Juno News - Carney Government launches CRIMINAL investigation into JUNO NEWS

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Folks, this episode is brought to

00:00:05.900 you by Unsmoke, but more on them a little later. So we are going to be breaking some big exclusive

00:00:11.160 news here on the show. We broke this yesterday on Juno News, not the kind of report that I like,

00:00:16.540 but Juno News is being investigated by the elections commissioner, specifically my co-founder

00:00:21.880 Kian Bextie received a letter from the elections commissioner, Canada elections commissioner,

00:00:26.900 saying that we are being investigated for some of our reporting during the recent 2025 election.

00:00:32.180 So Kian Bextie is joining me to discuss this. Kian, welcome to the program, although I wish you were

00:00:37.640 joining me on different circumstances, not the kind of news that I like to break, the fact that

00:00:42.260 our government is acting tyrannical and despotic, coming after independent journalists for the crime

00:00:49.300 of reporting. So tell us what we know so far. Yeah. I mean, the independent press gallery put

00:00:55.920 it best. Free elections require a free press, and this is the opposite of that. Going into the next

00:01:02.160 election, journalists are now going to see what has happened here and think twice before they publish

00:01:08.600 something that could embarrass the governing party. You know, I said in the video that I released

00:01:14.320 just yesterday that the journalists in China would get carted off to a black site, never heard from

00:01:22.720 again. Journalists in Iran would be executed for embarrassing the regime. And here in Canada, I'm

00:01:29.280 threatened with five years in prison for covering a story that was hugely consequential for the Canadian

00:01:35.660 general election. And I think that it actually caused Thomas Keeper to be removed and fired by the

00:01:41.140 Liberal Party of Canada. The work that we did was some of the most important journalistic work I've

00:01:47.020 ever done in my life. We spent weeks on this story, hours every day, pouring over it with sources,

00:01:54.380 long interviews, hour-long interviews with sources, hour-long meetings with lawyers to make sure that we

00:01:59.520 were good. Days camped out front of Thomas Keeper's office so that we could speak to him in person and

00:02:05.460 and do our journalistic duty of giving him an opportunity to respond. We did all that. And he,

00:02:12.480 you know, he called the police on us. He lied about me saying that I had assaulted him. Of course,

00:02:16.940 it was all recorded and that didn't happen. Thomas Keeper is a liar. And that was almost part of the 0.98

00:02:22.400 story. And it definitely backed up some of the claims that the sources made about him. But neither

00:02:27.920 here nor there. Now what I'm concerned about is that Justin Trudeau's appointed elections commissioner

00:02:32.800 is investigating me because I believe Thomas Keeper or the Liberal Party, one or the other,

00:02:39.440 sent in a complaint to them so that I would be forced to go through this process.

00:02:44.720 I believe I'm innocent. I mean, I am innocent morally, legally. I'm protected by the Constitution.

00:02:50.360 And what they're going to have to do is say, no, what you did was so embarrassing to the Liberal

00:02:55.700 Party of Canada that we're going to act like the Constitution doesn't protect you here.

00:03:00.500 That it's a reasonable removal of your rights and liberties because it was so damaging to the

00:03:08.240 Liberal Party apparatus is what they're going to have to say when we take this to the Supreme Court 0.83

00:03:11.900 of Canada. Well, it's one of those things, Kian, where I don't like to make ourselves the subject 1.00

00:03:16.520 of the story, right? I would rather report on the real news. I'd rather report on the state of our

00:03:20.440 country and hold the powerful to account. But sometimes you have to defend yourself and what

00:03:25.720 the government is doing to independent journalists in this country, what they're doing to general news

00:03:30.660 is unbelievable in a free society. And it just cannot stand. We couldn't keep our mouths shut

00:03:36.160 and stay quiet about this. It's important that Canadians know what independent journalists go

00:03:40.620 through in our trade and in our practice, that holding government officials and powerful people

00:03:46.200 accountable does come with consequences, especially when you have a politicized government

00:03:50.580 that treats the media like they are the enemy. So I'm going to read a little bit from this notice

00:03:55.920 of investigation that you received back in August. It says, Dear Kian Bextie, you're receiving this

00:04:01.000 letter because the commissioner of Canada's elections, the commissioner, has started an investigation.

00:04:06.540 It examines allegations that you may have violated the Canada Elections Act and charges may be laid

00:04:11.340 against you under the act as a result of this investigation. Based on our initial review,

00:04:15.240 it appears that on or about March 26, 2025, and again on or about March 28, 2025, you published

00:04:21.720 articles in Juneau News alleging that then Liberal Party of Canada candidate Thomas Keeper had conducted

00:04:26.840 himself in a manner that amounted to an offense pursuant to the criminal code, an act of parliament.

00:04:31.660 Specifically, you alleged that he had committed sexual assault and common assault. The allegations

00:04:36.540 have been denied as being false under the act. It is illegal to make a false statement that a candidate

00:04:41.880 has committed an offense under the act of parliament, subsection 91 of the act. And we'll

00:04:47.420 talk a little bit more about the criminal code section 91 because the Trudeau government has

00:04:52.260 politicized that to put a chill on free speech, on social media, and on independent media during

00:04:58.500 elections that was brought in 2019. Now, just to go back to this letter, it says, what is an investigation?

00:05:03.160 The commissioner is responsible for investigating cases of potential wrongdoing under the act.

00:05:07.140 The investigation helped the commissioner gather facts and information to better understand

00:05:12.020 what may have taken place. You can learn more about the investigation by looking at your compliance

00:05:16.420 and enforcement policy at this email address, this website, sorry. What happens next? It says you are

00:05:21.060 not required to cooperate with the investigation. You will not be arrested or detained, but what you

00:05:27.060 say, the information you provide could be used as evidence. You may contact a lawyer or your choice,

00:05:33.480 of your choice at any time. So this is a very serious notice for a journalist to receive. It is very

00:05:39.080 concerning. And like you said, we here at Juno News, you know, this wasn't just a hot take on social

00:05:45.800 media. This wasn't just a drive by smear. This was a very deliberate, very well researched, very thoughtful

00:05:52.360 act of journalism. You consulted with many sources, people coming to you very concerned with the character

00:05:59.400 of this candidate for the Liberal Party, basically telling you that this person has serious concerns

00:06:05.880 around them. As a journalist, it's your duty to inform the public about what those concerns might

00:06:11.240 be. So you went further with the investigation. My understanding is you recorded many, many phone

00:06:17.000 conversations with your sources. And we, you know, we had lawyers review this document. Like you said,

00:06:22.200 you went to Thomas Keeper's office to have him comment on this. So, you know, this is what journalism

00:06:27.960 is. This is what happens behind the scenes. And so the fact that the government is trying to scare

00:06:34.680 you, Kian, it's unbelievable. Why don't I walk the audience through for those who might not remember 0.90

00:06:40.280 the story, might not be top of mind for some folks. Why don't you give us a little bit of background

00:06:45.400 on your investigation of Thomas Keeper? Yeah. So I'll just start by clarifying that nothing that we

00:06:52.600 reported had been, he has not been convicted in a court of law for anything that we reported.

00:07:00.280 What we reported on was primary sources. And without revealing them, it were people that were,

00:07:06.680 was very close to him, knew him intimately, were, used to be friends with him, were his family.

00:07:13.000 We spoke with everyone, everyone we could speak to that surrounded Thomas Keeper, who's a real estate

00:07:19.240 agent in Calgary. At least he was, I don't know if he still is. And he was the liberal candidate for

00:07:24.440 Calgary Confederation. There were really shocking allegations that were made about him that I

00:07:29.240 initially sort of disregarded when I, when I started hearing them because of, you know, it's election,

00:07:35.240 an election, everyone wants to sort of take a stab here and there. And then, and then I heard it again

00:07:41.320 and again, and again, from different people who were not connected at all. Really. And I don't want to

00:07:47.000 rehash all of the allegations here. The, the reporting is still there that you can find it

00:07:51.080 on junonews.com. And I encourage people to go do that because like we said, we, we sourced everything

00:07:57.960 really clearly. We ran it by the lawyers to make sure that we were okay. And we gave Thomas Keeper

00:08:03.400 every opportunity to defend himself. And that's, that's how journalism works, right? He's protected by

00:08:10.120 the laws surrounding defamation. So someone can't just go out during any given day and start lying,

00:08:15.320 spewing terrible things that, that destroy someone's character. That's already illegal in

00:08:20.760 Canada. And we made sure to not do that obviously because we're journalists. But Thomas Keeper either

00:08:27.960 couldn't or, or didn't want to respond to these allegations. And just a few hours after our reporting

00:08:34.520 was published, when it went nationally viral, it was the biggest story of the election at that time,

00:08:41.480 early on. And just a few hours later, Thomas Keeper was stripped off the ballot and replaced

00:08:47.880 by someone else. So we caused some serious, you know, we, we, we did our job in informing the public

00:08:58.200 about someone who was about to become one of the 340 odd board members of this country, right? Like he was

00:09:06.360 going to be a very, very powerful person. In fact, the liberals ended up winning that riding. He would

00:09:11.560 have been a member of parliament, I think. And then we informed the public, we did our job and,

00:09:17.560 and that was it. Right. And then what the liberals did, that wasn't the intention. We weren't trying

00:09:21.000 to get him fired or anything like that, but that was the fallout when we shared the news with the people,

00:09:26.680 the facts with the people, that's, that's what happened. So we did our job and that's what journalists

00:09:31.240 are supposed to do. And now that the dust has settled, the liberals are annoyed at us. We,

00:09:36.920 you know, we obviously landed a lot of punches during that election across the political spectrum

00:09:42.280 and the liberals there in power, they're angry and they send the election commissioner after us.

00:09:47.160 They doesn't cost them a dime, right? But it costs us everything. We already had to hire a lawyer,

00:09:51.960 tens of thousands of dollars already down the drain, and we haven't seen a courtroom yet.

00:09:56.440 And, and we have to pay that, but Thomas Keeper and the liberal party,

00:09:59.800 it's going to cost them nothing to prosecute this case. In fact, it's the taxpayers that are footing

00:10:05.080 the bill to keep me up at night so that I have to stop doing what I'm doing, stop the journalism that

00:10:10.840 I'm doing and worry about going to prison next year. If, if the liberals were able to contort and twist

00:10:17.480 this law, this arcane law that has never been used against the CBC or any of these liberal friendly

00:10:23.960 journalists, just against me, literally just me. They're using this arcane law against me to

00:10:29.800 throw me in prison. Right. Well, this presumably is the test case. And again,

00:10:33.720 we'll get a little bit more into the law in just a minute, Kian. I want to share with our audience,

00:10:39.320 though, a clip because part of being a journalist is asking the subject of a story for comment,

00:10:45.640 right? It's like you are making allegations. Your story is making allegations. You are,

00:10:50.200 it's fully sourced. It's people around him that are actually making those allegations,

00:10:53.400 but you're printing them. And the right thing to do is to tell him about it in advance so that he can

00:10:58.360 comment on the story. So here is a clip of you showing up at his Calgary campaign office

00:11:04.280 so that you can ask him questions again, doing journalism, right? But the liberal mentality is

00:11:09.560 that independent journalists are the enemy and that you don't want to talk to them.

00:11:14.200 And so here we will see not only did Thomas Keeper refuse to talk to you, refuse to comment,

00:11:18.840 refuse to even look at your story. He then called the police and you caught him on tape,

00:11:23.800 misleading those police officers, alleging that you did something that you clearly didn't do. So let's

00:11:28.200 play that clip. Mr. Keeper, Thomas. Hi, Thomas. I just have some questions to ask you. We just,

00:11:36.200 we just have some questions to ask you. Hi, Mr. Keeper. Okay, great. Thank you.

00:11:40.680 No, no, no, sorry. Charlie, come in. I need my dog. Sorry.

00:11:45.560 We just have some questions to ask you. Was there any physical contact or anything like that?

00:11:49.240 No. Any threats? No, not to me, no. Okay. Or to him, obviously. Yeah, just the nature of the

00:11:55.960 interaction is just you ask him for some questions. Yeah. It may seem to be a restraining order.

00:12:00.120 If a restraining order gets granted, there may be a clause in there with no communication.

00:12:04.600 Just be careful. Okay. It gets sort of the copy of it before it is. Okay.

00:12:08.840 So I heard your side of the story. I heard his side of the story. I guess he's claiming you went in and

00:12:12.920 came in kind of hot and made physical contact with him. What? So as anyone could see, you didn't come

00:12:18.840 within two feet of the, right? You tried to, you tried to go up to him to hand him a piece of paper to

00:12:23.000 say, you know, these are the, this is the story I'm going to print about you. Um, but he, he closed the

00:12:27.480 door on your face and came out just so that his enforcer could step between you. And then he clearly

00:12:31.880 told the police that you came in hot, that you confronted him and made contact with him physical. So, uh,

00:12:37.800 clearly, uh, you know, not a person who is, uh, you know, telling the truth or, or, you know,

00:12:43.720 being upfront about what, what happened. And we probably didn't realize he had it on tape there,

00:12:47.480 Kian. Um, but that was what happened back in March. You publish your story, um, the next day. And as you

00:12:53.640 said, uh, it led to the liberals removing this individual as a candidate. So, you know, looking

00:12:59.400 back at that interaction, um, what, what are you thinking? Well, it, it does like, thank God I was recording.

00:13:05.960 Um, uh, we were using these sunglasses that had a camera in them. Whenever you deal with a liberal,

00:13:11.320 you have to make sure there's cameras rolling because you never know what they'll do. They,

00:13:15.080 if, if I had no camera there, who are, who are you going to trust? Some, you know, some journalist

00:13:20.680 who the government already doesn't like, or some real estate agent who's about to become a member

00:13:25.400 of parliament who accuses some kid of assault. Um, it would have been really bad for me. And that was

00:13:31.640 what he was hoping. And we caught him in the lie. Uh, and it really speaks to his character.

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00:14:23.720 you mentioned off the top that it was an arcane law. It's been on the books for a long, long time,

00:14:27.000 but the Trudeau liberals politicized this, right? This was part of their ongoing campaign

00:14:31.560 to censor the internet, to crack down on speech that they don't like, and this was a prime example.

00:14:36.200 So I'm going to go back to November 3rd, 2019. Even the CBC says, watch what you tweet,

00:14:41.960 new election law, chills speech, critics say free speech advocates target draconian section 91 of the

00:14:49.960 Canadian Elections Act. And none other than Justin Trudeau was the one pushing it out. It's kind of

00:14:55.960 amusing to read this article now, Kian, because the justification for the way that they amended

00:15:01.640 this law was to prevent misinformation. And the example that they gave was how Russia interfered

00:15:08.600 with the 2020, with the 2016 U.S. election, which we know at this point was a total hoax. It was a

00:15:13.480 media fabrication that did not happen. And yet the CBC and Justin Trudeau use that as justification to

00:15:19.640 create this new provision in the criminal code. And the, the whole idea is that you cannot,

00:15:26.280 share misinformation, what they deem as misinformation. There were plenty of people

00:15:31.800 who were very critical of it at the time, including the Canadian Constitution Foundation, as well as

00:15:37.080 the Taxpayers Federation. I just want to read specifically from here because this is amusing.

00:15:44.200 It even writes, this is the CBC, the law is ripe for abuse. It says that no charges have yet been brought

00:15:49.800 under section 91 relating to the 2019 campaign. But international experience shows that such laws have

00:15:54.600 become a become a weapon for governments looking to silence online dissidents. And then they use

00:15:59.720 Egypt and Bahrain as examples of activists getting arrested for publishing true stories,

00:16:06.360 right? So even the CBC is mentioning that the law is ripe for abuse. Well, here is our former prime

00:16:13.080 minister, Justin Trudeau, when he was announcing these changes to section 91, he was saying that the

00:16:19.080 reason that they have this kind of law on the book is because the politics of misinformation,

00:16:24.680 fear and division. Let's play that clip.

00:16:26.600 That important choice that citizens must make at election time needs to be informed, needs to be

00:16:35.400 not twisted or torqued in deliberate ways by falsehoods. We're in a world right now where we've

00:16:44.200 seen the impact of the kinds of polarization, the kinds of politics, of misinformation, of fear and

00:16:51.240 division. Whether we look at what's happening in the UK or what's happening in the United States,

00:16:58.200 there are reasons to acquire and to develop new tools to make sure that Canadians and people in

00:17:05.320 democracies can be informed as they want to be, to be able to make the right decisions for their future.

00:17:14.920 So there's always been a law on the book in Canada saying that you can't misinform the public,

00:17:20.040 you can't knowingly misinform the public. The Trudeau government changed that law to remove the word

00:17:25.960 knowingly. So they made it so that even if you were sharing information and you didn't know that

00:17:30.440 it wasn't true, that you could still be charged with a crime. Well, the Canadian Constitution Foundation

00:17:35.480 challenged that law. They actually brought it to court and they saw a victory. So in February of 2021,

00:17:42.280 the Ontario Superior Court Justice struck down Section 91-1 of the Elections Canada Act,

00:17:47.880 ruling that it was an unjustified infringement on free expressions. The Trudeau government removed

00:17:53.480 that term knowingly and the law is back on the books with fines up to $50,000 and up to five years

00:18:01.160 in prison, folks. This is so serious. This is what Kim Bexley is now facing. Kim, what do you think

00:18:06.920 about the law itself and how it's been so politicized? Well, it's exactly what I expect from Justin Trudeau.

00:18:14.120 Man, I do not miss seeing that guy in press conferences. He was couching this law, just

00:18:21.720 waiting for the opportunity to use it against his enemies. And now Mark Kearney is here doing exactly

00:18:28.600 that, taking advantage of a law that has equivalencies in Egypt, Russia, North Korea, China.

00:18:36.200 Um, this is, this is really not something that I ever expected Canada to fall to. Um,

00:18:44.440 you sort of have this idea growing up in this country that it is this really this great place

00:18:50.680 where you do have freedom of speech, religion, assembly, press expression. And then you get a letter

00:18:58.600 in the mail like this and it's, it's pretty unnerving, you know, um, you know, countless days. I, you know,

00:19:08.040 I, I just don't go to sleep anymore because I think what is going to happen to, you know, me, my family,

00:19:14.520 my sources, who the government definitely wants to know so that they can punish them as well. Uh, all

00:19:20.120 because I did this job that, you know, is, is, is not supposed to be this dangerous in a free country.

00:19:28.200 I, if, you know, if, if I was a Russian dissident journalist, you know, I, I, I would go, uh,

00:19:36.120 I, I would tread lightly and I would expect this kind of thing, but you don't expect this kind of

00:19:40.280 thing in Canada until it happens to you. Well, it's unbelievable. So what they're

00:19:44.520 alleging and what the investor, uh, Elections Canada investor is, is, is asserting or is looking into

00:19:49.480 saying that one, you lied about a political candidate during the election and two, that you

00:19:54.440 knowingly lied so that you knew the information that you're publishing was false and you published

00:19:58.520 it anyway. We are alleging that neither we are asserting that neither of those is true. The story

00:20:03.480 that you published is accurate and it is true. The things that you alleged came from those sources.

00:20:09.240 So you're not spreading misinformation. You're spreading the truth. And that secondly, the idea that

00:20:13.720 you knowingly like that, that's two large hurdles. So they have to jump. Like it's such a

00:20:18.840 belief in logic to believe that. Yeah. There's a third hurdle as well that,

00:20:23.240 that says that I had to do those two things with the intention of influencing the election,

00:20:29.160 which when like, when you just look at the facts of what we did, we public, we, we, you know, I,

00:20:34.120 I, when speaking with lots of people about the story was advised and begged to hold the story until

00:20:42.040 after the nomination deadline, so that the conservatives could use this as ammunition

00:20:48.360 against the liberal party writ large. And the liberal party wouldn't be able to change the

00:20:52.120 candidate. And then the conservatives would win. And we did not do that. We said, no, this is a story

00:20:58.520 of urgent, uh, public interest. We're going to publish it now. Does it's the, whether he's fired,

00:21:04.040 whether he wins or loses, that's not our interest. Our interest is getting the information out there,

00:21:09.800 information that we believe and still believe to this day is true. And if we lose,

00:21:14.280 it changes and destroys my life forever because we were trying to share the news

00:21:21.560 in a democratic country during an election. I mean, this is totally unbelievable. And the

00:21:27.000 fact that Mark Carney is presiding over this government that is openly investigating journalists

00:21:32.520 for the crime of reporting the news, informing Canadians of the truth and not receiving government

00:21:37.240 subsidies, not being part of the state run media like the CBC. It is a scary situation,

00:21:42.680 Kian. So, uh, what are the next steps and, uh, how can folks like listening? How can they, 1.00

00:21:47.560 how can they help out? Yeah, well, it, so it's going to cost us tens of thousands of dollars to

00:21:53.480 litigate this and defend me personally. But as I said before, this is not a fundraiser. I I'm not trying to

00:21:59.880 fundraise and, and profit off of this. I just want to have these charges, you know, have this

00:22:06.680 investigation dropped. Uh, I don't want to go to jail. And I think that the best way of doing that

00:22:12.680 is by raising an army of people who are standing beside us telling the government that they will not

00:22:18.680 stand for this. They do not want to live in a country where, um, where our basic freedoms are

00:22:26.600 steamrolled by the government and, and people who are acting in good faith to share the news during

00:22:34.040 an election are, are put in, in jeopardy. Their lives are, their lives are put in jeopardy because

00:22:39.720 of the job that they do. We don't want to live in that country. So I want people to, to, uh, read the

00:22:44.200 story, share the story, uh, write to their elected officials, let them know how outrageous this is.

00:22:50.440 And, uh, you know, they're, they're coming after us because we are the largest independent newsroom

00:22:54.680 in the country. We don't sell out our news for some grant money that Mark Carney is offering.

00:23:00.040 Um, you know, we, we, we just need, we need people to join the fight with us and stand beside us and

00:23:06.440 let the government know that this is just deeply outrageous, morally wrong. Uh, and we're not going

00:23:11.880 to just let them get away with this. They can go to defend juno.com to check out the full story.

00:23:17.240 And if they want to become a member to Juno news, which is the number one way to stand beside us and

00:23:22.440 help us actually fight this so that we can have the strength in numbers that we can push back

00:23:28.040 and show to the government that no, we're, we're, we are an army of Canadians standing up saying, no,

00:23:33.960 this is enough. We're not going to tolerate this. They can do that at defend juno.com.

00:23:39.240 100%. Like this is not tolerable in a free and democratic society. We need independent journalism.

00:23:44.680 We need a free press to hold the government to account. That is what we do day in and day out at

00:23:50.040 Juno news, the government and Mark Carney is clearly trying to intimidate us. They're truly

00:23:53.800 trying to scare us and you specifically key. And they're putting fear into you. So you can't go

00:23:57.800 out and do future investigations. You're too afraid. And that is the purpose of the law is to scare

00:24:02.760 people into complying and being quiet. And Juno news refuses to do that. Right. Uh, we will fight back.

00:24:10.360 We will fight back. You know, we've hired a lawyer. We will push this. We will challenge it. We will do

00:24:15.000 everything we can to keep you as a journalist and keep you out of jail. It's so ridiculous that we 0.94

00:24:20.440 even have to say that. Um, but we do need an army of Canadians to push back. So folks go over to 0.93

00:24:26.360 duno news.com, become a premium subscriber, help us join our army, join our movement. We want to

00:24:31.400 replace the CBC and we want to stand up to the bullies and the thugs in the liberal government that

00:24:37.720 think that they can just wield their power over journalists, tell us to shut up, push us to the

00:24:41.800 side and continue with their crusade. They cannot do that. We will stand up. We will push back. Uh,

00:24:47.240 key. And I, I'm sorry that you're going through all this, but, uh, we're right here standing side

00:24:50.840 by side and we won't let anything happen to you or our organization. So, uh, keep on the good fight.

00:24:56.520 Great. Thanks for having me on. All right, folks. All the time we have for today. That's

00:24:59.960 came back to see my co-founder here at journal news. I'm Kenneth Malcolm. This is Kenneth Malcolm

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Juno News - September 03, 2025

Carney Government launches CRIMINAL investigation into JUNO NEWS

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