Juno News - Carney APOLOGIZES to Trump over WEF speech？!

00:00:00.000 well they can't both be telling the truth two very different accounts of what happened during

00:00:10.140 a phone call conversation between prime minister carney and president trump this week this headline

00:00:16.220 in the toronto sun joe warmington's story did carney aggressively walk back davos speech to

00:00:22.980 trump while u.s treasury secretary scott besant said he did he told fox news he was in the white

00:00:29.660 house when carney walked back the anti-trump comments he made in a speech to the world economic

00:00:35.480 forum let's listen i was in the oval with the president today he spoke to prime minister carney

00:00:42.340 who was very aggressively walking back some of the unfortunate remarks he made the at davos and sean

00:00:51.780 i'm not sure what the prime minister was thinking of course canada depends on the u.s there's much

00:00:58.760 more north-south trade than there could ever be east-west trade he talks about middle countries

00:01:04.780 having to do their own thing and i'm old enough to remember when french president francois

00:01:11.020 minteron tried to go down that route it it failed the back in the 80s it'll fail now now when carney

00:01:18.380 was asked about it he gave a very different account of what he told trump during that conversation

00:01:23.300 but to be absolutely clear and i said this to the to the president um i meant what i said in in davos it

00:01:30.340 was clear it was a broader set of issues that canada was the first country to understand the change in

00:01:37.580 u.s trade policy that he had initiated um and we're responding to that we're responding positively by

00:01:43.700 building partnerships abroad we're responding positively by building at home and we're prepared

00:01:48.680 to respond positively by building that new uh relationship through kuzma he understood that

00:01:53.620 and it was a good conversation as i say well if that's what happened during that conversation

00:01:58.340 carney kept it to himself until besant told the world about it on fox news normally when prime

00:02:04.620 ministers talk on the phone with world leaders they release that information to the media this post

00:02:10.140 by the toronto sun's brian lilly the point i'm making is that we have no word from carney for decades

00:02:18.520 when a pm would have a call with a world leader you would get a readout which would be sent to the

00:02:25.440 media in the online world posted to the pm's website trudeau harper chretien etc all did this not carney

00:02:36.360 but if carney did walk back elements of the devos speech in his conversation with trump it wouldn't

00:02:43.260 be the first time he retreated in his dealings with the president last fall carney apologized over

00:02:49.640 the reagan tv ads in which the former president is heard to oppose the use of tariffs our guest today

00:02:57.600 is dan mctaig a former 18-year member of parliament he was a liberal member of parliament these days he's

00:03:04.500 executive director for canadians for affordable energy welcome dan mark thank you for the

00:03:10.260 introduction and great to be here with you i see you're in your car lots of snow around you i'm sure

00:03:16.520 not too many electric vehicles i bet no no electric vehicles and unless you have a really small place

00:03:21.960 i don't see any uh battery powered snowblowers either uh my 12 horsepower took care of my 300 feet

00:03:27.920 of uh snow with uh with ease but uh again uh not a lot of people seeing windmills or solar panels

00:03:33.700 working when they're covered in snow so uh i guess we're all using natural gas propane or uh hooked

00:03:38.640 up to one of the nuclear reactors but uh the fantasies of the past 10 15 years are over as is the idea

00:03:44.060 that the climate is somehow changing yeah we've got a canadian winter again yeah well we'll get to

00:03:49.980 the mandates and i'm at the ev mandates because on a day like this it stands out as being pure folly but

00:03:55.940 i have to ask you about this latest kerfuffle involving the prime minister and trump the pm wants to

00:04:02.320 look like he's getting tough on trump he's got his elbows up but he ends up looking like he's caving in

00:04:08.200 this time over a conversation the two of them had over the the uh davos comments the speech he gave

00:04:16.480 sounding tough talking tough in front of the world economic forum and then uh scott besant

00:04:23.360 came out and told fox that he was in the oval office when the two were talking and it sounded

00:04:30.360 like carney was was backpedaling mightily in order away from his this comments that he had made to

00:04:36.760 davos and then you have carney coming out today and say no i i stuck to my guns what do you suppose

00:04:42.580 is going on here well he's saying one thing to one audience and another thing to a very different

00:04:48.340 audience and he knows full well that uh you know this is not the kind of administration let alone

00:04:53.720 the kind of country you want to play games with and try to uh you know play uh footsies with china 0.98

00:04:58.920 at the same time uh berating or degrading or uh insulting denigrating the united states look we all

00:05:05.540 have a position on trump uh we may not like the guy but uh at the end of the day mark carney's job was

00:05:10.560 one that he could get a deal with him number two is that uh we have an extraordinarily important

00:05:15.640 relationship cultural geographic and yes economic and unless people are prepared to trade away

00:05:21.680 everything they own and i mean that uh we better smarten up very quickly so it's cool and trendy and

00:05:27.360 crazy for uh you know for carney to talk to his buddies in davos the billionaires that he's been

00:05:32.500 you know rubbing shoulders with for the better part of a decade or so but when it comes down to

00:05:37.200 actually facing the music that is uh the relationship we have the inextricable relationship we have between

00:05:42.860 the two countries your philosophy and your uh your your uh your narrative goes right out the window

00:05:48.960 under the pressure of rail politic bottom line these liberals don't act in a way and certainly

00:05:53.820 carney isn't the one to deal with realism he talks about fanciful things and polemics and whatnot and

00:05:59.200 that's what i saw in his speech last week yeah the trendies are going to say it's great but in fact

00:06:03.520 it's a very dangerous and very ominous position especially when it comes after signing a big deal with the

00:06:08.680 world's greatest security threat and then uh proclaiming it's a new world order i mean mark

00:06:14.160 carney is a very dangerous man smart a lot smarter than the dummy who he replaced but at the same time

00:06:19.340 canadians aren't aware what's going on frankly i don't know who to believe anymore but i certainly

00:06:23.320 don't believe mark carney yeah the americans are very perplexed and not very happy about the deal

00:06:29.340 that canada signed with china of course to bring over 49 000 of these uh chinese-made evs i know you have

00:06:36.180 some strong feelings about that and then uh he said well we're not pursuing free trade did carney

00:06:42.380 carney said we're not pursuing free trade with china we're just making some smaller deals but i think

00:06:48.340 all of this is muddying the waters going into canada's negotiations uh on the kuzma front or usmca

00:06:56.040 whatever your perspective is and that's coming up very shortly i none of this helps does it dan

00:07:01.960 no and especially when you uh signed an agreement or made some kind of a deal with the chinese based

00:07:07.320 on duress based on uh bribing based on uh you know someone basically coming up to you and saying if

00:07:13.460 you don't do a certain thing uh then we're going to continue to penalize they're playing the game

00:07:18.880 against us and if people don't recognize uh that this kind of blackmail uh is not the basis for any

00:07:24.980 kind of trade certainly not a way of turning around to the americans a thumb around nose up and saying

00:07:28.960 uh we got a better deal with china i know the elbozos out there think that's cool except that 1.00

00:07:33.800 you gotta ask them when they lose their pension when they lose government programs when they lose

00:07:38.240 their value of their homes and their cottages then what are they going to be left with will they still

00:07:42.140 be cheering this idea that we can somehow uh berate uh the american administration like it or not

00:07:48.520 you know if we have to respect uh the fact that mark carney was elected prime minister however that

00:07:53.460 happened we also have to respect the united states made a decision and the decision they're making

00:07:57.660 is with an administration saying listen we want to do trade but you're going to do it on our terms

00:08:02.400 not just on your terms and you're not going to do sneaky things behind the scenes and yes supply

00:08:06.880 management is part of that but what this really says to me is that canada has now come to a point

00:08:12.360 where it needs to make a choice is it chinese interference is it chinese surveillance is it chinese

00:08:18.100 uh china acting like a bully to all its neighbors in uh the in the east uh the southeast asia region 0.97

00:08:24.720 or are we going to deal with a partner that we can actually talk to that we've dealt with for better

00:08:29.220 part of a hundred years and we've uh you know gone shoulder to shoulder with almost every conflict

00:08:33.760 going back at least that period of time it's hard to know exactly what carney's up to here he's trying

00:08:39.320 to play the chinese off against the americans either way i mean if he's trying to play you know 4d

00:08:45.220 chess i don't think it's working very well everybody just sees right through him yesterday we had

00:08:50.500 announcements about affordability of course with gst credits increased in order to ease the crunch

00:09:00.140 facing so many canadians as far as buying groceries and then also talk about bail reform so these are

00:09:06.480 two major issues for canadians crime and affordability and the fact that they would deal with these two

00:09:13.340 after 10 months of doing nothing on either as some people wondering dan if in fact this isn't the

00:09:19.360 possible start of an election campaign uh what do you think oh i think very much is because the

00:09:26.880 liberals are running on uh on fumes right now whether they like it or not and there's this bump

00:09:30.720 in the media again i look at some of the media shares of their 35 cents there's nothing holding

00:09:35.240 them in the game except the liberal party grift that's keeping them uh afloat and of course they're

00:09:39.460 not going to bite the hand that feeds them but there's a bigger issue here as the author of one of

00:09:44.420 the first uses of the gst to give a rebate to people you recall i did this mark back in 2000 2001

00:09:51.540 i wrote a report on gasoline pricing saying that we can't give the gst back uh because they would

00:09:57.400 likely be absorbed by other circumstances i suggested that we provide a rebate to canadians

00:10:03.320 on lesser income the point i'm making is that the gst rebate is in light of the fact the federal

00:10:09.060 government and it's liberal net green policies you don't want to give you ev mandates that block

00:10:14.180 pipelines and massive one two three carbon taxes it's also the same one that has driven up the cost

00:10:20.180 of uh and and and made inflation that much more difficult for canadians especially when it comes 0.70

00:10:25.140 to food uh that aside i mean it's a very dumb way of trying to resolve a problem that you and your

00:10:30.940 policies have created liberals need to nix net zero get away from that bad policy the rest of the world 0.97

00:10:36.100 sees it like a bad smell i mean we don't see uh uh people like uh uh greta thunberg anymore talking

00:10:43.220 about how dare you or you know uh other bill gates and others trying to push this narrative it's over

00:10:49.680 it's not 2015 it's 2026 and reality means that prices are going through the roof for everything

00:10:54.620 because we still have policies that create enormous amount of red tape regulation and at the end of the

00:11:00.180 day add to the burden and the cost of just about everything in this country and i'm talking about the

00:11:03.920 second carbon tax the carbon tax 2.0 which mark you and i've been talking about for five or six years

00:11:09.160 it's starting to hit canadians and then you have the industrial carbon tax on top of that not to

00:11:13.720 mention regulations that are discouraging investments in this country and plunging the value of the

00:11:18.620 canadian dollar when it takes 137 pennies to buy us dollar that's adding you know that removes the

00:11:24.080 purchase power of at least 30 to 40 percent of every canadian like it or not if canadians aren't

00:11:28.300 prepared to uh walk away from abandon the uh the net zero policies that are really the granddaddy of

00:11:34.440 all these bad you know inflationary policies and they're going to continue to suffer and no amount

00:11:38.960 of you know playing a little bit of gst game here and there which is going to add to our deficit by the

00:11:44.080 way is going to resolve this problem until the liberals and mark carney in particular who wrote a

00:11:48.920 book about it is prepared to completely renounce the folly of those policies uh canada is going to

00:11:54.240 continue to suffer and these kind of woke policies might go well in the short term because it's free

00:11:58.460 money but at the end of the day we all know who pays the free money our kids and our grandchildren

00:12:03.500 and that's a shame on my generation who does this kind of nonsense yeah i mean in this case we're

00:12:08.420 talking about almost 10 billion dollars over the next five years to to bring down the well to

00:12:14.200 increase the tax credit for canadians uh makes you wonder if it makes more sense just to eliminate

00:12:20.400 the tax altogether but i guess the government doesn't want to do that because they would

00:12:25.520 rather decide who gets the break and who doesn't let's talk a little civil servants that they've 0.79

00:12:30.660 hired uh employed right even though they're saying they might give out some pink slips at the end of

00:12:35.020 the day the only the only job growth is is uh grifting and the only job growth is uh the only

00:12:40.280 growth in the economy is grifting and the only jobs that are being created are government jobs that's

00:12:45.220 not how you run an economy and mark carney being an economist knows that full well without anybody

00:12:49.840 producing anything of value in this country or investment coming to this country to support

00:12:54.220 that kind of investment into new capital into new investments into new equipment into new pipelines

00:12:58.960 in a new manufacturing we are sitting ducks and until we get our heads out of the sand we're going

00:13:05.060 to wind up putting our entire body six feet under i mean you talk to a lot of people out there

00:13:11.660 in milton and uh i mean and you know a lot of people who voted for for the liberals last time around

00:13:19.220 are they still uh online with mark carney or are they starting to wonder if they made the right

00:13:25.340 decision oh they're still online with him uh because they uh they haven't felt the full effect

00:13:30.520 them they themselves as i said when their pensions begin to get pushed back when we see a bond rating

00:13:36.420 agency that has the guts and the courage to recognize that you can't borrow forever and there's no

00:13:41.080 money coming in this country also of course we're talking about uh chinese money uh come to support

00:13:46.280 whatever we want we know that means china with everything with china is a one way street it's 0.96

00:13:52.120 not about you it's dumping their products in your wealthy country robbing it depredating it and at the

00:13:57.640 end of the day uh taking it over or at least uh making it uh insolvent the reality i think for most

00:14:03.620 canadians and i think i'm hearing this is that they haven't quite seen it yet yeah you know there's no

00:14:09.280 one selling homes now the housing market is dead food banks and mark carney had to admit this are

00:14:14.400 going through the roof uh drug use up uh you know criminal activity up i mean the reality is that

00:14:20.380 this is not a canada that is doing very well it's limping it's sick and the last thing it needs

00:14:25.320 is another five years on top of the 10 years of destruction and recklessness that has led us to a

00:14:32.000 country that has a very very bleak future like it or not i don't feel good about it i have kids i have

00:14:36.980 grandchildren and to me we have done a tremendous disservice so those folks who start around with their 1.00

00:14:42.540 little elbows up think about the fact that right now you've managed to put the canadian economy six

00:14:47.460 feet under with the minutes we've got left i want to read this post here by ryan garretson

00:14:54.360 toronto your government wants these cars to be all electric plugged into where wires running from where

00:15:03.860 tens of thousands park on the road the future they dream of isn't based on reality

00:15:11.160 this this is something that you've been talking about for quite some time dan and on both my shows

00:15:18.560 uh it's you really feel it on a day like this at a time like this when winter really rears its ugly head

00:15:25.080 yeah heat pumps don't work when it's minus 35 outside we know that electric vehicles and i see

00:15:30.900 none of them here on the road none i'm looking around and haven't seen any i drove uh from uh the

00:15:36.200 one side of burlington all the way up here to mississauga i have yet to see one now there's some

00:15:39.780 very brave people but they sure as hell went out the night before last when it was minus 32

00:15:43.920 the reality i think for most of us is that as long as the federal government continues to

00:15:48.340 uh pretend uh that we can have this ev mandate the chinese are going to now sell and basically dump 1.00

00:15:54.720 their crappy products into our market if you want an over glorified golf court court cart that's fine or a

00:16:01.080 uh for a four slice toaster on wheels that's what these things amount to uh and look there's a purpose 0.99

00:16:07.320 for those things but i'd say if you're in toronto you need one of these things take the damn transit

00:16:11.080 i mean when it's working of course but on a day where things are are you know are pretty much uh

00:16:16.600 snowed in where uh the infrastructure is at the best you know limited um there's no way we can make

00:16:23.620 uh mark carney's fantasies and the liberal fantasy of ev mandates work unless we're prepared to kill the

00:16:29.940 automotive sector in this country while at the same time pretend that we have the grid that can support

00:16:34.060 this kind of nonsense in a canadian real climate and that's why i think the climate bedwetters

00:16:39.400 aren't anywhere to be found today or in this past week because they now know this is a real canadian

00:16:44.040 winter this is the kind of weather we're quite used to we had it good for a few years there i guess

00:16:48.580 the solar flares have a lot to do with that or the tilting of the axis of the of the earth but the

00:16:53.280 reality is that welcome back to canada and when you're here in canada the last thing you need

00:16:57.380 is to take your little phone and go outside and try to pretend that those batteries are going to work

00:17:01.440 when you need it the most we can't afford to have people showing up with frostbite or dead at our

00:17:06.760 hospitals uh thanks to this trendy idea that we can somehow uh you know reinvent uh science and the

00:17:12.740 laws of thermodynamics to prevent uh to get people to drive vehicles that are both useless unreliable

00:17:18.540 costly and very very burdensome when it comes to the amount of subsidies that the country has had

00:17:23.660 to pay out in order to get these things on the road so that liberals can go around virtue signal

00:17:28.520 yeah but the liberals have painted themselves into a corner over these mandates it would be 0.92

00:17:34.400 quite the climb down for them to say all right we admit it's not going to work so i don't see them

00:17:40.180 changing that anytime soon which means that if canadians want to get rid of these things they'll

00:17:45.200 have to vote the government out that's the only way that i see it what do you think well they'll have

00:17:49.240 to vote the federal government they'll have to vote provincial conservatives out because it appears

00:17:52.460 appears that doug ford is uh once again back on board with this kind of nonsense you've lost as a you

00:17:57.760 did the thing last year at bright drop vans i still see some of these things driving around

00:18:01.460 someone yesterday and laughed at the guys he rolled rolled to the way he actually opened up

00:18:05.600 the little door on the side i said so how many hours you have left on that thing he said i got

00:18:09.600 about 30 minutes i gotta find a place to charge this thing the company he bought it for got it

00:18:14.700 for nothing that's the point but your taxes and mine went to pay for that and general motors

00:18:18.640 is walking away from evs like it's a bad odor the reality here is that it may work in

00:18:23.640 california and yes it'll work in florida but it sure as hell is it practical or will work up here

00:18:27.880 and so for liberals not to walk this back i mean the uh the consequences are pretty grim

00:18:33.460 the destruction of the automotive sector in ontario the number one uh sector good luck with that

00:18:38.260 and uh good luck trying to campaign the next election in any part of what's left of our

00:18:43.320 manufacturing sector here in ontario we are writing our own uh economic death warrants by pursuing

00:18:49.520 something that the world has long since walked away from i'm in a 2014 at mercedes-benz it's got

00:18:55.620 300 000 kilometers on they don't make them in germany anymore they're going to send them over to hungary

00:18:59.380 because they have followed the climate nonsense to the point where there's no more manufacturing

00:19:03.680 we are de-manufacturing we are of course de-industrializing our economy while at the same

00:19:09.120 time making canadians more dependent on government at the same time watching the uh the uh the wealth

00:19:14.520 the health the well-being and of course uh the prosperity of canadians go literally out the

00:19:19.300 window and i for one i warned about this knew it was going to happen it's now happened and it's

00:19:24.640 now real anybody who does want to see that take the blinders off your eyes wake up smell the coffee

00:19:29.560 and get real dan how do people support canadians for affordable energy yeah come online affordableenergy.ca

00:19:37.260 i do a lot of my own work a lot of my own background 18 years as you mentioned in the in the

00:19:43.040 in the house of commons but i also worked in the private sector i've worked in the energy field

00:19:47.140 and i've worked of course in the automotive sector so all those things can be put to good use i need

00:19:51.300 your help any contributions ideas and of course any financial is something we always welcome and

00:19:57.280 we certainly do that here now dan mctay behind the wheel thank you so much for coming on the show

00:20:02.820 good to be here thanks for having me mark cheers cheers and you have an opportunity to support juno news

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Juno News - January 27, 2026

Carney APOLOGIZES to Trump over WEF speech？!

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