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- July 31, 2025
Carney offers statehood to Hamas? + illegal border crossers CAUGHT on tape
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I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
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folks. We have Alexa Lavoie from The Rebel joining us in a few minutes. Before we get to her exclusive
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reports on immigration and illegal border crossings, I want to cover something that came
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across my desk yesterday and I thought it was just too important not to cover on the show.
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And that is that Prime Minister Mark Carney plans to recognize statehood for Palestine,
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for the Palestinian state. So in a statement released yesterday, Mark Carney said Canada
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attends to recognize the state of Palestine at the next United Nations General Assembly in September.
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We have a clip of him saying that this is what he plans to do. Let's play that clip.
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For the reasons I cited earlier, Canada intends to recognize the state of Palestine
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at the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly in September 2025.
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This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority's commitment to much needed reform,
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including commitments by the Palestinian Authority's President Abbas to fundamentally
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reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part and to
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demilitarize the Palestinian state. So I'm going to read a little bit from Juneau News Report. You
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could hear Prime Minister Mark Carney saying that there are a whole bunch of conditions
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attached to recognizing statehood. Let me just say, folks, that Hamas is not going to abide by
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these things, right? So Canada says, yeah, we'll recognize statehood, but we have a list of things
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that you have to do in order for us to do that. And yet they're still going to announce it in September.
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So we have, what, a month for the Palestinians and Hamas to make all of the changes that the
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international community and that Israel has been trying to get them to make for years upon years,
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they're not going to do it. It's not going to happen. And so what is going to happen is that
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Canada is going to recognize a state run by terrorists. It is absolutely mind boggling and
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just so reckless, so irresponsible. I'm going to read a little bit from Juneau News's report
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from Lalit Tam Tam, great report over at JuneauNews.com. He writes, Canada will officially recognize the state
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of Palestine at the UN General Assembly in September, announced Mark Carney on Wednesday,
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a decision made nearly two years after the October 7th, 2023 Hamas terrorist attack marks a major
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shift in Canada's Middle Eastern policy, aligning with recent moves by France and the UK, ever the
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follower of that, Mark Carney, the globalist weffer, saying that he is going to do the thing that
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Britain just said that they were going to do. So Britain says they're going to do it. France is
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going to do that. And then Mark Carney just jumps right on with his European buddies to make the
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same announcement. I'm going to continue reading from this report. He says, speaking to reporters
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on Tuesday, Carney said the deteriorating humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the collapse
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of a credible peace process compelled Canada to act. The level of human suffering in Gaza is
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intolerable, Carney said. And let me just point out, folks, that the level of humanitarian suffering
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is because of Hamas. It is because of Hamas and their terrorist attack and their inability to hand
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over the hostages and their insistence on using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Carney condemned
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the Israeli government for allowing the situation in Gaza to reach what he calls intolerable state.
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Canada intends to recognize the state of Palestine at the 80th session. The intention is predicated on
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the Palestinian authorities' commitment to much needed reforms. Those reforms, he said, include
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Mahmoud Abbas's pledge to hold a general election in 2026, to exclude Hamas from any governing rule,
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and to end the payment system for prisoners, and to commit to a demilitarized Palestinian state.
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Folks, let me just remind you that Mahmoud Abbas was first elected in 2006.
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Okay? So he is on year 19 of a four-year term. And he has pledged many times that he would hold
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democratic elections, and he never has. And the flip side of that is that if he were to announce
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democratic elections, he would lose. And the reality in Gaza is that Mahmoud Abbas is a moderate
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compared to the other side, right? And so if there were democratic elections in Palestine,
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a Hamas or a Hamas-like group would likely get elected, making it even more despotic and
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completely out of control. The idea that Hamas would have no governing role. Hamas is obviously
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clearly very embedded in a society. So this idea that we're just going to proactively give them
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what they've always wanted, which is statehood, recognizing their statehood, without having any
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guarantees that they're going to go by any of these things that Canada's demanding, is just naive
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and irresponsible. The Conservatives under Pierre Polyev have released a statement saying that
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they are condemning Carney's recognition of the Palestinian statehood. Let me just read a little
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bit from that. It says, recognizing a Palestinian state after the October 7th terrorist atrocities
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sends the wrong message to the world that violence and terror are effective tools for achieving political
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objectives, a statement read. If the government recognizes a Palestinian state now, it is impossible
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that Hamas will not play a central role. Surely Canadians cannot support validating Hamas with the
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status of government. That is exactly right. That is exactly right, folks. The Conservatives
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have it right. It is so foolish for the Carney Liberals to believe that anything will change.
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And let me just say, you might be wondering, who's calling for this? Why is this a major
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important thing in Canada in the middle of summer, just days before we're supposed to sign our own
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trade agreements or we're in the middle of negotiating? Our deadline for doing trade deal with the
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United States comes tomorrow, right? So why would Canada do this? Well, this just brings me back to
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something that Thomas Mulcair said last year, October 8th, 2024. Thomas Mulcair, who is a former
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NDP leader, wrote in a column for CTV that he was talking to Melanie Jolie, who was a foreign minister
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at the time. They were talking about Canada's response to South Africa's claim that Israel was
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committing genocide and they were taking them to the ICC. And this is what Thomas Mulcair wrote.
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When I spoke with Jolie about the liberal reaction to the South African position,
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she said something that floored me. Thomas, have you seen the demographics in my writing?
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I know all politics is local, but I was astonished to hear such a candid admission
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that very local politics were playing such a role in shaping Canada's foreign policy on this highly
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complex and sensitive issue. It all comes back to the Liberals' immigration plan, to pandering to the
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most extreme communities, to telling everybody who comes to Canada, you can bring your tribal feuds,
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you can bring your ancient ways of life to Canada. We'll welcome all that. And not only we'll welcome
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it, we'll start pandering to it. So because you have a lot of radical Muslims in your writing,
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you're going to go ahead and side with them and recognize a terror state. Just a few weeks ago,
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Mark Carney said at an Eid celebration in Ottawa on June 6th, that Muslim values are the same
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as Canadian values. Let's play that clip. We can gather in different places of worship,
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but all of us come together, all of us must come together around the values of Eid. These are Muslim
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values. These are Canadian values. Pandering. More pandering to extreme, more extreme sex in Canadian
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society. Well, guess what? President Trump noticed, President Trump saw that Canada is now trying to make
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a deal with Hamas and with the Palestinian states. And this is what Trump wrote on Truth Social. He
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said, wow, Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make
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it very hard for us to make a trade deal with them. Oh, Canada, he writes. Oh, Canada is right. And
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folks, just moments ago, as we were recording, President Trump also announced that he will give
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a 90-day pause on the tariffs to Mexico. No word on what is going to happen with those tariffs coming
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on Canada. It's supposed to be in effect tomorrow. Now, I want to welcome Alexa Lavoie to the show.
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Alexa is a Quebec-based journalist with Rebel News, known for investigative on-the-ground reporting that
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challenges mainstream narratives on Canadian protests and government policies. Alexa, welcome
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to the show. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for the invitation.
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Well, I'm wondering your thoughts. I mean, you cover a lot of these pro-Palestine rallies,
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and you cover a lot of the things happening in probably Melendie Lee's writing in Quebec.
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So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this announcement from Mark Carney.
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Well, first of all, those protests will not stop. It's clear. The people who are protesting
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in the street, they are in favor of Hamas. They are calling them the resistance. So for them,
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I don't think what Mark Carney is offering is enough. I think them, they want Hamas to stay
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in power, probably because mainly they call them the resistance. So they agree with what they are
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doing. And also, the thing is, Mark Carney and his demand is to demilitarize Hamas and Gaza,
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but also giving the power to the Palestinian Authority and the Fatah. And I don't know if you remember,
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but the Fatah was killed massively after the election in 2006. And it's why now we are seeing
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Hamas in power in the Gaza Strip. So I don't know what they are looking for. I don't know if they
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actually see all the elements in what they are asking for, because we are talking about a two
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group of really violent, that they would need to deal with it, each other, and they never actually
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agree with anything in the past. So to see them agreeing in less than a month, as you mentioned,
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I think they are living in a unicorn environment.
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Well, it's true, because it's like, the demands that they made are pretty much the same demands
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that Israel has. I mean, obviously, add in, hey, return our hostages that you took from us almost
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two years ago, who knows what kinds of conditions they're living in. And basically, if the Palestinians
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were willing to do all of that stuff, I think that Israel would also be willing to sign a peace
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agreement, or at least allow them to have some kind of independence. But they're not willing to do
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that. And so we have this war. And so it just seems totally misguided. I think it's all about local
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pandering. And it reminds me of a report that you had in Montreal earlier this week, you were on the
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ground reporting on the Sean Foyt worship service in Montreal, that was protested and a smoke bomb was
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thrown into the service in the middle of it. And during your, I think it was your footage or someone
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from rebels, you can see the protesters, I think we can put up on the screen, that you can see that
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there's a Palestinian, someone waving a Palestinian flag, right? And so it's like, we have a church
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service in Montreal, people trying to worship their Christian God, you can see out there, the Antifa was
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there. And but then there was also a Palestinian flag. It's like, why? Like, why did, who would show up
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to protest a Christian singer and bring a Palestinian flag, unless it was some kind of sign
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of intimidation? I mean, it brought me back to that clip we just showed of Mark Carney saying
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Canadian values are Muslim values. Like, I don't really understand what he means by that. He
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didn't ever really clarify it or explain. But like, when I see a Palestinian flag, I see it as a sign of
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intimidation. And like, trying to send some kind of message. What did you interpret when you saw that
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flag? Well, first of all, the people who showed up that day, they are professional protesters.
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I was able to recognize a lot of them from a previous protest. They are always there when
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there is a protest for the climate, a protest for the decolonial. They are there for all kinds of
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protests. And so this is the typical far left Montrealers who are just trying to find any event to show up,
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and just protest. And they mix all together all the cause, because literally, they don't really know
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what they are protesting. They are showing up in front of a church where people are going to worship.
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Imagine if that happened in front of a mosque. This situation will be doing headlines across Canada
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and across the world for like, probably Islamophobia. But because it's a church, and the people who are
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attending are Christian, I didn't see any big headline. The only headline was, oh, a MAGA Christian artist
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was going to deliver a worship service in a church. But the term MAGA was the term in all CBC article and
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all mainstream article. And that created that protest that day. That created also the attack that we saw
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with the smoke bombs inside of the church. Right? Did you see any mainstream media relating
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that the smoke bomb was thrown inside of a church? I didn't see any.
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No, of course, that's not part of their narrative, right? Their narrative is evil Trump Republican
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in Canada, even though what Sean Foyt was doing had nothing to do with politics, right? He's a worship
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leader and a rock singer, a Christian rock singer. So he's just there to pray and to lead a prayer,
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and to sing. But the CBC inserted this narrative and decided that somehow he was politically
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dangerous. And yeah, I guess it just like the people who were there, maybe they just read the
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CBC. The CBC has radicalized their own readers. You did some great reporting there because you have
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obtained footage of the man who threw those smoke bombs. You can see the man there in the white shirt
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with the suspenders. He's just a bit of a hipster there. And you can see him walking in. And then in
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the crowd there, there's the worship service. There's Sean Foyt on stage. And you can see him in the
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very, very back there, just lobbying the smoke bombs casually and then turning around and leaving.
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So Alexa, can you walk us through what happened and what you're trying to do now?
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So now we are trying to search for the identity of this man. So it's why we launched findthetug.ca.
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I have another angle that I was tip about it. So the man getting out of the church really, you know,
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quietly, peacefully, and just left in front of the police officers and he afterwards is done. But I
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have another angle that we are going to post today with a better quality video. So if anybody
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know this man or have any information, please reach out to us.
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Well, I read this in the show on Tuesday after this happened, but in Canada,
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interrupting or disturbing a religious service, religious worship is addressed under the criminal
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code. It is counter to sections 176, one, two, and three, and section 430 that you cannot actually
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interrupt a church service in the middle of it. So that should be the big news story across the
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country that a thug, some kind of either Antifa or Palestinian or anti-Christian or just a radicalized
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CBC viewer decided to throw smoke bombs into a church, into a worship service in Canada. Like if,
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again, if it were any other religion, if it were in any other part of the world, it would be a huge
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concern in Canada. They don't even cover it. It's not like they even shrug their shoulders about it.
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They just completely pretend that it didn't happen. So great reporting and we look forward to
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seeing what you do next. I want to talk about another one of your reports that this is just
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tremendous. Again, the kind of work that the CBC will never do. So you did an investigative report
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that exposed illegal border crossings. So a new Rebel News report led by Alexa Lavois and Lincoln Jane
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exposed a surge in organized criminal smuggling operations across the Canada-US border near
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Champlain, New York and Franklin, Quebec. They used hidden cameras and local tips. The team documented
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34 illegal crossings in just four nights, many involving Haitians. I believe you found Haitian IDs
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and other identifying things that you could see in with the night cam. So you set up hunting or camping
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videos to be able to catch these individuals crossing at night. Really just tremendous reporting
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in journalism that the independent media is doing in Canada folks and the legacy media just completely
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ignoring. I'll admit, you know, when the Trudeau government finally closed Roxham Road, I had visited
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Roxham Road as a reporter back in, I think, 2018, 2019. And again, I just kind of assumed that when they
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finally closed it up, the problem was gone. But it clearly isn't. I mean, just a few nights, you caught 34
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individuals crossing. So tell us the sort of origin of this report. What led you to go down to the
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border? And then what were your key findings? But I've been investigating on the borders since many
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years. And I knew that by closing Roxham Road and by doing a reform on the third safe country agreement,
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that will lead to way worse. I explained. So when they did the reform on the third safe country agreement,
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they also included a two weeks period for the people who, if they are crossing illegally,
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they will be turned back if they are not eligible. But after 14 days, they will be able to apply
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and their refugee claim will be received. So the people now that are paying human trafficker,
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they are paying and in the price. Often, it includes to be hidden for 14 days somewhere. So after that,
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they can get out and apply for their refugee status. The price, it's it's variating between 2000 to 5000
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US, depending probably on the demand. But I've been investigating on this. And I found a lot of TikTok
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video and other social media video showing people crossing illegally as a video for advertising safe
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crossing. On some of these videos, we saw house and farm. And we found the house and the farm in those
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videos. And we went to speak with the resident that actually told us that yes, the illegal crossing have
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increased in their field. They are finding all kinds of items. And that is back in 2024, when we went over
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there. But recently, one of the residents called us and say, now it's just getting out of hand. People are
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just crossing multiple times a week, big group. Also, they were saying like, we don't feel really safe
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anymore. Nobody is reporting on the situation. And it's why I'm calling you because we want to shed
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light on the current situation. And especially because most of the people are not crossing both sides,
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they are mainly going to Canada. And they wanted to warn us about the situation.
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Well, it's interesting that you say that you've been following up for years. And then there was a
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TikTok video. So there's a TikTok user that as you say in your report, by the name of Jeet Ukerhand,
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who's posted dozens of posts advertising human smuggling, like openly saying, hey, guys,
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we'll take you from Montreal to New York or vice versa. And that he's still posting these as recently as
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four days ago. So it's not like they're trying to hide it. It's happening out in the open. And as you
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showed, I mean, it seems like it's happening every night. The report shows that the police on both sides
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seem to be onto it. You showed helicopters, you showed RCMP vehicles circling around, that they're
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aware of it just seems like they're not able or perhaps not willing to stop the flow. What was your
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sense being down at the border? Well, first of all, there is a lack of manpower on the ground.
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That's for sure. They are using technology. Yes. But the thing is, you need to stop them
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when they are doing their criminal act. And also because the sanctions are not enough. Most of the
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time, the people who are crossing illegally, they will say, I'm claiming refugee status. I'm a refugee.
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And then the charge will be dropped. And they will be driven to the closer legal port of entry. And
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then if they are allowed, they will be receiving the immigration treatment center. And if not,
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they will just be turned back into the US. A hundred percent. I mean, anybody who's leaving
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the United States right now and coming into Canada illegally, I mean, we have a safe third country
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agreement. So the whole idea behind that is that if you're a true refugee and you're fleeing persecution
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in your country of origin, you will declare refugee status and ask for asylum in the first country that
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you landed. And so if someone is coming from the United States, just by very virtue of them coming
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from the United States, it means that they're not a refugee. It means that they cannot do what they're
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trying to do. They're obviously illegally in the United States and they're trying to illegally come into
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Canada to evade that. And on top of that, I mean, Juneau News broke this report earlier this month
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that the feds have spent over $2.6 billion on asylum seeker housing in Canada just since 2017. So more
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than $2.6 billion, including $1.1 billion on hotels and accommodations, $1.5 billion in transfers to
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provinces and cities to manage shelter costs amid record high arrivals. So at a time when Canadians
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can't afford to buy their first home, when housing prices are out of control, when our homeless
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population is growing, the feds are happily paying billions of dollars to accommodate people who come
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to our country illegally. And then of course, there was this other story that broke in the Globe and
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Mail earlier this week, that the border authorities are unable to locate nearly 600 criminals that are due
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for deportation. So the Canadian system is a mess. It is embarrassingly disorganized and bad.
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Alexa, I don't know how you just lose 600 people, 600 bad guys in the country set for deportation.
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Canada doesn't do a lot of deportation. So the fact that they're finally going to deport these
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people, these are all convicted criminals. And now all of a sudden CBSA records show that 599
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foreign nationals failed to attend their deportation proceedings. It's all based on the honors. This is
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a problem, right? It's like, hey, you're here illegally and you've been convicted of crimes. We're going to
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deport you. So show up to the airport at this time so we can deport you. And then the people don't show
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up. And then we just don't know where they go. We don't know where they are. And interestingly,
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in your report, you spoke to people who say, you know, it used to be that the migrants were coming
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from Canada into the United States. And now it's kind of shifted backwards where it's more bad guys
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coming from the U.S. into Canada. So what do you make of all this?
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I think we need to act as fast as we can. I think we need to reinforce our border. I think we need to
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invest more in our RCMP officer and then why not sending military to our border for a certain period
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of time. Right now, just at the legal port of entry, we we are for the month of July, we are probably
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close to 3000 people showing up to ask for refugee. Then we have all the people crossing illegally.
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And that doesn't include the people arriving by the airport. We need to see that Canada cannot take more
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people into our country. We have a housing crisis. Our health care system is not functioning. Our economy is
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not doing well. And also all those people who are crossing illegally, part of them will also continue to do
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that human trafficking. Because a lot of them will not have the money to pay their crossing. So they
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will be involved themselves into doing the same thing. And I saw some video on TikTok last year,
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they were searching for driver. Do you know how much they pay for three hours or two, four hours
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to drive people illegally? No, tell us. It's $15,000. This is the price that they pay for the people.
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This is a lot of money. So of course, there is a lot of bad actors. They don't, they don't mind to be
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illegal. They are doing a really lucrative business. And if they get caught, they are still illegal. So
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afterwards, they can just say, Oh, no, no, no, I'm a refugee. And then all charge will be dropped.
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And finally, they will have gained a lot of money. And then they will have their process for refugee
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status being looked at by our government. So a lot of bad actors are playing our system. And we are
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letting them winning on top of that.
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It's, it's really unbelievable, just how much they'll prey on vulnerable people. And, you know,
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for liberals and for bleeding heart types that say like, Oh, we have to accept these people. It's
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like, you know, even, even if you're sympathetic to the families and you did show a family with small
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children, uh, crossing that, that, that, that tug at my heart as well, but the rest of them, it was
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all kind of young military aged men. And it's usually a large influx of young men coming in so much so
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that Canada's demographics are now split so that there are much more young men than there are young
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women in the country. Um, but the idea is that there is a whole network behind them of traffickers
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and, and, and those people are actually getting rich off of this process. It's wild.
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Because you mentioned the children, but, um, talking with the resident, they say that some women were
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showing up with babies who didn't know what to do with the baby. So at the end of the day, there is use
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of children to cross illegally in with the goal to be taken into a, like pity of them because, Oh, a mother
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with a baby, but the resident were telling me that they are not sure that the baby was her. So it was just
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maybe a random kids, um, a random child that they grabbed and they tried to pass as a, it's my child, but I'm
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trying to come to ask refugee status, but it's not really hurt. I mean, that, that is so sick and
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twisted that they would steal a child. I mean, that to me, that's just, that's like one of the worst
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things that you could do. And the fact that they are doing, I mean, add kidnapping on top of that
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and international smuggling, those people should go to jail and not in Canada, they should be deported
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and gone to jail. And hopefully the children get reunited with their actual parents because it's just so
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sick and twisted what some of these people will do to take advantage of our generosity. Alexa LeVar,
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amazing reporting. Uh, everyone go check out the rebel news. We're going to add a link,
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um, in the description here so you can check out her full documentary, incredible journalism,
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uh, from the rebel and from independent media. Alexa, uh, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate
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your time. Thank you. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much
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for joining us. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.
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