're a soft power. I don't think people

00:05:53.520 understand that now. Like when I was growing up in the nineties, we were regarded as a middle power,

00:05:58.480 but we're a soft power. And the way we stopped being a soft power, if we were to get back to that

00:06:03.520 middle, it is by getting our house in order first. It is by becoming the economic superpower we can be.

00:06:11.200 It is by reestablishing our military. It is by offering a pathway to prosperity to our young

00:06:17.440 and working age. So where else do you see Carney failing so far? Like you've given him failing

00:06:22.640 grades in the press, you've written op-eds, you've made appearances in media with Marc Patron here,

00:06:27.920 elsewhere. What, you know, what else are you seeing as an early Achilles heel?

00:06:32.400 It just seems that the party is paralyzed. They can't, uh, when the prime minister of, uh,

00:06:37.680 of Mexico said that dealing with cans, like dealing with a lot of red tape, it just seems

00:06:41.200 all we deal with is red tape. Nothing gets done. Uh, the bureaucracy is way too strong.

00:06:46.800 They can't approve anything doing quickly. We're soft on immigration. We're soft on crime. We're

00:06:52.080 really soft on the economy, which is supposed to be his, his strength. If we want to create the middle

00:06:57.360 power we used to be Alex, we need to create economic wealth. That should be his priority. Every

00:07:03.120 single day that the guy wakes up is not to go to Europe. He's already gone about 10 times with no

00:07:08.080 results, not to fool, not to fool Canadians and thinking that, that the Americans won't be our

00:07:13.040 biggest trading partner for decades because they will be geography. All these supposed agreements

00:07:19.360 with all these foreign countries are a hill of beans or nothing because they don't trade enough. 0.82

00:07:23.840 They don't do enough. And it's, we got to find a way to resolve our issues with the Americans and to

00:07:28.480 move forward. And every day that challenge gets bigger and bigger because Donald Trump,

00:07:33.360 whether you like him or not, it's moving like his pants are on fire. Um, and our guy's sitting

00:07:38.240 there saying, whoa, whoa, wait a second. I mean, I don't know if you noticed Alex, but the Venezuela

00:07:42.640 comment, Pancarni took about six hours and it looks like it was run through chat GBT. I mean,

00:07:47.760 didn't look like he had any knowledge or, you know, international presence to even have a conversation.

00:07:53.760 So I think he was waiting for his pollsters to say, can I release this or not? And

00:07:57.920 I just think he's got to come across as a more human, if that's possible, less of a bureaucrat and

00:08:04.320 actually say to the people, I feel your pain. I'm going to do something. And oh, by the way,

00:08:09.280 the provincial trade barriers, end of February, they're done. I'm telling the premier out of the

00:08:14.080 way. He can't do that. He doesn't seem willing to do that. Yeah. And in regards to that statement

00:08:19.680 too, it was six hours late. It was very clearly run through a comms, uh, learning language module.

00:08:27.680 Right. As well as seven other people. And, and I will say like to their credit,

00:08:32.000 you know, limited credit here, it is not as offensive. Like I shudder to think of how

00:08:36.800 insufferable Justin Trudeau would have been on a week like this. Like we are in, in, in some ways,

00:08:41.520 you feel a little bit lucky that he didn't, you know, just toss a bomb at this where they are.

00:08:48.000 They are being very, very careful in their language, but, but they're being very, very careful in their

00:08:52.800 language. When we're talking about a, a, a brutal dictator who steals elections, who to me,

00:08:59.120 understandably was deposed and I've written as such. And meanwhile, they have their attack dogs

00:09:05.120 out giving the official opposition a hard time, uh, for being more declarative in their support of

00:09:10.080 getting rid of Maduro when, when it is a net good. And if Canada needs Venezuela to not have its shit

00:09:18.160 together, and I apologize for swearing to our audience, but if we are relying on brutal dictators

00:09:23.680 to make us look better, to make up for our economic malaise, that is embarrassing. And so it's okay to

00:09:30.640 say we're not doing a good enough job. And it, I also think of when we're talking carny failures,

00:09:38.400 should he not be taking a hit here for the Chrystia Freeland conflict of interest? Just,

00:09:44.720 you know, just this week we, you were, you were quick to market Monday morning saying, uh, Hey,

00:09:50.480 whoa, if she's going to serve as an advisor to Ukraine and by all accounts, this was cooked up weeks

00:09:54.400 earlier. Like it is, it is clearly a kind of conflict that she is still sitting as a liberal MP.

00:10:01.120 Yeah, very much so. And the biggest of ironies is Trudeau couldn't stand

00:10:04.880 carny as far as the free trade deals and conversations there. So we poke another stick

00:10:09.920 in, uh, in, in Trump's eye with, with, with her being appointed, uh, an economic advisor. God best,

00:10:16.400 God bless Ukraine. It's not as if she did a great job running the economy, running the finances and 0.99

00:10:20.400 the economy here in Canada. It's just like, no, haven't they suffered enough? It would be a joke,

00:10:24.400 right? Can we get somebody that's competent to do that job? I mean, I wish I wasn't talking like this.

00:10:29.840 I wish the liberals, and I'm old enough to remember the days of John Cretchen. They had

00:10:34.320 really equal people in the party. The liberals don't seem to have those people around them.

00:10:38.640 And the fact that, um, that, that she can free one can wait to resign the seat. And this is where 0.95

00:10:45.440 our legacy media comes in and why, why I respect Juno news so much is you guys take on the tough

00:10:50.960 issues and you're not afraid to have a tough conversation. If, if freedom was a conservative

00:10:55.520 MP, there'd be shit to pay. Pardon my French too, but the media will be all over this to resign. Not in

00:11:00.960 two weeks, not in two, two months. It's like, but everything gets a, a hall pass with the liberals

00:11:06.400 through the media. And that's not helpful for the average hardworking Canadian either.

00:11:10.160 No. And think of the hard time that Jamil Javani got for just saying as an aside, like,

00:11:16.240 I'd be happy to help with trade stuff here, guys. In doing that, he's not saying I support

00:11:22.720 the Trump administration. He's not saying I'm taking JD's side. He's just saying,

00:11:26.640 I'm a, I am theoretically an asset here for you guys to use, not for them to use.

00:11:33.520 And, you know, you get the, you get the elbows up fervor and bluster. And so,

00:11:38.000 well, let's try to also be charitable here where you, you know, you and I are open-minded. We've said

00:11:43.520 before on the show that we, we want to be proven wrong, um, about, about the new prime minister.

00:11:50.000 Uh, we are certainly not going to stop holding him to account and speaking truthfully about the

00:11:54.720 situation. We're not wearing rose colored glasses. What do you see as a strength? What is an early

00:12:00.320 positive? Like let's, let's maybe we're grasping at straws. I, you certainly have your, your opinions

00:12:05.600 about the, the man and how he acts, but where are you seeing like some potential positives and then

00:12:10.960 how maybe, you know, groups like the NCC or, or folks in this audience can build on that,

00:12:17.920 further pull them towards something resembling common sense.

00:12:22.000 I think that Carney is certainly a smart enough individual. My concern is he hasn't run a business.

00:12:27.120 He's been the governor of the bank of England. And I think he's used to being, doing things his way.

00:12:34.000 I think he'd be smarter if he was seen to have people around him, maybe not members of part of

00:12:39.680 him because I don't think he has a very strong team. Unfortunately,

00:12:42.640 no, that bench, that bench is non-existent. Yeah. Bring in some people that are so-called

00:12:47.280 experts. And I still think to Giovanni's point, what I'm going to say here is a good idea is a

00:12:52.000 good idea. I don't give a darn where it comes from party wise. And I think he brought some people and

00:12:57.680 say, I need some wins between now and the end of February. Um, and just so you know, guys,

00:13:03.600 I don't care about getting reelected in four years. If I survive that long, I want to do what's right for

00:13:09.040 the country. So some of you people in my party that are holding me back, get on side or get the

00:13:14.160 hell out of the way. And I think that message came across a bit and it wasn't as goobly, you know,

00:13:20.960 getting the gold star because you have a press conference and do nothing. If he was actually

00:13:24.800 seen to tangibly get some things done, I would encourage him to do that. Even if it's unpopular

00:13:31.280 in his own party, cause I actually don't think it would cost him votes. Cause I think the people that

00:13:35.520 are in that mushy middle shift, there's 5% of the electorate still there. They're looking for some

00:13:41.760 positive results and he's been a power pushing towards a year. Unless you're a diehard Scott

00:13:47.520 Reid blabbermouth liberal, you have a tough time finding out what successes he's really have. And

00:13:53.760 I tend to judge politicians of all stripes, not what you say, but what you do and what you accomplish

00:13:59.840 on that car is clearly lacking so far. Uh, Jenny Roth, uh, conservative strategist, 0.99

00:14:06.080 great writer, uh, works project Ontario, which the NCC has supported. She calls this amorphous

00:14:12.320 status quo ism. And, and I think the concern is that we're seeing more of that. I, my mind goes to

00:14:18.640 Doug Ford, who the organization has been critical of, um, where if he governed as if he was only going

00:14:25.280 to have four years, think of how impactful and, and what a good job he would be doing instead. It's

00:14:31.600 their, their, they govern just to seemingly just, just hold on to this, you know, just these consecutive

00:14:41.680 wins, which are impressive and great, but it's one thing to win. It's another thing to actually

00:14:45.440 govern and to govern with principles. And I think that the mushy middle, I think that the, those who

00:14:51.200 don't turn out, I even think that some conservatives would, would throw their support behind Carney.

00:14:56.880 If he actually acted on some of these things and actually say, Hey, it beats, it beats what we saw

00:15:02.080 before. And so there's a real opportunity there. One opportunity, which as a young working age guy

00:15:08.400 who can't afford a home and doesn't have a doctor, uh, mass immigration. It, it, tell me a little bit 0.88

00:15:14.000 more about where the NCC work has been on that file. What's been the influence there on behalf of

00:15:19.840 members and Canadian workers? Where do you want to see the continued improvement to a system that's

00:15:25.600 clearly overrun with fraud, abuse and bad actors? Yeah. I think that, uh, we've done some great work

00:15:31.360 on that to highlight and then deserve credit for that personally. But I think, I think what the

00:15:36.000 people don't understand is when Harper had his immigration policies, we bought lots of immigrants 0.84

00:15:41.520 and we need immigrants in this country, but we need the right immigrants. And with the people that 0.99

00:15:46.400 are going to bring value to the country, not just come forward and not be able to find work and get

00:15:51.200 frustrated and want to move back to India, wherever they came from, you need a policy. It's going to 1.00

00:15:56.000 say, where's the needs as a country, what kind of jobs do we want? And we need to bring those people in. 0.79

00:16:02.480 There's no sense importing the third world people that aren't going to work and aren't going to have 1.00

00:16:08.560 jobs. And that may not be politically, you know, sensitive and saying that, but you want people to come

00:16:14.560 from third world countries that have a chance to get ahead. You don't want them on welfare. You 1.00

00:16:19.600 don't want them on, uh, uh, having enough time, you know, getting forward and getting ahead and

00:16:25.040 driving an Uber or a doctor coming from India or somewhere else. So it needs to be a much more

00:16:29.680 focused, um, immigration plan, but you can't take crazy numbers out and say, well, we're letting,

00:16:35.760 we let in a million and a half more people than we should have. So we're going to cut that by 10%. No,

00:16:40.720 go backwards, have them back to where it would have been to sustain healthcare, education,

00:16:48.960 housing. That's all been put to a severe risk because we've gone too crazy on immigration too

00:16:54.000 fast. We need immigrants. And as an organization, we support that clarity, but you need to have a 0.91

00:16:59.440 plan that has a business sense to it. And they didn't think about healthcare, education, the economy,

00:17:04.320 any of it. It's just like, well, we'll bring them in because true, that was a good idea. Well,

00:17:07.760 it was a really bad idea and we're paying for it. No, it was a terrible idea. And I've, I've,

00:17:13.200 I spoke before immigration committee. Uh, I've, I've, I've learned quite a bit from past and

00:17:18.560 present immigration officials of late in, in, in helping steer the, the Canadians for responsible

00:17:24.640 immigration campaign. Like the day after Trudeau, for example, changed the visa requirements for

00:17:30.400 Mexico, half of the flights from Mexico were just people claiming asylum. And these were people 0.99

00:17:36.880 bringing their whole families and, and being like, Oh, I'm a, yeah, I'm a refugee. And they're going

00:17:42.640 like, like the people at the border were going like, Oh no. Like it was that obvious that quickly,

00:17:48.000 like they've, they've lost such control of it. And when you don't have control of it,

00:17:50.960 when the numbers are too high, communities tend to balkanize that they don't integrate.

00:17:55.840 The social supports aren't there, the ability to, uh, own a home and be a member of the community.

00:18:02.160 It is not incentivized. We were seeing in Minnesota where American mass immigration policies of the

00:18:09.360 last few years, the Somali community was coming in in large numbers and then going on welfare and

00:18:15.040 committing fraud. It is just, it is just a thing that happened, whether we, whether it makes some

00:18:20.560 people in a liberal audience uncomfortable or not. And, and it make no mistake that is happening

00:18:26.480 here. It is arguably happening here on a larger scale. This is a country that has lost track of

00:18:32.640 infrastructure development money in the billions of dollars. Like it's, you have to have a, there has

00:18:38.720 to be a kind of white glove. There has to be a welcoming hand. There has to be a number that you can,

00:18:44.560 that you can adjust for Peter. It's it's, and thank you for showing some leadership there and for

00:18:49.200 letting me kind of do my thing on the immigration file.

00:18:51.440 Yeah. I think the thing with Carney though, if you're in the business world, um, the really smart

00:18:56.320 business executives, if they're, if they're kind of considered by the average person around them to

00:19:00.720 be a nine out of 10 capability wise, Mark Carney can't be sitting inside the cabinet meetings that

00:19:08.640 he goes to and not be shaking his head saying, I've got a bunch of buffoons around me that don't

00:19:14.000 know their files. They're in because of geographic importance or gender issues or equality as

00:19:18.960 far as the split between male and female in the cabinet, just get some darn people in that are 1.00

00:19:24.320 very competent at their job. I don't care where I'm from. I don't care what their background is.

00:19:29.600 A strong leader gets people that don't agree with them all the time and relishes that and doesn't

00:19:34.080 punish them for that. And we're seeing none of that from the so-called elbows up. I can deal with

00:19:38.960 anybody guy. I want wins desperately for my kids and my grandkids. I'm just not seeing it. I don't

00:19:45.520 think Carney's listening to people outside his bubble. Maybe he went and spent a day with Giovanni

00:19:50.480 and actually talk to the guy and said, Hmm, maybe you can actually help me in some of these things.

00:19:55.360 And a good idea is a good idea. Let's get going together. That would show some signs that it would

00:20:01.440 help Carney. Yeah. And I don't like being catty. I don't think of myself as a mean person. I try to be

00:20:10.240 well-meaning, but like Lena Diab is a disaster on immigration. Yeah. Gary Ananda Sangary on public

00:20:16.240 safety is a formal, former Tamil tiger, tiger consigliere, like a practical character out of

00:20:23.680 Godfather, but working for the Tamil tigers. And he has access to this file and doesn't know what a

00:20:29.120 pal or an our pal is it. That is incredibly embarrassing. And yet, you know, they do well

00:20:36.880 with a portion of the elect electorate that Peter, there's a good piece in the post this week

00:20:41.520 from professor Royce Koop and Kai Giselle, arguing it's time to bring the boomers back into the 1.00

00:20:46.640 conservative party. This audience here, obviously trends conservative, but the data continue to show

00:20:53.040 a leak in support in the age bracket, North of 60. There are all kinds of reasons for that,

00:20:58.320 be it not sharing in the housing infrastructure, financial employment market, or, or immigrant,

00:21:03.680 immigration problems. You know, for those younger, I get that maybe older Canadians have more of a

00:21:09.280 predilection towards a stronger display of Trump derangement syndrome. I'm not assuming anyone in

00:21:14.400 this audience feels that way, but surely there has to be a strategic pivot of sorts from the

00:21:20.640 conservatives to help keep the pressure on to help keep the polls deadlocked. You and I have discussed

00:21:25.440 this before, you know, I know you want to see them showcase their team more. What else can the

00:21:31.280 conservatives, the leader's office of the official opposition do to ensure that numbers that are now

00:21:37.040 in the 60, mid 60% of over 60s who support the carny liberals make sure that that doesn't get worse

00:21:42.960 and starts to come back down a little bit? I think you've got to see less of Paulio. I think you need,

00:21:49.520 for him, he's a polarizing person for some people. I think he's done good things for the party,

00:21:53.920 but I'm not naive. I mean, how many capable female people, female members of parliament on the

00:21:59.840 conservative side? Have you seen the talk shows? I quite enjoy seeing Lisa Raider's example. She was 1.00

00:22:05.600 a very prominent cabinet minister under Harper. You see some really smart people, but I think you

00:22:11.120 need to see more of that team out there and really spend some time with the over 60s and say,

00:22:16.960 what am I not doing right? What can I do better? Not give up your principles, but it's like,

00:22:21.920 usually when you're over 60, you become, when you get older, you become a bit more conservative. You don't

00:22:27.440 become more liberal. I'm thinking, you know, life's- It's a unique spread going on right now.

00:22:31.840 Our young people are getting more conservative and some of our seniors are becoming more liberal.

00:22:36.880 Like that bucks trends globally. But I don't know if you saw the interview with Donna Friesen,

00:22:42.160 with Paulio and then with Carney, put them two side by side. Our media does a horrible job. She was just

00:22:49.040 flat out rude beyond belief to Paulio, dismissive, cutting him off. And she let Carney get away with

00:22:56.080 his nonsense. And you need a media that's curious. I mean, you see CBS pivoting in the States to try

00:23:01.440 and reclaim some of that ground. We need a media that's curious. And we'll say,

00:23:05.600 I don't trust any politician based on what they're saying. I based on what's really going on. And

00:23:10.320 we could use some help in the media, but you've also got to give the media,

00:23:13.280 you got to come to them too and say, don't tell them, but we're going to change our approach.

00:23:18.400 We're going to put more people on the shows that can show that the greater population that

00:23:23.600 we've got a really strong team. It's not just Paulio. Then they're going, yeah,

00:23:26.720 I've heard of him too much. I mean, who else you got?

00:23:28.960 Yeah. Good notes there. Peter, provincially in the year ahead, I look to BC. I'm out here.

00:23:36.800 It's a mess. Ontario is a similar mess. And you and I both have taken some arrows for

00:23:41.440 the organization helping sort of lead on some common sense criticism of Doug Ford's liberal

00:23:47.360 and everything but name approach. Where do you want to see British Columbia get it together?

00:23:55.200 And will the NCC be getting involved if an election is called to unseat David Eby?

00:23:59.840 Yeah, I think we need to be involved with that. But I actually, I almost fell off my chair. I almost

00:24:03.680 heard something that was intelligent of him. Eby said that, you know, talking about the Venezuela

00:24:07.680 situation, how that would affect the pipeline coming to the west coast. He said, well, maybe we should

00:24:11.200 start thinking about a refinery in Canada. It's like, oh my goodness, we can actually do something or

00:24:17.120 manufacturing something. Our industrial core has been hollowed out under 10 years of liberal,

00:24:22.240 do nothing government. And if guys like Eby are sort of talking about refineries and businesses that

00:24:27.280 actually bring value added to our country, instead of shipping our raw materials offshore for people

00:24:33.760 to make a lot more money off ours, then I'm all for it. But Eby, he knows damn well he has no say in

00:24:39.600 whether the pipeline gets built or not. So if there's a provincial campaign, we will definitely be

00:24:46.400 involved to try and get Eby taken out because I don't think he represents a lot of people in that

00:24:51.440 province anymore, either. I mean, you want wealth, you want, you know, you want income,

00:24:57.280 you want to take care of the poor people as well. But you've got to create an economic environment

00:25:01.840 where people want to invest. And that's all the governments can do is sort of create that

00:25:04.880 environment. They don't create the jobs where they do for their public much, but you need them

00:25:09.600 to create the environment where people actually want to invest. And Eby is not anywhere near close to having

00:25:14.640 people that are foreign investors, international investors saying, oh, that's a great place to

00:25:18.560 invest now because capital moves really quickly, Alex, as you well know, and it's not ready to come

00:25:24.000 to Canada under Eby and Carney yet. That's for darn sure. No, they're not a safe bet. And in British

00:25:28.800 Columbia now, under David Eby and these secretive land deals he's been striking under DRIPA, you have

00:25:36.000 lenders being, you know, denying claims. You have folks who are afraid to even buy property, even though it's

00:25:42.480 already incredibly expensive and most people can't buy it. And on that refinery quote, it is encouraging

00:25:47.920 that it's actually a growth minded quote from a degrowth premier who in some ways has tried to and

00:25:54.480 has held our economy hostage. We also don't have the capabilities yet to do that. And so the concern

00:26:00.000 would be is that is another excuse. But even on decriminalization, he's having to admit it didn't work.

00:26:06.480 But it is. But that is where's the actual responsibility there? Like, I gosh, I don't

00:26:12.640 just want that guy gone from office because you can see the damage he's wrought. There are nightly

00:26:16.080 emergency room closures. Maternity wards are closing at the last minute. He should be in front of a 0.99

00:26:21.600 tribunal. Like it's it's astonishing what he's gotten away with. And I hope that everyone involved

00:26:28.800 here or NCC supporters or the common sense minded on the West Coast understand that like for Canada to

00:26:35.600 turn the corner here, like you need to take you need to take care of David Eby. Peter, to wrap,

00:26:41.440 you're in the movement building business, the big tent business, the future of Canadian conservatism

00:26:46.640 business. And I believe you have some more news on that front. Tell me a little bit about the

00:26:51.760 Canadian Freedom Institute. Yeah, it's interesting. We had a it goes back to Peter Monk and a meeting

00:26:57.520 I had with him. He was a longtime NCC supporter. He approached us at a reception we had for

00:27:04.400 Stephen Harper as he was heading to a meeting with Brian Moroney, of all people, and said,

00:27:09.120 I'd love to give you more money for your for your organization. But I want to be in a situation where

00:27:13.760 it's you're doing more research and think tank and outreaching to the younger generation.

00:27:18.240 But you've got to have a charitable organization to for me to do that, because a lot of money from

00:27:23.200 foundations, for example, in this country has to be given to another charitable organization to make

00:27:28.080 it work. The National Citizens Coalition is not charitable tax deductible because we're political.

00:27:33.840 And the CRA rules of 10% of what you're doing is political, you can't get a donation receipt. So

00:27:39.600 we've revived Canadian Freedom Institute is a free market, free enterprise organization,

00:27:46.080 it's tax deductible. We have good people on the board of directors, we're in the process of

00:27:52.320 the websites live now at morefreedom.ca. We want to attract some some new donors and new investors to

00:28:00.000 get people to go to, for example, to speak at campuses about the conservative movement and where

00:28:04.960 things are going, talk about free market situation, talk about controversial things that people won't

00:28:10.160 approach. And I think there's a real need for a group like that. So it's it's not part of the NCC,

00:28:15.680 but we certainly were the people that founded and organized it. And we look forward to bringing that

00:28:20.400 first, you know, making that another voice in the marketplace that's needed, because there's enough

00:28:24.240 voices on the left that have failed for many decades. And I think we have the unique ability

00:28:29.440 with our with our supporters and with the people we have on our CFI team to make that a force in the

00:28:35.440 marketplace over the next few years. That's exciting. And yeah, there sure is on the left, there is an

00:28:41.200 entire not just cottage industry mansion like where you have nonprofits and charities that exist to log

00:28:51.040 rule for for the policies and then the subsidy comes. It's all it's a circular economy, you know,

00:28:57.760 similarly to the way that some critics of Ontario Skills Development Fund have described it. And so

00:29:03.760 that sounds like an interesting movement, not just a good counter signal, but this is the time to build,

00:29:09.200 especially over the next few years. This is the time to talk to young conservatism to keep these kids

00:29:15.680 in the tent and to try to get this country back on track. Pete, thanks for being a leader on that file

00:29:21.920 and others. And thanks for joining us today. Thanks for having me, Alex. You be welcome.

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