Juno News - Canadians say NO to electric vehicles

00:00:00.000 i think we should talk about the hole and noah's ceiling oh gosh this is a popular matter of

00:00:07.680 concern but i promise you guys it's not out of the norm i'm pretty sure many canadians

00:00:12.560 have holes in their roofs i don't know about that i think it's a lot less normal than you

00:00:17.840 seem to think it is like i think a mutant possum is going to swoop in on you in the middle of the

00:00:22.720 night through that you're going to wake up with like a little nest of baby raccoons in bed with

00:00:27.120 you i don't know maybe i haven't thought of raising a family of baby raccoons but maybe that'd be a

00:00:33.600 nice thing it's perhaps the actual kid raccoons get a bad rap but they're like super cute i know but

00:00:40.640 they're full of distemper no don't go near them they'll bite you yeah no back like rip your face

00:00:45.920 off i i'll pass but uh you know they fight like ninjas they should join the teenage mutant ninja

00:00:51.680 turtles all righty um are we finished do we want to get started on our actual show guys

00:00:55.840 hey my name is chris simms i'm the Alberta director for the Canadian taxpayers federation

00:01:07.920 i'm here with two of my very dear friends from true north here for off the record even though

00:01:12.160 we're actually on the internet don't ask me i didn't name the show so i wanted to get started

00:01:17.520 on electric vehicles or as a friend of mine like to call them battery powered cars because that's a

00:01:24.400 better mental image when i picture it i picture kind of like a toy so this is the thing uh number

00:01:30.400 one we're trying to spend a ton of money on these things number two it doesn't seem like people are

00:01:35.040 actually wanting to buy them and number three what i find really interesting is now we've done a poll

00:01:40.160 like a big honkin national leger poll and the majority of canadians don't want this electric vehicle mandate

00:01:48.720 so as of right now the trudeau government is going to ban the sale of normal vehicles of gasoline and

00:01:55.840 diesel powered vehicles and even some hybrids by the way by the year 2035 so meaning if you walk

00:02:02.720 yourself over to a car dealership and you want to buy a new vehicle in 10 years time which will go by like

00:02:08.640 that you are going to be forced to buy only a battery car you won't be allowed to buy a gasoline

00:02:15.120 diesel car turns out survey says then 60 of those decided of those decided say they don't want trudeau's

00:02:24.480 ev mandate um i did some follow-up research on this as well so number one the people don't want it and

00:02:30.320 then the main thing that i found is guys we just don't have energy for this rachel i don't know if

00:02:35.840 you're still hanging out here in alberta or if you're busy covering the united states election but

00:02:41.680 remember in the winter when we're all told not to plug in our hair dryer because we're gonna like

00:02:46.800 collapse the grid but we're all supposed to have electric cars we do not have the juice for this

00:02:51.200 we do not have the electricity for this or the money to to build new power plants what are you guys

00:02:57.200 hearing on things like electric vehicles and the fact government's trying to force them yeah so i mean

00:03:02.640 my perspective is similar to yours a little different in the sense that i do actually really like

00:03:08.160 the idea of an electric vehicle i think that if it was feasible for me i would love to have a tesla

00:03:13.760 actually i was just down in the states when you ask where i am i'm a little here a little there a

00:03:17.680 little everywhere i've been on the road basically non-stop for the last few months but i was just

00:03:21.840 down in florida and i actually saw uh the cyber truck the tesla cyber truck on two different occasions

00:03:27.600 and online you know it looks like a kind of bizarre looking vehicle anyways saw it in person

00:03:33.200 i actually thought it was pretty cool i was like i could see myself driving around one of those that

00:03:36.800 looks like an awesome vehicle i also really admire elon musk i would love to support his business

00:03:42.160 versus say toyota i currently drive a toyota i would love to get one of their little tacoma trucks

00:03:47.200 as my next vehicle but robbie starbuck he does really great work um sort of exposing woke companies

00:03:53.120 and it looks like toyota canada is really woke and pushing all this gender nonsense for surgeries for

00:03:59.120 staff for their staff's kids for gender reassignment surgeries which is let's just say what it is it's you

00:04:03.760 know telling people to chop off their little boys penises things like that so it makes me not want

00:04:08.080 to support those woke crappy companies meanwhile i could support something like tesla so i like the

00:04:12.880 idea of electric vehicle i think it would be cool i want to support elon musk's business that being said

00:04:18.560 my biggest concern is that living in alberta primarily it just doesn't really seem very reasonable

00:04:24.640 for me to be driving an electric vehicle you know i've heard that they don't really have the greatest

00:04:28.960 battery length in our cold cold winters and i already hate stopping to fuel up and i only

00:04:34.960 currently have to fuel up like once a week maybe every two weeks right now so if all of a sudden

00:04:39.120 i'm in a situation where i'm constantly having to think about charging my vehicle that's just gonna

00:04:43.600 drive me nuts and so for me you know i need to be practical that's like the primary thing i don't

00:04:47.840 want to be spending all this extra time thinking about when i would have to when i would have to charge

00:04:52.000 my vehicle and then the other thing that you mentioned is in alberta every winter it seems now we're

00:04:56.560 under threat of rolling brownouts where the government is telling us we actually don't

00:05:01.520 have enough baseload power and if you guys don't turn off your hair dryers at home if you don't

00:05:06.640 turn off your lights at home we're gonna have to start having rolling brownouts across the province

00:05:11.120 where we're actually going to cut your electricity for a few hours to make sure that everyone can have

00:05:16.160 a little electricity and that no one freezes to death essentially because they're out of power for so

00:05:20.880 long and so for me you know i just don't think it's the most practical thing for me to have in

00:05:25.440 alberta maybe that will change in years to come maybe the technology will improve so that battery

00:05:29.920 life is a little longer but even that being said that is a unique thing that's my decision i personally

00:05:35.760 think that the cyber truck is cool i think maybe one day i'd like to have one my mom on the other

00:05:40.080 hand she was sitting next to me in the vehicle and she was like that's the ugliest truck i've ever seen 1.00

00:05:43.120 in my life it looks absolutely ridiculous uh she she's not interested you know so i think that's 0.99

00:05:48.640 important that we have those options in a place like canada such a wealthy country there's no

00:05:52.640 reason that we should be telling people you have to drive that type of vehicle or this one canada's

00:05:56.640 an amazing country we have so much wealth and opportunities here i think the benefit of living

00:06:00.720 in a place like this is the opportunity and the decisions that we get to make so no i'm not really

00:06:04.480 interested in the government telling me what type of vehicle i have to drive i don't think other

00:06:07.920 canadians are us are either noah what's your take on this yeah i think rachel bring up some good uh

00:06:13.840 points in the sense that like we we have to consider the practical reality of implementing such a ban i mean

00:06:20.960 we do not have the energy required and the capacity to generate such energy in order to you know

00:06:26.560 support millions upon millions of electric vehicles on our streets and as it is we don't even have the

00:06:32.320 infrastructure for your average canadian to feel comfortable buying an electric vehicle because a

00:06:38.480 lot of the time they're not going to be able to find an electric vehicle charger especially in more

00:06:43.200 rural parts of the country and as rachel mentioned in more rural and northern parts of the country where it

00:06:48.800 gets quite cold especially in alberta i see you guys getting like negative 50 in like the middle

00:06:54.800 of february you know as an ontarian i see those digits i you know shrivel up a little bit in fear

00:07:00.400 but you know like so do the teslas and so do the electric vehicles their uh energy capacity their

00:07:07.120 battery capacity can sometimes diminish by around 30 to even 40 percent which if you are buying a electric

00:07:14.320 vehicle or any vehicle for that matter you need your vehicle to be reliable you need to reliably able

00:07:20.080 to take your vehicle to work or do work with your vehicle if that's what uh you are doing and also

00:07:26.320 just a basic part of reality is that canadians they don't want this and if you're going to force such

00:07:31.760 a ban on canadians then you're probably going to not be able to execute such a policy properly for example

00:07:38.320 what do you do after the ban uh goes through uh and with the all the classic cars and you know the

00:07:45.360 sort of gas guzzling cars that people have collected i mean it in the liberal government's argument in

00:07:51.280 the liberal government's world view such cards are still contributing to climate change and pollution

00:07:56.960 so are the is the government going to come after your classic cars and you're just all your gas power

00:08:01.920 cars next furthermore uh people are just going to continue to buy used uh gas powered vehicles

00:08:10.400 because electric vehicles cost more and especially since we are going through a cost of living crisis

00:08:15.920 in this country people are more often not going to spend within their means and they are going to

00:08:22.640 buy you know the used cars and to the liberal government's chagrin so i really believe that this is not

00:08:29.200 only a dumb policy that me and my friends definitely do not like because we like our gas power cars and

00:08:35.200 we like to hear the engine you know you know make loud noises because you know it's just something like

00:08:40.400 a masculine urge but uh you know like it's a matter of personal choice freedom and also practical reality

00:08:47.200 and the liberal government they fail on both of those fronts and the money involved in this if i can just

00:08:52.320 go over some of the numbers um so with the federal government they're dumping around 30 billion

00:09:00.080 into this into ev manufacturing and battery manufacturing um and i will point out these

00:09:05.600 are mega international corporations that do not need taxpayers funding they do not need taxpayers help

00:09:11.200 we're talking volkswagen ford you know tons and tons of these companies if you add in what the ontario

00:09:17.760 taxpayer is coughing up the total now is around 50 billion dollars with a b to put that into perspective

00:09:25.600 it costs around 1 billion to build a hospital so you're picturing 50 hospitals now um if you get

00:09:32.720 into the real numbers uh so we found a study from natural resources canada okay the federal government

00:09:39.600 itself out loud with its face saying that by i think 2035 2040 that this mandate this forced electric

00:09:48.800 vehicle mandate from the federal government will cost around 300 billion dollars that's insane yeah we

00:09:56.160 don't have the money for that and so that number was huge and so i dug into it more i'm like okay let's

00:10:01.600 get right down to brass tacks i want megawatts i want kilowatts let's see what this is and i worked it out and

00:10:07.200 yeah it's right so based on if if say we had we have around 24 million cars and trucks right now in canada

00:10:16.160 so i'm talking vehicles that are gasoline powered cars and light duty pickup trucks not talking about

00:10:21.760 the semi trucks that deliver all of our food okay just personal cars 24 million if we shifted all of

00:10:29.440 those over at midnight in 2035 over to electric we would need 20 new big nuclear power plants just to 0.63

00:10:39.840 power that fleet of vehicles you do the math yeah that's around 300 billion dollars so we do not have

00:10:47.760 the energy and we don't have the money to build the energy for this thing it seems like the trudeau

00:10:53.280 government didn't really think this through before they went for it um did we want to move over to

00:10:57.840 the carbon tax here rachel well i think that's another interesting kind of point to raise because

00:11:02.720 it all ties together when we talk about this electric vehicle mandate the trudeau government that isn't

00:11:07.680 the only means that they're pressuring people to move over into electric vehicles sure they have

00:11:11.600 this mandate they're warning people you know you're not going to be able to buy gas powered vehicles

00:11:16.240 at the same time they're really trying to price consumers out of being able to afford gas powered

00:11:21.920 vehicles with things like the carbon tax and we know that this is a hot button issue it's really

00:11:27.040 what the conservative party has made one of their like platform policies is affordability

00:11:31.600 centered around the carbon tax and you know it seems that every opportunity one conservative government

00:11:36.960 or opposition party in the in the province is trying to kind of bring canadians attention back

00:11:41.520 to the carbon tax and the harmful impacts of it again so we know that the supreme court ruled a few

00:11:46.400 years back that it was constitutional when we saw that challenge from a number of provinces

00:11:50.240 now new brunswick premier blaine higgs is once again renewing that challenge to say that the carbon tax

00:11:56.240 is is not constitutional he's seeking to bring a legal challenge against it once again um and you know he's

00:12:03.760 doing this as the province nears an election so probably trying to remind voters that some of the

00:12:10.080 the issues that they're feeling in the pocket not the not the problem of his government per se um but

00:12:16.400 this is a little bit of a different challenge than what we've seen in the past chris perhaps you want

00:12:20.160 to go ahead and explain what you've noticed to be different from this challenge versus what we've seen

00:12:24.080 in the past yeah for sure so i'm from british columbia uh but i worked on parliament hill for 20

00:12:30.160 something years so my experience of the carbon tax has been primarily the provincial version of it

00:12:35.360 so they have to keep it at the same rate as the federal government but there's different uh car

00:12:40.560 votes and things like that and so what i find really interesting here is that the new brunswick

00:12:45.840 government they're under the yoke of the federal carbon tax and what they're highlighting and now i'm

00:12:51.600 hearing premier daniel smith highlighting is hey this isn't just you know 13 bucks every minivan or 20 bucks

00:12:58.320 every pickup truck what about the schools what about the ambulance fleets what about the downloaded

00:13:04.560 costs of the carbon tax onto keeping this major infrastructure up and running and heated with the

00:13:10.400 lights on so here in alberta a lot of our electrical power talk about plugging in your vehicle a lot of

00:13:16.480 our electrical power comes from natural gas and so if you have a natural gas bill here in the province

00:13:22.880 of alberta you pay a carbon tax so it's really interesting to hear the language coming out of higgs

00:13:30.000 and also coming from premier smith saying hey it's more than just the average person driving or heating

00:13:35.920 their home you're having a knock-on effect of higher costs here and we're going to fight you

00:13:41.120 so we are urging every single premier in every single province to jump in on this fight uh we want

00:13:48.320 them elbows up we want them pushing back against against prime minister justin trudeau's carbon tax

00:13:53.600 i'm expecting that premier daniel smith and alberta will jump into this court fight any second now

00:14:01.120 yeah so go ahead noah well yeah and just from a legal perspective i think that over the past few years

00:14:08.640 we've seen the trudeau government undermine the argument for the carbon tax being constitutionally

00:14:15.520 valid in so far as the supreme court ruled in part that the carbon tax was justified under the

00:14:23.040 reasoning that the carbon emissions is a matter of national concern and that provinces individually

00:14:30.560 cannot address this issue and that a federal statute needed to be devised in order to regulate carbon

00:14:37.200 emissions in canada but the problem is that if this was a matter of such grave national concern

00:14:43.440 you wouldn't be giving out carve outs to certain provinces and you wouldn't be giving out carbon

00:14:48.640 carve outs on certain products because this is just a matter of grave national concern

00:14:54.080 and if you are giving out certain carve outs to some people why not give it to others if you're

00:14:58.480 giving out carve outs to the maritimers on their home heating oil why aren't you giving it out to the

00:15:04.000 albertans or why don't you give it to the british colombians or ontarians i mean it is perfectly

00:15:09.840 evident that the carbon tax is something that the federal government is trying to impose as something

00:15:16.000 that is an existential threat but they're not treating it as existential threat they're just

00:15:19.840 treating it as another revenue generating mechanism and you know they're really promoting the idea that

00:15:25.840 you're going to get more money that you put into the carbon tax you know even though it's a false

00:15:30.320 notion that has been repeatedly debunked especially by the parliamentary budget officer but nonetheless the

00:15:36.400 true to government still tries to push this line so i think the true government they've definitely

00:15:41.120 undermined the idea that you know the reducing greenhouse gas emissions is a matter of national

00:15:46.480 concern and they've undermined the argument that provinces are not capable of doing this because

00:15:51.440 we see provinces uh attempting to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in a variety of ways i mean alberta is

00:15:58.880 one of the provinces that talks the most about carbon capture because you know they understand the

00:16:04.640 idea that you know reducing greenhouse gas emissions is a popular sentiment within the canadian public

00:16:10.000 and people want to see action on that so i think that yeah when you see uh the federal government

00:16:16.880 undermining their own argument on the carbon tax uh you're going to have provinces jump on that

00:16:21.840 opportunity and new brunswick doing so by taking the government to court is something that i think a lot

00:16:27.840 of canadians are happy to see right very well said no other treating it as uh really a um general

00:16:34.320 a revenue generating stream and then they're also conveniently treating it as an election issue

00:16:39.200 by carving out these exemptions for certain provinces where it's going to be particularly

00:16:43.680 expensive particularly unpopular for their mps of course the liberals aren't the only one treating

00:16:48.480 it as an election issue um you know now we know that ndp leader jagmeet singh has come out and says

00:16:54.880 you know he doesn't really agree with the carbon pricing regime anymore um i mean it's just when we

00:17:00.320 talk about disingenuous politicians like jagmeet singh is one of those people who makes me want to

00:17:04.080 go like full black pill like politics is meaningless none of this matters like he's such a frustrating

00:17:09.200 person and it's like so ridiculous that he's actually a political leader who has as much sway

00:17:14.480 and is like much of discussion in the national news scene as he is because he's like so disingenuous 0.53

00:17:20.320 and like so useless at his job but here we are talking about him once again because unfortunately as

00:17:25.040 it currently stands he's still a news maker and i guess we still have to discuss the things that he says

00:17:29.200 um even though i don't know that he believes any of it to be honest but he he said he doesn't

00:17:32.800 support the carbon pricing regime now the liberals are accusing him of falling for conservative

00:17:37.200 propaganda obviously he was just looking at his internal polling like come on but uh now the the

00:17:42.000 liberal ministers are offering to meet with him and i guess essentially correct his wrong thing i don't

00:17:47.120 know what do you guys what do you guys make of this like this is all this to me just is all like the

00:17:50.720 worst type of politics like it's all such meaningless news headlines you're trying to deceive the

00:17:55.760 people like i just am so sick of these types of stories like i just can't handle this government

00:17:59.680 anymore yeah that sounds very black pill um for folks who are watching who don't understand what

00:18:05.040 the heck we're talking about with the black pill red pill blue pill i get this question quite a bit

00:18:09.920 actually when we go out amongst normal people and they watch our shows so a red pill blue pill that's

00:18:16.320 from the movie the matrix so go back and watch it keanu reeves it's an amazing movie and the idea is if

00:18:23.040 you're red pilled you wake up and you actually see the patterns going on and you see what the

00:18:28.400 government in this case is up to blue pill means i'd rather not i'm just gonna stay blissfully unaware

00:18:34.480 and pretend i think black pill rachel um is that you're kind of borderline despair so i do want to

00:18:42.080 pull you back from the black pill brink i think what's not just the despair that i feel is like i think

00:18:49.600 what most of canadians are feeling like i think we have a story about like the fatigue the canadians

00:18:54.400 are feeling like i'm with you all like i just cannot handle the fake news headlines that like

00:19:00.160 actually have no impact on our lives like things not improving people like jagmeet singh polling

00:19:05.200 their supply conference agreement but they're really not pulling it like they're never gonna have an

00:19:09.200 election i think noah you can speak more to this about canadians fatigue like i'm right there with

00:19:14.800 you with the rest of you like this is just tiring parliament's clearly not working like when we get

00:19:20.080 to this place in politics which does happen i would say every few years maybe even every you know every

00:19:25.520 decade if we want to be generous where the people who are elected to represent us just can no longer

00:19:30.400 work together and there's just so much friction and so much disagreement and it feels like such a

00:19:34.800 toxic place like it really just is time for an election that we don't have to stay in this place

00:19:38.960 but i think the place that i'm in and the the sort of the despair and the discouragement that i'm

00:19:43.520 feeling about our political scene is like the natural things that happens in a political cycle

00:19:48.720 and i think it's like something a lot of people are feeling right now yeah i i think so you know

00:19:53.680 after about 10 years usually a government starts to you know loses popularity and luster but even

00:19:59.840 the trudeau government is really really pushing it when it comes to uh just how unpopular they are

00:20:04.960 and jagme singh is definitely uh not helping you know it's it's funny because jagme singh in title

00:20:10.960 is the leader of the ndp but he's anything but a leader i mean he is the definition of a follower

00:20:17.120 i mean if you go back and listen to jagme singh when he's first becoming the leader of the ndp he

00:20:21.600 gave this interview where he basically said before he was getting into politics he had to you know

00:20:26.240 pick and choose uh like you know ordering off a menu which political party was going to join should i

00:20:31.040 join the conservatives the liberals the ndp you know i'm not sure and then you know let's pick like uh

00:20:36.320 like like you're ordering at a restaurant it's like do you have no values do you just like go

00:20:40.720 wherever the wind is blowing uh and you know on the matter of the carbon tax he has not been a

00:20:46.320 leader on this issue at all he just follows the trudeau government uh with their carbon tax regime

00:20:52.240 and then he's following other ndp leaders who are saying hey the carbon tax is not working out for us

00:20:57.840 during the alberta ndp leadership contest you've had several leadership content contestants that have said

00:21:04.400 that hey you know maybe the carbon tax isn't such a good idea you know you start to see uh premier

00:21:10.560 david ebbe start to tone his rhetoric down on the carbon tax uh you also have uh other ndp leaders

00:21:18.080 like wab canoe uh who is also not totally in favor of a carbon tax and you have uh plenty of other uh

00:21:25.440 premiers who are not in favor of carbon tax the jenny scene just is just following the canadian

00:21:29.120 sentiment and believes that hey you know supporting the carbon tax a few years ago was

00:21:34.240 politically favorable for me and now it's not so now i'm not going to uh support the carbon tax he

00:21:39.120 has he shows no leadership whatsoever and he you know just follows other people that's why

00:21:46.000 the canadians have had to deal with this trudeau government for as long as we've had because he

00:21:50.000 doesn't have the stones in order to call for an election and basically you know take some leadership

00:21:56.240 and try and take his message to the canadian people and try and get elected on that basis but he has no

00:22:02.160 real message to deliver to the canadian people because he's a hollow husk of a man 1.00

00:22:07.760 if he wanted to follow uh an ndp leader on the issue of the carbon tax he could crack open his very

00:22:14.560 recent party history books and the late former leader of the federal ndp jack layton was opposed

00:22:21.200 to the carbon tax he said so repeatedly you can go back and find it it's a globe and mail article it's

00:22:26.640 from 2008 he said very clearly that it is unfair to punish people in a big cold country like canada

00:22:33.440 for heating their homes and then it's also really unfair to make certain items more expensive because

00:22:38.560 you know what ding ding ding it'll hurt poor people and the working class the most and he was bang on

00:22:45.040 the nose on that in fact i'm old enough to remember i booked him for the show to talk about stuff like

00:22:50.800 this so we talked about it so he can go back to the og stance on the carbon tax of the ndp which was

00:22:59.760 against it in fact you mentioned david eby the original british columbia ndp when the carbon tax was

00:23:07.040 first hatched in north america in british columbia in 2008 they opposed the carbon tax so much they ran a

00:23:15.120 campaign on it during the election the campaign slogan i kid you not was axe the tax it's amazing

00:23:25.040 how if you wait around long enough the same old thing comes back into vogue i did want to raise this

00:23:31.360 issue of gibo's new like i don't know what you would call it a re-education camp or something that

00:23:37.360 is offering people on the carbon tax but before we do that to your point on how much money this thing

00:23:42.880 brings in i actually i went in and dug through the federal budget which by the way is a dumpster

00:23:47.760 fire it's terrible provincial budgets very clear almost all math almost all graphs there is so much

00:23:54.480 filler in the provincial in the federal budget it's almost impossible to pull up the actual stats but i

00:24:00.240 found it so the carbon tax this year in canada will pull in close to 13 billion dollars federally

00:24:10.880 into federal government coffers but get this so you guys have both read budget documents you know how

00:24:16.640 you can find like the revenue right and you go along the line item and usually you could look for

00:24:22.240 something like carbon tax or carbon levy this is what the trudeau government called it as their line

00:24:27.760 item i'm going to read it quote pollution pricing proceeds to be returned to canadians end quote

00:24:34.080 like well chris they need that 13 billion dollars to buy tampons for men so it's like totally fair 0.88

00:24:42.080 i'm so glad they have my money for that like it's it's insane how like so many bodies are just trying

00:24:47.360 to like revit like you know do this revisionist history thing and like oh the carbon tax is not

00:24:51.680 actually a tax yeah like like the supreme court for example ruled that it's not a tax it's a regulatory

00:24:57.440 levy oh wow big difference here sort of like how how in alberta there was no vaccine mandate you know

00:25:06.640 it was like a vaccine exemption passport pass or something you know it's like all it's just like

00:25:12.640 it's just a fancy euphemism for being exactly what you think it is it's ultimately just deception like

00:25:18.560 it's just deceiving the canadian people on what it actually is and you know like it's kind of funny to

00:25:23.840 you know read you know how absurd you know the calling it the the whatever you said chris um but

00:25:30.880 pollution pricing proceeds to be returned to canadians yeah like that's kind of funny 10 times fast

00:25:39.360 but you know it's kind of dark in the sense that i know give me that blackmail bottle blatantly trying

00:25:46.480 to deceive you and lie to your face that it's insane and you know obviously that does not take into

00:25:51.360 consideration all the administrative costs it requires uh on behalf of revenue canada and stuff

00:25:57.040 in order to administer the carbon tax so you're actually paying out of paying more uh for the

00:26:01.760 carbon tax you know if you account for the bureaucracy but you know the federal government

00:26:06.160 is obviously not going to tell you that no and don't forget the tax on tax sorry to really

00:26:11.920 shove that black pill further down your throat rachel but we pay the tax on tax so we do the carbon tax and 0.99

00:26:17.200 then they add the gst after so we're paying a tax on the carbon tax and it is hundreds of millions of

00:26:22.800 dollars this is not a couple of nickels here and there it is huge money can we pull up that uh i

00:26:28.720 think we have the letter is this a letter did did the environment minister actually send this to jagmeet

00:26:34.720 singh whoever wants to take this away you can go ahead and read it i do not want to read it i'll just

00:26:39.760 put that out there okay no fair enough so my understanding is this comes from the environment

00:26:45.520 minister stefan guibo uh who by the way was not at the announcement when they announced the carve

00:26:51.440 out for home heating oil i'll just point that out there he was one of the few cabinet ministers that

00:26:55.200 wasn't there um so this is his sternly worded letter i think it's three pages but he sent to jagmeet

00:27:01.840 singh because all jagmeet singh did which was interesting was muse out loud of perhaps it's no longer a

00:27:09.600 good idea to put the burden of the carbon tax onto the back of working people and it resulted in 0.91

00:27:14.640 this letter so the liberals are big mad about losing a bit of ground on the carbon tax um and they're

00:27:23.280 so upset and so big mad that they're going to send a strongly worded letter to jagmeet singh

00:27:28.080 saying you really need to fall back in line on the carbon tax but i don't think that's going to happen

00:27:32.560 when you have someone as strident a carbon tax cheerleader as ndp leader slash premier

00:27:39.360 david eby now saying oh well if the feds get rid of theirs their backstop their mandatory one

00:27:46.480 will get rid of the consumer carbon tax in british columbia like a few months ago it was the same

00:27:53.680 sorts of people in british columbia and not him himself because i can't find the quote but the same

00:27:58.640 crowd would call you horrible things for saying we shouldn't have a carbon tax in bc they would accuse

00:28:05.280 you of you know not caring about lytton they would call you a climate change denier which by the way

00:28:10.480 is a disgusting term and people shouldn't put up with it um so now all of a sudden it's too expensive

00:28:16.880 for people because people can't afford food they can't afford rent and they can't afford to heat

00:28:22.160 their homes or to drive to work in bc it is so unaffordable in that province the carbon taxes are a big

00:28:28.080 reason why and now all of a sudden david eby is saying you know what maybe we should get rid of

00:28:33.520 it if he is seeing the light and saying you know what maybe this is a big deal i think it's just a

00:28:40.000 matter of time before we actually do get mr singh saying you know what we can't do this anymore

00:28:45.840 because you're right rachel they would have seen internal polling they read the newspapers they read

00:28:50.560 the editorial section they get letters and emails hello all the time and i think they're eventually

00:28:56.000 just going to crack on this did we want to move on to your issue here noah i don't even know about

00:29:01.760 this so it's the sdtc documents that you've got what's going on there yeah so uh just some background

00:29:10.240 uh about a year ago it was revealed that this crown corporation sustainable development technology

00:29:16.400 canada uh their board of directors and their executives has basically been uh engaging in

00:29:23.120 misconduct and corporate mismanagement some could even say corruption uh regarding with how uh taxpayer

00:29:29.840 funds were being used for example they were giving out hundreds of millions of dollars to companies

00:29:35.520 that they were associated with other companies that they had uh investments in whether it's companies

00:29:41.520 that they had uh connections with whether that they they worked at such a company or they have friends

00:29:47.760 that work there and ultimately uh the ethics commissioner and the auditor general found gross mismanagement

00:29:54.480 and misconduct uh they found that they uh the board several board of directors had violated the conflict

00:30:00.640 of interest act uh and i have done some reporting on this matter where i basically found that one of the

00:30:07.760 board of directors her name's annette verschuren uh she had basically invested in third about 13 of the 0.66

00:30:14.080 companies uh that s uh that sdtc had given um money to and what that's you know hundreds of millions of

00:30:20.720 dollars um or you know grants in the tens of thousands of dollars so uh sdtc has been going through the

00:30:26.960 ringer uh their president had to step down several of their board of directors had to step down their board

00:30:32.560 of directors has pretty much been wiped out and the federal government has decommissioned sdtc as it

00:30:39.680 stands because the corruption uh just goes so deep uh and it is pretty much uh you can't salvage uh this

00:30:48.960 crown corporation so the opposition as they are doing their job they have requested documents uh from

00:30:55.360 the trudeau government uh they basically requested all of the financial records of sdtc the funding

00:31:01.040 agreements uh that they had with the federal government because they had violated many of the funding

00:31:06.160 agreements with the federal government and also they wanted correspondence meeting notes amongst the

00:31:11.040 board of directors etc etc and they wanted to hand those documents over to the rcmp the house of

00:31:17.920 commons they have the absolute power to request documents from the federal government so long it

00:31:23.760 is not a matter of national security concern however the trudeau government has basically defied parliament

00:31:30.560 and basically said that they are above the law that they will not be handing over uh these documents

00:31:36.560 and the speaker of the house of commons a liberal mp greg fergus has ruled that yes the trudeau government

00:31:43.920 is in contempt of parliament and they ought to hand over those documents to the opposition who will then

00:31:51.360 hand over those documents to the rcmp the speaker is going to urge the conservative party to pass a motion

00:31:58.560 in parliament to get the matter studied in committee first uh but the conservatives are under no

00:32:03.760 obligation to do this so it seems as if the liberals are very very concerned at covering up their scandals

00:32:11.520 and you know the basically corruption that has been rife uh in their government we also see in this

00:32:16.800 attempt when they tried to take the speaker to court over the national microbiology laboratory um so it just

00:32:25.680 seems like they just have a contempt uh for openness and transparency uh the openness and transparency

00:32:32.080 that they campaigned on in 2015. what do you guys think about the story that is more than having a

00:32:36.560 contempt more than having contempt for openness and transparency they have a contempt for canadians

00:32:41.600 they're taxing canadians to death money's flying out the door money is rolling out of the door faster

00:32:46.880 than it ever has and it's going to friends friends of people in the liberal government friends of

00:32:51.440 people on these crown corporations family people in these crown corporations it's just so exhausting

00:32:55.920 to listen to these types of stories time and time again why are the people responsible here not being

00:33:00.320 prosecuted they should be being criminally prosecuted for stealing money from canadians but we'd never see

00:33:05.040 that they at best get a slap on the wrist but people who are you know commit these types of crimes

00:33:10.160 steal money from canadians improperly award contracts to friends and family they're never actually held to

00:33:15.760 account in this country anymore that is great work noah um so i had been following this so now i really

00:33:22.480 remember this is all the major committee work that's been going on trying to drag these documents out of

00:33:27.360 out of this uh crown corporation you know um i've been in the game for a long time and i was there

00:33:33.120 during the so-called sponsorship scandal i was covering it on parliament hill an ad scam this would

00:33:37.920 have been all over the place like this would have been front page news every single day for weeks on end

00:33:44.080 people chasing cabinet ministers down the hall with live cameras rolling shouting questions at them

00:33:49.680 this is huge and to now see i think this is now to your point this is i think the second time i have

00:33:58.240 seen the speaker who's a liberal say um no you must cough this up you are in contempt of the house of

00:34:05.040 commons contempt of parliament unless you cough up this information and to see the liberal government

00:34:10.480 refusing so like again i think this is the second time i've seen this in a couple of years and i

00:34:15.600 don't remember ever seeing it before we've had some big dust-ups in the house of commons over the time

00:34:20.480 the mace was grabbed at one point when people were getting pretty rowdy in there but not like this

00:34:26.080 so good on you for keeping track of this from what i can tell it's largely the conservatives driving the

00:34:32.400 bus on this in the committee or is the ndp do we know not to spring you on this um is the ndp and block

00:34:39.040 chiming in on this and committee saying yeah you better cough up these documents sometimes they do

00:34:43.520 team up yeah yeah they are piling on the liberals on this and you know good on the ndp and the block

00:34:49.280 you know it seems like one of those stories that you know they don't have such an ideological uh

00:34:54.000 connection to although this is a crown corporation that is giving money to sort of green technology

00:34:59.280 corporations so i kind of would have thought the ndp would be a little more skittish on taking the

00:35:04.480 liberals to town on this but they are and credit to the ndp on this but you know you know the ndp they

00:35:09.520 feel like they have only a few issues in which they could press the liberals on and the you know

00:35:13.360 the other ones and all the important matters they have to support them but you know at least

00:35:17.760 you know they're doing something you know i don't want to trash on them every single time

00:35:24.400 no it's good that they're chiming in on committee because that's how you actually get these things put

00:35:28.000 forward and the fact that both the auditor general you said and the ethics commissioner have already

00:35:32.640 ruled on this huge this is huge um thank you for covering this rachel did you want to bring up you

00:35:37.840 had a poll that you wanted to raise here there's one last story that we have for you guys today and

00:35:43.280 i think that it's a good and a positive note to end the show on there's been a lot of heavy material

00:35:50.320 been a lot of negativity black pilling if you will but here take a look at this shows from this uh the

00:35:56.320 story about canadians shows that most canadians do not like being called settlers surprise surprise

00:36:04.000 you were born here i was born here maybe you immigrated here legally and got canadian citizenship

00:36:09.360 you don't want to be called a settler no surprise there i don't want to be called a settler and sure

00:36:13.360 we could talk about the negative aspects of the story that we even have to have these discussions

00:36:17.440 but i think it's a positive thing that canadians agree that this is really just silly that we should

00:36:22.880 be expected to call ourselves settlers um when we've lived here and in many cases for multiple

00:36:28.480 generations in our families um and i think the positive part of the story is that i think that

00:36:33.840 there's sort of like a conservative awakening happening across the country um in a variety of

00:36:39.360 ways i mean and in one regard people are really feeling the disastrous economic policies of the local

00:36:45.360 government likewise they are in the states you know they're really feeling the pinch at the pumps or when

00:36:49.440 they go to buy groceries and so people are sort of looking for solutions and i think in many cases

00:36:54.080 that's causing them to say you know what next time there's an election i'm going to throw my hat in

00:36:58.240 the ring for pierre polyevre even though i don't like him personally i'm going to vote for donald trump

00:37:02.400 in the november election but at the same time i think conservatives are becoming much more vocal

00:37:08.160 and forthright and they're becoming a lot more confident and courageous and willing to speak their

00:37:13.120 mind on these important things when i was in university i felt like there was really not a

00:37:18.160 voice for conservatives i wouldn't i was at a very liberal university and you know conservative

00:37:23.120 voices were being so silenced and stymied at the time and i just didn't seem like we had a lot of

00:37:27.840 strong conservative voices especially in canada i think dr jordan peterson was really one of those

00:37:32.960 first voices that came out and for many years you know we had a very weak conservative party that

00:37:37.600 didn't really take strong stances um on things like gender ideology and immigration and they're only

00:37:42.720 now seeming to get their foothold in that and so as much as things are really bad with our

00:37:47.520 government and we have a lot of really bad policies i think that writ large uh common sense good people

00:37:52.960 across the country are waking waking up and saying enough of this nonsense we're tired of it we're

00:37:57.520 going to vote for something different the next time around and we're going to be courageous in how we

00:38:01.040 speak about these things and and we're not going to be fearful of what people might think about us

00:38:05.680 for speaking the truth anymore and i think that's a really positive thing for the country and you know

00:38:10.720 i'm grateful that um i'm grateful to be a young person at a time when we're sort of seeing this

00:38:15.680 uh awakening if you will across the country and across north america and i don't think it's too

00:38:20.480 late to save canada i don't think it's too late to save north america but certainly the direction

00:38:24.720 people vote in in the next elections will matter quite a bit no yeah i think it's great though you

00:38:31.600 know people don't are rejecting the label of settler the settler label has a very particular

00:38:37.040 sort of implication and it's a negative implication it implies that you existing in canada as a canadian is

00:38:43.760 some sort of moral you know abomination of sorts like you really shouldn't be here you're just a

00:38:50.000 settler and you know in an ideal world you would give your land back to the people who rightfully 0.85

00:38:56.160 own it now this is a particularly interesting uh view of the world because you know conquest happens

00:39:02.560 all the time you know i'm not saying conquering other peoples and you know everything that comes

00:39:07.840 with that is a particularly good thing but it happens uh and you know a civilization was established

00:39:13.920 on the land in which the indigenous people didn't have and continue to have it and it's a particularly

00:39:19.520 good civilization and we should look to preserve and protect uh canadian uh civilization because you

00:39:26.080 know at the end of the day if we if we get rid of canada what is there really gonna be you know

00:39:31.360 nothing that can replace uh canada is going to be better than what we have uh right now obviously canada

00:39:37.360 can improve and get better we all acknowledge the problems and faults that this country has

00:39:42.000 but at the end of the day i don't know about you guys but there's no really other country that i'd

00:39:46.080 prefer uh living in so i think that you know canadians rejecting uh the settler label is a good thing

00:39:52.480 especially since it's a derogatory term i mean like that'd be like you know an ethnic minority you know

00:39:58.480 accepting the slurs that they get hurled at them you know it's kind of ridiculous uh for canadians to

00:40:04.640 roll over and you do have a lot of uh white canadians especially that are you know inflicted 0.95

00:40:09.520 with white guilt and they believe that you know because of their skin color that they are inherently

00:40:14.880 oppressors and therefore they have to do everything in their power in order to accommodate minorities

00:40:20.320 but that is the wrong uh view of the world and i'm sure that uh the two of you understand that i think

00:40:26.080 that uh as more and more canadians sort of recognize the need for a cohesive uh national identity that

00:40:34.320 unites one another uh that we're going to start to see the rejection of wokeism that is just that

00:40:39.680 just serves the purpose to divide us you know divide us on uh identitarian uh grounds so i think you

00:40:46.480 know canadians as rachel said are starting to awaken to you know their canadianness and um you know want

00:40:53.120 to be able to conserve the society that our for our forefathers and our constitutional forefathers

00:40:59.760 uh had erected back in 1867. you know we get a lot of emails at the canadian taxpayers federation

00:41:06.560 and um they're becoming increasingly more what could i say upsetting concerned um because people

00:41:15.440 just can't make it like they just can't make it we have more than half of canadians now are within

00:41:22.080 two hundred dollars every month of not being able to make their minimum payments on their bills and i'm

00:41:27.040 talking minimum payments like you're not paying off a credit card you're making minimum payments in

00:41:32.480 order just to barely keep your lights on we now also have record demand from coast to coast at food

00:41:39.760 banks the sharpest increase that the volunteers there are seeing are from what they call working

00:41:46.320 families what that means if you picture it a working family is that parents who are holding down jobs

00:41:53.600 are still counting on jars of donated peanut butter to feed their kids

00:41:59.760 that's where we're at and we hear from people from i'm telling you every walk of life every walk of

00:42:06.560 life they could be brand new canadians it could be seventh generation they could be first nations

00:42:10.560 canadians you name it um and they are really really hurting and that's our message is that we need lower

00:42:20.480 taxes less waste and more accountable government in order to give people their lives back so that

00:42:26.400 they can afford these things there was a gentleman who made a really good recommendation to me a few

00:42:31.200 months ago and it was about taxes it's about money picture what lands in your bank account say you get

00:42:37.760 paid your salary every two weeks say it automatically is deposited picture that number doubling that amount

00:42:44.720 doubling that's basically how much taxes take from you all the time picture what you could do with

00:42:52.480 that money could you afford to save up for a down payment could you know what could get his roof fixed

00:42:58.160 rinoa could get his roof fixed could you afford better food for your kids and so that's why whenever

00:43:03.440 i hear divisive language like this it almost you know what it almost always comes from a very rich person

00:43:11.120 in an ivory tower coming from academia who frankly isn't lining up for donated jars of peanut butter

00:43:18.160 so that's just been my experience that um this sort of need and this sort of desire for freedom and

00:43:26.240 lower taxes and more prosperity is universal and so that's what it just hurts when i hear divisive

00:43:34.400 language like that and so that's the kind of message we're hearing from the taxpayers federation supporters

00:43:39.200 all the time people are getting really to the end of their rope and i just wanted to encourage

00:43:44.320 them that we've seen bad times before canadians have seen bad times before there is always hope okay

00:43:50.880 people will eventually have enough of this and they will change they will absolutely change just giving

00:43:57.120 you a little bit of trace back to what we were seeing with cracks in the hull of the ndp on the carbon tax

00:44:03.040 if you see someone as ideologically wedded to something like the carbon tax like premier david eby

00:44:08.560 is cracking under the pressure that's because he's hearing from you that's because he's hearing from

00:44:14.880 the people who are lining up for jars of peanut butter so i just wanted to give people a little

00:44:19.200 bit of the white pill is that the term i should use here rachel um to give them a bit of hope that

00:44:25.200 things will they can and do change we have seen really tough times in canada before and i i truly believe

00:44:31.520 that things are going to get better i think that things are going to improve folks thank you so

00:44:36.160 much for watching thank you both rachel and noah for your contributions to this show and remember

00:44:42.240 everything is off the record

00:44:52.000 very good guys good job i like the hope and optimism at the end there you know like we're just pounding

00:44:58.000 people for the first 35 minutes and then they do need hope they do

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Canadians say NO to electric vehicles

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