Juno News - June 04, 2025


Carney LOSES vote in the House, refuses to open the books + it’s “pride season” now


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Candice Malan is joined by Sean Newman to talk about Pride Month and the lack of a federal budget from Prime Minister Mark Carney. Plus, a look at why the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is calling on the government to rein in its massive spending spree.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
00:00:07.080 today. We have Sean Newman joining us in just a few minutes, and we're going to talk about
00:00:11.920 the worst excesses of Pride Month. It's June, it's Pride Month, and I'm actually told by my
00:00:16.300 producer it's not just Pride Month anymore. We now have to call it Pride Season. It's like going to
00:00:21.080 last the entire summer. So we're going to get to that, but I want to start with some more serious
00:00:25.340 business here, which is the fact that our Prime Minister, Mark Carney, doesn't want to pass a
00:00:31.420 budget while the opposition parties, led by Conservative interim leader Andrew Scheer, are
00:00:35.980 doing their best to try to compel him to issue a budget so that Canadians can have an idea of what
00:00:42.320 our new Prime Minister and what this new government plans to spend our money on. And so on Monday
00:00:47.720 evening, the House of Commons passed a Conservative amendment to the throne speech demanding an
00:00:53.640 economic update or budget before the House adjourns for the summer. That includes full
00:00:58.680 accountability of Canada's finances. The motion passed, folks, 166 to 164, with support from all
00:01:06.020 opposition parties. I can't tell you how rare this is, that the Conservative Party would put forth a
00:01:11.300 motion that would be agreed upon by all of the other parties aside from the governing Liberals. It
00:01:16.820 means that the NDP and the Bloc had to agree with this. It doesn't happen very often in Canadian
00:01:22.500 politics. But when it comes to just the basic business of government, I mean, hello, this is
00:01:27.540 like government 101. Like, what are you spending your money on? We're told that Mark Carney is this,
00:01:31.940 like, expert banker and finance guy. Why can't he just tell us what he's spending his money on? It's
00:01:37.460 actually absolutely bizarre. So good for the Conservatives for getting this motion passed.
00:01:42.020 Good for all of the other MPs for having the common sense to say, yeah, we need to see the budget.
00:01:48.020 Let's play a clip of Mark Carney during question period, saying that he would take note of the
00:01:52.900 Conservative motion, as if it was just a suggestion, not binding. But still, let's
00:01:57.460 play that clip. We take note, take note of last night's motion. But what Canadians deserve, 0.99
00:02:04.660 what Canadians deserve, what Canadian provinces deserve is a health care transfer, is a transfer
00:02:10.100 for child care, is a transfer for dental care, is a transfer to support affordability. That's what's
00:02:15.940 in the main estimates. And we expect the support of members opposite. That's just sort of neither here
00:02:21.140 nor there. It's like, yeah, you can you could expect those things that the government said they're
00:02:24.580 going to pay for. But we just want to know what else you're spending money on and where it's going.
00:02:28.260 That's like the entire point of a budget there, Mr Carney. Next, we have this clip of him of Prime
00:02:33.860 Minister Mark Carney implying that Canadians should just trust him, saying we know how to grow the
00:02:38.260 economy without spending money. So let's play that clip. Unlike the member opposite, I know the
00:02:42.580 difference between a main estimate and a budget. And unlike the members opposite, we know how to grow this
00:02:50.340 economy without spending money. And that's why we're proposing a bill to build one Canadian economy
00:02:59.620 out of 13. So always quite a show in the House of Commons once they have a question period back
00:03:06.340 up and running. But, you know, this idea that they know how to grow the economy without spending money,
00:03:10.660 well, then why do they keep spending so much money? I wanted to get a comment on this from our friends
00:03:15.940 at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. So I'm going to throw to this clip of Franco Tarrazzano
00:03:21.460 commenting on this entire episode. Over to you, Franco. The banker was supposed to be better with
00:03:26.820 the numbers than the drama teacher, but you can't have any credibility on the finances if you can't
00:03:32.420 even bother to put together a budget. First, the Carney government told Canadians that we weren't
00:03:38.580 getting a federal budget at all this year. Now, that is just completely unacceptable. It's our money.
00:03:44.740 We deserve full transparency from the government. The government owes Canadians a budget. Now,
00:03:52.340 the Carney government, after backlash from Canadians, says we'll get a budget, well, sometime this fall.
00:03:59.620 Well, why is the government waiting so long? How bad are the books? Not to mention that our members
00:04:06.900 of parliament who we elect will have to vote on massive government spending. MPs also need to know
00:04:15.220 the state of the finances before they vote on the massive government spending. Now, we do not have a
00:04:22.260 budget yet, but the government has released its main spending plan, formerly known as the main estimates.
00:04:29.780 Now, Carney, during the election that he just ran in, said that he would rein in the massive government
00:04:36.580 spending. But it looks like Carney is going to continue Trudeau's debt-fueled spending spree.
00:04:42.980 So those main estimates have more than $480 billion of spending in it. That's an 8% increase over the last
00:04:54.100 year. In fact, the government has nearly doubled spending since 2016, according to those main estimates.
00:05:02.740 So what does that all mean for you? Well, more debt means higher taxes today, or higher taxes plus
00:05:11.220 interest tomorrow, or more inflation as the central bank prints up new money out of thin air to finance
00:05:18.260 Ottawa's huge deficits. It also means that your kids and your grandkids are going to be making payments
00:05:24.900 on that debt for the rest of their lives. Now, remember, folks, the Trudeau government doubled the debt
00:05:32.740 in less than a decade. And Carney plans to continue Trudeau's debt-fueled spending spree.
00:05:38.980 So here is a breakdown of Carney's budget deficits that he ran on in his own election platform.
00:05:47.140 2025, a $62 billion deficit. 2026, a $60 billion deficit. 2027, a $55 billion deficit. And 2028,
00:05:59.140 a $48 billion deficit. Gross. So over the next four years, Carney plans on adding $225 billion to the debt.
00:06:12.340 So for comparison, the Trudeau government planned on increasing the debt by about $131 billion over
00:06:19.700 those same years. So Carney plans on adding almost $100 billion more to the debt than even Trudeau
00:06:28.340 planned. More debt also means more taxpayer dollars wasted on interest payments. So interest charges on
00:06:37.060 the debt are already costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week. The parliamentary budget
00:06:44.900 officer estimates that interest charges on the debt will cost taxpayers about $70 billion by 2029.
00:06:54.340 So enough is enough. Open up the books, put down the credit card, and pick up some scissors.
00:07:02.100 Well, that is some common sense if I've ever heard it from Franco. I wish that just an ounce of that
00:07:07.780 common sense would rub off on some of those members of parliament in the Liberal Party and the Liberal
00:07:12.820 government. All right, I want to introduce our guest for the rest of the show. I'm talking about
00:07:16.420 Sean Newman. Sean's the host of the Sean Newman Podcast, where he discusses issues relating to
00:07:20.340 faith, family, and the broader Canadian political landscape. Sean, great to have you back on the show.
00:07:25.620 Yeah, thanks for having me, Candace. It's funny, in your clips there, it goes from Carney saying,
00:07:31.540 we're not going to spend money and we're going to grow the economy. And then you flip to Franco,
00:07:34.580 and Franco is showing that he's going to not only spend as much as Trudeau, but he's going to
00:07:39.780 add $100 billion onto that. So something doesn't add up there, but that seems to be Canada these days.
00:07:45.380 Yeah, it's almost like one of them is not telling the truth and not let the audience make that
00:07:50.180 decision for themselves, who they think is being straight with us. You know, it's interesting,
00:07:54.980 because you just think someone with Mark Carney's pedigree and his background, I mean, I think a
00:08:00.340 major part of the reason he was elected is because people think he's a competent, trustworthy
00:08:04.500 person who understands budgets and financing. And yet the basic element of that, release a budget,
00:08:10.900 he's not doing. It's interesting because during the campaign, they did release a costed budget
00:08:17.060 for their platform that showed how much each promise would happen. That in and of itself is
00:08:21.860 a fairly big endeavor. And so you would think that if they could do that, they could do a budget. And
00:08:26.820 also remember at the time, the conservative opposition accused them of just taking Justin Trudeau's
00:08:32.180 budget, crossing out Trudeau government and writing in Carney government. And the media insisted that
00:08:37.780 wasn't the case. Rosemary Barton and the CBC said that there was no evidence of that, and that had
00:08:42.180 been debunked. And yet here we are, like, if they can come up with a costed platform, why can't they
00:08:47.620 come up with a budget? I think they're trying to pull some tricks. During the election campaign,
00:08:53.060 Carney mentioned that he wanted to change the way the budgets were written. So there's operating versus
00:08:58.100 capital. And so that requires going in and just changing a bunch of stuff. And so I imagine that
00:09:02.580 he just needs more time to do that so that when they finally release a budget, it'll look better
00:09:07.060 than if they were just being straight and giving us the real numbers. What do you make of this entire
00:09:12.100 episode here? Whenever I get across from someone such as yourself, you've been staring at this problem
00:09:21.380 in the political circles longer than I have. But it's not shocking to me to see a politician
00:09:29.860 say one thing and do something different. It's just become the same old thing. It's not surprising
00:09:35.140 anymore. Carney has said lots of things. He's doing what he wants. And what's interesting to me about the
00:09:46.340 clips when you're showing him talking in session is... I remember when Justin Trudeau, maybe five
00:09:54.740 years ago, was it six years ago? There was a time when if you looked at all the faces of the Liberals
00:10:00.020 behind him, all the MPs, they were all nodding, raiding. And then towards the end, everybody had
00:10:04.740 their head down. They were just like, this is embarrassing. And they all got their swagger back.
00:10:09.940 They're all very much in line with what Carney said. You can almost see them just like,
00:10:14.980 yeah, we got our leader back. So the Liberals, they have a plan. It doesn't mean I enjoy their
00:10:21.860 plan. It doesn't mean that I think it's going to be the best thing for Canadians.
00:10:25.300 I wish more Canadians would have paid attention beforehand because, yeah, Carney came in with
00:10:30.420 these slogans and elbows up and we're going to do all these great things. But his track record
00:10:36.100 hasn't been that. Just go dig into it a little bit and you're like, this isn't what we need. This is
00:10:42.660 actually drastic what we do not need. And we're seeing that right away. When it comes to the money,
00:10:47.700 the budget, we're going to be spending lots and we'll wait and see. But my hopes aren't
00:10:55.380 set on Carney or any other politician for that matter. I think I've been maybe, I'm a little
00:11:02.180 bit cynical when it comes to the world of politics, but a politician saying one thing and doing another
00:11:06.500 thing. I think that's the oldest playbook they have. Well, in some ways, I think that I want
00:11:12.260 Mark Carney to do something different than what he said, because if you go back and look at his book
00:11:16.820 Values and the ideology that he has been promoting basically his entire adult life, pushing for net zero,
00:11:25.380 pushing for many of the schemes that the World Economic Forum comes up with. He infamously said,
00:11:32.260 you know, I'm an elitist and I'm a globalist, but that's exactly what Canada needs right now.
00:11:35.940 Correct.
00:11:36.340 Right. It's like, and then try to circle that square with the Mark Carney that we saw this week
00:11:41.540 at the first minister's meeting saying, we want Canada to be a energy superpower and we're going to
00:11:46.660 do what we can to push through these national nation building projects.
00:11:50.660 So which one is it, Candace? Which one is he?
00:11:53.860 I hope, I would hope that it's the Carney this week, right? And not the Carney of six months ago,
00:11:59.300 but you know, the classic political bait and switch. It's like, we're just waiting for it. We're
00:12:04.420 just waiting for it, for the mask to come off and, you know, Justin Trudeau to be back, but just
00:12:09.380 wearing a, you know. Well, he definitely isn't Justin Trudeau, right? Like he's definitely a different
00:12:14.900 version for a liberal leader. He's definitely, I don't know if you could, like who, I don't know how
00:12:20.420 you could get another Justin Trudeau in office at this point. Like he just, you know, like 10 years
00:12:25.140 of that, just like, how's this guy our leader? When I watch Mark Carney, I see a lot of things
00:12:28.820 where I'm like, I understand the appeal to him at times, right? And, and the guy who was sitting in
00:12:33.940 Saskatchewan, you hear the things coming out of him, you're like, that's interesting. That actually is
00:12:37.700 interesting. Now, can they get it done? That's an entirely different question. And will they get it
00:12:42.820 done? And, you know, and what's he going to go back to the East and say, and how's that going to go?
00:12:47.220 Right. Like there's just so many questions, you know, it's interesting to me to watch it play out,
00:12:51.860 but until there's shovels in the ground and things start actually getting built and things start
00:12:55.700 moving the right direction, you know, like I don't have a ton of faith in it. And, and we've seen,
00:13:00.420 you know, that you bring up his values book. I have a hard time going, he wrote that you can still hear
00:13:06.100 him talk about net zero and different things. And I'm like, yeah, even when he's talking about
00:13:10.420 pipelines, he's talking about getting a net zero and you go like, I don't know. I have a hard time
00:13:15.380 believing he's become a completely different man and he's going to set Canada up as the energy
00:13:21.220 superpower of the world. I have a hard time believing that.
00:13:24.500 Well, and even if, if, if you could picture him doing it, right, it's like,
00:13:28.260 he's still in the same party as Stéphane Galbault. He's put him in his cabinet, right? Like he's still
00:13:34.020 got Gerald Butz in the midst. He just appointed a new chief of staff that was a former United Nations
00:13:39.620 person. That's also, you know, close with Gerald Butz. Like, you know, it's, it's hard to imagine
00:13:46.020 that he's going to just like turn his back on his entire party. Um, let alone, you know,
00:13:50.260 his constituency, it was really Quebec that pushed him over the goal line here. And we've heard from
00:13:56.660 many leaders in Quebec that, you know, for them, a pipeline is just a non-starter. It's not going to
00:14:01.220 happen. So it's interesting to see how he balances it all. In some ways, I think he's digging himself
00:14:07.460 into a hole and, you know, it might be a rude awakening, uh, for someone who's so inexperienced
00:14:12.580 in political and sort of partisan politics. Uh, what, what can happen when you try to be all things
00:14:18.180 to all people? Yeah. Well, he's paying lip service to both sides. And at some point,
00:14:23.060 you know, rubber has to meet the road and we're going to find out which way it goes. I think I have
00:14:27.380 my idea of where it's going, but you know, uh, only time will tell. Okay. I want to move on to,
00:14:32.820 I think a funner topic and that is, um, that it's June, which means it's pride month. Um, and pride
00:14:39.540 is, is a, is a cardinal sin, but, um, you know, in our culture, that is the time where all of the
00:14:44.580 bank logos changed to rainbows and all the Canadian flags go down and the rainbow flags go up. I, I,
00:14:50.740 I really actually thought that we were moving away from this, Sean, as a culture and as a society that
00:14:54.900 it kind of peaked around like 20 or 21 or 22. And then it was slowly going back to normal. And then
00:15:01.140 June hits us and it's like all right into our face. So here we have Anita Anand on X. She's 0.70
00:15:06.660 a cabinet minister in the Kearney government. She writes that today marks the beginning of pride
00:15:11.380 season across the country. Everyone deserves to love who they love and be their true selves free
00:15:16.420 from discrimination. Happy pride. Um, so, you know, it was, I think it originally went from like a day
00:15:22.740 and then it became a month, a month, a season, it'll be a year soon enough. Right. Like,
00:15:28.580 you know, like Friday is D day. We, we have one day to celebrate the incredibly sacrifices that were
00:15:34.820 made during the second world war that really built Canada into the country that it is. We have one day
00:15:38.740 for that. And yet it falls in the middle of this entire month dedicated to, uh, you know, sure. It's
00:15:46.180 great that people can have general freedoms in our, in our society. Freedom is really important. But, but,
00:15:52.260 but I think it's turned a corner into like, it's, we're not just celebrating acceptance. We're celebrating and
00:15:57.060 promoting like a hedonistic lifestyle that's obsessed with sex. It's like, it's like, we're just
00:16:01.300 celebrating the fact that these people go out and get to have sex with whoever they want. We're supposed
00:16:05.860 to, what, like congratulate them for that. Um, what do you, what, what do you make of all that?
00:16:10.980 Well, I would say, I think you're, um, when you said, I think we've moved on from it. I think most people
00:16:17.060 have, I think most people are just like, whatever, like you want to raise a flag giver. Like we, we don't really
00:16:24.100 care. The, the problem is, is when they start jamming it down your throats, right? Like, you
00:16:30.100 know, um, when we talk about pride season and I, I just chuckle at that. Cause I'm like, I know a 0.68
00:16:35.220 handful of stores where the flag never goes down, where the crosswalk is always painted. It's just,
00:16:42.980 it's just there. And it's funny to, you know, like, uh, what it was at Air Canada had their first
00:16:48.260 all pride. Oh yeah. We're going to get to this. Just, we're going to get to this. Well, okay.
00:16:52.340 Well, well in the video, it's funny and I'll, I'll bring it back up again because the, the pilot's
00:16:56.820 like, well, let me get, uh, I better make sure I get this right. Cause there's a couple extra
00:17:00.580 letters in there. I'm like, no kidding. Every like 10 days, there's a new letter. Every 10 days,
00:17:05.140 there's a new color on the flag. It's like, I don't, I really don't care. The problem is as a father,
00:17:11.860 you know, the, the reason it really hit a feverish point a few years ago is it was starting to,
00:17:16.660 and it still is. Don't get me wrong. Alberta just had their, you know, and they're talking
00:17:19.700 about these books and getting them out of the schools and then they're being criticized for
00:17:23.780 banning books. And it's like, have you opened some of these books? Like what parent wants any
00:17:29.060 of that material in there? Nobody. So like when it hits, when it hits a certain age group where it's,
00:17:34.900 it's in a parent's peripheral, right? We're supposed to be there to be like, this doesn't make sense.
00:17:40.820 Um, that's when it really irritates. I think a lot of people, I mean, you know, it's just,
00:17:45.700 you know, I'm a diehard Edmonton Oilers fan tonight. The Oilers play game one of, of
00:17:50.900 Stanley cup finals and you know, what do they do? Happy pride month. And you're just like, 0.87
00:17:56.980 but can't we just play hockey? Do we have to like, you know, I just, I just want, but that's become
00:18:02.260 everything. Everybody's like that. It's just, they haven't learned their lessons yet. There's the,
00:18:06.420 you know, you go back to the Dylan Mulvaney can and Bud Light, they learned their lesson.
00:18:11.140 They moved on the United States. Now I think they, you know, they put out more and more stuff
00:18:16.260 just trying to get away from all this ideology. They're not trying to demonize the actual person.
00:18:21.620 You want to be an adult and go do your thing. Most of us are like, well, I don't want, okay, fine,
00:18:28.100 but just stop jamming it down our throats. It's, it's, it's time to move on. Like this is, this is just
00:18:34.100 played its course, I guess.
00:18:35.300 Well, a hundred percent. And like, to me, when I see it at schools, like I'll be completely
00:18:38.820 transparent. My husband and I were looking around schools for kids. Right. And there was a school
00:18:44.180 in our area that we were interested in. It's private school. And so we went out there to like
00:18:48.820 tour it. And, and literally they had a pride flag up. Right. And they had no Canadian flag up. And so
00:18:54.180 to me, it's like the idea of a flag is something that unites everybody. Right. And so a Canadian flag is
00:18:58.500 supposed to represent every single person in the country. Right. But when I see a gay flag, 1.00
00:19:05.140 I don't feel represented in that. In fact, I feel like it's someone else pushing their
00:19:09.300 ideology onto children. Right. Like the idea of being gay, it's like, it's a, it's a sexual thing. 0.98
00:19:15.140 Right. And so why, what does it have to do with children and kids? Like it's, to me, it's just so
00:19:19.940 blatantly wrong. And like, I, I honestly, I, after, after I saw the flag, I'm like, I can't in good
00:19:24.420 conscience that my children to that school, because I don't agree with the core values
00:19:28.340 of the school. And I fear that that has just spread throughout our entire society. Now,
00:19:32.180 Sean, I just have to preface this because we have been getting demonetized on YouTube lately,
00:19:38.260 because some of our episodes are just a little bit too spicy. And so I do have a couple of more
00:19:44.020 examples that I want to share. Are you saying I'm too spicy for your YouTube,
00:19:47.620 Janice? Is that what I'm getting? Well, maybe you, I mean, me too, because a couple of the episodes
00:19:52.020 that got defunded, it was just me alone, my choice of topics. But yeah, so we're going to continue
00:19:57.380 this conversation over at Juno News. I urge everybody to head on over to JunoNews.com,
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