Juno News - Canadian military full of white supremacy, patriarchy, official journal claims

00:00:00.000 You may have seen yesterday at True North, my colleague Cosman Georgia published what

00:00:13.500 I thought was a tremendously researched story. One of these hidden in plain sight reports.

00:00:19.060 It was based on the Canadian Military Journal, which is the official publication. It's more

00:00:24.300 academic in nature, but the official publication of the Canadian Armed Forces. And while it's not

00:00:30.240 a product, it's not a communications product of the Department of National Defense,

00:00:34.440 it is official and it is where the military gets a lot of its theoretical and practical material from

00:00:41.960 clearly. Because what we saw in this issue is it was dedicated to unmasking and exposing patriarchy

00:00:49.180 and whiteness and white supremacy. I believe we have the table of contents for you here. 0.58

00:00:55.220 This is one issue, the summer issue, getting to the root of the problem. There is an article about

00:01:01.120 interrogating whiteness and power in the Canadian Armed Forces. There's an article about whether

00:01:06.280 supporting military families is reinforcing patriarchy. There is an article about gender

00:01:13.360 identity and military culture. There are articles about women's experiences, feminism, and the

00:01:19.900 military. But the bulk of this is saying that the military is upholding white supremacy and patriarchy.

00:01:26.480 This idea that the military is clearly behind and you wonder why they're having so much difficulty

00:01:31.880 with morale because they're telling all the men and all the white people that, well, you guys just

00:01:36.860 don't really matter. You are you people don't want to be too gendered about this. I wanted to get some

00:01:41.480 veteran perspective on this because, again, I've heard so many members of the Canadian Armed Forces.

00:01:46.840 My father is a veteran and I know many people in my family and in your families and many of you

00:01:52.420 listening have served in the Armed Forces as well. I wanted to welcome into the show Tom Marazzo,

00:01:57.560 who you've heard from on a number of occasions, a former captain with the Armed Forces and also the

00:02:01.960 author of the People's Emergency Act, as well as Andrew McGilvery, who's the president of Veterans for

00:02:08.020 Freedom. Drew and Tom, it's great to talk to you both. Thanks for being with us here and thanks

00:02:13.260 for your service. I mean, let me just ask first and foremost here, how does this publication and how

00:02:20.420 the military has gone on this issue make you feel about your service, this body that you devoted a

00:02:25.720 chunk of your lives to? I'll start with you, Drew.

00:02:27.440 It's pretty alarming. I'm one of the guys who was going to put in 25, 30 years. I joined because I

00:02:39.920 was a patriotic Canadian. I grew up in Scarborough, which is located in Toronto, a very multicultural

00:02:47.480 neighborhood. Then they're pushing this stuff and they're forcing it on the troops. Then I look back

00:02:52.200 in my 12-year career and I say, why did I do this? This isn't the institution. This isn't the country

00:02:57.800 that I signed up to defend and ultimately was willing to risk my life for. It's completely

00:03:03.900 disrespectful to the troops and the soldiers that are still in there. This has been a trajectory

00:03:11.200 they've been going down for the past couple of months. It just is what it is, unfortunately.

00:03:16.120 And I'll put the same question to you, Tom.

00:03:19.320 Well, I do find it completely offensive, to be perfectly honest. My time in the military,

00:03:27.380 and I did 25 years total, I was a reservist and I was a regular force member. The vast majority

00:03:34.640 of people that join the Canadian Armed Forces are rural members, some small towns, but the vast

00:03:42.400 majority of people that join are Caucasian males and females of a Christian ethnicity or Christian

00:03:52.140 descent. And, you know, they're very patriotic Canadians. And, you know, this idea of whiteness,

00:04:04.400 like it's how do you justify the concept of white supremacy when your entire unit that you're in,

00:04:11.000 let's say, as an example, your entire platoon or your company or even your regiment, when the vast

00:04:16.760 majority of the people in there are Caucasians who are, you know, come from a Christian background.

00:04:23.800 And I'm not suggesting that everybody's religious. I'm saying that their religious morals and ethics

00:04:30.100 and their values derive from a Christian upbringing in a largely Christian society.

00:04:35.700 So where does the white supremacy come in when you look around and everybody's white? Like, 0.65

00:04:42.020 who are we supremacists against? Like, it's kind of offensive to sit there and say that there's this,

00:04:49.940 you know, racism or deep dislike for somebody who doesn't look like you based on your skin color

00:04:59.880 in the Canadian forces when the reality is that anybody who's done basic training knows your

00:05:05.920 personality is stripped down to the bare essence of who you are as a Canadian and you're rebuilt as

00:05:12.680 a soldier or a sailor or an airman. You're not rebuilt as a Christian or a Muslim or you're not from India 0.98

00:05:20.540 or whatever. Like, these things are very blurred to paint this very nefarious picture that doesn't make

00:05:27.400 any sense. Because from, you know, as far as I'm concerned and everything I was ever taught in the

00:05:32.160 military, you're a soldier first. That's what matters. And can you be relied upon to defend the

00:05:40.520 lives of your brothers and sisters in arms? Nobody's looking at your ethnicity. Nobody's looking at your

00:05:46.660 religion. Nobody's looking at your whiteness. They're looking at, you know, in the case of the army,

00:05:53.080 they're looking at a guy who or girl who's, you know, camouflaged. And are they competent and willing

00:05:59.800 and able to do the business of war, the business of violence, not the business of social engineering? 0.97

00:06:07.720 And this is what a lot of this crap that we're seeing is all about. It's not about warfare. It's 0.88

00:06:12.460 not about defending Canada. It's trying to hypnotize certain portions of Canadians to vote liberal.

00:06:19.460 And I hope we can get into that discussion as well. Yeah. And I, but I wanted to ask, because you

00:06:24.820 raised, I think, an important point there. I mean, my understanding of this is not someone who's served,

00:06:29.560 but someone who's had family members who have, is that uniformity was always a very core part of the

00:06:36.000 military. And it was meant to basically be exactly what you've just described there. Your role has to be

00:06:41.460 the uniform, not who you are as an individual when you're serving. And I think it was two years ago that

00:06:47.320 they significantly dropped the standards on uniformity where you could have dyed hair and

00:06:53.460 face tattoos. No offense to people with dyed hair and face tattoos, but well, I mean, a little bit,

00:06:58.280 I'm okay offending a little bit of the face tattoo crowd. But the thing about that is that here we have

00:07:03.440 the military. And I understand why, because if you have no recruitment and you have no people there,

00:07:08.740 I understand the impulse to just start dropping all these barriers. But I think it has an inverse

00:07:13.240 relationship because all of a sudden you change it so much that the people you want in there are

00:07:17.900 saying, I don't know if I want to be a part of that anymore. But it seems like the military has

00:07:22.340 gone along with this very woke academic idea that everyone needs to be this celebrated individual

00:07:28.740 snowflake, which is a complete reversal. Correct me if I'm wrong here, Drew, but of what the military

00:07:34.760 has always been about and what it needs to be to be a success at its goals.

00:07:39.620 Yeah. So ultimately there's, there's a guy named Andy stump who does a podcast called cleared hot.

00:07:45.920 And when he was asked about diversity in the seals and he felt that they were, you know,

00:07:51.080 did they lose anything by the lack of diversity and his answer, which I remembered verbatim because

00:07:57.140 it was the perfect answer. He said, well, I don't know. He goes, are we aiming for diversity or are

00:08:02.480 we aiming to achieve a standard? And that standard is dictated to us by what we encounter on the

00:08:08.320 battlefield. And the battlefield doesn't give a crap about diversity, which is ultimately the best 0.61

00:08:13.520 answer I've ever heard. And it's, it's when you get into, into uniform, you, you get discriminated 0.90

00:08:22.500 against generally in three ways. Okay. It's your element. So either army, Navy, or air force,

00:08:28.740 your trade and your rank. And that's just to build a spree to core and there's banter and that sort of

00:08:34.660 thing. No one cares about the color of your skin or what's between your legs. We care about what is 0.99

00:08:41.260 between your ears. So all of this stuff that's happening with academia and what they're doing,

00:08:46.380 it's being funded by the government. And what we're, what's worrisome is we're seeing a similarity

00:08:51.940 between, uh, what's happening, what's happened in China with the CCP and what's happening here.

00:08:57.840 And how I, uh, what I mean is that in China, uh, the, their military is beholden to the party.

00:09:05.500 It's beholden to the CCP and not the state. And we're starting to see that here in Canada

00:09:10.360 is that the Canadian forces is becoming beholden to the liberal party and their ideology and not

00:09:15.860 the state. This idea that we're seeing, I, cause the, the, the, the whole, like we're a systemically

00:09:21.980 racist institution that goes back a couple of years now, this article that, or the series

00:09:26.920 of articles from the summer that a true North reported on yesterday. Was this really a creation

00:09:32.740 of the last couple of years? Or did you start to see this, both of you near the end of your

00:09:37.400 service? And I don't know what years you left, but had, had you started to see shades of this

00:09:41.560 trend then, or has it really just been a blunt instrument as of late?

00:09:45.680 Yeah. So I, I can, I'll speak to that just ahead of Tom, cause I know he got out a while

00:09:51.540 ago. I, I just got out just over two, uh, just over two years ago. And we lose Drew, I

00:09:58.440 hear him. I don't see him. I don't see him either. It might, it might come back. I mean,

00:10:02.300 there's a snow storm in Ontario. All right. Well, I'll go to you first, Tom, while we're

00:10:08.600 getting Drew sorted out. So in the early nineties, like I left the military in 2015, but even in

00:10:15.440 the early to mid nineties, we had this, uh, training program. It was called sharp. It

00:10:20.720 was an acronym for sexual harassment and all these things. And we had to undergo a

00:10:25.380 lot of this training, but it was interesting because the, the training was put on by non,

00:10:32.480 um, non veterans or non, uh, currently serving military. They were, you know, academic think

00:10:38.300 tank people coming in and trying to reshape the culture of the military. Yet none of the

00:10:45.100 people who were responsible for creating this training ever served in the military. So

00:10:49.840 they don't understand the culture, you know, and what I found really interesting about, um,

00:10:55.420 your colleague in the article that, that was, was put out, you know, you've got these academics

00:11:00.280 who are academically tied to the defense academy in Kingston. Yet I see no evidence that they

00:11:06.720 actually ever served in uniform. So how is it that they are trying to reshape currently the

00:11:12.820 culture of the military? We're in, in the past, they've never even been part of it. And this

00:11:17.320 is a problem when academics try to get involved in a culture that they don't fully appreciate

00:11:22.600 because they haven't even so much as done basic training. Now I've done basic training once in

00:11:27.760 the reserves. And then as an officer, I had to redo it. And yes, there are training evolutions you go

00:11:33.280 through. Um, annually, there are some things, but it's never been as obvious and egregious as it is

00:11:40.780 right now, where they've gone so far to attack things like, you know, even masculinity. I mean,

00:11:48.100 I'm sorry, but we need, we need aggressive men and women in uniform who do the business of violence. 0.94

00:11:56.160 Okay. And I find, you know, you, you raise the example of the, uh, you know, the tattoos and the

00:12:03.240 dyed hair and the, even the nail polish and earring in my day, that was absolutely unheard of. Okay. You,

00:12:09.400 you had to be focused on the business of war, not the, the, the business of social engineering,

00:12:16.260 like we're seeing right now. And yes, this has slowly been creeping in over, over years,

00:12:22.380 but since this current liberal government has gone in, they have completely terraformed the

00:12:27.320 Canadian armed forces into something very, um, non, non-serious, non-serious. I mean,

00:12:34.260 if Canada were to go to war today, who in the hell would be intimidated by the fact that the

00:12:39.660 Canadians are now coming? And I want to leave this one last point. Um, you know, Rommel had said the

00:12:45.760 perfect military, the, the most deadly military in the world would have been German officers, 0.83

00:12:51.700 American equipment and Canadian soldiers. And I don't think that equation holds true

00:12:57.920 any longer, unfortunately. Yeah. And, and to your point about masculinity, I, I'm not sure any

00:13:03.040 Afghan, Afghan girls that had an education for the first time in their lives, uh, because of the 1.00

00:13:08.500 Canadian military and other allied forces there. I don't think they were complaining about toxic

00:13:12.380 masculinity when the soldiers came to town, uh, against the Taliban, just to give one recent

00:13:18.100 example here. Uh, drew, you, you got cut off by technology there. We were talking about kind

00:13:22.580 of when this started and I'm curious about your experience here. Yeah. So I got out just over,

00:13:27.320 uh, two years ago and the anti-racism in DEI training was just starting to trickle in. Uh,

00:13:34.400 you know, I was someone who was told that, uh, I had to go into the communist style struggle

00:13:39.160 sessions where they said, Oh, y'all white men, bad, not even be putting on by better or sort of

00:13:44.100 current military members. It was being put on by, you know, government, you know, they're bureaucrats

00:13:49.460 and stuff who were coming down and doing this training in academia. And, and really in six years,

00:13:54.240 we have seen three instances of right-wing extremism or white supremacy in the calf. It was,

00:14:00.140 uh, Patrick Matthews, Boris, Mihalovic, and then the proud boy incident in 2017. That's three incidents

00:14:06.800 from my last year at the recruiting center in Toronto, we saw three instances of attacks on

00:14:12.540 our recruiting center. Two were by, um, uh, I guess when I say jihadi type attacks, and one was done

00:14:20.280 by a left-wing, uh, Antifa woman. And the media wasn't down there reporting on those, but you can

00:14:25.620 sure believe if it was some sort of white, white, uh, supremacist attack on our recruiting center,

00:14:30.580 they would have been down there reporting it. So they've been pushing this bogus narrative for a

00:14:35.280 while. And you can talk to any current serving member where Al's at an all time low because of

00:14:41.700 these commie style struggle sessions is being forced on them. That's not what the job of the military is.

00:14:47.720 If you ask an infantry, their job is to close with and destroy the enemy. They don't care who's beside

00:14:53.660 them as long as they're well-trained and they can trust them with their lives. So this has been coming

00:14:58.000 and it's going to continue to come. And there's no pushback from senior leadership, uh, within the

00:15:04.800 military. I have an email chain saved that I had with the vice admiral where he was telling me to

00:15:09.720 read anti-racist by Ibrahim X. Kendi. And I read it and I pushed back him and said, this goes completely

00:15:17.260 against the ethos of the Canadian armed forces. So we're going to continue to see this and we get

00:15:23.460 all sorts of tips and emails from serving members telling us the stuff that they have to go through.

00:15:28.860 And that's why they're, uh, the attrition rate is three times the regular rate. And that's why

00:15:34.200 guys like me who, uh, released earlier getting out because it's just, uh, it's just nonsense. And

00:15:39.780 it's, uh, we're not like a, the Canadian forces in the passport office. Okay. We are completely

00:15:44.860 different entity in society. And, uh, there's just so much creep, uh, that's stuff that's crept in from

00:15:51.820 the likes of, you know, Barbara Perry and, um, the Ontario technical Institute. And they, they just

00:15:58.040 gave a bunch of money to a man named Andy Knight, who was at university of Alberta professor, who's

00:16:02.940 going to study white, white supremacy in the Canadian forces. So it's just a false and bogus

00:16:08.860 narrative in my opinion.

00:16:10.320 Is your sense, Tom, that the military leadership have bought into this, or are they just basically

00:16:16.820 taking their marching orders from cabinet and government or seeing the writing on the wall

00:16:21.520 and, and that this is the way things are going?

00:16:24.540 Yeah, absolutely. I do believe that the senior leadership of the Canadian forces has bought

00:16:29.340 completely into this. And, you know, I tweeted about this yesterday where, you know, there was,

00:16:34.660 um, the American veterans and currently serving members have created this declaration of accountability

00:16:40.940 where, you know, um, there, there's a group of over 200, I believe 230, uh, currently serving in re, uh,

00:16:50.240 retired American veterans who want accountability against the joint chiefs of staff for all of their

00:16:56.160 actions, uh, during COVID. And, um, you know, my tweet was actually about the same thing is that the

00:17:03.580 Canadian armed forces members, um, had the same, have the same duty. I mean, you learn this in basic

00:17:10.380 training in the first week when you're covering military law, you as a subordinate, uh, rank when

00:17:17.600 you're trained, have a duty to report a crime if you witness it being committed. And if so actually

00:17:23.860 lay charges. And that doesn't matter if the person committing the crime is of a higher rank than you,

00:17:29.120 you've got a duty to take action because, you know, it's a professional organization with its own,

00:17:34.820 uh, body of laws. It's got its own criminal justice system. It has its own mechanisms to deal 0.95

00:17:39.860 with these things. And the fact that it right now, the currently serving military members have never

00:17:47.380 taken their superior officers to task tells you, it speaks volumes about the, the state of, um,

00:17:54.980 buy-in from senior leaders who are protecting their careers, not the integrity of the institution of the

00:18:02.920 Canadian armed forces, but they're protecting their careers. They're not risking their pensions or their

00:18:07.720 livelihoods or their reputations on pushing back against this ideology. And I think that that in

00:18:13.740 itself is a massive leader of failure or a failure of leadership on, on behalf of, let's say,

00:18:20.680 Lieutenant colonels and above, or even majors who are the first rank of senior officer. Very few instances

00:18:26.400 we've seen this. Um, I can think of one major that did a video in uniform where you push back against

00:18:32.720 the actions of the senior leadership of the forces, but that's the only example I can come up with.

00:18:38.320 And, you know, I believe some people should stay in and fight from the inside, try to make it better.

00:18:44.000 But the reality is that the best people are going to get out of the way. They're going to leave the

00:18:48.160 military in the garbage is going to percolate to the top and they're going to occupy those senior

00:18:53.280 positions within the Canadian forces. And they will remain beholden to the liberal party of Canada, 0.93

00:18:59.760 Canada, not to Canadians, not to the institution of the Canadian armed forces. That's where their

00:19:06.400 loyalties are going to lie in their next promotion. And their next promotion is going to be contingent

00:19:11.600 on how woke you are and how much you abide by this gender ideology and all these other things,

00:19:17.600 right? I mean, we, we have quotas, 25% of all the occupations we want to fill by women. 1.00

00:19:24.080 That's not based on capability. That's based on this bizarre quota of what your gender is and what 0.83

00:19:31.360 your skin color is. It's not based on capability. And the, you know, up until recently, the fundamental 0.91

00:19:41.040 idea was that your capabilities were what earned you the position within the Canadian armed forces.

00:19:46.800 You know, you don't have the right to join the Canadian armed forces. You have the right to apply.

00:19:52.080 You don't have to be accepted, but to be accepted, you have to meet a minimum standard. And Drew could

00:19:56.560 probably talk about what's happening now with the CFAT score, which is the Canadian forces

00:20:01.040 aptitude test. So, you know, I do think that there's some nefarious things happening so that

00:20:06.880 senior officers can get promoted into more advanced positions than they currently hold.

00:20:11.760 Well, yeah. And obviously if we are embracing diversity and DEI and anti-whiteness 0.97

00:20:17.600 and anti-colonialism and all of this, which you clearly are, we see this in the documentation,

00:20:22.640 it stands to reason that that's going to become at the core of hiring and promotion practices. And

00:20:28.880 I mean, obviously, no true meritocracy really exists. There are always biases and nepotism and

00:20:35.600 things that can seep their way in. But the idea that senior military strategists or people who are

00:20:41.120 supposed to be strategists are going to be decided based on how many diversity checkboxes you can

00:20:46.400 tick isn't really all that far off, is it, Drew? I mean, and you think, I mean, this is the whole

00:20:50.880 point of that intersectionality idea that these academics who have never served, as Tom points out,

00:20:56.080 are talking about here. It said, oh, well, yeah, this guy may have led, you know, 20 successful

00:21:00.640 campaigns, but oh, this one's a transgendered indigenous person in a wheelchair. This is our

00:21:04.880 our new admiral. No, exactly. And I'll just touch base on one thing that Tom said is the difference.

00:21:11.520 So we know and we're, I guess, partnered with the American guys who put forth that military

00:21:18.880 accountability document. The difference down there is they actually have senior officers who are signed

00:21:24.960 on to this, guys with credibility and who are known within the community. With V4F, we're at over 3,000

00:21:30.800 members. We have a handful of four ringers, so either captain navies or colonels, but we've never,

00:21:37.760 we haven't had any sort of major general or admiral push back and step up. Now, General Mason has been

00:21:45.120 doing some good work. He's been speaking out against sort of the wokeness effect in the CAF, which is great,

00:21:50.480 but there needs to be more senior officers and senior NCOs who speak out about this stuff.

00:21:57.120 And that's, sorry, what was your question again, Andrew? I guess I lost my train of thought.

00:22:02.720 I can't remember. Your answer was good enough, but I was basically just asking about whether

00:22:06.320 diversity, diversity hires are going to become the new norm with how things are going. And,

00:22:11.920 you know, the general, the vice admiral, all these leaders are not going to be people that were

00:22:16.960 these, you know, brilliant tacticians and strategists and operators, but are actually just going to be

00:22:22.080 people that are chosen for these intersectional diversity categories.

00:22:25.760 Yeah. So you're a hundred percent spot on. So when I was in recruiting, so I was a military

00:22:30.720 career counselor, I would really sign off, the guys sign off on the files to get them

00:22:35.280 sort of approved and onto the competition list, which has been watered down. But at that time,

00:22:40.640 women who were applying to the Canadian Armed Forces didn't have to pass the aptitude test to be 0.75

00:22:45.920 able to be approved and put on the thing. So they had lowered the standards there for women just to get 0.99

00:22:52.560 them on the list and how they actually select applicants, but that's a whole nother story.

00:22:58.240 It is now, this is something that we released on our social medias yesterday,

00:23:02.640 is for just under 50% of the trades in the Canadian Armed Forces, they've waived the requirement to pass

00:23:10.080 the Canadian Forces aptitude test. And that aptitude test tests you in three things. It tests you in

00:23:14.080 math, it tests you in English, tests you on your spatial awareness. And based on your scores,

00:23:19.760 it will dictate to us, the military career counselors, what occupations you're good for.

00:23:25.360 That's not even happening anymore. So 47 trades no longer require that aptitude test. Now I talked to

00:23:30.880 our source at CFRG, Canadian Forces Recruiting Group Headquarters, and he said that this is being done

00:23:37.600 for two reasons. One, to help push through the 2600 permanent residents who've applied to the Canadian

00:23:45.600 Armed Forces, and two, to help meet what we call EE employment equity quotas, which I believe is 25%

00:23:54.000 women. These are the goals, 25% women, 15% visible minority, and I think it's four or five percent

00:23:59.520 Indigenous. So they're lowering the standard of the troops in the military to help achieve the 1.00

00:24:08.000 their DEI targets, which is, you know, it's unacceptable. You never lower the standard,

00:24:14.480 especially when people's lives are on the line. I mean, that used to be when this came up with

00:24:18.800 firefighters years ago, this used to be the most obvious pushback on this, which is, you know,

00:24:23.520 someone like me doesn't drop 100 pounds if the firefighter is a woman. So this is, I think,

00:24:28.640 the painful reality here. Well, I'm glad you gentlemen are speaking up about this. Thank you for your

00:24:33.520 service and for your time today. Drew McGilvery from Veterans for Freedom and Tom Marazzo, also

00:24:38.320 from Veterans for Freedom, but also the author of the book, The People's Emergency Act. Thank you very

00:24:42.160 much, gentlemen. Thanks, Andrew. Thank you. Thanks for listening to The Andrew Lawton Show.

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Canadian military full of white supremacy, patriarchy, official journal claims

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