00:02:10.540Do you think that Trudeau has had some genuine epiphany on immigration, or is he perhaps trying to drag Polyev into a debate over immigration
00:02:17.880to perhaps change his fortunes in the polls?
00:02:20.420I think that Trudeau is very cognizant of the fact that the views the political elite in Canada hold on immigration
00:02:28.260have diverged significantly from those of the Canadian public.
00:02:32.500There is a poll out by Abacus Polling, released in late November, which shows that 67% of Canadians want lower levels of immigration.
00:02:44.260That includes 68% of the native-born population, as well as 62% of immigrants themselves,
00:02:51.340which I think does a lot to dismantle the myth that this is entirely driven by xenophobia.
00:02:58.100Further, in that poll, you see that every single demographic, male and female, regional, as well as political party membership,
00:03:08.860every demographic breakdown opposes the current levels of immigration, which are being implemented by the Trudeau government.
00:03:17.020And I think that he has made this concession on temporary immigration, international students and temporary foreign workers,
00:03:23.020definitely not out of any sort of internal epiphany, but rather because he has recognized this divergence.
00:03:31.940He is declining in the polls in every single province outside of Quebec, and he is forced at this point to make some sort of concession.
00:03:43.420Well, his opponent, Pierre Polyev, seems to be so afraid to talk about immigration that he'd rather talk about simply anything else.
00:03:53.440I think it was one of your articles I read where you talk about how the fact that there is such a popular consensus now in favor of reducing immigration,
00:04:01.640it's one of the only issues in Canada that so many people actually agree on.
00:04:05.340Given that, the line that we hear from Conservative Party fanatics, diehard supporters, is that Polyev simply just cannot get off of the messaging trail.
00:04:15.200If he ventures away from his talking points, axing the tax, building more homes, if he says anything about immigration, it will only hurt him in the polls.
00:04:26.740Do you think that it makes sense to avoid this issue altogether?
00:04:30.020Pierre Polyev is afraid of losing votes in the ethnic enclaves outside of Toronto, Vancouver, and in Montreal.
00:04:40.500This is the strategy that the Conservative Party has pursued for most of the 21st century and several decades leading up to it.
00:04:49.180This is an incorrect strategy from a pure polling perspective because the majority of immigrants do actually want lower immigration for a variety of pragmatic reasons.
00:05:01.480The housing crisis, it's a simple issue of supply and demand, is driven by the fact that 1.2 million newcomers entered Canada in 2023.
00:05:13.460The overwhelmed infrastructure, the crowded hospitals, these things are becoming tangible and palpable in the everyday experience of both foreign-born Canadians and native-born Canadians.
00:05:25.840This strategy by the Conservative Party is pure cowardice.
00:05:29.560At the end of the day, they are more concerned with making a very small amount of ethnic lobby organizations angry and in breaking the political correctness norms which are enforced by the media.
00:05:47.240And they would rather avoid this issue entirely, despite the fact that 82% of Conservative voters, the highest out of any political party outside of the People's Party, want lower migration levels.
00:06:04.100It seems very strange to me that the Conservatives are not only just avoiding this topic, but when the question does get asked to them, which is a rarity, I would expect the Canadian legacy media press to be pounding this question to them every single time because it's forcing them to respond to their base.
00:06:21.320Every time they get asked the question, Riley, they end up not just avoiding it, they end up basically sounding as though they want to go even further than the Liberals sometimes.
00:06:29.540We've heard Trudeau calling, sorry, it's easy to mix them up when you talk about immigration.
00:06:34.080We've heard Polyev call for direct flights to Amritsar, for example.
00:06:37.640We've heard several Conservative MPs say that actually they want life to be more easier for international students.
00:06:45.560They want to be able to bring more international students to Canada, despite the fact that we know the numbers are against this.
00:06:51.200And we also have provincial premiers who call themselves Conservatives, who are basically immigration extremists,
00:08:39.980And correct me if I'm wrong, but he actually wanted to go to 3 million and he had to pull himself back?
00:08:44.800Yeah, no, he is such a proud member of Canada's cult of growth, population growth.
00:08:51.640It is a very simple way to achieve an illusion of economic success, simply growing the gross population of a region.
00:09:01.540He initially wanted to go to 3 million.
00:09:03.880And after some internal discussions with his advisors, he decided on the conservative approach of growing Nova Scotia's population to 2 million.
00:09:11.100Of course, we are seeing in the urban centers of Nova Scotia, a massive spike in rents.
00:09:18.860We are seeing homelessness increase as the provincial migration programs, the nominee programs overseen by Tim Houston's government are increasing year by year.
00:09:33.400And for those who are not aware, Canada's fertility rate is very low.
00:09:38.960And so Tim Houston, his strategy and that of the Century Initiative, et cetera, is to essentially grow Canada's population solely through immigration.
00:09:52.020And that would be the case in Nova Scotia as well.
00:09:53.820And let's get into this a little more, because this is something I simply just have no clue as to why this is taking place in Canada.
00:10:01.460It seems that in other countries, they're starting to wake up to this reality that they have to start having more children.
00:10:06.180They have to take their birth rates seriously.
00:10:08.160But no one in this country, no one at a political level, at a political leadership level,
00:10:13.000I think, has ever had the conversation about fertility rates in Canada at a serious level.
00:10:19.640I don't think they've ever sat down and said, what's our policy going to be to increase birth rates in Canada?
00:10:24.360Instead, it's just a sole reliance on immigration.
00:10:28.340There seems to be no interest in this birth rate question, and yet it's disastrously below replacement level.
00:10:35.760Why is that conversation not being had at all?
00:10:38.480Well, if you think about it, their argument is that Canada needs large-scale immigration
00:10:44.920to make up for the fact that we have an aging demographic caused by low fertility rates for some decades now.
00:10:53.580Their argument is beset by the single biggest issue, which is that their own immigration policy does not accomplish this.
00:11:03.940There is an entire stream in the family reunification category, which is for grandparents.
00:11:09.780Many people in their 50s come from India or China to retire here.
00:11:14.920And there is, among the temporary immigration subset, there is a massive over-representation of single males.
00:11:23.980If their argument was carried through to its logical conclusion,
00:11:28.660we would see almost exclusively young families being brought to Canada.
00:11:31.620But for the sake of argument, let's take it at face value that we need a large influx of newcomers
00:11:40.700to make up for the fact that we are not having enough kids in Canada.
00:11:45.540Now, this is predicated on the assumption that an aging population is a disaster.
00:11:53.400An aging population is a problem, but it is something that we can deal with internally.
00:12:00.500Their solution to bring in endless amounts of immigrants per year is essentially a Ponzi scheme,
00:12:09.080where over time, those immigrants, when they move to an industrialized, western, wealthy country like Canada,
00:12:16.360will come to adopt the same lifestyle that we have here, which leads to lower fertility rates.
00:12:23.000Their solution at that point, once the fertility rates of immigrants drop, would be, you guessed it, add more immigrants.
00:12:31.200This would increase ad nauseum and would not solve the fundamental problem,
00:12:37.500which is that Canadians here at the moment are not having enough kids to reach the 2.1 level, which is the replacement rate.
00:12:45.220However, another major issue with the current immigration policy is that it is, in and of itself, causing the fertility rates to be artificially lowered
00:13:00.220because the housing crisis, which is driven entirely by immigration, is a major reason, if you talk to young people,
00:13:09.980people in their 20s, even in their 30s, they will say, look, where am I going to raise my kids?
00:13:15.060Am I going to raise them in a shoebox apartment in Toronto for $3,000 a month?
00:13:20.200People want a detached house to raise their kids.
00:16:54.940Where do you think this all began in our country?
00:16:56.600It began, ultimately, with Pierre Trudeau.
00:17:00.960He implemented multiculturalism in 1971.
00:17:04.620It's coming on 50 years, and the present-day population of Canada largely treats this as a state religion.
00:17:12.280They view this as our central ethos, and they are proud that we are distinguished from the rest of the Western world
00:17:19.300by elevating all sorts of different cultures within our polity.
00:17:24.800However, it is less known that in implementing official multiculturalism in 1971, Pierre Trudeau,
00:17:34.160he actually rejected the findings of a royal commission, which was in the late 60s, 1967,
00:17:43.040the Royal Commission on Biculturalism and Bilingualism, which found that the Canadian nation is ultimately derived and founded by Anglo-Canadian and French-Canadian culture.
00:17:58.620The commission did certainly acknowledge the contributions of later waves of immigrants, including Italians and Eastern Europeans and particularly Ukrainians and so on.
00:18:10.520However, Pierre Trudeau, much like his son later on, ultimately believed that any expression of nationalism would ultimately lead to some sort of violence or oppression against minorities within the nation.
00:18:29.680And he even said that the very notion of nation-state is absurd, and he wanted to essentially defuse both French-Canadian and Anglo-Canadian identity at the same time by dismantling the national culture.
00:18:45.760He, this legacy was certainly carried forth by Justin Trudeau later on, and he is well known for his quote that Canada is a post-national state with no core identity.
00:18:59.840And these two men have done an incredible degree of damage to Canada, not only overtly in their immigration policies and their support for multiculturalism,
00:19:10.360but in essentially leading to a situation in which Canadians feel that any expression of their own culture is a form of xenophobia.
00:19:21.180Do you think that there is any merit to the point that, you know, the longer this goes on, the more the more that Canadians have to have to accept this destruction of their culture,
00:19:35.160this watching themselves basically become slowly become more and more of a minority in their own major cities?
00:19:43.260Do you think that there's going to be a backlash eventually if this keeps going at the pace it is right now?
00:19:48.120Well, I hope that when the backlash comes that it will be purely political.
00:19:55.840What needs to happen is that Canadians need to contact their member of parliament.
00:20:00.720They need to contact their national parties, and they need to let it be known that they are not consenting to this unprecedented policy of mass immigration
00:20:12.260immigration, and to the policy of official multiculturalism, which is downgrading Anglo-Canadian and French-Canadian culture within our country.
00:20:21.360And the fact is that every political party, the Greens, the NDP, the Conservatives, the Liberals, they are not representing their constituents.
00:20:33.500A majority of the membership of every political party is opposed to the current levels of immigration and would like to see them reduced.
00:20:41.500Now, the divergence between the political class and the people in the country, the only way to bridge that gap and to allow the population to exert its own will once more
00:20:57.740is for the political class to be scared of a political backlash against their current positions, which are at odds with the people.
00:21:09.340I hope that the backlash will come in that form.
00:21:34.160And my concern is that a backlash will be far worse than what the political class is expecting.
00:21:40.140And I don't think that's what anyone wants to see, because ultimately we are a great country and we don't want to have this major turn for the worse.
00:21:49.740Now, what do you think about the possibility that Pierre Polyev will actually come out of his shell if he wins and address this immigration issue head on?
00:21:58.420Do you take the word from Conservative Party supporters that he will do it once he wins?
00:22:06.180His position on immigration has evolved.
00:22:09.420Over the past year, starting in the spring, I was consistently calling him out, as well as a number of his MPs, for essentially supporting the Trudeau policy on immigration.
00:22:19.800I called out Tim Uppel, in particular, for having pledged in a speech in Winnipeg to abolish the English and French testing requirement for new immigrants.
00:22:33.160I called out Scott Aitchison and a variety of other MPs and Pierre Polyev himself.
00:22:39.200I posted their videos on Twitter, and it gained a huge circulation, and there was a lot of anger I could see in the comments section of Conservatives saying,
00:22:48.800look, we thought that the Conservative Party is the policy of common sense on immigration, and that's just what we implicitly assumed.
00:22:57.860However, we're seeing that there is essentially no difference between the Conservative Party and the Liberal position on immigration.
00:23:04.200However, recently, I have seen that he has pledged to enact some sort of mathematical formula which will essentially tie population growth in Canada to the housing stock and the healthcare capacity.
00:23:22.520Now, if he were to follow through with that, that would be a great improvement on our present immigration policy.
00:23:29.020It would mean probably a massive reduction in newcomers and a cut in both the temporary foreign worker streams, international students, and also permanent residents.
00:23:43.340I believe that he will follow through with this to an extent.
00:23:48.800I think that he is likely to reduce permanent resident levels to something like they were under Harper.
00:23:57.260The problem is that the immigration issue in Canada, it has gotten so bad that we need serious and deep reform.
00:24:09.260The international student program needs serious reform beyond the present cap that the Trudeau government has put in, as well as the foreign worker stream.
00:24:18.880And permanent residency levels were already too high for Canada's assimilation capacity under Harper.
00:24:27.040They were 250,000, roughly, depending on the year.
00:24:32.240And so currently they're double that, but they were already too high.
00:24:38.520They were actually already too high under Mulroney.
00:24:41.360He had tripled immigration levels, and the most significant thing that he did was he departed from our previous policy, which was called a tap-on, tap-off policy.
00:24:52.440At certain years, when our economy needed it, we would have a greater influx of newcomers.
00:24:58.340In other years, we would shut the spigot off, so to speak.
00:25:02.240Mulroney, he basically scrapped that policy, and he made the continuous inflow of immigrants into Canada not based on economic circumstances.
00:25:16.380He made that a norm, and that became the consensus going forward.
00:25:21.500He was actually the first prime minister to raise immigration levels during an economic downturn, and ever since then, with slight variations, immigration has increased.
00:25:35.900And you saw during Harper's years that he would occasionally throw some red meat to the base.
00:25:41.580He would say, oh, well, I'm opposed to the wearing of kneecaps in a citizenship ceremony.
00:25:46.420Or he would say, comment about old stock Canadians that was sort of designed to ignite some sort of controversy.
00:25:55.560However, the levels continue to increase.
00:26:34.660And the second is that he's not emphasizing it enough.
00:26:37.240He should be going out in his rallies and the very first few lines should be devoted to, hey, have you guys heard about Trudeau's immigration levels?
00:26:48.440And I heard that there's this group of hoity-toity individuals called the Century Initiative that wants to triple Canada's population to 100 million.
00:26:58.000He almost never emphasizes it in his rallies and he should.