Juno News - Canada's PCR testing is a sham

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.

00:00:06.660 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.

00:00:12.840 Coming up, Canada's disastrous and costly PCR testing requirement,

00:00:17.400 Aaron O'Toole's cracking the whip on Conservative caucus members,

00:00:20.440 and his climate change, the new public health crisis.

00:00:24.880 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.

00:00:30.900 Hello and welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.

00:00:35.280 This is the Andrew Lawton Show on True North, Tuesday, November 9th, 2021.

00:00:40.320 It is great to have you aboard the program here.

00:00:43.600 I was gone last week on a vacation.

00:00:46.840 I'm glad to be back, although I very narrowly wasn't back.

00:00:51.740 And this actually is a personal anecdote, but also one that ties in very well

00:00:56.420 with a timely story I wanted to get into,

00:00:58.360 and that is Canada's punitive, distressing, and costly PCR test requirement

00:01:04.500 for people to enter the country, including Canadians who have been traveling abroad,

00:01:09.000 something that, believe it or not, is legal,

00:01:12.000 and want to come back home for reasons that become less and less clear with each passing day.

00:01:17.000 So just the primer on this is that if you leave the country and want to come in, 0.80

00:01:21.740 whether you are a Canadian citizen, resident,

00:01:24.300 or whether you are just someone visiting Canada,

00:01:26.900 you've got to go through what is called a molecular test.

00:01:30.020 And for the most part, this is a PCR test,

00:01:32.920 although there are a couple of others that are eligible.

00:01:35.560 Rapid tests will not suffice.

00:01:37.340 So if you do a rapid test, you can't come to Canada.

00:01:40.100 And no matter where you are in the world,

00:01:41.740 you've got to procure one of these and get results back within 72 hours,

00:01:45.880 or you will not be allowed to board a flight to Canada.

00:01:49.040 So my wife and I last week were in Vienna, Austria,

00:01:52.840 and we had purchased these testing kits that were actually just launched a couple of weeks ago

00:01:57.880 by Air Canada and Switch Health, and they're called RT Lamp Tests.

00:02:02.720 The government takes them.

00:02:03.780 You do them yourself, but you have to be on a video call with some Switch Health employee

00:02:08.160 to make sure that you've shoved the swab up your nose sufficiently

00:02:12.140 and haven't been monkeying around with the QR code or anything like that.

00:02:15.820 Anyway, so we bought a couple of these tests, $150 each,

00:02:19.740 brought them overseas with us so that we wouldn't have to deal with the hassle

00:02:22.780 of trying to hunt down a PCR test in some foreign land

00:02:26.660 and waste half a day of vacation doing it and so on and so forth.

00:02:30.080 So we do this.

00:02:30.900 We're trying to do the right thing, trying to make things easier for ourselves.

00:02:34.760 Did not work out that way at all.

00:02:37.380 So we're in our hotel room.

00:02:38.940 We're on the Skype call with the nurse.

00:02:40.380 We're doing this.

00:02:41.060 I shoved the swab up.

00:02:42.080 And you have to stick it in this vial, stir it around.

00:02:46.300 And then you stick the vial in this machine and put the batteries in.

00:02:49.380 And the machine will do its business for, I think, like 25, 30 minutes or so.

00:02:53.740 And then it tell you positive or negative.

00:02:56.720 So I'm doing this purely as a formality.

00:02:59.660 And 20 minutes later or so, the machine lights up.

00:03:03.400 The test is done.

00:03:04.540 Positive.

00:03:05.560 So according to the Switch Health RT lamp, I have COVID or had as at least last week

00:03:12.000 when I was doing this.

00:03:12.760 And my wife, hers is still processing.

00:03:15.440 Then five minutes later, 10 minutes later, whatever it is, hers lights up negative.

00:03:19.400 So the two of us who have been, you know, like sitting beside each other doing the test,

00:03:23.240 we've been inseparable for the trip.

00:03:24.840 We were together every day, all day for the days leading up to the trip.

00:03:28.620 Somehow I've got COVID and she does not according to the test.

00:03:33.260 Now felt completely fine.

00:03:34.700 I wasn't worried about actually having COVID.

00:03:37.500 I was worried about testing positive because, well, as much as I enjoyed Vienna and would

00:03:42.280 have liked staying there perhaps for a longer period of time at some point, I didn't want

00:03:46.040 to do it in like some Austrian COVID gulag detention center.

00:03:50.900 I wanted to come home on my terms or stay there on my terms, not end up in Austrian quarantine.

00:03:56.700 So that was my concern with this.

00:03:58.440 So I'm like, this is nonsense.

00:03:59.840 This is awful.

00:04:00.400 So thankfully, Austria is a place that has a lot of access to COVID testing.

00:04:05.640 It's just something the country has made a point of trying to have available for people.

00:04:10.140 My wife was able to pick up a few rapid tests from a pharmacy across the street. 0.91

00:04:14.700 I did one rapid test.

00:04:16.080 It was negative.

00:04:17.700 Slept on it.

00:04:18.540 Did another one in the morning.

00:04:19.920 It was negative.

00:04:20.780 At this point, I'm fairly optimistic that I had gotten a false positive on the first test.

00:04:26.900 So I went to procure a lab test, like a proper test.

00:04:31.060 I did that.

00:04:31.780 Got the other guy to put the swab up my nose and in the back of my throat.

00:04:34.680 And that was it, thankfully.

00:04:36.420 And that one came back a couple hours later as negative.

00:04:39.300 So I was able to take that test, get on the plane, come home.

00:04:42.840 And that is where I am now, thankfully, back on Canadian soil.

00:04:47.100 So all of this to say, I'm pretty good at rolling with the punches.

00:04:51.780 I'm pretty good at being spontaneous if I need to be.

00:04:56.400 But I could see a lot of people, a lot of travelers that have tried to do everything right,

00:05:00.460 being in a situation here where they're just downright terrified

00:05:02.720 because they think they're going to be stranded in another country,

00:05:05.700 despite not actually being sick.

00:05:08.160 And remember, the reason that these take-home do-it-yourself tests are desirable

00:05:13.100 is because in some parts of the world, you can't access a PCR test

00:05:16.460 or you can't access one that can guarantee you results back within 72 hours.

00:05:20.960 So the idea of doing one yourself is pretty appealing to a lot of people.

00:05:24.720 So I can imagine just how terrifying this would be for someone,

00:05:28.500 especially if it's the first time they've traveled internationally in two years,

00:05:32.200 which is probable for a lot of people.

00:05:34.280 This was my first time overseas since I was covering some conference in 2019.

00:05:39.620 So that's where we were.

00:05:41.780 But the fascinating thing about this is that I was not sick.

00:05:46.120 I had, even if I had had COVID, managed to go weeks without giving it to my wife

00:05:50.800 and having no symptoms.

00:05:52.340 And the reality is that I was not posing a threat to anyone.

00:05:56.000 But the government's PCR testing requirement almost stranded me abroad.

00:06:01.320 Now, some of you listening may think,

00:06:04.160 yeah, well, that's actually better for Canada if you're stranded abroad, Andrew.

00:06:07.000 It's not just about me.

00:06:07.900 It's about everyone.

00:06:09.340 It's about all of you.

00:06:10.300 This week, the United States finally reopened its land border to Canadians,

00:06:14.820 which means if you are a Canadian,

00:06:16.640 especially one of them who lives in the border community,

00:06:19.000 like Windsor, Ontario, Sarnia, Abbotsford, BC,

00:06:22.280 and this is just part of your life,

00:06:24.580 just going back and forth across the border,

00:06:26.560 getting cheap groceries in the U.S.,

00:06:28.500 going to American restaurants,

00:06:30.400 you can't come back unless you can prove to the government

00:06:33.860 that you've had one of these molecular tests,

00:06:36.240 even if you just go over for an hour.

00:06:38.180 You go over to the U.S., 0.97

00:06:39.200 you have lunch at Olive Garden,

00:06:40.480 you come back home,

00:06:41.520 you've got to have a PCR test

00:06:43.160 or you're going to get fined $5,000,

00:06:46.180 which defeats any savings you might pick up

00:06:48.440 by getting all you can eat bread and salad

00:06:50.100 at American Olive Garden.

00:06:51.820 Can you tell I'm in Ontario,

00:06:53.120 which got rid of Olive Garden several years ago? 0.81

00:06:55.440 Anyway, Olive Garden is not the point of this.

00:06:57.520 The point is that this is a restriction on mobility

00:07:00.580 that has nothing to do with science,

00:07:02.860 it has nothing to do with public health,

00:07:04.500 and the government knows this.

00:07:06.780 The government absolutely knows this,

00:07:08.720 and I'll tell you how they know it.

00:07:10.780 Because the whole point of the test

00:07:12.280 is that it has to be done less than 72 hours

00:07:14.740 before your return if you are arriving by land

00:07:18.140 or when you board the flight if you're coming in by air.

00:07:21.280 Less than 72 hours.

00:07:23.540 If you're going to the U.S.

00:07:25.460 and coming back in an afternoon, say,

00:07:27.740 you can use a test that you got in Canada

00:07:31.700 three days before you left.

00:07:34.160 I could get a test at 1 p.m. on a Tuesday,

00:07:37.820 go to the U.S. at 9 a.m. on a Friday,

00:07:42.000 come back at noon on a Friday,

00:07:43.860 and show that test that I got in Canada three days prior,

00:07:47.240 and that will admit me into the country.

00:07:50.640 Now, if I do this,

00:07:52.820 even if I magically picked up COVID in the United States

00:07:56.300 on that Friday and the couple of hours there,

00:07:58.500 this test is not detecting it.

00:08:01.620 So the testing has nothing to do with the actual travel risk.

00:08:05.960 The original testing requirement was to make sure

00:08:08.220 that if you were coming from Wuhan

00:08:09.980 and you had been in Wuhan for six weeks,

00:08:11.960 you weren't bringing in some new strain.

00:08:14.000 What are we up to?

00:08:14.700 The Kappa Alpha Theta variant or whatever.

00:08:17.160 So that was the point of it.

00:08:19.300 It wasn't meant to be if you're going away

00:08:21.560 for just a couple of days for a couple of hours

00:08:23.700 that this test would pick it up magically

00:08:26.340 and be the deal breaker in you getting home.

00:08:29.960 That was never meant to be the point of it.

00:08:33.040 So even if you accept at face value

00:08:35.400 that these tests are effective,

00:08:37.420 that these tests work,

00:08:38.900 they aren't working for the stated purpose.

00:08:41.960 But as my case demonstrates,

00:08:43.460 these tests are not,

00:08:44.580 as numerous people have been warning for two years now,

00:08:48.580 as much of a silver bullet in detection

00:08:52.200 as so many of their proponents like to be.

00:08:54.640 I got a false positive.

00:08:55.580 I think it's highly unlikely

00:08:57.500 it could have been a genuine positive

00:08:59.460 because of how soon after I got the negatives

00:09:02.140 and the subsequent negative

00:09:03.280 and the subsequent negative after that.

00:09:05.380 So it was a false positive.

00:09:06.900 False positives are a genuine risk.

00:09:09.980 Even the instruction manuals

00:09:11.820 that come with these tests

00:09:12.760 show that false positives are a risk.

00:09:15.600 They say they're rare, of course,

00:09:17.700 but this is a very high stakes game

00:09:20.240 for Canadians who want to travel abroad

00:09:22.140 when it is not producing any public health benefit.

00:09:26.900 And in my case, look,

00:09:28.460 these tests that we brought away were $150 each.

00:09:31.520 The test I had to get in Austria

00:09:33.180 to get myself back in,

00:09:35.000 the one that came back negative,

00:09:36.400 was 89 euros,

00:09:37.780 which was actually a fairly inexpensive test

00:09:40.420 in some parts, even in the US.

00:09:42.720 Some of these tests,

00:09:43.700 the ones that will guarantee you results

00:09:45.620 within a certain timeframe,

00:09:47.060 cost $250 American.

00:09:49.300 So you take a family of four

00:09:51.340 over to Bellingham, Washington

00:09:53.360 or Port Huron, Michigan

00:09:55.140 to come back, 1,000 bucks US.

00:09:58.100 Most families cannot afford that.

00:10:01.040 So as always,

00:10:01.900 these restrictions that we see governments impose

00:10:04.020 only seem to target one specific demographic.

00:10:07.820 When the land border closed,

00:10:09.100 the rich could ship their cars over

00:10:10.720 and take a helicopter.

00:10:12.020 The rich could always fly into the US,

00:10:14.020 fly back.

00:10:14.680 The rich could afford these homes

00:10:16.040 in which they could quarantine.

00:10:17.100 It's the lower income people 1.00

00:10:19.160 that have no recourse

00:10:21.620 against these punitive measures

00:10:22.940 that even today are being punished

00:10:24.640 and prevented from traveling,

00:10:26.340 even though the reopening has happened

00:10:28.680 because they can't afford

00:10:30.620 this testing requirement.

00:10:32.100 And the government's plan with this,

00:10:34.520 if it wasn't abundantly clear,

00:10:36.100 is not to prevent the importation of COVID.

00:10:39.560 It's to reduce travel.

00:10:41.300 It's to reduce mobility.

00:10:43.180 They want to make it so costly

00:10:45.100 and so cumbersome to travel

00:10:46.580 that most people can't do it

00:10:48.600 or think it's not worth the hassle

00:10:50.140 and will decide not to.

00:10:52.180 But the government can claim,

00:10:53.160 oh, you have a right to.

00:10:54.300 Sure, you're allowed to.

00:10:56.540 But they've taken it away.

00:10:58.040 It really isn't a legitimate choice

00:10:59.820 in the same way that a vaccine mandate

00:11:02.100 to travel by air is not a legitimate choice

00:11:04.560 because you're being forced to

00:11:06.340 if you want to partake in the certain benefits

00:11:08.880 or what are supposed to be benefits

00:11:10.300 of living in a free society.

00:11:13.400 Now, I'm not alone in this, by the way.

00:11:15.200 Most people are saying

00:11:16.360 this testing requirement

00:11:17.540 does not need to exist.

00:11:19.800 Leaders in American border communities

00:11:21.580 have been saying for quite some time,

00:11:23.140 American business owners

00:11:24.260 have been saying for quite some time

00:11:25.900 they think this testing requirement

00:11:27.340 is very punitive.

00:11:28.980 It does not help public health.

00:11:30.320 And more importantly,

00:11:31.400 it hurts these border communities

00:11:32.800 that have been longing for the reopening

00:11:35.220 that is supposed to be taking place this week.

00:11:37.540 But even the public health experts,

00:11:40.180 the public health experts

00:11:41.340 on whom the government says it relies

00:11:43.400 to make determinations about public policy

00:11:46.000 are saying this is absolutely not required.

00:11:49.500 Now, all the federal government is saying

00:11:51.160 is that they'll continue to evaluate the measures

00:11:53.340 and make necessary adjustments as required.

00:11:56.080 That's what a spokesperson

00:11:56.820 for the new health minister,

00:11:58.860 Jean-Yves Duclos, has said to Global News,

00:12:01.420 which is basically the answer

00:12:03.500 that they give to anything now

00:12:04.680 so that they don't end up stepping in it

00:12:06.160 like when Patty Hajdu was calling 0.92

00:12:07.600 border closures racist

00:12:09.020 like three minutes before they closed the border.

00:12:11.060 They don't want to say anything decisively.

00:12:12.940 So it's just, well, we continue to monitor

00:12:14.940 and look and we're exploring and all that jazz.

00:12:17.860 But let's look at what the actual public health experts

00:12:20.600 are saying here.

00:12:21.800 Dr. Amesh Adalja,

00:12:23.420 who is a senior scholar

00:12:24.640 at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security,

00:12:26.520 says, wouldn't it make more sense

00:12:27.780 to have a rapid test done at the border?

00:12:30.900 You can get one in 50 minutes or even faster

00:12:33.000 rather than a 72-hour-old PCR test

00:12:35.940 that's sometimes logistically difficult

00:12:37.680 and expensive to get.

00:12:40.060 Fatima Kakar,

00:12:41.000 who's a pediatric infectious disease specialist

00:12:43.260 in Montreal, says,

00:12:44.660 yeah, the PCR is the gold standard,

00:12:46.300 but if we're talking about a population

00:12:47.740 that's overwhelmingly vaccinated,

00:12:49.620 is it okay to take the risk

00:12:51.120 of just using rapid tests?

00:12:52.660 And she says, yeah,

00:12:53.500 it's completely reasonable

00:12:54.740 to ask that question.

00:12:57.000 Dr. Zane Chagla,

00:12:58.540 an infectious diseases physician

00:12:59.980 at St. Joseph's Healthcare in Hamilton,

00:13:01.720 says the antigen test should be considered.

00:13:04.840 He said,

00:13:05.160 if we're trying to prevent people

00:13:06.180 from entering Canada with active COVID,

00:13:08.220 a rapid test is probably even more accurate

00:13:10.780 than a 72-hour-old PCR test

00:13:13.020 because you're catching people

00:13:14.360 that are infectious

00:13:15.000 at the moment that they enter Canada.

00:13:18.180 And the key with that

00:13:19.220 is that if you land and test positive

00:13:21.720 with a rapid test,

00:13:22.820 you have not been at least

00:13:24.220 denied entry to your country.

00:13:27.180 If I had been,

00:13:28.300 let's say I had been stranded in Austria.

00:13:30.100 I know, Scott Hayward pointed out

00:13:32.800 on Twitter the other day

00:13:33.640 that there are far worse fates imaginable,

00:13:35.520 which I accept.

00:13:36.200 But nevertheless,

00:13:37.120 if I had been stranded in Austria,

00:13:38.560 what the Canadian government

00:13:39.620 is basically doing

00:13:40.880 is telling Austria that,

00:13:43.220 you know what,

00:13:43.660 they're your problem.

00:13:45.020 We don't want to deal with Canadians 1.00

00:13:46.740 that might have COVID.

00:13:47.840 They're your problem.

00:13:49.100 And if I couldn't afford

00:13:50.120 to get another test,

00:13:51.100 if I were somewhere

00:13:51.740 where I couldn't have access

00:13:52.840 to another test,

00:13:53.860 I would have been denied the right

00:13:55.220 to enter my own country

00:13:56.420 for no reason whatsoever.

00:13:59.440 And this is coming at a time

00:14:00.840 when the vast majority

00:14:02.460 of international travelers

00:14:03.620 are fully vaccinated,

00:14:04.680 which the government says

00:14:05.820 is the target,

00:14:07.020 is the priority.

00:14:08.100 It's coming,

00:14:08.840 well, if you want to board

00:14:09.600 a plane in Canada,

00:14:11.560 you have to be vaccinated.

00:14:12.880 You have to be fully vaccinated

00:14:14.560 if you want to fly

00:14:15.620 somewhere in Canada.

00:14:16.600 So within the next few weeks,

00:14:18.140 the only people traveling

00:14:19.680 will effectively be

00:14:22.000 fully vaccinated individuals.

00:14:24.540 People that have done

00:14:25.520 what the government said

00:14:26.620 was essential to reopening.

00:14:28.940 People who have done their part.

00:14:30.840 They did what the government

00:14:31.880 asked them to do

00:14:32.600 to flatten the curve,

00:14:34.300 to stop the spread,

00:14:35.520 to plank the curve,

00:14:36.540 to get to COVID zero,

00:14:38.520 whatever the platitudes are

00:14:39.940 that are forming our goal.

00:14:41.260 People who have done that.

00:14:44.240 And now the government is saying,

00:14:45.620 well, you know what,

00:14:46.300 you're not that safe after all.

00:14:49.140 You're not actually as safe

00:14:50.420 as we told you you would be

00:14:51.820 if you were vaccinated.

00:14:53.220 So what we're living in right now

00:14:56.700 is a reopening

00:14:58.220 that isn't a reopening at all.

00:15:00.940 A reopening that comes

00:15:02.080 with all of these terms

00:15:03.100 and conditions

00:15:03.760 that effectively hamper

00:15:05.780 your ability as a Canadian

00:15:07.080 to partake

00:15:07.680 in what is supposed to be

00:15:09.080 this momentous occasion,

00:15:10.460 the triumphant vanquishing

00:15:11.600 of COVID,

00:15:12.720 the border reopening,

00:15:13.840 international travel restrictions

00:15:15.240 being dropped,

00:15:15.980 and so on.

00:15:16.760 And now you are still forced

00:15:18.660 to pay the price

00:15:19.520 because the Canadian government

00:15:21.040 does not know

00:15:22.000 what it's doing.

00:15:22.800 We've got to take

00:15:24.860 a quick break.

00:15:25.560 When we come back,

00:15:26.160 more of The Andrew Lawton Show

00:15:27.380 here on True North.

00:15:28.440 Stay tuned.

00:15:31.520 You're tuned in

00:15:32.700 to The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:15:36.840 Welcome back

00:15:37.660 to The Andrew Lawton Show

00:15:39.040 here on True North.

00:15:40.280 Earlier,

00:15:40.820 I spoke about

00:15:41.500 the perils

00:15:42.080 of a false positive COVID test.

00:15:44.960 Well,

00:15:45.160 let's talk about

00:15:45.700 another thing

00:15:46.180 you can test positive for

00:15:47.460 in 2021,

00:15:48.760 climate change.

00:15:50.220 Yes,

00:15:50.600 I don't know

00:15:51.040 what the treatment is.

00:15:51.860 You show up

00:15:52.260 in the ER,

00:15:53.060 the doctor sees

00:15:53.940 you look apparently fine

00:15:55.640 and wonders

00:15:56.120 what's wrong with you, 0.67

00:15:57.080 says to the EMT,

00:15:58.080 come on, man,

00:15:58.660 what are you bringing

00:15:59.240 this person

00:15:59.680 into the operating room for?

00:16:01.280 Well,

00:16:01.760 they're suffering,

00:16:02.620 doctor,

00:16:02.920 from a bad case

00:16:03.760 of climate change.

00:16:05.720 Yeah,

00:16:05.980 I don't know

00:16:06.340 what the remedy is.

00:16:07.160 Do you call

00:16:07.520 for a blood transfusion?

00:16:08.960 Do you call

00:16:09.440 for a couple of CCs

00:16:10.940 of something?

00:16:11.640 Or do you just,

00:16:12.620 you know,

00:16:12.820 put on a nice air conditioner

00:16:14.120 and say

00:16:14.660 that's going to

00:16:15.680 sufficiently bring you

00:16:16.600 down to temperature

00:16:17.240 to get rid of

00:16:18.640 the scourge

00:16:19.300 that is bodily

00:16:20.180 climate change?

00:16:20.880 But this is happening.

00:16:22.280 This is happening.

00:16:23.180 The Times columnist says

00:16:24.460 a British Columbia doctor

00:16:26.260 in the emergency room

00:16:27.500 has diagnosed a patient

00:16:29.640 as suffering

00:16:30.680 from climate change.

00:16:33.320 Yes,

00:16:33.700 Dr. Kyle Merritt

00:16:34.600 had a woman

00:16:35.340 in her 70s

00:16:36.080 come into his emergency room

00:16:37.420 at the Kootenay Lake Hospital

00:16:38.700 and decided

00:16:40.160 to diagnose her

00:16:41.380 with climate change.

00:16:42.880 She has diabetes,

00:16:43.920 she has some heart failure,

00:16:45.060 she lives in a trailer

00:16:45.880 with no air conditioning

00:16:47.220 and all of her health problems

00:16:49.160 have been worsened.

00:16:50.420 She's struggling

00:16:51.020 to stay hydrated,

00:16:52.060 the doctor says,

00:16:52.940 and now you're trying

00:16:54.240 to figure out

00:16:54.820 what to do

00:16:55.380 and diagnosing her

00:16:56.360 with climate change

00:16:57.140 is apparently

00:16:57.660 the answer to that.

00:16:58.980 Now,

00:16:59.180 this is just one extreme example

00:17:00.860 and just like COVID,

00:17:02.140 they don't want you

00:17:02.620 to look at all

00:17:03.020 the underlying conditions.

00:17:04.040 They just want you

00:17:04.760 to look at the category

00:17:05.780 in which they've decided

00:17:07.260 to place the person

00:17:08.200 for whatever political purposes.

00:17:10.600 But this is apparently

00:17:11.700 a thing.

00:17:12.260 In the United States,

00:17:13.200 70% of Americans

00:17:14.700 are experiencing

00:17:15.860 climate change,

00:17:17.160 anxiety,

00:17:18.020 and depression

00:17:18.800 according to one survey.

00:17:21.120 So 70%.

00:17:21.960 So that means that

00:17:22.760 more than two out of three

00:17:24.120 people in the United States

00:17:25.260 are dealing with anxiety

00:17:27.020 and depression

00:17:27.540 not because of

00:17:28.640 all the school assignments

00:17:29.980 they have

00:17:30.520 or because of

00:17:31.600 being bogged down

00:17:32.840 by credit card debt

00:17:33.940 or family stress.

00:17:35.300 No,

00:17:35.620 it's climate change.

00:17:36.940 That's what's happening.

00:17:38.140 Now,

00:17:38.400 I get distressed

00:17:39.180 about the changing climate too

00:17:40.560 as we head into

00:17:41.300 the cold weather season.

00:17:42.620 I don't know

00:17:43.400 if that's what's driving

00:17:44.620 the climate change anxiety

00:17:46.180 for all of the people

00:17:47.320 who were surveyed here.

00:17:48.980 But this is what

00:17:49.940 we're being told now.

00:17:51.020 And you can tell

00:17:51.740 that they're kind of

00:17:52.560 laying the groundwork

00:17:53.840 for claiming

00:17:54.820 that global warming,

00:17:56.240 that climate change,

00:17:57.360 is a public health emergency.

00:18:00.400 And I remember

00:18:00.840 a couple of months ago

00:18:01.800 there was this news story

00:18:03.180 during the election

00:18:04.020 about Conservative MP

00:18:05.300 Cheryl Gallant.

00:18:06.180 She said that

00:18:06.800 there are going to be people

00:18:07.900 pushing for a climate change

00:18:09.580 lockdown

00:18:10.100 in the same way

00:18:11.640 as the COVID lockdown.

00:18:13.240 And she was jumped on

00:18:14.360 by the media.

00:18:15.200 Erin O'Toole

00:18:15.720 had forced her to apologize.

00:18:17.460 But it's kind of

00:18:18.880 what we're seeing now.

00:18:20.740 When they start to use terms

00:18:22.360 like emergency

00:18:23.340 and public health crisis

00:18:25.540 and diagnosing people

00:18:27.480 with climate change,

00:18:28.860 then it all of a sudden

00:18:29.960 is going to justify

00:18:31.080 the same measures

00:18:32.280 that over the last two years

00:18:34.000 governments have said

00:18:34.900 are justified

00:18:35.500 because of bona fide

00:18:37.340 public health concerns

00:18:38.460 such as COVID.

00:18:40.240 And I mean,

00:18:41.320 after all,

00:18:41.640 that is a perfectly

00:18:42.480 logical conclusion.

00:18:44.440 Remember earlier on

00:18:45.360 in the pandemic,

00:18:46.020 all of the global warming

00:18:47.220 alarmists were just so giddy

00:18:48.620 that there were no cars

00:18:49.540 on the road,

00:18:50.100 that COVID was the greatest

00:18:51.420 thing to happen

00:18:52.200 to the fight

00:18:53.020 against climate change.

00:18:54.500 And now you look in Glasgow,

00:18:56.140 30,000 people

00:18:56.960 from around the world

00:18:57.760 have flown

00:18:58.260 on their private jets

00:18:59.700 to the Scottish city

00:19:00.800 to tell us all

00:19:01.860 that we should fly less

00:19:03.380 and forgo eating meat

00:19:05.000 while they gorge

00:19:06.280 on luxury dinners

00:19:07.580 and then of course

00:19:08.600 go back to their private jet

00:19:09.660 because they've got

00:19:10.680 to get home after all

00:19:11.620 and it's not like

00:19:12.080 they can fly commercial

00:19:13.020 or even do the

00:19:14.160 Greta Thunberg thing

00:19:15.080 of taking a sailboat.

00:19:16.660 At least she practices 1.00

00:19:17.820 what she preaches.

00:19:19.960 No, they're now making

00:19:21.220 this about health

00:19:22.740 and by making it

00:19:24.120 about health

00:19:24.640 all of the things

00:19:25.560 that we have done

00:19:26.440 that have surrendered

00:19:27.800 our civil liberties,

00:19:29.140 surrendered our autonomy

00:19:29.940 all in the name of health

00:19:30.940 are going to be justified

00:19:32.200 for the next greatest

00:19:33.160 public health emergency

00:19:34.240 which is that

00:19:35.880 of climate change.

00:19:37.800 And I mean,

00:19:38.300 a lot of these stories

00:19:39.120 you look at

00:19:39.680 and they seem absurd

00:19:40.740 and hilarious

00:19:41.500 you can laugh

00:19:42.600 and joke about them

00:19:43.440 oh my goodness

00:19:44.040 a doctor diagnosing

00:19:45.200 a woman with climate change

00:19:46.360 well, what a novel concept.

00:19:49.120 But be very aware

00:19:50.080 of how these all

00:19:51.320 intersect with each other

00:19:52.600 and form what is

00:19:53.780 a broader fight here

00:19:55.220 that is taking place

00:19:56.180 right now.

00:19:57.620 And when all the world leaders

00:19:58.860 come out of Glasgow

00:19:59.960 in just a couple of days

00:20:00.980 and say

00:20:01.340 listen, this is what we've done

00:20:02.960 we've come up

00:20:03.540 with an agreement

00:20:04.120 it is going to come

00:20:05.520 at a cost

00:20:06.540 and they're going

00:20:07.780 to say it's not

00:20:08.560 we already see this

00:20:10.060 the World Economic Forum

00:20:11.220 which is the group

00:20:12.260 that hosts the big Davos Summit

00:20:13.960 every now and then

00:20:14.620 talking about your

00:20:15.320 private jets right there

00:20:16.700 has said that

00:20:17.760 global carbon pricing

00:20:19.220 this is what they want

00:20:20.100 it's not enough for Canada

00:20:21.120 to have a carbon tax

00:20:22.580 for the UK

00:20:23.100 to have a carbon tax

00:20:24.260 we need a global

00:20:25.920 price on carbon

00:20:27.240 they say

00:20:28.140 it can reduce emissions

00:20:29.300 and pay for itself.

00:20:31.220 Now, one thing

00:20:33.540 that I was taught

00:20:34.380 by my parents

00:20:35.400 when I was younger

00:20:36.280 was to never trust

00:20:37.820 anyone who wants you

00:20:38.700 to buy something

00:20:39.440 that will apparently

00:20:40.780 pay for itself

00:20:41.660 I remember there was

00:20:42.300 a great scene

00:20:43.020 in I Love Lucy

00:20:43.640 where I Love Lucy

00:20:44.360 wanted to buy a walk-in

00:20:45.360 freezer that would

00:20:46.420 pay for itself

00:20:47.100 and Ricky Ricardo

00:20:48.000 said to Lucy

00:20:48.760 well great

00:20:49.520 why don't you just

00:20:50.140 tell it to come on over

00:20:51.020 after it's finished

00:20:51.860 paying for itself

00:20:52.660 that's kind of my view

00:20:54.100 on the climate change

00:20:55.560 fight here as well

00:20:56.420 if you're telling us

00:20:57.620 that a carbon tax

00:20:58.880 is going to pay for itself

00:20:59.980 then why are all

00:21:01.100 the people that are

00:21:01.880 going to be paying for it

00:21:03.120 saying we don't want it

00:21:04.440 and we can't afford it

00:21:06.020 they admit here

00:21:08.260 that there's going

00:21:08.840 to be a hit to GDP

00:21:09.940 but they say

00:21:10.460 it's just going to be

00:21:11.020 a little nominal

00:21:11.660 we less than 1%

00:21:13.420 hit to GDP

00:21:14.220 but that actually

00:21:15.720 the world economy

00:21:16.540 is shrinking by 18%

00:21:17.960 with global temperatures

00:21:19.600 on the rise

00:21:20.660 but when you start

00:21:22.180 talking about the fact

00:21:23.060 that it's no big deal

00:21:24.060 that the economy

00:21:24.760 is not actually

00:21:25.560 going to be taking a hit

00:21:26.820 you have to look

00:21:27.660 at why that is

00:21:28.560 they're writing off

00:21:30.100 entire sectors

00:21:31.020 and entire industries

00:21:32.020 like shipping

00:21:33.060 like forestry

00:21:34.120 like mining

00:21:34.860 like oil and gas

00:21:36.040 and they're creating

00:21:37.740 a transfer of wealth

00:21:39.460 a transfer of wealth

00:21:41.920 from industrious countries

00:21:43.700 to countries like China

00:21:45.960 who don't care

00:21:47.020 industrious developed countries

00:21:49.540 I should say

00:21:50.200 that are all for

00:21:51.520 the virtue signaling

00:21:52.380 and the platitudes

00:21:53.060 it takes the wealth

00:21:53.980 from them

00:21:54.520 and moves it to places

00:21:56.140 like China 0.66

00:21:56.800 that as we've talked

00:21:57.580 about on the show

00:21:58.060 do not care

00:21:59.140 a country that is

00:22:00.600 single-handedly responsible

00:22:01.860 for what 27

00:22:02.840 28% of global emissions

00:22:04.880 is not concerned

00:22:06.060 about doing

00:22:06.860 the Catherine McKenna thing

00:22:08.040 and riding her bicycle

00:22:09.000 from one photo op

00:22:10.080 to the other

00:22:10.920 and going around

00:22:11.980 just as a volunteer

00:22:12.820 because she's so gung-ho

00:22:14.080 at COP26

00:22:15.460 no

00:22:15.820 Xi Jinping

00:22:17.140 didn't even show up

00:22:18.340 to COP26

00:22:19.540 and that pretty much

00:22:21.280 reveals all you need

00:22:22.460 to know about

00:22:22.880 the China approach 0.67

00:22:23.660 to these things

00:22:24.220 they're all for saying

00:22:25.280 that they're partners

00:22:25.880 in climate

00:22:26.400 but when push comes to shove

00:22:27.760 we'll put their own

00:22:28.460 country's economies

00:22:29.380 and best interests

00:22:30.940 ahead of these

00:22:32.440 global ambitious targets

00:22:34.100 ooh the global

00:22:34.720 carbon price

00:22:35.500 who's going to be

00:22:36.580 paying for it

00:22:37.300 it's not Chairman Xi

00:22:38.380 the people paying for it

00:22:40.040 are going to be

00:22:40.400 Canadian families

00:22:41.340 Canadian business

00:22:42.560 and the industry

00:22:43.680 on which the

00:22:44.400 Canadian economy relies

00:22:45.800 and when you talk

00:22:47.920 about a global initiative

00:22:49.160 this is being led

00:22:50.160 by countries

00:22:50.820 like the Maldives

00:22:51.860 and countries

00:22:52.900 like Tuvalu

00:22:53.820 and Tonga

00:22:54.740 and Papua New Guinea

00:22:55.620 and look

00:22:56.520 I'm all for these

00:22:57.480 countries that are

00:22:58.120 seeing some changes

00:22:58.900 that they need to adapt to

00:23:00.200 but the reality is

00:23:01.440 Justin Trudeau

00:23:02.120 is not supposed

00:23:02.900 to be representing

00:23:03.780 the Maldives

00:23:04.880 and Tonga

00:23:05.700 and Tuvalu

00:23:06.520 and Vanuatu

00:23:07.280 he's supposed to be

00:23:08.340 representing Canadians

00:23:09.460 this was a point

00:23:10.740 the great Mark Stein

00:23:11.660 made about Boris Johnson

00:23:12.920 he's not the Prime Minister

00:23:13.960 of the Maldives

00:23:14.640 he's the Prime Minister

00:23:15.660 of the United Kingdom

00:23:16.860 so when you start

00:23:19.260 talking about

00:23:19.880 global initiatives

00:23:21.080 it's trying to take

00:23:22.740 every country's

00:23:23.980 dynamic

00:23:24.480 every country's

00:23:25.660 struggle

00:23:26.060 every country's

00:23:27.340 burden

00:23:27.600 and put it all

00:23:28.300 into one neat

00:23:28.840 little box

00:23:29.380 and wrap it up

00:23:29.960 with a bow

00:23:30.400 and make it so

00:23:31.840 that the wealthy

00:23:33.700 have to pay the price

00:23:36.280 for the poorer

00:23:37.480 countries in the world

00:23:38.480 which may sound nice

00:23:40.860 but the idea

00:23:42.440 of wealth transfer

00:23:43.680 needs wealth

00:23:44.780 and if you're trying

00:23:46.160 to penalize

00:23:47.040 the wealth creators

00:23:48.120 you're trying to penalize

00:23:49.240 the countries

00:23:50.220 and the industries

00:23:51.000 and the economies

00:23:51.880 that are doing

00:23:52.480 the heavy lifting here

00:23:53.540 you don't get to do

00:23:54.860 all of these other things

00:23:55.680 remember

00:23:56.040 the agreements

00:23:56.920 they've made

00:23:57.600 in Paris

00:23:58.300 and will make

00:23:58.900 in Glasgow

00:23:59.500 require hundreds

00:24:00.700 of billions of dollars

00:24:01.960 trillions of dollars

00:24:02.940 over time

00:24:03.520 to be transferred

00:24:04.580 from wealthy countries

00:24:05.520 to poorer countries

00:24:06.300 they can't do that

00:24:07.740 if you are effectively

00:24:08.860 criminalizing

00:24:09.860 the sectors

00:24:10.840 that allow these

00:24:11.580 countries to make

00:24:12.440 their money

00:24:12.920 so this idea

00:24:15.000 of a carbon tax

00:24:16.000 that's going to pay

00:24:16.560 for itself

00:24:17.100 well a load of good

00:24:18.120 that's going to do

00:24:18.900 to all the people

00:24:19.580 out of work in Canada

00:24:20.660 just so that the carbon tax

00:24:22.340 can pay for itself

00:24:23.240 in Papua New Guinea

00:24:24.440 we've got to take

00:24:25.860 a quick break

00:24:26.520 when we come back

00:24:27.380 more of the Andrew Lawton Show

00:24:28.840 stay tuned

00:24:29.580 you're tuned in

00:24:32.160 to the Andrew Lawton Show

00:24:33.740 we are back

00:24:37.000 this is the Andrew Lawton Show

00:24:38.600 here on True North

00:24:39.860 I want to talk

00:24:40.400 for a couple of moments

00:24:41.480 about a little bit

00:24:42.540 of a change up

00:24:43.520 in conservative politics

00:24:45.020 this morning

00:24:46.020 Aaron O'Toole

00:24:47.120 announced his shadow cabinet

00:24:48.980 a couple of unsurprising

00:24:50.840 developments there

00:24:51.700 Pierre Polyev

00:24:52.460 is back as the finance critic

00:24:54.220 he was

00:24:55.080 you may remember

00:24:55.720 demoted before the election

00:24:57.240 for reasons that were

00:24:58.260 never quite explained

00:24:59.200 but now that the election's back

00:25:00.860 the conservatives

00:25:01.380 are allowed to have a backbone

00:25:02.520 so Pierre Polyev

00:25:03.840 gets to be

00:25:04.600 the finance critic again

00:25:05.960 you have a couple

00:25:07.100 of other things

00:25:08.040 that are pretty unchanged

00:25:09.500 some unsurprising

00:25:10.620 developments

00:25:11.360 Michael Chong

00:25:12.040 back in foreign affairs

00:25:13.500 new MP

00:25:14.500 Melissa Lansman

00:25:15.600 is the critic

00:25:16.400 for transport

00:25:17.180 curiously

00:25:18.400 Marilyn Gladue

00:25:19.500 is not in shadow cabinet

00:25:21.220 now

00:25:21.440 Marilyn Gladue

00:25:22.640 I spoke to her on the show

00:25:23.660 when she was seeking

00:25:24.420 the leadership

00:25:25.120 of the conservative party

00:25:26.840 she's always been

00:25:27.580 a well-liked

00:25:28.500 and popular

00:25:29.060 and very accomplished

00:25:30.580 member of the

00:25:31.500 conservative caucus

00:25:32.380 she's been in shadow cabinet

00:25:34.260 in the past

00:25:34.840 she's not there

00:25:35.960 I have no inside knowledge

00:25:38.380 about why she

00:25:39.460 is not in shadow cabinet

00:25:41.420 maybe she was a contender 1.00

00:25:42.620 maybe she wasn't

00:25:43.660 but I can't help

00:25:44.900 but wonder

00:25:45.380 if a big part of it

00:25:46.700 is the fact

00:25:47.700 that she's been pushing

00:25:48.720 for MPs

00:25:49.940 in the conservative caucus

00:25:51.140 to stand up

00:25:52.280 for civil liberties

00:25:53.500 she's the founder 1.00

00:25:54.960 of the civil liberties caucus

00:25:56.620 a group of MPs

00:25:57.720 a list of which

00:25:58.700 we've not seen

00:25:59.460 who have gotten together

00:26:00.320 to say

00:26:00.800 that members of parliament

00:26:02.440 need to be standing up

00:26:03.520 for their constituents

00:26:04.280 who are very concerned

00:26:05.800 about vaccine mandates

00:26:07.460 who are very concerned

00:26:08.360 about these policies

00:26:09.740 that are being pushed

00:26:10.580 by all levels of government

00:26:11.840 that try to segregate society

00:26:13.840 and are very much

00:26:15.140 costing people

00:26:16.020 their jobs

00:26:16.720 and their livelihoods

00:26:19.020 there have been

00:26:19.540 a few MPs

00:26:20.500 after the election

00:26:21.440 not the least of which

00:26:22.680 is Marilyn Gladju

00:26:23.620 also Leslyn Lewis

00:26:25.100 Dean Allison

00:26:25.980 conservative MPs

00:26:27.160 that have spoken out

00:26:28.060 against in some cases

00:26:29.840 the unanimity

00:26:30.780 of the public health narrative

00:26:32.100 that you're not allowed

00:26:33.320 to question

00:26:34.000 Leslyn Lewis

00:26:35.060 has spoken about

00:26:36.000 vaccinating children

00:26:36.980 and whether that's

00:26:37.720 the best approach

00:26:38.480 Dean Allison

00:26:39.500 has spoken about

00:26:40.300 a diversity

00:26:40.900 in the medical community

00:26:41.980 that's not being reflected

00:26:43.180 in a lot of the

00:26:44.460 public health guidance

00:26:45.340 we're getting

00:26:45.720 from the federal government

00:26:46.760 none of these

00:26:47.820 should be contentious

00:26:49.180 or controversial points

00:26:50.600 but the media

00:26:51.460 was of course

00:26:52.080 asking Aaron O'Toole

00:26:53.020 about them

00:26:53.560 and what does he do

00:26:54.740 he says

00:26:55.160 oh yeah yeah

00:26:55.700 they're all wrong

00:26:56.320 and they should shut up 0.82

00:26:57.180 just take a watch

00:26:58.060 as I've said

00:26:59.460 there's a big difference

00:27:01.100 between advocating

00:27:01.860 for your constituents

00:27:02.900 who may need

00:27:04.040 reasonable accommodation

00:27:04.920 and creating confusion

00:27:06.500 about public health measures

00:27:08.440 it's a great example

00:27:09.680 of why members of parliament

00:27:11.060 of all stripes

00:27:12.200 should let the professionals

00:27:14.400 let the public health officials

00:27:15.900 let the physicians 0.99

00:27:17.220 answer questions

00:27:18.740 about efficacy of vaccines

00:27:20.700 or provincial programs

00:27:22.020 on vaccination

00:27:22.780 as I just said

00:27:23.740 it's important

00:27:24.960 for members of parliament

00:27:25.900 to advocate

00:27:26.900 for their

00:27:27.380 their constituents

00:27:29.500 who may be losing a job

00:27:31.140 or may need

00:27:31.780 reasonable accommodation

00:27:33.060 we do that all the time

00:27:34.380 on a range of issues

00:27:35.580 but it's very different

00:27:37.420 to cause confusion

00:27:39.340 with respect

00:27:39.900 to the health and well-being

00:27:40.700 of Canadians

00:27:41.240 Ms. Gladew's interview

00:27:42.280 did that yesterday

00:27:43.080 and it's not appropriate

00:27:44.840 at a time

00:27:45.600 we should be answering

00:27:46.420 questions about

00:27:47.320 vaccine hesitancy

00:27:48.840 not creating new questions

00:27:50.500 now this is by the way

00:27:51.960 coming from the same Aaron O'Toole

00:27:53.500 who has previously

00:27:55.080 at a couple of points

00:27:55.920 spoken about

00:27:56.540 the importance of choice

00:27:58.260 in vaccination

00:27:59.060 saying it is a personal choice

00:28:00.760 for people

00:28:01.240 but now he's saying

00:28:02.660 his caucus members

00:28:03.680 who by the way

00:28:04.760 he said also previously

00:28:06.040 he supports conscience rights for

00:28:07.760 now well

00:28:09.000 you know what

00:28:09.440 they don't actually

00:28:10.120 get to speak their minds

00:28:11.000 on this

00:28:11.380 and now it's not appropriate

00:28:12.820 for them to stand up

00:28:13.780 for civil liberties

00:28:14.520 it's not appropriate

00:28:15.400 for them to talk about

00:28:16.880 some of the experts

00:28:17.660 who are speaking out

00:28:18.500 whose voices are being silenced

00:28:20.220 that's all not appropriate

00:28:21.540 you only get to say

00:28:23.420 what the leader's office

00:28:24.520 says you get to say

00:28:25.700 that's the way

00:28:26.760 the conservative party

00:28:27.700 is ready to kick off

00:28:29.220 this session of parliament

00:28:30.860 and if you want to see

00:28:32.100 how dangerous

00:28:33.040 this process can be

00:28:34.280 just take a look

00:28:35.120 at what's happening

00:28:35.740 to Bert Chen

00:28:36.640 now Bert Chen

00:28:37.520 is the national council member

00:28:39.640 who spoke out

00:28:40.440 very quick after the election

00:28:42.180 against Aaron O'Toole's leadership

00:28:43.740 and started that petition

00:28:45.540 that we covered here

00:28:46.420 on the Andrew Lawton show

00:28:47.620 well Bert Chen

00:28:48.800 was suspended

00:28:49.640 from national council

00:28:50.840 and just look at

00:28:52.160 what's happening

00:28:52.740 to him now

00:28:53.480 he could be ordered

00:28:55.160 to turn over emails

00:28:57.000 and phone records

00:28:58.880 emails and phone records

00:29:01.460 Bert Chen

00:29:01.960 has been asked

00:29:02.860 to turn over

00:29:03.640 any records

00:29:04.460 connected to his push

00:29:05.820 to oust O'Toole

00:29:06.620 but but why

00:29:07.800 like for what reason

00:29:09.080 under what authority

00:29:11.280 now his lawyer

00:29:13.320 Scott Hamilton

00:29:14.180 has said that this is

00:29:15.080 an unprecedented campaign

00:29:16.900 to thwart dissenting views

00:29:18.320 and oust those party members

00:29:20.100 who disagree

00:29:20.640 with the leadership

00:29:21.480 of the party

00:29:22.360 his 60-day suspension

00:29:24.200 will come up

00:29:25.160 at some point

00:29:25.720 I think in the next month

00:29:26.580 or so

00:29:27.000 but the reality is

00:29:28.460 there's now

00:29:29.060 a witch hunt underway 0.84

00:29:30.320 to unearth anyone

00:29:32.760 who may have been

00:29:33.700 talking to him

00:29:34.520 who may be sympathetic

00:29:35.540 to him

00:29:36.620 in criticizing

00:29:38.300 Aaron O'Toole's leadership

00:29:39.600 so this idea

00:29:41.740 of cracking the whip

00:29:42.780 on your caucus members

00:29:44.040 cracking your whip

00:29:44.860 on your national councillors

00:29:46.160 effectively

00:29:46.920 this is going to turn

00:29:48.000 into cracking the whip

00:29:48.980 on conservative members

00:29:50.460 as well

00:29:50.840 because a lot of them

00:29:51.540 are going to want to speak out

00:29:52.400 at the upcoming conventions

00:29:53.640 and may well be denied

00:29:55.500 the right to do that

00:29:56.660 is this the way

00:29:58.960 you build a winning coalition

00:30:00.660 and if so

00:30:02.380 you're winning at what cost

00:30:03.960 you know

00:30:05.220 I know I quoted

00:30:05.800 Mark Stein earlier

00:30:06.660 but I'll quote another

00:30:07.400 one of his go-to lines here

00:30:08.700 it's a lot easier

00:30:09.780 for the base

00:30:10.400 to get themselves

00:30:11.080 a new leader

00:30:11.680 than for the leader

00:30:12.400 to get themselves

00:30:13.560 a new base

00:30:14.400 and that is a

00:30:16.240 fundamental truth

00:30:17.220 that you can't avoid

00:30:17.880 here right now

00:30:18.500 if Aaron O'Toole decides

00:30:19.780 to go to war

00:30:20.440 against his own party

00:30:21.560 and people whose opinions

00:30:23.380 and whose reputations

00:30:24.580 carry a lot of weight

00:30:25.480 in that party

00:30:26.140 he's going to very quickly

00:30:27.360 find himself

00:30:28.120 a leader

00:30:28.940 without an army

00:30:30.100 we have to end things there

00:30:32.340 my thanks to all of you

00:30:33.500 for tuning in

00:30:34.380 to the program today

00:30:35.420 we'll be back

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