Juno News - March 22, 2022


Candice Malcolm reacts to new NDP-Liberal Pact


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00:04:00.000 Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh have signed a secret backroom deal to give themselves an
00:04:17.380 undemocratic majority government. I'm Candace Malcolm and thank you for tuning in to a special
00:04:22.100 live edition of the Candace Malcolm Show. We thought we would go live for you this morning
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00:04:46.600 our Insiders Club, which gives you all sorts of special perks and access. So big, big news
00:04:53.000 today i think uh the democratic party the new democratic party not so democratic it turns out
00:04:58.120 because rather than going with the results of the election that we just had six months ago where
00:05:03.560 canadians decided to relegate justin trudeau to the smallest minority government in history well
00:05:09.960 what's what what what why listen to the democratic will of the people when you can just form a
00:05:15.000 backroom deal with a hapless leader of the ndp party the new democrats jagmeet singh so the
00:05:21.160 The Liberals and the NDP have come out today saying that they have a supply and confidence
00:05:26.900 agreement.
00:05:27.860 That means that the NDP will vote alongside the Liberals on any issues to do with supply
00:05:32.460 votes or confidence votes.
00:05:34.020 Those are the ones that can trigger elections.
00:05:35.740 So basically, the NDP is pledging to the Liberals not to trigger an election.
00:05:41.160 And in return, the Liberals are going to follow through with their own election platform issues
00:05:46.660 that fall in line with the NDP.
00:05:49.060 So it's sort of a strange deal.
00:05:50.640 We haven't really seen this kind of an agreement, from my recollection, in the history of the country.
00:05:57.020 Typically, when a NDP and liberals form a coalition together, the NDP gets something, right?
00:06:02.840 The NDP leader might get a position in cabinet.
00:06:05.240 They might get more power within the actual government.
00:06:08.340 This time, it just seems like it's just a paper agreement that the NDP will continue to prop up this liberal government for the next two and a half,
00:06:16.580 almost three years, I guess, until the end of that parliamentary session in 2025. So by the time
00:06:22.100 this deal expires, Justin Trudeau will be our prime minister for 10 long punishing years. This
00:06:28.380 is the news that Canadians woke up to this morning. So here are some of the details of the
00:06:33.680 agreement between the Liberals and the NDP. The Liberal Party has reached a supply and confidence
00:06:38.360 agreement with the New Democrats. This agreement is in place starting today until the end of the
00:06:42.400 parliamentary session at the end or in 2025. This agreement will see the NDP supporting the liberals
00:06:47.820 during confident votes in budgetary matters, including budgetary policy, budget and implementation
00:06:52.320 bills, estimates and supplies. And in return, the liberals will support NDP initiatives. I just want
00:06:58.280 to make a point here that, you know, there really isn't that much of a distinction between the
00:07:03.000 liberals and the NDP in terms of what they promise. I mean, these two parties basically have the same
00:07:07.820 philosophy they're both progressive left-wing governments uh that believe that there's no limit
00:07:14.140 in sight for governments they believe in no restraints uh no constraining uh aspect to the
00:07:19.100 government the government can do everything it can fix all of your problems we heard that from both
00:07:23.180 leaders today both the ndp and the uh liberals announced this justin trudeau and jagmeet singh
00:07:30.220 sounded like they were sharing the same talking points they were both talking about helping
00:07:33.660 canadians and having canadians backs um is that really what we want from our government though
00:07:39.260 a government that's going to be there for you to solve all of your problems with with with
00:07:43.660 absolutely no limitations in terms of their ability to actually help people or the amount
00:07:47.980 of money that they have because this is this is a major problem for the liberals and and and the
00:07:52.540 ndp are simply enabling it that this idea that there's no end in sight to how much money this
00:07:57.500 government will spend and how deep in debt they will bring canadians so the supply and confidence
00:08:03.260 agreement, we'll see the NDP supporting the Liberals. Both parties agree to standing meetings.
00:08:09.740 So the leaders are going to meet once a quarter. The House leaders are going to continue to meet.
00:08:13.540 The whips are going to meet. And there will be monthly stock take meetings by an oversight group.
00:08:18.560 Canadians need stability, said Justin Trudeau this morning. We cannot allow our differences
00:08:22.100 to stand in the way of delivering what Canadians deserve. So what are the issues that they agree on?
00:08:27.720 They both want to spend even more money on health care. You know, to me, the lesson the last two
00:08:32.300 years was that there is a major fundamental problem with the canadian healthcare system it is
00:08:36.460 not funded in a way that will allow for canadians to get the help that they need when they need it
00:08:42.140 uh we need change we have a rigid system that clearly failed in in the face of a crisis and
00:08:48.380 the outcome that the takeaway the liberals and the ndp have here is that they want to spend even more
00:08:53.820 money to double down on this broken system they want to add dental care to the program look i'm
00:08:57.900 I'm a big advocate of people going to the dentist, having a dental care.
00:09:02.380 I think it should be part of standard insurance that you should have with your job.
00:09:06.080 But the idea of including it into the government system will just make dental care terrible in this country.
00:09:11.840 So more of that, more affordable housing, more $10 a day child care, more money towards climate change, a better deal for workers, which really just means government workers.
00:09:22.900 So more perks and privileges to those who work for the government, more on reconciliation, better tax system for the middle class, whatever that means at the same time is also increasing the carbon tax.
00:09:36.440 And then this is kind of ironic, making democracy work for the people, removing barriers to voting.
00:09:41.740 So supposedly these two politicians who have made a backroom deal for us today are going to improve our democracy.
00:09:49.260 Isn't that a little bit rich?
00:09:50.760 Here's a clip of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announcing this agreement that starts today.
00:09:56.380 Let's play that clip.
00:09:59.520 Prime Minister, by the time this deal expires in 2025, you will have been in office for almost 10 years.
00:10:06.200 Are you committed to staying on and running another election campaign in that year,
00:10:09.820 or do you imagine a leadership race within your party?
00:10:12.260 As I've said a number of times, I'm planning on continuing to serve Canadians through and beyond the next election.
00:10:20.760 All right. That was not the clip I wanted. That was a clip of Justin Trudeau telling us that he is not going anywhere, that he is going to continue to be our prime minister, that many people are speculating today that this might be the end of Justin Trudeau, might be the end of Jagmeet Singh, that these politicians are making this deal to sort of secure the end of their political life.
00:10:38.080 if the government is in place till 2025, Justin Trudeau could step down next year or the following
00:10:43.420 year and give the new leader of the liberals that they select some time to govern before the next
00:10:48.500 election. So there is him disputing that, saying, no, no, I'm not going anywhere. You can take that
00:10:54.100 with a grain of salt. But do we have the right clip here of Trudeau? No, I don't think we have
00:11:01.100 that clip. Anyway, he was just announcing that basically what I just said, which was that this
00:11:06.400 is a agreement in principle, it's not an official coalition, and that both parties basically have
00:11:12.360 the option to leave the agreement anytime soon. I'll play another clip. Here's a question
00:11:19.440 that Justin Trudeau received, actually a pretty stern question that he faced in French today,
00:11:27.220 asking, basically, you know, we just had an election, we just had an election, this is a
00:11:32.100 travesty of democracy, and here is what Justin Trudeau said to apply to that.
00:11:39.380 Good morning, Prime Minister. What do you say to Canadians who are furious with this arrangement
00:11:44.500 because they said they elected a Liberal government only six months ago, and here they are
00:11:50.480 with a Liberal NDP government, which would be now a majority. Is this not a travesty of democracy?
00:11:58.120 Well, the major message that people gave us with the election of a minority government is that people expect that parliamentarians will work together.
00:12:13.000 People expect that members of parliament will be able to agree on common points in order to work more constructively for Canadians.
00:12:28.500 And that is exactly what we are announcing today.
00:12:33.060 Well, so here you go. At least he got a little bit of pushback from his government-funded media there.
00:12:39.940 Yes, this is a travesty of democracy. Canadians did not vote for a coalition. We did not vote for an NDP government, NDP propping up liberals like this. Sure, they voted for, Canadians voted for a minority government, which implies that there will be coalitions. But this is, it implies that governments will be, parties will be working together.
00:13:01.000 But this goes above and beyond that. This goes into a backroom deal. Warren Kinsella, who is a former aide to a liberal prime minister, he's a liberal, but he doesn't like Justin Trudeau.
00:13:13.000 He had an amusing piece in the Toronto Sun this morning saying, breaking down the motive for this undemocratic liberal NDP backroom deal.
00:13:21.060 And he calls these guys the axis of weasels. That's a pretty good take on it. The axis of weasels. Dirty deals gives Trudeau a lot of runway to cobble together some sort of a legacy agreement. So he has that over on the Toronto Sun website. And I have to say, I might start using that term there, the axis of weasels. Pretty apt.
00:13:46.720 Lots of criticism coming out against this. Candace Bergen, the leader of the Conservatives, the interim leader, she slams the agreement.
00:13:53.960 She says that the NDP Liberal Coalition is nothing more than a callous attempt by Trudeau to hold on to power.
00:14:00.420 Canadians did not vote for an NDP government. This is little more than a backroom, than backroom, backdoor socialism.
00:14:06.360 This is the NDP Liberal Agreement at government by blackmail.
00:14:11.720 Let's play that clip of Candace Bergen. I believe we have that. This is nothing more.
00:14:16.720 than a Trudeau government power grab.
00:14:18.820 This is Candace Bergen, leader of the Conservative Party.
00:14:23.900 This deal means that Canadians have woken up to,
00:14:26.820 and in essence, an NDP liberal majority government.
00:14:32.040 And I think we have to let that sink in.
00:14:33.800 This is an NDP liberal government,
00:14:37.100 and they have the majority.
00:14:39.340 82% of voters did not vote for a liberal NDP government,
00:14:44.340 including millions of Liberal voters.
00:14:48.500 These Canadians woke up this morning to the fact that they have been hoodwinked
00:14:53.220 and they've been deceived by their Prime Minister.
00:14:56.500 Now let me be clear, this is nothing more than a Justin Trudeau
00:15:00.820 power grab. He is desperately clinging to power.
00:15:04.420 His number one goal, as we have seen over the course of the last six years,
00:15:09.220 is always to do what's best for him, not to do what's best for Canadians.
00:15:14.340 Now, make no mistake, the NDP are in charge.
00:15:19.340 The NDP are in charge.
00:15:21.340 Well, it's kind of an interesting take because in my perspective,
00:15:24.340 it seems like the NDP have given away all their cards.
00:15:27.340 Like, what do they really have?
00:15:29.340 I mean, here's Jagmeet Singh making the announcement.
00:15:32.340 First of all, he sounds exactly like Justin Trudeau.
00:15:35.340 He just goes up there and talks about how the government is this amazing vessel
00:15:40.340 where it can help everyone.
00:15:41.340 And the real reason that he did this was because he just wants Canadians to have free dental care.
00:15:46.920 Let's put this clip because I think you'll notice he sounds exactly like Justin Trudeau.
00:15:51.640 Basically just saying, we've got your back. We've got your back.
00:15:54.520 That's Justin Trudeau's favorite line. And here is Jagmeet Singh repeating that line.
00:16:00.020 And what we've been able to do is to use our power in this minority government to get help to people,
00:16:06.160 to get to help to people in this difficult time.
00:16:08.120 and I want you to know we've got your back. We're here for you. We hear you. We see you and we're
00:16:14.240 fighting to get you that help and we are delivering that help. Delivering that help. We've got your
00:16:19.260 back. And yet here he also says when asked by media. So what happens if Justin Trudeau falls
00:16:24.660 short? What happens if he fails to live up to his end of the bargain? Jagmeet basically just says,
00:16:30.160 well, then we'll withdraw the agreement anytime. Let's play that clip.
00:16:32.680 we have tools to make sure that the government will do what it's promised to do
00:16:40.280 we'll use our power to help deliver their goods and to guarantee results but
00:16:47.200 we also have uh the option of withdrawing uh our agreement
00:16:53.360 so they have the option of withdrawing agreement this all sort of begs the question of why are
00:16:59.780 they doing this? Like, to me, when I saw this news, and I was reading a little bit about the
00:17:04.180 details, it's like, there's something else is going on here. It seems to me that Justin Trudeau
00:17:09.020 is hiding something. This agreement is kind of unnecessary. It just gives it just sets the
00:17:14.160 liberals and the NDP up for the potential lines of attack, which we're already seeing from the
00:17:19.660 conservatives are already seeing from the potential leaders of the party, which is that you can't
00:17:25.220 trust the liberals that, you know, they're making backroom deals, that they're undemocratic,
00:17:30.940 that when you vote for the liberals, what you're really going to get is the NDP, which, you know,
00:17:35.180 there's a lot of liberals out there who don't like the NDP, who don't want to be a socialist
00:17:38.200 party, who don't like what the NDP stands for. And, you know, this is rubbing them the wrong way.
00:17:43.360 So, you know, it seems to me that there is something more going on here that we'll all
00:17:49.820 learn in six months from now that there is some scandal or there's something happening that
00:17:53.500 Justin Trudeau is trying to hide and trying to cover up by distracting the media, getting them
00:17:57.120 all to pay attention to this agreement that can be broken at either time. I remember I had Pierre
00:18:03.900 Polyev, who's now running for leader of the Conservative Party. I had him on my show a couple
00:18:08.020 months ago, and he was talking all about how Justin Trudeau triggered the election in 2021
00:18:12.380 because he had no other choice, because the way that he was spending, the way that his government
00:18:17.880 was ramping up spending, they just simply wouldn't be able to afford to go on that trajectory anymore,
00:18:22.100 that they needed a majority government in order to hide their scandals, like the WE scandal,
00:18:26.420 from the Canadian public, that they used that election to shut down the WE investigation
00:18:33.840 in the committees. And it sort of feels like something else like that is going on at this
00:18:38.880 point. I got to get Pierre back on my show to explain that, describe that a little more. But
00:18:44.640 from Trudeau's perspective, I think he's hiding something. From the NDP's perspective,
00:18:48.260 I think this is just like a last-ditch effort by Jagmeet Singh.
00:18:53.600 He's pretty much irrelevant in Parliament.
00:18:56.460 He has a very hard time getting traction.
00:18:58.740 No one really takes him seriously.
00:19:00.820 And the sort of elephant in the room is that the NDP is broke and they're desperate.
00:19:05.880 I've written about this before in the Toronto Sun.
00:19:08.180 But all you have to do is look at their annual financial returns, look at the Elections Canada
00:19:12.480 notes that come up.
00:19:14.580 And it shows that the NDP just basically doesn't have the fundraising base that they used to.
00:19:19.040 They spend more money than they bring in like every year and they just get plunged further and further into debt.
00:19:25.480 Back in 2017, they were $4.5 million in debt.
00:19:31.140 I don't think they've ever really recovered from that.
00:19:33.100 They bought a $12 million building, a party headquarters called the Jack Layton Building in Ottawa.
00:19:38.680 They're deep, deep in debt.
00:19:40.300 They borrowed another $10 million during the 2019 election.
00:19:44.000 And the only way that they were even able to stay afloat is because taxpayers subsidized them.
00:19:49.880 Taxpayers gave them a nine million dollar rebate. So the reality is that the NDP is pretty hapless.
00:19:55.300 I wouldn't be surprised if this party just like folds and they permanently merge with the liberals, because I can't really see another way out.
00:20:03.680 And, you know, we here at Trenorth were speculating this morning as to whether or not this guy would remain leader of the party.
00:20:09.020 I mean, it's an interesting question, but he's just taking the party in such a strange direction.
00:20:16.520 And finally, I think this is good news for the Conservatives.
00:20:19.980 I know that everyone watching this right now is like, this is terrible.
00:20:24.760 This cements Justin Trudeau's power.
00:20:26.820 But the reality is that the Conservatives don't have a leader right now and that they need time.
00:20:31.000 Remember during the 2021 election, Justin Trudeau said that the typical minority government only lasts for about 18 months.
00:20:37.800 and so conservatives were preparing themselves like we have to uh do a leadership race we have
00:20:42.440 to select a new leader and then that leader needs to have some time to uh you know put together
00:20:48.120 some of the team that they want uh you know get everyone on the same page unite the party behind
00:20:52.120 them and it's hard to do that on a quick timeline if you're if you're considering that 18 months
00:20:57.000 might get you to another snap election so this this buys the service more time um like i said
00:21:03.160 earlier the campaign slogans sort of write themselves like a vote for liberals is now vote
00:21:08.280 for socialism there's no difference between the liberals and the ndp and you no longer have to
00:21:12.440 hold the liberals to account for the crazy things that they're saying uh you just have to point to
00:21:16.600 the craziest thing that the ndp is saying and say that's what you're going to get if you elect
00:21:21.160 justin trudeau again plus the whole just like untrustworthiness backroom deal warren kinsella
00:21:26.440 calling these guys the axis of weasels i don't know if justin trudeau is going to be able to
00:21:31.160 shake that. So, so far we have heard from two of the Conservative opposition candidates, the people
00:21:37.920 running for Conservative leader. First was Jean Charest. Jean Charest accused Trudeau of buying
00:21:44.360 his majority. He said, this coalition is further proof that the Trudeau Liberals govern for
00:21:49.400 themselves, not Canadians. They will stop at nothing to keep power, even if it means buying
00:21:54.180 themselves a majority. The Conservatives have to unite. Read my statement. So again, this is a gift
00:22:00.800 to the conservatives. This is going to be the shot that they can keep taking over and over again.
00:22:07.160 Pierre Polyev likewise called this a socialist coalition power pact formed to hold power until
00:22:13.580 2025. We have a clip of Pierre. And just a heads up, the audio isn't great. It looks like Pierre
00:22:19.080 recorded this in his car driving last night when the news first broke on the CBC. So here is that
00:22:24.640 clip of Pierre Polyev.
00:22:29.360 Hi everyone, sorry about the poor quality of this video, but I'm traveling from Montreal
00:22:33.700 to Ottawa just as breaking news comes forward of a coalition power pact between the socialist
00:22:41.120 NDP and the Liberals to keep in control of the government until the year 2025.
00:22:48.960 Obviously, they agreed to a radical and extreme agenda to expand the power of government by taking away the freedoms of the people, to increase spending and taxes and inflation on the backs of the people, or just inflation as I've described it.
00:23:10.480 the news might seem terrible but I'm here today with a message of hope with a strong conservative
00:23:20.640 leader who knows how to win the debate and the procedural contests on the floor of the
00:23:25.300 House of Commons we can push back hard against the this coalition attack on our freedom
00:23:32.320 so again this is great news for the conservatives because it gives them
00:23:37.780 So much fodder, so much to talk about.
00:23:40.400 I'm going to take some of your questions here since we are doing this live show.
00:23:43.920 I've got a couple that my producer has been pulling.
00:23:46.440 So I'll go with Sherry.
00:23:48.400 Sherry asked a question.
00:23:49.280 Candice, why don't you talk about the World Economic Forum?
00:23:51.600 What is really going on?
00:23:52.880 We get this question.
00:23:53.760 Actually, I had Rupa Supramana on my show last week.
00:23:57.180 She wrote a piece about how she believes that Chrystia Freeland's position on the board
00:24:02.460 of the World Economic Forum is a conflict of interest with her position as finance
00:24:06.360 Minister of Canada. Personally, my opinion of the World Economic Forum is just sort of just another
00:24:12.940 like useless sort of rather creepy leftist authoritarian international institution where
00:24:20.140 they sit around and talk about how important they are and how great they are and kind of nothing
00:24:26.900 comes of it. Or, you know, they set these ridiculous standards and politicians sort of talk good game
00:24:32.600 And then they come back and nothing becomes of it. Like, I think I think that the World Economic Forum wishes it was as powerful as people think it is.
00:24:39.900 In reality, it's just an opportunity for the sort of elitists of the world, people like Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland to gather around like minded people and basically just sit around and talk about all the sort of wacky plans that they have for the world.
00:24:59.320 it is interesting because um there were some conservatives that were involved in and i i agree
00:25:04.280 i don't i don't like that i don't like to see people um on the conservative side participating
00:25:08.040 in these sort of elitist leftist global governance sort of schemes and i i was happy to see pierre
00:25:14.760 polyev uh denounce them on on you talked about on the andrew lawton show last week and i hope that
00:25:19.800 more conservatives push back against these sort of terrible global governance schemes another
00:25:25.960 question here. Pamela asks, Candace, what is your opinion and what could be done to reverse this to
00:25:31.760 get Trudeau and Freeland out and to force an election? Well, unfortunately, that all rests
00:25:38.100 in the hands of Jagmeet Singh. He's been given a tremendous amount of power in this parliament,
00:25:43.660 given the minority situation. So he holds together the power and it looks like he's using that
00:25:49.060 to create this pact, this agreement. I think it'll be very bad politically for Jagmeet
00:25:55.820 thing. I think that there's a lot of people in the NDP who don't like Justin Trudeau, a lot of
00:25:59.940 working class people who frankly feel very alienated by this idea that the NDP is now in lockstep with
00:26:06.420 the liberals. Liberals are very clearly the corporatist party in Canada. They represent
00:26:10.540 the woke ideology of the left as well as the sort of like corporate culture in Canada. And I think
00:26:18.080 it again creates a huge opportunity for the conservatives to represent the people of the
00:26:23.000 country, the working class, the working people, people who don't work for the government, people
00:26:27.280 who don't work for corporations, small business owners and families. I think that the NDP has
00:26:32.500 completely abandoned that aspect of its base. And I don't think that it'll reward Singh in the long
00:26:40.040 run. I think that he's given away all of his power today. And I think, again, next time that there's
00:26:45.980 an actual election and the Canadians get to choose, I think they will be punishing Justin
00:26:50.600 Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh for today. As far as, you know, can we make that happen any sooner?
00:26:56.440 I don't think so. I think these guys just cemented their own power for at least the next two, three
00:27:01.060 years. Next question, Candace, is there a way of getting rid of this situation? No, I mean,
00:27:07.660 you know, they're using their power. They're using the powers that they have in Parliament. And I
00:27:13.520 think the only way that we can reverse it is ensuring that whenever the next election comes,
00:27:19.180 whether it's 2025, as this agreement would suggest, or, you know, whether the Liberals and the NDP break it themselves before that, that Canadians are aware and that we don't let them forget.
00:27:34.200 Lots of questions along those lines. So, you know, what can we do? I want my country back. So do I.
00:27:38.680 I will say during most of the pandemic, I was truly saddened and disappointed by the direction of government, the lack of pushback, the lack of even amongst conservatives fighting back against excessive government use, lockdowns, just all of the craziness, shutting down schools, shutting down our hospital system.
00:27:59.580 I wanted to see more of an opposition, whether it's from conservatives or any party.
00:28:05.640 I think that we've now turned a corner and, you know, I think that the Freedom Convoy was a huge wake up for many people.
00:28:14.580 You know, we want our freedoms back, we want our country back.
00:28:16.760 And it was it was good to see, I think, that we're heading in the right direction and we need to continue to harness that power of good and continue to go in that direction.
00:28:28.540 to tell our leaders that we don't want this direction.
00:28:31.620 We don't want to become a socialist, globalist country.
00:28:36.580 Next, we have a question from Colleen.
00:28:39.080 She says, Candace, do you think conservatives and bloc can emerge together
00:28:42.280 and compromise West and Quebec issues so we can get a fair vote?
00:28:47.120 Well, I don't think that we would have enough seats.
00:28:49.660 I don't think that the conservatives and the bloc...
00:28:52.560 Let me see. I saw a map of the votes.
00:28:56.920 Yeah, so the Bloc only has 32 seats. The Conservatives have 119. So that would be 151 combined. The Liberals and the NDP combined are 182. So even a Bloc and a Conservative combination would not be enough to counter that Liberal NDP vote.
00:29:16.260 So, you know, those are the numbers. That's that's the parliament that we have. And there's very little that we can do about it. I'll go to the next question. Nadeem, what are the liberals so laser focused on keeping Trudeau as their leader? What was their last when was their last leadership contest? Yeah, Justin Trudeau has been leader of this party since, what, 2012?
00:29:37.540 And interesting because back then there were some other good candidates that were running for the liberals.
00:29:44.240 It wasn't just Trudeau that was already the Justin Trudeau show because that party is very much a cult around the Trudeau name.
00:29:51.480 And as soon as Justin Trudeau announced that he wanted to lead the party, it was basically a coronation for him.
00:29:57.400 So, yeah, I mean, I could sort of see Trudeau gracefully stepping aside, well, as gracefully as he could, you know, giving his seat to Chrystia Freeland so that she can run in the next election, sort of the way that Dalton McGinty did for Kathleen Wynne, avoid the sort of scrutiny of his scandals all coming out.
00:30:20.260 and stepping aside before the electorate could really throw him out, which saved the Liberal
00:30:26.280 Party. Recall, Dalton McGinty was in power for a long time in Ontario. By the end, he was very
00:30:30.940 unpopular because of the gas plant scandal and a number of other ethical scandals. And the Ontario
00:30:36.940 public was very clear that they wanted a change. And so Dalton McGinty provided that change within
00:30:41.560 the Liberal Party. He stood up aside. Kathleen Wynne came up. People didn't see her in the same
00:30:46.400 light as they saw Dalton McGinty. And so that change was sort of already fulfilled. And Kathleen
00:30:51.660 Wynn was rewarded with becoming the premier. So I could see them kind of taking a book from that
00:30:58.160 playbook. But again, Justin Trudeau told us today, I played you that clip earlier, he said that he
00:31:04.560 will run again in 2025. So he doesn't want you to know that he is going anywhere. That's, again,
00:31:11.980 a terrifying idea for many of us. But for Justin Trudeau, he says that he's not going anywhere.
00:31:17.400 Maybe he wants to stay in power like his father. I mean, he's not even that old. I think he's
00:31:21.120 in his 50s. But he could have a long way to go if he wanted to continue to govern. I know that's
00:31:28.700 a scary proposition. I'll do one more question here. Pamela asks, do you think this will push
00:31:34.940 Western separation, three more years of the liberals will ruin us. I think it will heighten
00:31:41.740 Western alienation for sure. I think the longer that the West is left out and ignored and neglected,
00:31:47.820 the worse it will be, the sentiment. You know, I had Irvin's student on the show earlier this week.
00:31:54.300 Actually, it was just yesterday. I had him on the show. He's a brilliant political analyst. And he
00:31:59.740 sort of talked about how the idea that Canada is going to remain a country isn't a given.
00:32:04.940 He's analyzed countries and he says that most of them typically last about 60 years.
00:32:10.240 And anything on top of that is because of constant hard work and constant refreshing and renewing of our institutions.
00:32:18.700 And that's simply not happening in Canada under Justin Trudeau.
00:32:21.320 There is significant democratic decay in our country and Trudeau just sort of seems indifferent to it.
00:32:26.560 And instead, he wants to continue pushing us down this very scary path towards authoritarianism, towards government regulation, government controlling the Internet, government censoring what you can say, government censoring what you can think, the way that they demonize and scapegoat people that they disagree with.
00:32:45.840 the direction of the government under Justin Trudeau is truly going in a very scary direction.
00:32:52.720 Trudeau seems uninterested in fixing and addressing the sort of broader problem. So I think the longer
00:32:58.000 that he behaves this way, the longer that he acts this way and governs this way, the worse it is
00:33:02.260 for our country. And yes, I definitely think that is a concern for the country, that people
00:33:11.820 don't see themselves being reflected in this government. And that Justin Trudeau is sort of
00:33:16.400 apathetic to that idea. And rather than trying to understand the concerns of working people or
00:33:23.820 people in the West, people in the trucker convoy, he would simply rather name call them and do
00:33:29.300 backroom deals like we saw today to secure his own power. All right, folks, thank you so much
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