Juno News - November 10, 2021


Canada's PCR testing is a sham


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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:06.660 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:12.840 Coming up, Canada's disastrous and costly PCR testing requirement,
00:00:17.400 Aaron O'Toole's cracking the whip on Conservative caucus members,
00:00:20.440 and his climate change, the new public health crisis.
00:00:24.880 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
00:00:30.900 Hello and welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:35.280 This is the Andrew Lawton Show on True North, Tuesday, November 9th, 2021.
00:00:40.320 It is great to have you aboard the program here.
00:00:43.600 I was gone last week on a vacation.
00:00:46.840 I'm glad to be back, although I very narrowly wasn't back.
00:00:51.740 And this actually is a personal anecdote, but also one that ties in very well
00:00:56.420 with a timely story I wanted to get into,
00:00:58.360 and that is Canada's punitive, distressing, and costly PCR test requirement
00:01:04.500 for people to enter the country, including Canadians who have been traveling abroad,
00:01:09.000 something that, believe it or not, is legal,
00:01:12.000 and want to come back home for reasons that become less and less clear with each passing day.
00:01:17.000 So just the primer on this is that if you leave the country and want to come in,
00:01:21.740 whether you are a Canadian citizen, resident,
00:01:24.300 or whether you are just someone visiting Canada,
00:01:26.900 you've got to go through what is called a molecular test.
00:01:30.020 And for the most part, this is a PCR test,
00:01:32.920 although there are a couple of others that are eligible.
00:01:35.560 Rapid tests will not suffice.
00:01:37.340 So if you do a rapid test, you can't come to Canada.
00:01:40.100 And no matter where you are in the world,
00:01:41.740 you've got to procure one of these and get results back within 72 hours,
00:01:45.880 or you will not be allowed to board a flight to Canada.
00:01:49.040 So my wife and I last week were in Vienna, Austria,
00:01:52.840 and we had purchased these testing kits that were actually just launched a couple of weeks ago
00:01:57.880 by Air Canada and Switch Health, and they're called RT Lamp Tests.
00:02:02.720 The government takes them.
00:02:03.780 You do them yourself, but you have to be on a video call with some Switch Health employee
00:02:08.160 to make sure that you've shoved the swab up your nose sufficiently
00:02:12.140 and haven't been monkeying around with the QR code or anything like that.
00:02:15.820 Anyway, so we bought a couple of these tests, $150 each,
00:02:19.740 brought them overseas with us so that we wouldn't have to deal with the hassle
00:02:22.780 of trying to hunt down a PCR test in some foreign land
00:02:26.660 and waste half a day of vacation doing it and so on and so forth.
00:02:30.080 So we do this.
00:02:30.900 We're trying to do the right thing, trying to make things easier for ourselves.
00:02:34.760 Did not work out that way at all.
00:02:37.380 So we're in our hotel room.
00:02:38.940 We're on the Skype call with the nurse.
00:02:40.380 We're doing this.
00:02:41.060 I shoved the swab up.
00:02:42.080 And you have to stick it in this vial, stir it around.
00:02:46.300 And then you stick the vial in this machine and put the batteries in.
00:02:49.380 And the machine will do its business for, I think, like 25, 30 minutes or so.
00:02:53.740 And then it tell you positive or negative.
00:02:56.720 So I'm doing this purely as a formality.
00:02:59.660 And 20 minutes later or so, the machine lights up.
00:03:03.400 The test is done.
00:03:04.540 Positive.
00:03:05.560 So according to the Switch Health RT lamp, I have COVID or had as at least last week
00:03:12.000 when I was doing this.
00:03:12.760 And my wife, hers is still processing.
00:03:15.440 Then five minutes later, 10 minutes later, whatever it is, hers lights up negative.
00:03:19.400 So the two of us who have been, you know, like sitting beside each other doing the test,
00:03:23.240 we've been inseparable for the trip.
00:03:24.840 We were together every day, all day for the days leading up to the trip.
00:03:28.620 Somehow I've got COVID and she does not according to the test.
00:03:33.260 Now felt completely fine.
00:03:34.700 I wasn't worried about actually having COVID.
00:03:37.500 I was worried about testing positive because, well, as much as I enjoyed Vienna and would
00:03:42.280 have liked staying there perhaps for a longer period of time at some point, I didn't want
00:03:46.040 to do it in like some Austrian COVID gulag detention center.
00:03:50.900 I wanted to come home on my terms or stay there on my terms, not end up in Austrian quarantine.
00:03:56.700 So that was my concern with this.
00:03:58.440 So I'm like, this is nonsense.
00:03:59.840 This is awful.
00:04:00.400 So thankfully, Austria is a place that has a lot of access to COVID testing.
00:04:05.640 It's just something the country has made a point of trying to have available for people.
00:04:10.140 My wife was able to pick up a few rapid tests from a pharmacy across the street.
00:04:14.700 I did one rapid test.
00:04:16.080 It was negative.
00:04:17.700 Slept on it.
00:04:18.540 Did another one in the morning.
00:04:19.920 It was negative.
00:04:20.780 At this point, I'm fairly optimistic that I had gotten a false positive on the first test.
00:04:26.900 So I went to procure a lab test, like a proper test.
00:04:31.060 I did that.
00:04:31.780 Got the other guy to put the swab up my nose and in the back of my throat.
00:04:34.680 And that was it, thankfully.
00:04:36.420 And that one came back a couple hours later as negative.
00:04:39.300 So I was able to take that test, get on the plane, come home.
00:04:42.840 And that is where I am now, thankfully, back on Canadian soil.
00:04:47.100 So all of this to say, I'm pretty good at rolling with the punches.
00:04:51.780 I'm pretty good at being spontaneous if I need to be.
00:04:56.400 But I could see a lot of people, a lot of travelers that have tried to do everything right,
00:05:00.460 being in a situation here where they're just downright terrified
00:05:02.720 because they think they're going to be stranded in another country,
00:05:05.700 despite not actually being sick.
00:05:08.160 And remember, the reason that these take-home do-it-yourself tests are desirable
00:05:13.100 is because in some parts of the world, you can't access a PCR test
00:05:16.460 or you can't access one that can guarantee you results back within 72 hours.
00:05:20.960 So the idea of doing one yourself is pretty appealing to a lot of people.
00:05:24.720 So I can imagine just how terrifying this would be for someone,
00:05:28.500 especially if it's the first time they've traveled internationally in two years,
00:05:32.200 which is probable for a lot of people.
00:05:34.280 This was my first time overseas since I was covering some conference in 2019.
00:05:39.620 So that's where we were.
00:05:41.780 But the fascinating thing about this is that I was not sick.
00:05:46.120 I had, even if I had had COVID, managed to go weeks without giving it to my wife
00:05:50.800 and having no symptoms.
00:05:52.340 And the reality is that I was not posing a threat to anyone.
00:05:56.000 But the government's PCR testing requirement almost stranded me abroad.
00:06:01.320 Now, some of you listening may think,
00:06:04.160 yeah, well, that's actually better for Canada if you're stranded abroad, Andrew.
00:06:07.000 It's not just about me.
00:06:07.900 It's about everyone.
00:06:09.340 It's about all of you.
00:06:10.300 This week, the United States finally reopened its land border to Canadians,
00:06:14.820 which means if you are a Canadian,
00:06:16.640 especially one of them who lives in the border community,
00:06:19.000 like Windsor, Ontario, Sarnia, Abbotsford, BC,
00:06:22.280 and this is just part of your life,
00:06:24.580 just going back and forth across the border,
00:06:26.560 getting cheap groceries in the U.S.,
00:06:28.500 going to American restaurants,
00:06:30.400 you can't come back unless you can prove to the government
00:06:33.860 that you've had one of these molecular tests,
00:06:36.240 even if you just go over for an hour.
00:06:38.180 You go over to the U.S.,
00:06:39.200 you have lunch at Olive Garden,
00:06:40.480 you come back home,
00:06:41.520 you've got to have a PCR test
00:06:43.160 or you're going to get fined $5,000,
00:06:46.180 which defeats any savings you might pick up
00:06:48.440 by getting all you can eat bread and salad
00:06:50.100 at American Olive Garden.
00:06:51.820 Can you tell I'm in Ontario,
00:06:53.120 which got rid of Olive Garden several years ago?
00:06:55.440 Anyway, Olive Garden is not the point of this.
00:06:57.520 The point is that this is a restriction on mobility
00:07:00.580 that has nothing to do with science,
00:07:02.860 it has nothing to do with public health,
00:07:04.500 and the government knows this.
00:07:06.780 The government absolutely knows this,
00:07:08.720 and I'll tell you how they know it.
00:07:10.780 Because the whole point of the test
00:07:12.280 is that it has to be done less than 72 hours
00:07:14.740 before your return if you are arriving by land
00:07:18.140 or when you board the flight if you're coming in by air.
00:07:21.280 Less than 72 hours.
00:07:23.540 If you're going to the U.S.
00:07:25.460 and coming back in an afternoon, say,
00:07:27.740 you can use a test that you got in Canada
00:07:31.700 three days before you left.
00:07:34.160 I could get a test at 1 p.m. on a Tuesday,
00:07:37.820 go to the U.S. at 9 a.m. on a Friday,
00:07:42.000 come back at noon on a Friday,
00:07:43.860 and show that test that I got in Canada three days prior,
00:07:47.240 and that will admit me into the country.
00:07:50.640 Now, if I do this,
00:07:52.820 even if I magically picked up COVID in the United States
00:07:56.300 on that Friday and the couple of hours there,
00:07:58.500 this test is not detecting it.
00:08:01.620 So the testing has nothing to do with the actual travel risk.
00:08:05.960 The original testing requirement was to make sure
00:08:08.220 that if you were coming from Wuhan
00:08:09.980 and you had been in Wuhan for six weeks,
00:08:11.960 you weren't bringing in some new strain.
00:08:14.000 What are we up to?
00:08:14.700 The Kappa Alpha Theta variant or whatever.
00:08:17.160 So that was the point of it.
00:08:19.300 It wasn't meant to be if you're going away
00:08:21.560 for just a couple of days for a couple of hours
00:08:23.700 that this test would pick it up magically
00:08:26.340 and be the deal breaker in you getting home.
00:08:29.960 That was never meant to be the point of it.
00:08:33.040 So even if you accept at face value
00:08:35.400 that these tests are effective,
00:08:37.420 that these tests work,
00:08:38.900 they aren't working for the stated purpose.
00:08:41.960 But as my case demonstrates,
00:08:43.460 these tests are not,
00:08:44.580 as numerous people have been warning for two years now,
00:08:48.580 as much of a silver bullet in detection
00:08:52.200 as so many of their proponents like to be.
00:08:54.640 I got a false positive.
00:08:55.580 I think it's highly unlikely
00:08:57.500 it could have been a genuine positive
00:08:59.460 because of how soon after I got the negatives
00:09:02.140 and the subsequent negative
00:09:03.280 and the subsequent negative after that.
00:09:05.380 So it was a false positive.
00:09:06.900 False positives are a genuine risk.
00:09:09.980 Even the instruction manuals
00:09:11.820 that come with these tests
00:09:12.760 show that false positives are a risk.
00:09:15.600 They say they're rare, of course,
00:09:17.700 but this is a very high stakes game
00:09:20.240 for Canadians who want to travel abroad
00:09:22.140 when it is not producing any public health benefit.
00:09:26.900 And in my case, look,
00:09:28.460 these tests that we brought away were $150 each.
00:09:31.520 The test I had to get in Austria
00:09:33.180 to get myself back in,
00:09:35.000 the one that came back negative,
00:09:36.400 was 89 euros,
00:09:37.780 which was actually a fairly inexpensive test
00:09:40.420 in some parts, even in the US.
00:09:42.720 Some of these tests,
00:09:43.700 the ones that will guarantee you results
00:09:45.620 within a certain timeframe,
00:09:47.060 cost $250 American.
00:09:49.300 So you take a family of four
00:09:51.340 over to Bellingham, Washington
00:09:53.360 or Port Huron, Michigan
00:09:55.140 to come back, 1,000 bucks US.
00:09:58.100 Most families cannot afford that.
00:10:01.040 So as always,
00:10:01.900 these restrictions that we see governments impose
00:10:04.020 only seem to target one specific demographic.
00:10:07.820 When the land border closed,
00:10:09.100 the rich could ship their cars over
00:10:10.720 and take a helicopter.
00:10:12.020 The rich could always fly into the US,
00:10:14.020 fly back.
00:10:14.680 The rich could afford these homes
00:10:16.040 in which they could quarantine.
00:10:17.100 It's the lower income people
00:10:19.160 that have no recourse
00:10:21.620 against these punitive measures
00:10:22.940 that even today are being punished
00:10:24.640 and prevented from traveling,
00:10:26.340 even though the reopening has happened
00:10:28.680 because they can't afford
00:10:30.620 this testing requirement.
00:10:32.100 And the government's plan with this,
00:10:34.520 if it wasn't abundantly clear,
00:10:36.100 is not to prevent the importation of COVID.
00:10:39.560 It's to reduce travel.
00:10:41.300 It's to reduce mobility.
00:10:43.180 They want to make it so costly
00:10:45.100 and so cumbersome to travel
00:10:46.580 that most people can't do it
00:10:48.600 or think it's not worth the hassle
00:10:50.140 and will decide not to.
00:10:52.180 But the government can claim,
00:10:53.160 oh, you have a right to.
00:10:54.300 Sure, you're allowed to.
00:10:56.540 But they've taken it away.
00:10:58.040 It really isn't a legitimate choice
00:10:59.820 in the same way that a vaccine mandate
00:11:02.100 to travel by air is not a legitimate choice
00:11:04.560 because you're being forced to
00:11:06.340 if you want to partake in the certain benefits
00:11:08.880 or what are supposed to be benefits
00:11:10.300 of living in a free society.
00:11:13.400 Now, I'm not alone in this, by the way.
00:11:15.200 Most people are saying
00:11:16.360 this testing requirement
00:11:17.540 does not need to exist.
00:11:19.800 Leaders in American border communities
00:11:21.580 have been saying for quite some time,
00:11:23.140 American business owners
00:11:24.260 have been saying for quite some time
00:11:25.900 they think this testing requirement
00:11:27.340 is very punitive.
00:11:28.980 It does not help public health.
00:11:30.320 And more importantly,
00:11:31.400 it hurts these border communities
00:11:32.800 that have been longing for the reopening
00:11:35.220 that is supposed to be taking place this week.
00:11:37.540 But even the public health experts,
00:11:40.180 the public health experts
00:11:41.340 on whom the government says it relies
00:11:43.400 to make determinations about public policy
00:11:46.000 are saying this is absolutely not required.
00:11:49.500 Now, all the federal government is saying
00:11:51.160 is that they'll continue to evaluate the measures
00:11:53.340 and make necessary adjustments as required.
00:11:56.080 That's what a spokesperson
00:11:56.820 for the new health minister,
00:11:58.860 Jean-Yves Duclos, has said to Global News,
00:12:01.420 which is basically the answer
00:12:03.500 that they give to anything now
00:12:04.680 so that they don't end up stepping in it
00:12:06.160 like when Patty Hajdu was calling
00:12:07.600 border closures racist
00:12:09.020 like three minutes before they closed the border.
00:12:11.060 They don't want to say anything decisively.
00:12:12.940 So it's just, well, we continue to monitor
00:12:14.940 and look and we're exploring and all that jazz.
00:12:17.860 But let's look at what the actual public health experts
00:12:20.600 are saying here.
00:12:21.800 Dr. Amesh Adalja,
00:12:23.420 who is a senior scholar
00:12:24.640 at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security,
00:12:26.520 says, wouldn't it make more sense
00:12:27.780 to have a rapid test done at the border?
00:12:30.900 You can get one in 50 minutes or even faster
00:12:33.000 rather than a 72-hour-old PCR test
00:12:35.940 that's sometimes logistically difficult
00:12:37.680 and expensive to get.
00:12:40.060 Fatima Kakar,
00:12:41.000 who's a pediatric infectious disease specialist
00:12:43.260 in Montreal, says,
00:12:44.660 yeah, the PCR is the gold standard,
00:12:46.300 but if we're talking about a population
00:12:47.740 that's overwhelmingly vaccinated,
00:12:49.620 is it okay to take the risk
00:12:51.120 of just using rapid tests?
00:12:52.660 And she says, yeah,
00:12:53.500 it's completely reasonable
00:12:54.740 to ask that question.
00:12:57.000 Dr. Zane Chagla,
00:12:58.540 an infectious diseases physician
00:12:59.980 at St. Joseph's Healthcare in Hamilton,
00:13:01.720 says the antigen test should be considered.
00:13:04.840 He said,
00:13:05.160 if we're trying to prevent people
00:13:06.180 from entering Canada with active COVID,
00:13:08.220 a rapid test is probably even more accurate
00:13:10.780 than a 72-hour-old PCR test
00:13:13.020 because you're catching people
00:13:14.360 that are infectious
00:13:15.000 at the moment that they enter Canada.
00:13:18.180 And the key with that
00:13:19.220 is that if you land and test positive
00:13:21.720 with a rapid test,
00:13:22.820 you have not been at least
00:13:24.220 denied entry to your country.
00:13:27.180 If I had been,
00:13:28.300 let's say I had been stranded in Austria.
00:13:30.100 I know, Scott Hayward pointed out
00:13:32.800 on Twitter the other day
00:13:33.640 that there are far worse fates imaginable,
00:13:35.520 which I accept.
00:13:36.200 But nevertheless,
00:13:37.120 if I had been stranded in Austria,
00:13:38.560 what the Canadian government
00:13:39.620 is basically doing
00:13:40.880 is telling Austria that,
00:13:43.220 you know what,
00:13:43.660 they're your problem.
00:13:45.020 We don't want to deal with Canadians
00:13:46.740 that might have COVID.
00:13:47.840 They're your problem.
00:13:49.100 And if I couldn't afford
00:13:50.120 to get another test,
00:13:51.100 if I were somewhere
00:13:51.740 where I couldn't have access
00:13:52.840 to another test,
00:13:53.860 I would have been denied the right
00:13:55.220 to enter my own country
00:13:56.420 for no reason whatsoever.
00:13:59.440 And this is coming at a time
00:14:00.840 when the vast majority
00:14:02.460 of international travelers
00:14:03.620 are fully vaccinated,
00:14:04.680 which the government says
00:14:05.820 is the target,
00:14:07.020 is the priority.
00:14:08.100 It's coming,
00:14:08.840 well, if you want to board
00:14:09.600 a plane in Canada,
00:14:11.560 you have to be vaccinated.
00:14:12.880 You have to be fully vaccinated
00:14:14.560 if you want to fly
00:14:15.620 somewhere in Canada.
00:14:16.600 So within the next few weeks,
00:14:18.140 the only people traveling
00:14:19.680 will effectively be
00:14:22.000 fully vaccinated individuals.
00:14:24.540 People that have done
00:14:25.520 what the government said
00:14:26.620 was essential to reopening.
00:14:28.940 People who have done their part.
00:14:30.840 They did what the government
00:14:31.880 asked them to do
00:14:32.600 to flatten the curve,
00:14:34.300 to stop the spread,
00:14:35.520 to plank the curve,
00:14:36.540 to get to COVID zero,
00:14:38.520 whatever the platitudes are
00:14:39.940 that are forming our goal.
00:14:41.260 People who have done that.
00:14:44.240 And now the government is saying,
00:14:45.620 well, you know what,
00:14:46.300 you're not that safe after all.
00:14:49.140 You're not actually as safe
00:14:50.420 as we told you you would be
00:14:51.820 if you were vaccinated.
00:14:53.220 So what we're living in right now
00:14:56.700 is a reopening
00:14:58.220 that isn't a reopening at all.
00:15:00.940 A reopening that comes
00:15:02.080 with all of these terms
00:15:03.100 and conditions
00:15:03.760 that effectively hamper
00:15:05.780 your ability as a Canadian
00:15:07.080 to partake
00:15:07.680 in what is supposed to be
00:15:09.080 this momentous occasion,
00:15:10.460 the triumphant vanquishing
00:15:11.600 of COVID,
00:15:12.720 the border reopening,
00:15:13.840 international travel restrictions
00:15:15.240 being dropped,
00:15:15.980 and so on.
00:15:16.760 And now you are still forced
00:15:18.660 to pay the price
00:15:19.520 because the Canadian government
00:15:21.040 does not know
00:15:22.000 what it's doing.
00:15:22.800 We've got to take
00:15:24.860 a quick break.
00:15:25.560 When we come back,
00:15:26.160 more of The Andrew Lawton Show
00:15:27.380 here on True North.
00:15:28.440 Stay tuned.
00:15:31.520 You're tuned in
00:15:32.700 to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:15:36.840 Welcome back
00:15:37.660 to The Andrew Lawton Show
00:15:39.040 here on True North.
00:15:40.280 Earlier,
00:15:40.820 I spoke about
00:15:41.500 the perils
00:15:42.080 of a false positive COVID test.
00:15:44.960 Well,
00:15:45.160 let's talk about
00:15:45.700 another thing
00:15:46.180 you can test positive for
00:15:47.460 in 2021,
00:15:48.760 climate change.
00:15:50.220 Yes,
00:15:50.600 I don't know
00:15:51.040 what the treatment is.
00:15:51.860 You show up
00:15:52.260 in the ER,
00:15:53.060 the doctor sees
00:15:53.940 you look apparently fine
00:15:55.640 and wonders
00:15:56.120 what's wrong with you,
00:15:57.080 says to the EMT,
00:15:58.080 come on, man,
00:15:58.660 what are you bringing
00:15:59.240 this person
00:15:59.680 into the operating room for?
00:16:01.280 Well,
00:16:01.760 they're suffering,
00:16:02.620 doctor,
00:16:02.920 from a bad case
00:16:03.760 of climate change.
00:16:05.720 Yeah,
00:16:05.980 I don't know
00:16:06.340 what the remedy is.
00:16:07.160 Do you call
00:16:07.520 for a blood transfusion?
00:16:08.960 Do you call
00:16:09.440 for a couple of CCs
00:16:10.940 of something?
00:16:11.640 Or do you just,
00:16:12.620 you know,
00:16:12.820 put on a nice air conditioner
00:16:14.120 and say
00:16:14.660 that's going to
00:16:15.680 sufficiently bring you
00:16:16.600 down to temperature
00:16:17.240 to get rid of
00:16:18.640 the scourge
00:16:19.300 that is bodily
00:16:20.180 climate change?
00:16:20.880 But this is happening.
00:16:22.280 This is happening.
00:16:23.180 The Times columnist says
00:16:24.460 a British Columbia doctor
00:16:26.260 in the emergency room
00:16:27.500 has diagnosed a patient
00:16:29.640 as suffering
00:16:30.680 from climate change.
00:16:33.320 Yes,
00:16:33.700 Dr. Kyle Merritt
00:16:34.600 had a woman
00:16:35.340 in her 70s
00:16:36.080 come into his emergency room
00:16:37.420 at the Kootenay Lake Hospital
00:16:38.700 and decided
00:16:40.160 to diagnose her
00:16:41.380 with climate change.
00:16:42.880 She has diabetes,
00:16:43.920 she has some heart failure,
00:16:45.060 she lives in a trailer
00:16:45.880 with no air conditioning
00:16:47.220 and all of her health problems
00:16:49.160 have been worsened.
00:16:50.420 She's struggling
00:16:51.020 to stay hydrated,
00:16:52.060 the doctor says,
00:16:52.940 and now you're trying
00:16:54.240 to figure out
00:16:54.820 what to do
00:16:55.380 and diagnosing her
00:16:56.360 with climate change
00:16:57.140 is apparently
00:16:57.660 the answer to that.
00:16:58.980 Now,
00:16:59.180 this is just one extreme example
00:17:00.860 and just like COVID,
00:17:02.140 they don't want you
00:17:02.620 to look at all
00:17:03.020 the underlying conditions.
00:17:04.040 They just want you
00:17:04.760 to look at the category
00:17:05.780 in which they've decided
00:17:07.260 to place the person
00:17:08.200 for whatever political purposes.
00:17:10.600 But this is apparently
00:17:11.700 a thing.
00:17:12.260 In the United States,
00:17:13.200 70% of Americans
00:17:14.700 are experiencing
00:17:15.860 climate change,
00:17:17.160 anxiety,
00:17:18.020 and depression
00:17:18.800 according to one survey.
00:17:21.120 So 70%.
00:17:21.960 So that means that
00:17:22.760 more than two out of three
00:17:24.120 people in the United States
00:17:25.260 are dealing with anxiety
00:17:27.020 and depression
00:17:27.540 not because of
00:17:28.640 all the school assignments
00:17:29.980 they have
00:17:30.520 or because of
00:17:31.600 being bogged down
00:17:32.840 by credit card debt
00:17:33.940 or family stress.
00:17:35.300 No,
00:17:35.620 it's climate change.
00:17:36.940 That's what's happening.
00:17:38.140 Now,
00:17:38.400 I get distressed
00:17:39.180 about the changing climate too
00:17:40.560 as we head into
00:17:41.300 the cold weather season.
00:17:42.620 I don't know
00:17:43.400 if that's what's driving
00:17:44.620 the climate change anxiety
00:17:46.180 for all of the people
00:17:47.320 who were surveyed here.
00:17:48.980 But this is what
00:17:49.940 we're being told now.
00:17:51.020 And you can tell
00:17:51.740 that they're kind of
00:17:52.560 laying the groundwork
00:17:53.840 for claiming
00:17:54.820 that global warming,
00:17:56.240 that climate change,
00:17:57.360 is a public health emergency.
00:18:00.400 And I remember
00:18:00.840 a couple of months ago
00:18:01.800 there was this news story
00:18:03.180 during the election
00:18:04.020 about Conservative MP
00:18:05.300 Cheryl Gallant.
00:18:06.180 She said that
00:18:06.800 there are going to be people
00:18:07.900 pushing for a climate change
00:18:09.580 lockdown
00:18:10.100 in the same way
00:18:11.640 as the COVID lockdown.
00:18:13.240 And she was jumped on
00:18:14.360 by the media.
00:18:15.200 Erin O'Toole
00:18:15.720 had forced her to apologize.
00:18:17.460 But it's kind of
00:18:18.880 what we're seeing now.
00:18:20.740 When they start to use terms
00:18:22.360 like emergency
00:18:23.340 and public health crisis
00:18:25.540 and diagnosing people
00:18:27.480 with climate change,
00:18:28.860 then it all of a sudden
00:18:29.960 is going to justify
00:18:31.080 the same measures
00:18:32.280 that over the last two years
00:18:34.000 governments have said
00:18:34.900 are justified
00:18:35.500 because of bona fide
00:18:37.340 public health concerns
00:18:38.460 such as COVID.
00:18:40.240 And I mean,
00:18:41.320 after all,
00:18:41.640 that is a perfectly
00:18:42.480 logical conclusion.
00:18:44.440 Remember earlier on
00:18:45.360 in the pandemic,
00:18:46.020 all of the global warming
00:18:47.220 alarmists were just so giddy
00:18:48.620 that there were no cars
00:18:49.540 on the road,
00:18:50.100 that COVID was the greatest
00:18:51.420 thing to happen
00:18:52.200 to the fight
00:18:53.020 against climate change.
00:18:54.500 And now you look in Glasgow,
00:18:56.140 30,000 people
00:18:56.960 from around the world
00:18:57.760 have flown
00:18:58.260 on their private jets
00:18:59.700 to the Scottish city
00:19:00.800 to tell us all
00:19:01.860 that we should fly less
00:19:03.380 and forgo eating meat
00:19:05.000 while they gorge
00:19:06.280 on luxury dinners
00:19:07.580 and then of course
00:19:08.600 go back to their private jet
00:19:09.660 because they've got
00:19:10.680 to get home after all
00:19:11.620 and it's not like
00:19:12.080 they can fly commercial
00:19:13.020 or even do the
00:19:14.160 Greta Thunberg thing
00:19:15.080 of taking a sailboat.
00:19:16.660 At least she practices
00:19:17.820 what she preaches.
00:19:19.960 No, they're now making
00:19:21.220 this about health
00:19:22.740 and by making it
00:19:24.120 about health
00:19:24.640 all of the things
00:19:25.560 that we have done
00:19:26.440 that have surrendered
00:19:27.800 our civil liberties,
00:19:29.140 surrendered our autonomy
00:19:29.940 all in the name of health
00:19:30.940 are going to be justified
00:19:32.200 for the next greatest
00:19:33.160 public health emergency
00:19:34.240 which is that
00:19:35.880 of climate change.
00:19:37.800 And I mean,
00:19:38.300 a lot of these stories
00:19:39.120 you look at
00:19:39.680 and they seem absurd
00:19:40.740 and hilarious
00:19:41.500 you can laugh
00:19:42.600 and joke about them
00:19:43.440 oh my goodness
00:19:44.040 a doctor diagnosing
00:19:45.200 a woman with climate change
00:19:46.360 well, what a novel concept.
00:19:49.120 But be very aware
00:19:50.080 of how these all
00:19:51.320 intersect with each other
00:19:52.600 and form what is
00:19:53.780 a broader fight here
00:19:55.220 that is taking place
00:19:56.180 right now.
00:19:57.620 And when all the world leaders
00:19:58.860 come out of Glasgow
00:19:59.960 in just a couple of days
00:20:00.980 and say
00:20:01.340 listen, this is what we've done
00:20:02.960 we've come up
00:20:03.540 with an agreement
00:20:04.120 it is going to come
00:20:05.520 at a cost
00:20:06.540 and they're going
00:20:07.780 to say it's not
00:20:08.560 we already see this
00:20:10.060 the World Economic Forum
00:20:11.220 which is the group
00:20:12.260 that hosts the big Davos Summit
00:20:13.960 every now and then
00:20:14.620 talking about your
00:20:15.320 private jets right there
00:20:16.700 has said that
00:20:17.760 global carbon pricing
00:20:19.220 this is what they want
00:20:20.100 it's not enough for Canada
00:20:21.120 to have a carbon tax
00:20:22.580 for the UK
00:20:23.100 to have a carbon tax
00:20:24.260 we need a global
00:20:25.920 price on carbon
00:20:27.240 they say
00:20:28.140 it can reduce emissions
00:20:29.300 and pay for itself.
00:20:31.220 Now, one thing
00:20:33.540 that I was taught
00:20:34.380 by my parents
00:20:35.400 when I was younger
00:20:36.280 was to never trust
00:20:37.820 anyone who wants you
00:20:38.700 to buy something
00:20:39.440 that will apparently
00:20:40.780 pay for itself
00:20:41.660 I remember there was
00:20:42.300 a great scene
00:20:43.020 in I Love Lucy
00:20:43.640 where I Love Lucy
00:20:44.360 wanted to buy a walk-in
00:20:45.360 freezer that would
00:20:46.420 pay for itself
00:20:47.100 and Ricky Ricardo
00:20:48.000 said to Lucy
00:20:48.760 well great
00:20:49.520 why don't you just
00:20:50.140 tell it to come on over
00:20:51.020 after it's finished
00:20:51.860 paying for itself
00:20:52.660 that's kind of my view
00:20:54.100 on the climate change
00:20:55.560 fight here as well
00:20:56.420 if you're telling us
00:20:57.620 that a carbon tax
00:20:58.880 is going to pay for itself
00:20:59.980 then why are all
00:21:01.100 the people that are
00:21:01.880 going to be paying for it
00:21:03.120 saying we don't want it
00:21:04.440 and we can't afford it
00:21:06.020 they admit here
00:21:08.260 that there's going
00:21:08.840 to be a hit to GDP
00:21:09.940 but they say
00:21:10.460 it's just going to be
00:21:11.020 a little nominal
00:21:11.660 we less than 1%
00:21:13.420 hit to GDP
00:21:14.220 but that actually
00:21:15.720 the world economy
00:21:16.540 is shrinking by 18%
00:21:17.960 with global temperatures
00:21:19.600 on the rise
00:21:20.660 but when you start
00:21:22.180 talking about the fact
00:21:23.060 that it's no big deal
00:21:24.060 that the economy
00:21:24.760 is not actually
00:21:25.560 going to be taking a hit
00:21:26.820 you have to look
00:21:27.660 at why that is
00:21:28.560 they're writing off
00:21:30.100 entire sectors
00:21:31.020 and entire industries
00:21:32.020 like shipping
00:21:33.060 like forestry
00:21:34.120 like mining
00:21:34.860 like oil and gas
00:21:36.040 and they're creating
00:21:37.740 a transfer of wealth
00:21:39.460 a transfer of wealth
00:21:41.920 from industrious countries
00:21:43.700 to countries like China
00:21:45.960 who don't care
00:21:47.020 industrious developed countries
00:21:49.540 I should say
00:21:50.200 that are all for
00:21:51.520 the virtue signaling
00:21:52.380 and the platitudes
00:21:53.060 it takes the wealth
00:21:53.980 from them
00:21:54.520 and moves it to places
00:21:56.140 like China
00:21:56.800 that as we've talked
00:21:57.580 about on the show
00:21:58.060 do not care
00:21:59.140 a country that is
00:22:00.600 single-handedly responsible
00:22:01.860 for what 27
00:22:02.840 28% of global emissions
00:22:04.880 is not concerned
00:22:06.060 about doing
00:22:06.860 the Catherine McKenna thing
00:22:08.040 and riding her bicycle
00:22:09.000 from one photo op
00:22:10.080 to the other
00:22:10.920 and going around
00:22:11.980 just as a volunteer
00:22:12.820 because she's so gung-ho
00:22:14.080 at COP26
00:22:15.460 no
00:22:15.820 Xi Jinping
00:22:17.140 didn't even show up
00:22:18.340 to COP26
00:22:19.540 and that pretty much
00:22:21.280 reveals all you need
00:22:22.460 to know about
00:22:22.880 the China approach
00:22:23.660 to these things
00:22:24.220 they're all for saying
00:22:25.280 that they're partners
00:22:25.880 in climate
00:22:26.400 but when push comes to shove
00:22:27.760 we'll put their own
00:22:28.460 country's economies
00:22:29.380 and best interests
00:22:30.940 ahead of these
00:22:32.440 global ambitious targets
00:22:34.100 ooh the global
00:22:34.720 carbon price
00:22:35.500 who's going to be
00:22:36.580 paying for it
00:22:37.300 it's not Chairman Xi
00:22:38.380 the people paying for it
00:22:40.040 are going to be
00:22:40.400 Canadian families
00:22:41.340 Canadian business
00:22:42.560 and the industry
00:22:43.680 on which the
00:22:44.400 Canadian economy relies
00:22:45.800 and when you talk
00:22:47.920 about a global initiative
00:22:49.160 this is being led
00:22:50.160 by countries
00:22:50.820 like the Maldives
00:22:51.860 and countries
00:22:52.900 like Tuvalu
00:22:53.820 and Tonga
00:22:54.740 and Papua New Guinea
00:22:55.620 and look
00:22:56.520 I'm all for these
00:22:57.480 countries that are
00:22:58.120 seeing some changes
00:22:58.900 that they need to adapt to
00:23:00.200 but the reality is
00:23:01.440 Justin Trudeau
00:23:02.120 is not supposed
00:23:02.900 to be representing
00:23:03.780 the Maldives
00:23:04.880 and Tonga
00:23:05.700 and Tuvalu
00:23:06.520 and Vanuatu
00:23:07.280 he's supposed to be
00:23:08.340 representing Canadians
00:23:09.460 this was a point
00:23:10.740 the great Mark Stein
00:23:11.660 made about Boris Johnson
00:23:12.920 he's not the Prime Minister
00:23:13.960 of the Maldives
00:23:14.640 he's the Prime Minister
00:23:15.660 of the United Kingdom
00:23:16.860 so when you start
00:23:19.260 talking about
00:23:19.880 global initiatives
00:23:21.080 it's trying to take
00:23:22.740 every country's
00:23:23.980 dynamic
00:23:24.480 every country's
00:23:25.660 struggle
00:23:26.060 every country's
00:23:27.340 burden
00:23:27.600 and put it all
00:23:28.300 into one neat
00:23:28.840 little box
00:23:29.380 and wrap it up
00:23:29.960 with a bow
00:23:30.400 and make it so
00:23:31.840 that the wealthy
00:23:33.700 have to pay the price
00:23:36.280 for the poorer
00:23:37.480 countries in the world
00:23:38.480 which may sound nice
00:23:40.860 but the idea
00:23:42.440 of wealth transfer
00:23:43.680 needs wealth
00:23:44.780 and if you're trying
00:23:46.160 to penalize
00:23:47.040 the wealth creators
00:23:48.120 you're trying to penalize
00:23:49.240 the countries
00:23:50.220 and the industries
00:23:51.000 and the economies
00:23:51.880 that are doing
00:23:52.480 the heavy lifting here
00:23:53.540 you don't get to do
00:23:54.860 all of these other things
00:23:55.680 remember
00:23:56.040 the agreements
00:23:56.920 they've made
00:23:57.600 in Paris
00:23:58.300 and will make
00:23:58.900 in Glasgow
00:23:59.500 require hundreds
00:24:00.700 of billions of dollars
00:24:01.960 trillions of dollars
00:24:02.940 over time
00:24:03.520 to be transferred
00:24:04.580 from wealthy countries
00:24:05.520 to poorer countries
00:24:06.300 they can't do that
00:24:07.740 if you are effectively
00:24:08.860 criminalizing
00:24:09.860 the sectors
00:24:10.840 that allow these
00:24:11.580 countries to make
00:24:12.440 their money
00:24:12.920 so this idea
00:24:15.000 of a carbon tax
00:24:16.000 that's going to pay
00:24:16.560 for itself
00:24:17.100 well a load of good
00:24:18.120 that's going to do
00:24:18.900 to all the people
00:24:19.580 out of work in Canada
00:24:20.660 just so that the carbon tax
00:24:22.340 can pay for itself
00:24:23.240 in Papua New Guinea
00:24:24.440 we've got to take
00:24:25.860 a quick break
00:24:26.520 when we come back
00:24:27.380 more of the Andrew Lawton Show
00:24:28.840 stay tuned
00:24:29.580 you're tuned in
00:24:32.160 to the Andrew Lawton Show
00:24:33.740 we are back
00:24:37.000 this is the Andrew Lawton Show
00:24:38.600 here on True North
00:24:39.860 I want to talk
00:24:40.400 for a couple of moments
00:24:41.480 about a little bit
00:24:42.540 of a change up
00:24:43.520 in conservative politics
00:24:45.020 this morning
00:24:46.020 Aaron O'Toole
00:24:47.120 announced his shadow cabinet
00:24:48.980 a couple of unsurprising
00:24:50.840 developments there
00:24:51.700 Pierre Polyev
00:24:52.460 is back as the finance critic
00:24:54.220 he was
00:24:55.080 you may remember
00:24:55.720 demoted before the election
00:24:57.240 for reasons that were
00:24:58.260 never quite explained
00:24:59.200 but now that the election's back
00:25:00.860 the conservatives
00:25:01.380 are allowed to have a backbone
00:25:02.520 so Pierre Polyev
00:25:03.840 gets to be
00:25:04.600 the finance critic again
00:25:05.960 you have a couple
00:25:07.100 of other things
00:25:08.040 that are pretty unchanged
00:25:09.500 some unsurprising
00:25:10.620 developments
00:25:11.360 Michael Chong
00:25:12.040 back in foreign affairs
00:25:13.500 new MP
00:25:14.500 Melissa Lansman
00:25:15.600 is the critic
00:25:16.400 for transport
00:25:17.180 curiously
00:25:18.400 Marilyn Gladue
00:25:19.500 is not in shadow cabinet
00:25:21.220 now
00:25:21.440 Marilyn Gladue
00:25:22.640 I spoke to her on the show
00:25:23.660 when she was seeking
00:25:24.420 the leadership
00:25:25.120 of the conservative party
00:25:26.840 she's always been
00:25:27.580 a well-liked
00:25:28.500 and popular
00:25:29.060 and very accomplished
00:25:30.580 member of the
00:25:31.500 conservative caucus
00:25:32.380 she's been in shadow cabinet
00:25:34.260 in the past
00:25:34.840 she's not there
00:25:35.960 I have no inside knowledge
00:25:38.380 about why she
00:25:39.460 is not in shadow cabinet
00:25:41.420 maybe she was a contender
00:25:42.620 maybe she wasn't
00:25:43.660 but I can't help
00:25:44.900 but wonder
00:25:45.380 if a big part of it
00:25:46.700 is the fact
00:25:47.700 that she's been pushing
00:25:48.720 for MPs
00:25:49.940 in the conservative caucus
00:25:51.140 to stand up
00:25:52.280 for civil liberties
00:25:53.500 she's the founder
00:25:54.960 of the civil liberties caucus
00:25:56.620 a group of MPs
00:25:57.720 a list of which
00:25:58.700 we've not seen
00:25:59.460 who have gotten together
00:26:00.320 to say
00:26:00.800 that members of parliament
00:26:02.440 need to be standing up
00:26:03.520 for their constituents
00:26:04.280 who are very concerned
00:26:05.800 about vaccine mandates
00:26:07.460 who are very concerned
00:26:08.360 about these policies
00:26:09.740 that are being pushed
00:26:10.580 by all levels of government
00:26:11.840 that try to segregate society
00:26:13.840 and are very much
00:26:15.140 costing people
00:26:16.020 their jobs
00:26:16.720 and their livelihoods
00:26:19.020 there have been
00:26:19.540 a few MPs
00:26:20.500 after the election
00:26:21.440 not the least of which
00:26:22.680 is Marilyn Gladju
00:26:23.620 also Leslyn Lewis
00:26:25.100 Dean Allison
00:26:25.980 conservative MPs
00:26:27.160 that have spoken out
00:26:28.060 against in some cases
00:26:29.840 the unanimity
00:26:30.780 of the public health narrative
00:26:32.100 that you're not allowed
00:26:33.320 to question
00:26:34.000 Leslyn Lewis
00:26:35.060 has spoken about
00:26:36.000 vaccinating children
00:26:36.980 and whether that's
00:26:37.720 the best approach
00:26:38.480 Dean Allison
00:26:39.500 has spoken about
00:26:40.300 a diversity
00:26:40.900 in the medical community
00:26:41.980 that's not being reflected
00:26:43.180 in a lot of the
00:26:44.460 public health guidance
00:26:45.340 we're getting
00:26:45.720 from the federal government
00:26:46.760 none of these
00:26:47.820 should be contentious
00:26:49.180 or controversial points
00:26:50.600 but the media
00:26:51.460 was of course
00:26:52.080 asking Aaron O'Toole
00:26:53.020 about them
00:26:53.560 and what does he do
00:26:54.740 he says
00:26:55.160 oh yeah yeah
00:26:55.700 they're all wrong
00:26:56.320 and they should shut up
00:26:57.180 just take a watch
00:26:58.060 as I've said
00:26:59.460 there's a big difference
00:27:01.100 between advocating
00:27:01.860 for your constituents
00:27:02.900 who may need
00:27:04.040 reasonable accommodation
00:27:04.920 and creating confusion
00:27:06.500 about public health measures
00:27:08.440 it's a great example
00:27:09.680 of why members of parliament
00:27:11.060 of all stripes
00:27:12.200 should let the professionals
00:27:14.400 let the public health officials
00:27:15.900 let the physicians
00:27:17.220 answer questions
00:27:18.740 about efficacy of vaccines
00:27:20.700 or provincial programs
00:27:22.020 on vaccination
00:27:22.780 as I just said
00:27:23.740 it's important
00:27:24.960 for members of parliament
00:27:25.900 to advocate
00:27:26.900 for their
00:27:27.380 their constituents
00:27:29.500 who may be losing a job
00:27:31.140 or may need
00:27:31.780 reasonable accommodation
00:27:33.060 we do that all the time
00:27:34.380 on a range of issues
00:27:35.580 but it's very different
00:27:37.420 to cause confusion
00:27:39.340 with respect
00:27:39.900 to the health and well-being
00:27:40.700 of Canadians
00:27:41.240 Ms. Gladew's interview
00:27:42.280 did that yesterday
00:27:43.080 and it's not appropriate
00:27:44.840 at a time
00:27:45.600 we should be answering
00:27:46.420 questions about
00:27:47.320 vaccine hesitancy
00:27:48.840 not creating new questions
00:27:50.500 now this is by the way
00:27:51.960 coming from the same Aaron O'Toole
00:27:53.500 who has previously
00:27:55.080 at a couple of points
00:27:55.920 spoken about
00:27:56.540 the importance of choice
00:27:58.260 in vaccination
00:27:59.060 saying it is a personal choice
00:28:00.760 for people
00:28:01.240 but now he's saying
00:28:02.660 his caucus members
00:28:03.680 who by the way
00:28:04.760 he said also previously
00:28:06.040 he supports conscience rights for
00:28:07.760 now well
00:28:09.000 you know what
00:28:09.440 they don't actually
00:28:10.120 get to speak their minds
00:28:11.000 on this
00:28:11.380 and now it's not appropriate
00:28:12.820 for them to stand up
00:28:13.780 for civil liberties
00:28:14.520 it's not appropriate
00:28:15.400 for them to talk about
00:28:16.880 some of the experts
00:28:17.660 who are speaking out
00:28:18.500 whose voices are being silenced
00:28:20.220 that's all not appropriate
00:28:21.540 you only get to say
00:28:23.420 what the leader's office
00:28:24.520 says you get to say
00:28:25.700 that's the way
00:28:26.760 the conservative party
00:28:27.700 is ready to kick off
00:28:29.220 this session of parliament
00:28:30.860 and if you want to see
00:28:32.100 how dangerous
00:28:33.040 this process can be
00:28:34.280 just take a look
00:28:35.120 at what's happening
00:28:35.740 to Bert Chen
00:28:36.640 now Bert Chen
00:28:37.520 is the national council member
00:28:39.640 who spoke out
00:28:40.440 very quick after the election
00:28:42.180 against Aaron O'Toole's leadership
00:28:43.740 and started that petition
00:28:45.540 that we covered here
00:28:46.420 on the Andrew Lawton show
00:28:47.620 well Bert Chen
00:28:48.800 was suspended
00:28:49.640 from national council
00:28:50.840 and just look at
00:28:52.160 what's happening
00:28:52.740 to him now
00:28:53.480 he could be ordered
00:28:55.160 to turn over emails
00:28:57.000 and phone records
00:28:58.880 emails and phone records
00:29:01.460 Bert Chen
00:29:01.960 has been asked
00:29:02.860 to turn over
00:29:03.640 any records
00:29:04.460 connected to his push
00:29:05.820 to oust O'Toole
00:29:06.620 but but why
00:29:07.800 like for what reason
00:29:09.080 under what authority
00:29:11.280 now his lawyer
00:29:13.320 Scott Hamilton
00:29:14.180 has said that this is
00:29:15.080 an unprecedented campaign
00:29:16.900 to thwart dissenting views
00:29:18.320 and oust those party members
00:29:20.100 who disagree
00:29:20.640 with the leadership
00:29:21.480 of the party
00:29:22.360 his 60-day suspension
00:29:24.200 will come up
00:29:25.160 at some point
00:29:25.720 I think in the next month
00:29:26.580 or so
00:29:27.000 but the reality is
00:29:28.460 there's now
00:29:29.060 a witch hunt underway
00:29:30.320 to unearth anyone
00:29:32.760 who may have been
00:29:33.700 talking to him
00:29:34.520 who may be sympathetic
00:29:35.540 to him
00:29:36.620 in criticizing
00:29:38.300 Aaron O'Toole's leadership
00:29:39.600 so this idea
00:29:41.740 of cracking the whip
00:29:42.780 on your caucus members
00:29:44.040 cracking your whip
00:29:44.860 on your national councillors
00:29:46.160 effectively
00:29:46.920 this is going to turn
00:29:48.000 into cracking the whip
00:29:48.980 on conservative members
00:29:50.460 as well
00:29:50.840 because a lot of them
00:29:51.540 are going to want to speak out
00:29:52.400 at the upcoming conventions
00:29:53.640 and may well be denied
00:29:55.500 the right to do that
00:29:56.660 is this the way
00:29:58.960 you build a winning coalition
00:30:00.660 and if so
00:30:02.380 you're winning at what cost
00:30:03.960 you know
00:30:05.220 I know I quoted
00:30:05.800 Mark Stein earlier
00:30:06.660 but I'll quote another
00:30:07.400 one of his go-to lines here
00:30:08.700 it's a lot easier
00:30:09.780 for the base
00:30:10.400 to get themselves
00:30:11.080 a new leader
00:30:11.680 than for the leader
00:30:12.400 to get themselves
00:30:13.560 a new base
00:30:14.400 and that is a
00:30:16.240 fundamental truth
00:30:17.220 that you can't avoid
00:30:17.880 here right now
00:30:18.500 if Aaron O'Toole decides
00:30:19.780 to go to war
00:30:20.440 against his own party
00:30:21.560 and people whose opinions
00:30:23.380 and whose reputations
00:30:24.580 carry a lot of weight
00:30:25.480 in that party
00:30:26.140 he's going to very quickly
00:30:27.360 find himself
00:30:28.120 a leader
00:30:28.940 without an army
00:30:30.100 we have to end things there
00:30:32.340 my thanks to all of you
00:30:33.500 for tuning in
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