Juno News - Carney conflicts exposed, so CBC attacks POILIEVRE

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Wyatt Claypool here for Juno News. As ridiculous as it sounds, I don't think

00:00:08.720 that you guys have a low enough opinion of the liberal legacy media in this country. 0.76

00:00:14.100 Every single month, somehow their competence goes down and their liberal party bias goes up.

00:00:20.620 So, you know how Mark Carney currently has this conflict of interest scandal? You know,

00:00:26.220 the liberal prime minister of Canada? Well, according to liberal activists online and CBC host

00:00:33.600 David Cochran, this is actually a story about Pierre Polyev's hypocrisy, the conservative leader.

00:00:41.700 Now, if this doesn't make any sense to you, it's because it doesn't make any sense. David Cochran

00:00:47.420 is going to try and call out Polyev for something that happened 15 years ago that is not even

00:00:54.000 equivalent to the current situation. Because 15 years ago, Pierre Polyev defended an incoming

00:01:00.040 Stephen Harper chief of staff, Nigel Wright, from overblown accusations that his conflicts of interest

00:01:06.180 in business prevented him from being able to work in government. Here is David Cochran making this

00:01:12.980 weird comparison to try and find hypocrisy in Polyev. And then I want to cut ahead to former 0.99

00:01:19.300 MP Lisa Wright absolutely eviscerating him over this false equivalency.

00:01:23.840 But I want to play part of an exchange. This is at committee. And Stephen Harper's chief of staff

00:01:29.200 at the time, Nigel Wright, very successful businessman, came into public service with a lot

00:01:33.280 of holdings and had to set up some of the mechanisms similar to what the prime minister

00:01:36.200 is going through now. He was at committee. And one of the MPs asking him questions was a young

00:01:42.160 man from Carlton Nepean at the time, just have a listen to this. Can you explain the purpose behind

00:01:48.960 the blind trust? This blind trust follows a form that was created and drafted by the ethics commissioner.

00:01:57.520 I transferred all of my controlled assets into the blind trust in late October. The blind trustee is

00:02:06.160 the legal owner of them all now. And I'm not to have any communication of any sort, no direction,

00:02:11.840 no advice, no information about what's in there. I do not know and will not know what's in there.

00:02:16.560 There seems to be some misunderstanding in the way that this has been debated by

00:02:21.600 some members. We have to recognize that there are going to be people in this world of public service

00:02:28.640 that come from different backgrounds that obviously the government interacts with,

00:02:35.840 but that that is a strength for our country. I'm not sure where David Cochran is finding

00:02:43.280 hypocrisy in this clip. He is defending Nigel Wright from people saying that because he worked in business

00:02:48.640 and holds shares in a company and is on temporary leave from Onyx, that he cannot work in government

00:02:55.680 at all. Nobody is saying that you can't have investments and work in government, have business

00:03:00.320 interests and work in government. It's the ability to actually affect policy that financially benefits

00:03:06.720 you that is the problem. And with Mark Carney, when you look at the list of 103 companies,

00:03:12.720 one big red flag that falls onto the field is that he, a lot of his policy revolves around giving

00:03:20.560 subsidies, grants, and tax breaks to companies like this, green energy companies, battery companies.

00:03:27.600 You have solar and wind, all these renewable companies that he has money invested into,

00:03:33.600 and they were a massive part of his campaign of wanting to create a green energy corridor and such.

00:03:40.800 He also has a modular homes program. What does Brookfield Asset Management invest heavily into?

00:03:47.600 Modular homes. This is the problem. At no point was Nigel Wright pushing something in government

00:03:53.440 that ended up violating his conflict of interest agreements and the blind trust. He had set up a

00:03:59.440 blind trust, had far more narrow investments than Mark Carney did, and he recused himself from making

00:04:05.120 certain decisions, from being involved in certain decisions. And by the way, the man's not the prime

00:04:09.600 minister. He's the chief of staff. He is somebody who doesn't have the ability to sign an order. He

00:04:15.760 doesn't have the ability to pass legislation. He can influence. And we should have conflict of

00:04:20.320 interest protections for people who could potentially influence a decision in their favor. But there was

00:04:26.080 never any idea that that Nigel Wright was warping government policy in order to benefit himself. But

00:04:32.960 let's move on to the next part of what David Cochran says. Then I want to jump over to what Lisa

00:04:37.120 Wright follows up with. Okay, that's from 2010. We went back four years earlier too. The video for this

00:04:42.640 doesn't exist, but the transcript. This is another committee appearance where Mr. Polyev, who's the

00:04:47.760 deputy and Carlton MP at the time, debating with Duff Conacher from Democracy Watch. This is when the

00:04:52.720 conservatives were bringing in the Accountability Act. And he defends blind trust saying, we would not

00:04:57.680 know anything since it's a completely blind trust. We would not know what we held. That's why it's blind.

00:05:03.440 You would have no knowledge that you owned it. So how could you possibly be voting in favor of your

00:05:08.320 private interests if you didn't know what those private interests were? Okay, but applying this

00:05:15.760 to Mark Carney doesn't work because Mark Carney knows he's heavily invested in certain industries

00:05:21.280 where if he just throws subsidies to those industries or tax breaks, one or more of his

00:05:26.160 companies is going to benefit. One or more of the companies he has a financial interest in is

00:05:31.200 obviously going to get some of that government money. Brookfield also works heavily with government.

00:05:37.120 Yes, Nigel Wright, when he was with Onyx, was with a company that had heavy investment in the

00:05:45.600 airspace industry. And so when there was an issue around the government trying to acquire F-35 jets,

00:05:52.560 he recused himself. And by the way, do you know who criticized him at the time for recusing himself?

00:05:58.640 The CBC. CBC News. In 2012, I have read this article. They go after him for basically like,

00:06:08.320 I guess, not being able to perform adequately because he had to recuse himself. It says,

00:06:14.080 Nigel Wright, the prime minister's chief of staff, has carefully and completely stayed out of any

00:06:18.240 discussions of the procurement issue since he took up his post in January 2011, according to several

00:06:24.080 government sources. Wright has had to abide by a so-called ethical wall put in place to ensure

00:06:31.360 that there is no conflict between files he dealt with in corporate Canada and those he would come

00:06:36.320 across at his political desk. And they go on to basically say that people are criticizing him

00:06:41.600 because he's not performing adequately as chief of staff if he's having to recuse himself. So they

00:06:47.440 criticized him for actually being ethical. I'm going to cut over to some other information a bit

00:06:53.760 later, but now I got to get back to the clip of Lisa Wright taking them to task over this false 0.98

00:06:59.120 equivalency. So here we go with that. On that? Yes, of course it's worth his time because there is

00:07:07.440 going to be mistakes made in the next two years and he gets to point back to this point in time when he

00:07:11.760 indicated that this was going to be problematic. And number two, I know that we've gone down the path of

00:07:16.560 judging Mr. Polyev on everything he said in the past. When Mr. LeBlanc, when Minister LeBlanc comes

00:07:22.160 forward and defends the choice of the prime minister, I hope that you read back to him his

00:07:27.120 Hansard when he went after Mr. Wright on exactly the same topic and ask him whether or not it's something

00:07:32.640 he should be doing. Is it hypocritical of him now defending the prime minister when in fact he went

00:07:38.240 after Mr. Wright in the past? And I think if you're going to do that, then that's fair ball. If not,

00:07:42.560 you're beating up on conservatives where they don't need to be to beat up on.

00:07:45.280 Okay. I mean, Mr. Polyev raised the issue today. This is why we're examining this issue today.

00:07:53.280 The man's such a weasel. Now again, these are not equivalent situations. The prime minister has

00:07:59.280 far more power than a prime minister's chief of staff does. And Nigel Wright had a far more narrow

00:08:06.080 band of interest that would have been more difficult for him to actually be able to benefit himself

00:08:10.640 through in government. And he was actually abiding by the ethical wall to the point the Canadian

00:08:17.680 Broadcasting Corporation wrote articles about how people are criticizing him for not being involved

00:08:22.720 in these very important decisions when he ethically could not be. And obviously, I have no problem,

00:08:28.320 you have no problem with people from the business world going into the political world. But what we

00:08:33.520 don't want to have happen is what has happened with Mark Carney. The thing that Pierre Polyev called him

00:08:38.880 out for was the fact that he was lying about his conflicts of interest, acting like all he had was

00:08:45.040 some property and cash when that wasn't true. And also, his campaign promises and a lot of things

00:08:51.600 he had been advising when he was Justin Trudeau's economic advisor lining up very neatly with his

00:08:57.680 own financial interests. It's not that he is specifically signing a check over to a Brookfield

00:09:03.120 company or subsidiary. He's not giving money to a battery company that he is specifically part of.

00:09:08.400 I wouldn't know about that. But it is kind of curious when your housing program involves modular

00:09:14.480 homes. And that is something that Brookfield Asset Management is famously heavily invested into.

00:09:21.200 But I want to jump over now to this other clip. Or actually, let's just look at the Accountability

00:09:26.720 Act, because that was the other side swipe that David Cochran had taken on Polyev. I'm just using

00:09:32.080 the AI overview, but to read the actual Accountability Act would be hundreds of pages. But he was

00:09:39.280 criticizing Polyev for standing up for the Accountability Act. You know that thing that the

00:09:44.080 liberals never passed when they were in government and probably would have never done it if Harper

00:09:48.320 hadn't done it. Apparently, Polyev is a hypocrite for standing up for the Accountability Act that 0.94

00:09:54.240 includes measures around transparency and trying to set up ethical walls. This is generally what the 0.96

00:10:00.880 Accountability Act does. This is what it says. This act enacted in 2006 to aim to enhance transparency

00:10:07.040 and accountability in the Canadian federal government. It included measures like strengthening whistleblower

00:10:11.920 protections, increasing oversight of crown corporations, and implementing stricter rules for

00:10:16.320 lobbying political donations. The act has expanded to the scope of Access to Information Act and the

00:10:21.360 Privacy Act to include more government institutions and crown corporations. And then it also goes over

00:10:26.160 conflicts of interest. The Federal Accountability Act also provided for the appointment of a conflict

00:10:31.520 of interest and ethics commissioner.

00:10:33.040 So yeah, what is Polyev hypocritical about? The whole point is that right now, Mark Carney is really

00:10:41.920 stretching the idea that he is right now held accountable, that he is abiding by an actual ethical

00:10:50.080 shield. All Mark Carney has to do is not be directly involved in a decision that would benefit one of his

00:10:56.960 companies. He can pass a blanket measure, a blanket piece of legislation that benefits the whole

00:11:02.720 industry knowing that it's going to benefit his assets. He just has to not be the one who specifically

00:11:08.560 orders them to give something to a Brookfield company or to one of the renewable companies

00:11:12.800 who's invested in or to make sure that Brookfield doesn't get the modular home. And by the way,

00:11:17.840 this is something I pointed out before. The problem with politics is that you're always oftentimes sucking 0.99

00:11:24.560 up to the leader of your party. What would a maybe dubiously ethical minister of the Liberal Party do

00:11:32.160 if they wanted to curry favor with Mark Carney and they're a minister? Well, maybe it just happened that

00:11:38.960 a lot of the people that you give contracts to just happen to be companies that you know that Mark

00:11:45.440 Carney holds an interest in. It's really not that difficult for Mark Carney to benefit himself in

00:11:50.400 government even with plausible deniability. That's the problem. This is why Conservative Party leader

00:11:56.320 Pierre Polyev rightfully called on Carney to sell his assets, actually turn them into cash, so there's no

00:12:03.200 chance of there being any ethical issue with him as prime minister. You can even take the cash and then

00:12:09.440 give it to an actual blind trust who invests it in a shotgun banner where you couldn't possibly start

00:12:15.600 trying to you know maneuver government decision making towards industries that benefit your holdings.

00:12:22.560 But now I just want to jump over to one of these other articles that was written about the situation

00:12:28.400 with Nigel Wright. So here is the articles that were coming out at the time. This is 2010 from the Globe and

00:12:37.520 Mail written by Gloria Galloway, who I actually believe is still there, so you know good job to her. 0.87

00:12:42.320 But the thing is that this whole article, when you go over the actual issues with the ethical wall and

00:12:51.840 what Nigel Wright was effectively saying that he would abide by, he held his end of the bargain and

00:12:58.160 the actual areas that he was not allowed to touch in were far more limited. This is a good quote from

00:13:05.120 it. Mr. Wright surprised MPs by telling them that Prime Minister Stephen Harper, a man, quote,

00:13:09.600 whose values align with mine in every conceivable way, unquote, had recruited him in March to fill

00:13:14.320 the office's top job after the departure of Guy Giorino who leaves next month. The announcement that

00:13:19.840 Mr. Wright had been hired was not made until late September. He began working with the ethics

00:13:24.640 commissioner Mary Dawson in April to ensure that conflicts of interest would be avoided and during the

00:13:30.480 summer she recommended that he erect an ethical wall. So he didn't become the actual chief of staff until

00:13:40.560 January of 2011 and in April of 2010, less than halfway through that year, he was already working

00:13:49.360 with the ethics commissioner in order to make sure that he was not going to violate his conflict of

00:13:55.920 interest agreement, that there were going to be ethical walls in place. This is how an actual

00:14:00.800 ethical person acts. Nigel Wright was doing it ahead of time. When did Mark Carney do it? Not until he

00:14:08.160 absolutely had to. He ran an entire election lying about his conflicts of interest and then not until

00:14:15.440 suddenly people kept, not until now has he actually disclosed what companies he has assets in that he was

00:14:22.080 lying about. And he has put up the thinnest of walls between him and the ability to affect decisions

00:14:28.480 in order to benefit himself. It's not an ethical wall with him. It is like a thin veil that he can

00:14:34.800 obviously see through. But this is what the liberal media and people online are chirping about. It's

00:14:42.320 it's pure Polyev. It's pure Polyev being a hypocrite because he defended Nigel Wright. You have this guy here, 0.97

00:14:49.360 Dieter McPherson, who is a stalwart liberal and NDP defender online. I know it's a mostly anonymous

00:14:58.640 account, but you would be shocked how many anonymous accounts drive far more engagement and shape

00:15:04.480 narratives more than people who actually put their real face and name out there. But he clipped this

00:15:09.840 saying that pure Polyev is a big hypocrite or something. We already brought in such legislation. 0.95

00:15:15.200 It's called the Accountability Act. It was our first priority and our first bill. We passed it in

00:15:22.320 the House of Commons. And happily, all of our government, including and especially our the

00:15:27.840 Prime Minister's chief of staff, have been following it ever since the same. So the people laughing in the

00:15:35.200 background are basically saying, well, this is all ridiculous. You guys are not actually ethical. 0.79

00:15:41.280 There needs to be bigger barriers because that's what Polyev is addressing there. The idea that the

00:15:44.960 barriers, the ethical walls are not good enough. Well, since the Liberals came into office in 2015,

00:15:52.160 and now they are still in in the year 2025, my goodness, have they made the Accountability Act

00:15:58.080 stronger? Have they done anything in order to increase ethics in government to increase transparency?

00:16:04.400 No. If anything, they've been bulldozing a lot of it, maybe not changing it, but just avoiding the

00:16:10.560 ethics commissioner at all costs, giving out sole source contracts to liberal insiders left and right,

00:16:15.680 taking slaps on the wrist here and there, moving on and not even attempting to do better. But this

00:16:21.040 Deere McPherson person says, here is pure Polyev defending the use of the blind trust for Harper's

00:16:26.160 chief of staff and referencing the legislation below with a laughing face, because apparently this is

00:16:31.760 hilarious. They've caught pure Polyev. No, they have not. Because again, I don't, I, I, I, for some 0.96

00:16:39.200 reason, need to clarify that different situations are different. Nigel Wright was not the prime

00:16:45.520 minister. Do you know, by the way, the one scandal Nigel Wright had in government, it was around the Mike

00:16:52.000 Duffy scandal. Mike Duffy, the then senator, was billing taxpayers for food at home and all this other

00:16:58.560 ridiculous stuff that taxpayers should not have to pay for. And do you know how Nigel Wright was caught

00:17:03.920 up in the scandal and accused of unethical behavior? Because out of his own pocket, he paid back the

00:17:10.560 taxpayer money that Mike Duffy had been pilfering. And by the way, that was the most overblown scandal

00:17:16.720 of my lifetime. Obviously, I'm not that old. But my goodness, even if I lived to be 100, I probably

00:17:22.400 wouldn't see something more overblown in Canadian politics. That was like a, you know, a flagship

00:17:28.320 scandal to argue that Mark, that Stephen Harper needed to be removed from government and replaced

00:17:33.600 by a snowboarding instructor, Justin Trudeau, in which that would be considered a laughable thing

00:17:39.360 to bring up under Justin Trudeau's government, because he was generating multimillion billion

00:17:45.520 dollar scandals, hundreds of millions of dollars going missing, 50 million dollars going to GC

00:17:51.360 Strategies to make an app that probably only cost half a million, the WE charity scandal, SNC Lavalin,

00:17:57.360 the Ajakon Island, and we were supposed to be all up in arms that some random old senator had billed

00:18:04.720 like 90,000 dollars for like buying steak or whatever. Bad. And Nigel Wright was dragged through the mud

00:18:13.440 because he paid off the money and they said he shouldn't have paid it off. He should have blown

00:18:17.440 the whistle on Mike Duffy. He should have reported him. He shouldn't have tried to sweep this under

00:18:21.440 the rug. It wasn't even like hiding it. He just fixed the issue in a way that maybe he shouldn't

00:18:26.320 have. But in a way, I consider that more noble. He doesn't want to affect his own party's electoral

00:18:31.360 chances because of this ridiculous senator's actions who Harper didn't even appoint. And so he pays it off to 0.86

00:18:38.320 avoid the scandal. The scandal breaks out and he's blamed for paying the money back. But whatever,

00:18:44.240 whatever. And again, the liberal media was so mad about that. That was the worst thing ever. It's

00:18:50.960 going to bring down the Harper government. And then every time there was a scandal around Justin Trudeau

00:18:56.240 and there are scandals around Mark Carney, it's the equivocation. It's the, well, something happened

00:19:02.240 25 years ago. Well, somebody once bought an expensive glass of orange juice. Well,

00:19:09.920 they're paying us $1.2 billion a year. What do you want us to do? Because again,

00:19:13.680 the CBC and so many other liberal media organizations are effectively just liberal party

00:19:19.680 front groups. That is why this new scandal from the CBC with Travis Dunraj leaving his hosting job

00:19:28.880 to basically blow the whistle on them is so good for Canadians to see. So many people who do not know

00:19:34.480 how corrupt the CBC is need to see one of the hosts come out themselves and say that this is what

00:19:39.600 actually goes on. It's not just conservatives out there accusing them of bias. It is biased top to

00:19:45.520 bottom. But anyways, that should be it for me today, guys. Make sure to subscribe to Juno News,

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Juno News - July 19, 2025

Carney conflicts exposed, so CBC attacks POILIEVRE

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