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- February 18, 2026
Canada’s population has grown 34.6% since 2000. Now what?
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15 minutes
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3,067
Sentence Count
212
Hate Speech Sentences
15
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. So part of the reason that I
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launched Juno News and part of the reason that I host this podcast is because I believe in free
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speech and civic debate. I think we need to have more discussions and more debates about the
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important issues facing our country, not fewer. And so it's interesting that I hosted a debate
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in an interview with Daniel Thierry of the Dominion Society earlier this week, and the
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response was kind of shocking. The number of people, even on the political right, even in the
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so-called conservative side, who were calling for him to be cancelled, him to be deplatformed,
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me to be cancelled, me to be deplatformed, just for having conversations about immigration. It was
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really quite something to see the cancel culture mob come after us. And look, I don't necessarily
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agree with Daniel Thierry. I disagree with him, even on the very definition of what it means to
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be Canadians. We had this debate and this discussion. So I don't have to agree with everything the guy
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says to want to have a discussion and have him on my podcast. Again, I will let the audience decide.
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That's up to the audience to make up their mind one way or another. It's not up to a journalist
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to tell you what to believe, what you should and shouldn't believe, right? I'm here to present the
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facts, present the arguments, and then let you make up your own mind. That is the role of journalism.
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That's the role of free speech in a free society. And so, you know, it's on the one hand kind of
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disappointing to see the reaction from some people on the political right and, of course, on the political
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left. But on the other hand, it was also great to see that we seem to have started a dialogue.
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Every time I logged on to X this week, a platform formerly known as Twitter, I saw that the top
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trending discussions on that platform were all around immigration. Partially reaction to Daniel
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Thierry coming on my show. Partial reaction to Jason Kenney, the former immigration minister,
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and his overreaction, I think, to the interview. As well as even today, liberals on X on Twitter.
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are having a similar discussion about Canada's population growth. So this was a top story
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I saw on my timeline this morning. Canada's population grows by 34% from 2000 to 2024,
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surpassing the combined growth of other European countries. And so David Coletto, who's a liberal
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pollster, posted this. It was also posted by Mike Moffitt, who's a liberal economist. And then David
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Coletto also posted it. But David Coletto writes, to see our population growth in comparative perspective
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like this is really something. You can see all the countries listed, Austria, Czech, Denmark,
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Finland, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia, and Sweden, and how much their
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populations all grew from 2000 to 2024 versus Canada. So back in 2000, our population was just
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over 30 million. And today, it's over 41 million. Probably surpassed 42 because this is 2024 numbers.
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We're now two years out from this. We've added more than 10 million people to our country in the last
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two decades. That equates to a 34, 34.6%, so 35% growth. Many people see that and just think it's
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quite shocking. And you can tell why we have so many problems in this country. So many of them,
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like I said in the preamble to my interview with Daniel Teary, is that so many of the problems in
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our country are downstream from immigration. Ezra Levant, founder of The Rebel and a free speech
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activist as well, said this about David Coletto's post. He said, very interesting. I'd like to see the
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correlation with housing prices and inflation, stagnation and wages, especially for young people,
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crime, anti-Semitism, and terrorism. And I think that those are some examples of the problems in our
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country that have come downstream from immigration. So I'm pleased to say that our show is having an
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impact in the dialogue in the country, that we've gotten a lot of people to think and talk about
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immigration. Again, that is the very purpose of the show and the very purpose of me launching this
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network and doing what I do day in and day out. I want more conversations. I want you to take these
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ideas that we're having on this show and bring them home and have them with your family, with your
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friends. And really, if we're going to solve the major problems facing our country, we have to be able to
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talk about them. And on the conservative side, we can't just be shamed into silence. Anytime we
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deviate too far from the center, we get shamed into coming back and taking the liberal position.
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I've had enough of it. I don't think we should do that, whether it's on trans and pronouns or the
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hoax of the unmarked raves or immigration. Conservatives have to stand their ground and not
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give in to bullying. So I want to go over some of the reaction to the interview, which again, was
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on the one hand, quite surprising. So here, of course, as I mentioned, Jason Kenney,
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former immigration minister, former Premier of Alberta, and should be noted, I worked for Jason
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Kenney. And for a long time, I considered him a friend. And I think that Jason's changed his stripes
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on many of the things that he talks about and believes in over the last few years in an unfortunate
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direction. Anyway, so here's what Jason Kenney had to say about my interview with Daniel
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Teary of the Dominion Society. He wrote, Daniel Teary is a racist. Racism is immoral. It is poison.
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It is not vitality. It is not conservative. And what the hell does re-migration mean? Forced
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deportations of people who lawfully immigrated to Canada and are now permanent residents or
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Canadian citizens, question mark? Bananas. So this was actually in response to Cosmo Georgia. So
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my colleague and our managing editor here at Juno News, Cosmo Georgia, wrote this. He said,
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important debate between Candace Malcolm and Daniel Teary on re-migration. There's genuine
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vitality on the Canadian right right now. Re-migrationists and restrictionists, Alberta
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sovereignists, Canadian nationalists. We're stronger for it. So he's saying that we're having these
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debates, right? And we don't all agree, but the fact that we're having these debates makes us
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stronger. We're having a debate between Alberta sovereignists and Canadian nationalists. We're having
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a debate between re-migrationists, so that would be Daniel Teary, and more restrictionists,
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that would be me. So Cosmo is celebrating this, and Jason Kenney is horrified by this and saying
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he's a racist. And again, you know, we're trying to open the Overton window to have more conversations.
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And this is an example of Jason Kenney actually trying to close it, because he's saying,
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no, no, no, Candace, Daniel Teary is a racist. You cannot have that conversation with him.
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He's poisoning the well. He's saying that people who are talking about re-migration are racist,
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and therefore you shouldn't talk to them. So we should close the Overton window. Like,
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restrictionists is as far as you can go. You can't go further. You know, we can have this
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debate. And, you know, maybe we'll have more of these debates on this show, but really what he's
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trying to do there is a tactic of cancel culture. And then Jason Kenney posts this in a reply to his
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own tweet. He says, evidence of racism, just gross. And then the evidence of racism that he has
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is these images of Daniel Teary at the conservative convention, and he had that picture of Pierre
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Polyev, and he's saying, conserve what, right? And so from my perspective, what I saw this as is,
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look, remember when Justin Trudeau was prime minister and he used to play Mr. Dress Up and
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wear all those silly costumes and pander and pander and pander? And we all made fun of him,
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right? It was ridiculous and silly. And seeing him wearing Indian clothes in India and dancing
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and all this stuff, like it was just too much. We didn't like the pandering, right? And so I think
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it's only fair to say, hey guys, we made fun of Justin Trudeau for pandering. Pierre Polyev does the
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same thing. He does the same thing. He panders as well. Look, here he is wearing a turban. Here he is
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dancing in Indian clothes. It's fair game. Is it polite? Is it nice? No, no, it's rude. It's a rude
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criticism. Daniel Teary is being impolite. He's being rude and he's mocking Pierre Polyev, which
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makes some people feel uncomfortable. But I don't really see how it's racist. I think that it's saying
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we don't like it when Canadians dress up in foreign ethnic garb to try to get votes from certain ethnic
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communities. I don't know. I personally don't think it's racist. Let me know what you think.
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Let me know in the comments if you think it's racist to make fun of Pierre Polyev for dressing
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up in Indian clothes. And if you think that Jason Kenney's right, that this is evidence of racism
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that's just gross. Or if you're like me and you just think it's impolite and it's crass. But I don't
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see any evidence of racism. And interestingly, guys, there are so much examples, so many examples of
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real racism in Canada, like real ingrained, institutionalized racism that we point out
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at Juno News all the time. Check out Melanie Bennett's reporting about how schools in Ontario
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are trying to eradicate whiteness and that they're training sessions on pulling out white supremacy and
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dialing in on white people. Look at how many jobs. Jonathan Kaye does a great job exposing this on X.
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How many jobs in Canada have right in the description that the job is only for minorities,
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right? That white people shouldn't apply. So there are tons of examples of actual honest-to-goodness
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race-based bigotry in this country. And it's not in the direction that Jason Kenney is saying here,
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right? The real institutionalized racism, unfortunately, is against Canadians. And we
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see that time and time again. That's racism. So for all the racist things to be pointing out,
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interestingly, Jason points to this. Okay. And it wasn't just Jason Kenney. Lots of other
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responses from people on the political right. And I don't disregard all of this criticism. Some of it
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I think is probably pretty accurate. I want to read what Wyatt Claypool had to say. Wyatt is a
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conservative activist. He's been on the show many times. I like Wyatt a lot. I think he's really smart
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and really like a up and coming star in the conservative movement online. So Wyatt posted
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this, Daniel Teary on X versus Daniel Teary on Juno. So he's saying that on X, you know, he looks like this
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big, masculine, tough guy. And then on Juno with me, he's like this, like crying little puppy dog.
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I don't know. He says, LOL, he gets service justifying his extremely overheated policy
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when he actually has to say it and not type it. Wyatt goes on to say, most obnoxious thing he does
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is pretend everyone outside of Dominion society just wants to learn to live with the problem. No,
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normal conservatives are perfectly happy to deport large numbers of people overstaying visas, PRs
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with criminal records, PRs exploiting social services, fake refugees, slash the number of PRs
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and temporary foreign workers student visas to hand out. Dominion society only survives on the
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idea that they are the only ones who oppose mass immigration. Vast majorities of conservatives oppose
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it and want to reverse it as much as possible. We just reject the ethno-nationalist policies of the
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Dominion society. Canada is a country of values. Now that means some countries will have populations
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far less likely to be compatible with Canada, but that doesn't mean that individuals may not
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be a great fit for Canada. Europe, Asia, Africa, et cetera, can be the places of ethnic states where
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the home base of the certain people groups are maintained as far more pure cultural spaces. So
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this again goes to the heart of the matter. What does it mean to be Canadian? Is it an ethnic
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discretion or is it just a country of values that we all share these values? I think this is an
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interesting conversation and debate. And again, I'm looking forward to facilitating more
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conversations like this. I'm actually trying to set up a debate between Wyatt Claypool and Daniel
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Terry, which I think will be really interesting. We can get into a lot of these questions more
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deeply. Garnet Genis, an MP from Alberta, also was critical of this interview. And I'll read a bit of
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our exchange on X. So I wrote just in response to all this, it isn't racist to want to end mass
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migration. It isn't racist to define what it means to be Canadian. And it isn't racist to say that those
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who don't belong in Canada should be asked to leave. And again, I'm just defending the space,
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right? Like, let's have this conversation. I'm not saying that Daniel is right or wrong. I'm just
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saying that by casting him as racist and saying we can't have these conversations, you again,
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close the Overton window, you prevent meaningful discussion and debate. And you kind of push these
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conversations into dark corners of the internet. Like people are having these conversations, we can
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either have them out in the open, or you can force them into dark circles, the internet. But I don't
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think that that's useful. I think that that ideas deserve sunlight and daylight, and then you can
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determine what is best. So that's what I wrote on X. Garnett replied, maybe Daniel doesn't care
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about being called a racist. But if he would like to defend himself against that charge,
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then he should explain precisely how his plan to expel Canadian citizens from the country would
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proceed. I wrote in response to that, I said in the interview, he told me that remigration means
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removing those here illegally, then ending the temporary work programs, then ending special
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entitlement programs to entice bogus refugees to come and overstay. I don't find that objectionable
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or even controversial. And then Garnett says in the interview, and he gives a timestamp,
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he talks about remigration means expelling people who are citizens. He subsequently explains
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on Twitter that this would involve a single minister exercising discretion over who can stay and who
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must go. I'm trying to be gracious here, but I think you can see the problem. And then I wrote,
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citizenship revocation is current law. Harper tried to use it against terrorists. Trudeau wants to
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defend it against fraudsters. I personally don't think that we need to go that far, but I think,
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I don't think it's beyond the pale to discuss these things, right? Like if you came to Canada
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under, you know, under false pretenses and that you didn't actually meet the criteria, then yeah,
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you should have your citizenship stripped. I was also very critical of Justin Trudeau changing
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the requirements to become Canadian. He made it way too easy. So just about anyone could become
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Canadian. We need to reverse that and turn around. I'm not saying that we should take those 12
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million people that have come in the last two decades and deport them. I think that that's obviously not
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going to happen. But I am saying that we need to have stricter citizenship roles and take it more
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seriously. And again, this is all, these are all things that we can have conversations about. There
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was a bunch more responses, some people that were a bit more hysterical. I won't get into all of them
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here. I will just say Canadian constitutional lawyer, Josh Dehas, who's also really great and
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really smart. I've had him on the show before. He writes this, you couldn't even constitutionally
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re-migrate citizens using Section 33 protect. So Section 6 protects the rights of citizens to
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remain in Canada. Section 33 doesn't apply. So they're talking about like the legality of whether
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you could actually strip people's citizenship. And finally, Matt spoke political commentator. He's
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probably more on the libertarian side. He's a great guy. I've had him on my show before as well.
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He wrote this about Daniel Terry. He said, this guy is dangerous. This type of thinking is toxic.
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Conservatives of all types should distance themselves from this agenda without caveat. Okay,
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Matt spoke also right to criticize and seek to reform our immigration system is critical to
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debate proportion of people here illegally or visa holders who commit crimes is reasonable to
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segregate heritage. Canadians read white from other Canadians read non-white who have now legally joined
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our country and contributed is violent races, not to mention impractical and incorrect diagnosis of
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the problems of this country. So I think there's probably a lot of validity to what Matt is saying,
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but it is just one of those things that, you know, we're starting this conversation and at least more and
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more conservatives now think is the moderate position to just want to deport all the illegal
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people and to get rid of the fake refugees and to stop the temporary programs, which I think is a win.
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I want to just point out one other story that is really making the rounds and it's all connected.
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This is National Post. Canada is now spending 1 billion per year to cover healthcare costs of refugee
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claimants. This is an absolute nightmare. This is a disaster. A billion dollars for healthcare that goes
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above and beyond what Canadians receive to refugees, many of them fake, many of them bogus. People are
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taking advantage of our generosity. We need to have these conversations. Conservatives need to get
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serious about immigration. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much
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for tuning in. I'm Candice Falcom. This is Candice Falcom Show. Thank you and God bless.
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