Juno News - July 03, 2026


Carney goes ALL-IN on Canadian energy?!

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After a decade of profiting from pushing a so-called "green" initiative, Prime Minister Mark Carney now says Canada should produce as much oil as people want. It's a massive shift from his previous statements on climate change and the need to reduce carbon emissions.

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00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Carney's dire warnings about climate change have given way to produce as
00:00:09.840 much oil as possible and sell it to whoever is buying. If it's real, it's a massive shift from
00:00:15.940 his past statements. Let's listen to Carney's most recent comments about energy and Canada's
00:00:21.580 global role as producer. The truth is, nobody knows how long the global economy will rely on
00:00:28.360 conventional energy. But while it does, as much of that energy as possible should come from Canada,
00:00:36.400 produced responsibly and with a clear focus on lowering emissions over time.
00:00:40.820 Well, compare that with his previous statements and what he has written about, that oil is
00:00:46.640 destroying the planet, about the importance of meeting emission targets he now says will not
00:00:52.000 be met, and about the existential threat of climate change. Now he's saying what conservatives
00:00:58.520 have been saying, that the world will be using oil indefinitely and that Canada should be a top
00:01:03.940 producer of it. After a decade of profiting from pushing a so-called green initiative,
00:01:11.200 like decarbonizing oil, for example, now conservative Pierre Polyev calls the sudden
00:01:16.720 change in attitude, an illusion. He was the head of the U.N. agency seeking to shut down oil and
00:01:24.000 gas. He was the head of a banking alliance seeking to defund the oil and gas sector.
00:01:30.420 He advised Trudeau that the carbon tax needed to be bigger and broader. He opposed the Northern
00:01:35.900 Gateway pipeline, which would be delivering a half million barrels of oil to the West Coast today
00:01:40.560 had the liberals not killed it and so now he claims that he's changed his mind
00:01:45.540 that he was wrong all along well if that's the case then why hasn't he eliminated c69
00:01:53.320 the anti-development law why hasn't he eliminated the ban on shipping oil off the northwest coast
00:01:59.860 of british columbia and why is he going ahead with a 500 percent increase in the industrial
00:02:07.000 carbon tax. Our guest today is Michelle Ferreri, who is a former Conservative Member of Parliament
00:02:13.420 for Peterborough. Welcome, Michelle. Thanks so much for having me, Mark. Great to be here.
00:02:17.820 All right, let's talk a little bit about this apparent flip by Prime Minister Carney. I mean,
00:02:22.480 this was net zero guy. This guy has been pushing to meet our climate targets, our Paris targets.
00:02:29.300 This guy is all about the existential threat of oil and gas to the climate, the destruction of
00:02:35.660 the planet now all of a sudden well it sounds suspiciously like drill baby drill he's saying
00:02:42.140 you know we should produce as much oil as people want so what do we make of this you know i think
00:02:49.620 mark carney is working harder than my air conditioner today to convince people of uh who
00:02:55.280 he is and how he talks out of both sides of his mouth you know the chickens have come home to
00:02:59.580 roost here mark and i think canadians who who voted for him or who took a chance on mark carney
00:03:04.840 are starting to be like, what is happening with this man? And, you know, I think the fractures
00:03:10.580 and the fissures inside of his caucus are starting to bubble up. Hence, you saw Stephen Guibault walk
00:03:15.220 away. You know, all of these people I've been watching online. I follow all different accounts.
00:03:20.040 I encourage all people to do that, to change up your algorithm. These environmentalists who Mark
00:03:24.800 Carney has been sort of the king of the cult of is they're upset. You know, if we go through all
00:03:30.380 of this. Some of you may remember, I'm just going to pull up some of these quotes here,
00:03:35.920 Mark Carney's book Values that he is so proud of. These are just a couple of the statements
00:03:42.440 in this guy's book. The Canadian federal carbon pricing framework is a model for others. The
00:03:50.160 future path for carbon prices should be predictable. The best approach, sorry, the best approach
00:03:58.700 is a revenue neutral progressive carbon tax. Meaningful carbon prices are a cornerstone of
00:04:04.980 any effective climate policy framework. Like you have to appreciate the fundamental belief
00:04:10.880 of Mark Carney and the liberals is climate activism. It is actually like they're defining
00:04:17.420 cornerstone. Like I remember sitting in the house as a member of parliament when then Mark Holland
00:04:22.340 literally went ballistic in the house of commons, accusing the conservatives of setting the planet
00:04:28.440 on fire for taking a road trip with their family in a car. These people are radical. But what's
00:04:35.440 going on? Well, guess what, Mark? Everything that the Conservatives have said in that you need to
00:04:41.580 develop our resources ethically and fairly, which is what Canada does, we have everything the world
00:04:46.760 needs. Guess what? We have to develop our resources. So where is Mark Carney? As the inflation
00:04:53.580 continues to increase, as grocery prices, which he said to judge himself on, continue to go up,
00:04:58.440 now he's trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth and he's hoping you don't notice he's hoping
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00:06:17.500 better to be safe than sorry. How much of this is about the apparent failure of CUSMA slash USMCA?
00:06:24.680 We now know that President Trump and his team have said, you know, we're not going to renew
00:06:30.920 this thing for another 16 years. We'll go on, I guess, the next move is what, annual reviews of
00:06:37.200 this. So what he's doing now is, well, we're in big trouble. If we don't have this trade deal,
00:06:44.120 we got to find something else and so let's sell everybody oil he's he's not going to sell anybody
00:06:52.260 oil so let's let's just put that out there he's going to tell you he's going to do that because
00:06:57.800 he's going to talk to one group of people this is this is a liberal playbook they do it in ethnic
00:07:03.220 groups they do it in climate they do it in environmental they do it in social program
00:07:07.500 thing they they send one group of liberal mps into one room and say one thing they send another
00:07:12.580 group of liberal MPs into another room and they say another thing, hence you have the divide in
00:07:17.280 our country. Like this is not leadership. Like a great leader says the same thing to all people
00:07:24.140 and stands for something, right? He is trying to be all things and he's, but at the core of who
00:07:31.120 he is, he doesn't believe in oil and gas. He doesn't believe it, right? So, and to your point
00:07:36.780 about kuzma mark this guy another lie he promised 30 days from what was it july something he would
00:07:44.920 have a deal he ran a full campaign yes he ran a full campaign that he was the trump whisperer
00:07:51.900 that he was the master negotiator that he was he was guys guys guys guys there's a reason mark
00:07:58.760 carney has a nickname in the uk of the unreliable boyfriend he is the classic guy that tells you
00:08:06.200 honey i promise this is the last time honey i promise i'm gonna get better honey honey
00:08:13.400 he is not who he says he is sounds like you have some experience with that sort of thing
00:08:21.160 it's just it's classic and you know justin was the same right and i he he he justin was advised
00:08:28.760 by mark kearney like when you understand how it all works you're like oh oh you know so this is
00:08:37.360 just who he is and he's getting caught he's getting caught and he's and so the the number one tactic
00:08:42.980 of the political agenda and the liberals is distraction so when they're under pressure or
00:08:49.220 they are being scrutinized a condo bailout for his friends and family like now we've just got
00:08:54.560 confirmation this is just coming across when we do this interview they're going to have a
00:08:58.380 emergency committee meeting on this because we know that it's, it's Mark Carney directly
00:09:06.180 benefiting from this condo bailout. And he has to answer for that. So he's, he's under hot water in
00:09:12.660 all accounts. And now he's trying to distract you. And I just hope, I just hope the people get
00:09:20.380 enough access to enough information like your show, Mark, where they're actually able to
00:09:24.980 scrutinizing, critically think, maybe this guy isn't quite what he sold us he was.
00:09:30.700 Unfortunately, he's got to get some results at some point, because even the polling is suggesting
00:09:35.340 that people are starting to maybe question whether or not this guy is more talk than action
00:09:40.980 on many of the promises that he made, including getting that deal, getting a victorious deal
00:09:46.420 with the Americans. That has come and gone. That ship has sailed. Doesn't look like it's
00:09:50.740 going to be extended. And so now he's talking about oil. It's almost like, well, forget about
00:09:56.200 Trump for a minute. Look over here. You know, we can always drill, drill, baby, drill. I mean,
00:10:01.560 unfortunately, as has been pointed out by Pierre Polyev, and I'm just going to read part of his
00:10:07.060 post here. If so, why go on hiking the industrial carbon tax by 500 percent? You know, why has he
00:10:14.580 not scrapped a single Trudeau-era anti-development law? Why are 500 projects still waiting for
00:10:21.940 federal approval? Why has he not used his unprecedented powers in Bill C-5 to approve
00:10:28.220 a single project? So this is the problem. You know, on one hand, he says, we should be selling
00:10:33.320 oil to the world because we don't know how much longer they're going to use oil. Now forget climate
00:10:37.360 change for a minute. Forget the existential threat facing humanity. We could sell to everybody who
00:10:42.620 wants it. So he's saying that on one hand, but on the other hand, his actions remain those of
00:10:49.040 somebody who still believes in net zero, to your point, who hasn't given up the dream of destroying
00:10:54.360 the oil sector. So he's going to have to do something. He can't, he's got to pick a lane
00:10:59.020 here. What do you think? He won't pick a lane. This is his strategy, Mark. And he's banking on
00:11:06.560 you and he's banking on everybody else, not noticing because he has an impressive resume
00:11:10.920 and he's a nice guy and he's you know he's all of these things and he's trying his best
00:11:16.840 you know at speeds never before seen remove intra-provincial barrier trade barriers
00:11:22.480 uh all of these things where where are we at where are we at with any of this and let me remind folks
00:11:28.340 mark carney has a majority there is zero zero excuse for not getting done the things that
00:11:39.120 need to get done. He says the things he, that the conservatives tell him to say, he says those words
00:11:45.000 and does the exact opposite. Hence, you have the results on the ground of suffering and misery for
00:11:52.180 the Canadian people. You know, like when you look at things like tomatoes that are up 47%,
00:11:57.920 food is never been more expensive. Inflation continues to go up. Like these are the direct
00:12:04.660 results of a guy who is a banker who is making financial decisions with your money for his
00:12:13.200 benefit and he's gotten away with it up to this point because he throws out his resume he throws
00:12:20.280 out all of these things i leave people with this there are many many great people in this world
00:12:25.400 or there are many many people in this world with great resumes that are incompetent so i ask you
00:12:33.320 to look beyond that i don't even think the media carried water for trudeau the way they do with
00:12:39.280 this guy so i think that's a big part of how he's been able to quote unquote get away with it but
00:12:45.380 again we're seeing the softening of numbers there i don't know if it's just a temporary thing but
00:12:50.400 all of a sudden you know he's he's in the 30s now high 30s rather than the 40s and i think people
00:12:57.180 are taking a long hard look i think they were prepared to give him a lot of runway but that
00:13:01.520 runway is starting to shrink a little bit. How does the media carry water for him on this?
00:13:06.100 You know, I can understand. It's easy for them simply to point to Trump and say,
00:13:09.680 this is Trump being Trump. That's why we can't get a deal done. So forget that promise that
00:13:14.280 Carney made during the last election campaign because Trump, and now he's flipped on oil
00:13:20.240 and he's got issues with his own caucus, supposedly, unless, of course, that is just
00:13:25.520 a whole lot of, I don't know, kabuki theater going on there with people like Stephen Gilbo
00:13:30.640 leaving and others pointing at the failure of the liberal climate agenda to continue as it was
00:13:39.600 under Justin Trudeau. Let me ask you that. I mean, do you think that's real? I mean, could
00:13:44.780 Kearney face more pushback given this latest statement about energy from his own caucus?
00:13:51.580 Yes. Whatever you see on the outside is happening on the inside, Mark. So if he is having this
00:13:59.460 uh fracture outside with his own base of liberals who are you know very hyper focused on the
00:14:05.920 environment and want carbon tax and they want all of these things you can damn well bet it's
00:14:11.300 happening inside of his caucus right you have you have mps like adam vancouverton who are like
00:14:18.440 cult leaders when it comes to this kind of stuff stephen gubeau for you know i'm no friend of
00:14:23.980 stephen gubeau and all of these done but at least he walked away right at least he walked away and
00:14:29.180 so I think what you're going to see is you're going to see Mark Carney twist himself in knots
00:14:34.620 trying to explain what he's doing because he is not a person of integrity. Like in the words of
00:14:45.980 Pierre, which I thought was such an effective description, he's a power broker. He's a power
00:14:52.040 broker. He is the guy that exchanges power between people who benefit from power and wealth. And he
00:14:58.360 leaves the little guy behind. I kept saying he was like a CEO. And I had this gentleman reach
00:15:03.180 out to me and he said, Michelle, CEO is not a great term because I know CEOs, they're thoughtful.
00:15:08.280 They do things that better the company. And he said, that's not what Mark Carney is doing. And
00:15:12.440 I said, that's true. It's very true. And so he has a major, major problem and he won't fix it
00:15:20.860 because it's not of something that he can fix.
00:15:25.200 It's not a policy issue, Mark.
00:15:28.280 This is not a policy issue.
00:15:29.940 This is a lack of leadership and competency issue
00:15:32.900 that this man cannot unify people
00:15:35.660 because he doesn't stand for anything.
00:15:39.860 Yeah, except for power.
00:15:41.780 But you wouldn't know it by his demeanor.
00:15:43.720 I mean, I take your point that he's got big problems, 1.00
00:15:46.880 but you see the guy in the pride parade
00:15:50.460 this guy seems to have you know a smile on his face and kind of laughs off tough questions
00:15:56.420 you know or as a tweet that says they've made life more affordable like i thought i was listening to
00:16:01.640 a parody account mark like they have so to your point they have no shame so what you'll see
00:16:08.020 and i've seen this repeatedly with multiple liberal mps because they're just a reflection
00:16:12.040 of leadership they have no shame and they doubled down so when the canadian people say i'm not i'm
00:16:19.580 not comfortable with, you know, exposing my kids to people who are naked in the street. Like, I
00:16:25.520 don't understand why we're doing that. Like, we just want Canadians to feel free to be who they
00:16:29.580 are, right? They double down and they weaponize whatever, you know, conservatives are misogynistic,
00:16:35.780 hateful. No, actually, we just want to protect our kids, keep kids safe, whatever that is,
00:16:40.760 but they will double down. And that's their comms team. Like, I mean, he's done two or three tweets
00:16:46.560 in the last week that i'm like what is going on are you reading this like he wrote a tweet that
00:16:52.700 literally said the number one job of the federal government is public safety do you know what the
00:16:58.340 stats are in canada on public safety it's insane 550 increase in extortion 55 increase in violent
00:17:08.040 crime 75 increase in sexual assaults the number one job so he admits what their number one job is
00:17:14.900 but goes on to pretend like he's doing it when in fact it's an abysmal failure in this country
00:17:20.300 so it's like it is the epitome the i go back to the boyfriend mark the unreliable boyfriend
00:17:26.720 it is the epitome of gaslighting and he hopes that you just are so loyal to him and so happy with
00:17:34.560 you know i'm a liberal that's how i identify so i don't care instead of saying is my life
00:17:40.700 actually better like what have you done that's improved canada and my life michelle thank you
00:17:47.100 so much for coming on the show how do people find you online uh i'm on instagram michelle
00:17:51.300 ferrari canada my website's michelleferrari.com and uh yeah thanks for having me mark thank you
00:17:57.400 for doing what you do in giving people uh an alternate source of media that is you know allows
00:18:03.220 people to think you know if i was to say anything to people i'll leave this really quick story with
00:18:08.560 if you're okay with it a gentleman came to me and he said michelle i'm a conservative but i'm really
00:18:13.360 i'm really upset i don't know that pierre is the right guy and i said do you hear what you're
00:18:18.160 saying and he says what do you mean i said you are literally regurgitating liberal talking points
00:18:24.160 of distraction you are focusing on pierre when mark carney is the man in charge of this country
00:18:30.320 and has no obstacles no barriers to get results and yet you're choosing to focus on that pierre
00:18:36.560 is not in charge mark carney and the liberals are so next time you want to criticize liberals or
00:18:42.000 sorry conservatives or leadership take a look in the liberal that the result of canada's decline
00:18:48.640 is a direct result of liberal policies and do not let them distract you because that is what
00:18:55.120 they do they manipulate the messaging and the media and all of these things and make you look
00:18:59.440 over here look over here when it's them they are it is them they have to be held to account so i
00:19:05.600 I appreciate you, Mark.
00:19:06.880 Well, thank you, because we have to throw a monkey wrench into that messaging.
00:19:10.760 And as long as we do that, then maybe we're doing a job that needs to be done.
00:19:14.960 Thank you so much, Michelle Ferreri.
00:19:16.720 Thanks, Mark. Have a great day.
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