Juno News - June 18, 2026


Carney PRAISES Trump’s peace deal with Iran


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00:00:00.000 After initially suggesting the Iran war might be illegal, Prime Minister Carney now says
00:00:10.700 it was all worth it. In an interview at the G7 summit in France, Carney told CNN he's
00:00:16.720 always considered Iran's nuclear ambitions a major problem, and if the outcome of the war
00:00:23.320 puts an end to that, it will have been worth it. In terms of when you look back at this,
00:00:28.740 Do you believe this war was worth it in Canada's view?
00:00:32.080 I think that the number one risk, I answered this question three years ago or so at Davos,
00:00:37.960 and I was asked, what's the number one risk in the global economy?
00:00:40.860 And I said Iran.
00:00:41.840 And it was at a time when people were not focused on Iran,
00:00:44.340 because I've always believed that it's the biggest exporter of terror.
00:00:48.400 It was hell-bent, sorry if I can say that, on getting a nuclear weapon.
00:00:52.820 And the force multiplier on that, of course, was terrible.
00:00:56.160 And so going and getting to a position where Iran is not going to have a nuclear weapon,
00:01:01.660 look, I'm not naive about this.
00:01:04.140 The reintegration of Iran, this is a regime that needs to learn to be civilized, needs to behave.
00:01:10.840 That's why you have performance measures.
00:01:12.500 Lots needs to happen.
00:01:13.480 We all have to support it.
00:01:14.620 But moving to this position where that's been taken off the table, yes, that's worth it.
00:01:19.340 Now Carney got an early look at the ceasefire MOU and describes it as a game changer.
00:01:25.600 Did you actually see the agreement itself?
00:01:28.060 I've seen the agreement, yes.
00:01:29.180 Oh, so the president showed it to you?
00:01:30.600 Well, I've seen the agreement.
00:01:31.620 We have our sources, just like you.
00:01:33.800 Okay.
00:01:34.520 Well, we haven't seen it publicly.
00:01:35.960 It hasn't been released.
00:01:36.760 Is it true it's about a page and a half?
00:01:38.560 It is a reasonable length for an agreement, which is, in effect, it is a cessation of
00:01:45.300 hostilities.
00:01:46.040 It's a ceasefire for that 60-day period, as you know.
00:01:49.220 But it sets out a series of conditions and what will happen when they are fulfilled.
00:01:54.160 So I think it's I think it's well structured from our perspective, but I think as well is the regional countries are behind it.
00:02:02.160 Of course, we met with with the UAE, the Qataris, the Egyptians.
00:02:06.720 We have contacts as well. And again, it's well structured.
00:02:10.940 It creates I actually think, you know, I think it's a game changer, not just for this situation,
00:02:16.600 because it starts to take off certainly this issue, but it allows us.
00:02:22.420 and this is what's happened in the meeting, to step back, look anew at Ukraine, Ukraine situation.
00:02:29.120 We had a very, very constructive conversation around Ukraine.
00:02:32.740 On the issue of trade and Chinese EVs, Carney says he spoke with Trump in a hot mic moment,
00:02:39.360 but apparently got the president's approval.
00:02:41.760 That I had seven or eight discussions with President Trump over the course of the last 36 hours.
00:02:47.320 I'll have more today, a wide range of subjects from the economy, relations, his birthday, artificial intelligence, Ukraine, obviously Iran,
00:03:00.860 the aspects of the deal and the next steps there and how Canada can help, and good discussions with the president.
00:03:08.380 So I wouldn't take a big message from it.
00:03:10.100 Now, President Trump, meantime, says the other G7 leaders appear to have come around to his way of thinking.
00:03:16.540 Our guest today is communications expert and political strategist,
00:03:37.580 George Ann Burke, coming to us from Florida. Welcome, George Ann.
00:03:41.240 Thank you, Mark. Nice to see you.
00:03:43.160 Nice to see you as well. Let's have a look at this clip of Trump.
00:03:46.080 He walks into the venue at the G7 and listen to what he has to say when he gets in.
00:03:59.200 Hello, I'm the boss.
00:04:02.980 How are you?
00:04:05.200 Okay, there was, I thought, maybe a little bit of nervous laughter there.
00:04:10.340 But it turned out to be very factual.
00:04:13.260 He certainly looked like the boss.
00:04:15.960 He walked in like he owned the place.
00:04:18.920 He so did.
00:04:21.300 What, first off, I guess, is your take on the G7, what happened, and your impressions?
00:04:29.040 So, it's funny.
00:04:32.660 He knows how to make an entrance.
00:04:34.100 Like, this is a guy who, he's been doing this for 50-plus years, okay?
00:04:40.860 He knows how to make an entrance.
00:04:42.560 He knows how to exude strength.
00:04:44.020 he scares the hell out of them they they're terrified of him because he may say something
00:04:49.940 about them like he said about obama vis-a-vis the iranians i won't repeat it here on the air
00:04:54.880 because it was a little spicy but they know that they that this is a guy that's unpredictable
00:05:00.100 and they he comes to you says i'm the boss they better they better laugh at least laugh somehow
00:05:05.800 whether nervously or not um the g7 itself i mean like i i'm not a great fan of these meetings but
00:05:13.980 I guess they have to do it. And the one thing good that did come out of this, if anything good
00:05:20.420 came out of this, is that finally these weak, useless countries have decided that maybe he
00:05:27.400 wasn't completely crazy to have gone after Iran after 47 years of nothing from all these other
00:05:34.100 countries around the world, including the United States of America, that maybe he wasn't so wrong
00:05:41.240 And maybe there is a chance that these terror-supporting monsters from Iran have been eliminated, and maybe there's a chance that they can get some better behavior out of this country.
00:05:57.760 I think that the thing that's important to me is he has said over and over again, and he actually said something just before we connected here on the air that stuck with me.
00:06:07.980 He said over and over again, if they don't follow through, there's going to be a penalty to pay.
00:06:13.800 And the penalty, he's been quite blunt, is going to be, we're going to come back and we're going to bomb them again.
00:06:17.640 He actually said that exactly just about 10 minutes ago.
00:06:25.220 He said, and the other thing he said, though, that followed was, I can't tell you what will happen when I'm not president anymore.
00:06:32.500 If you get some weak, useless person in office, I don't know if they're going to follow through.
00:06:37.420 I can only do what I can do. I've got almost three years left and I'm going to do everything
00:06:43.000 I can to make this a success. Okay. That's, I don't know if we can ask him for any more than
00:06:47.680 that. Um, he's certainly going to try his best. There are things about this that I have questions
00:06:53.440 about. Um, I'm not ready to throw it down the, the, the circular, whatever, flush it down way.
00:07:01.020 I'm not ready to do that. Um, I want to, I want to get more details. I mean, I heard a press
00:07:06.080 conference i haven't seen the document yet the actual document yet that he's referring to um
00:07:12.480 and uh i said yesterday in something that i wrote that i am not willing to condemn him to you know
00:07:19.440 being a traitor to the american cause and even worse coming out of my own community a traitor
00:07:25.280 to israel i don't believe that is you know what he's done there are things that he's done and
00:07:31.280 said that i don't like and i've been open about those things but um i think that he's on the right
00:07:37.760 track i don't know it's 47 years nobody's done anything about these people for this long did
00:07:42.400 they think you could undo all of this mess like overnight in fact he's gotten about as close to
00:07:47.520 undoing the mess overnight as you could have gotten and that's because he wasn't afraid to
00:07:51.280 take action and to do what needed to be done so now we have to see what the follow-through is um
00:07:56.400 and people are accusing Steve Woodcoff, he's in bed with the Qataris, and Jared Kushner is only
00:08:03.960 trying to make money for himself, and Donald Trump, the usual. I say, can we not listen to
00:08:11.460 all that gossip and chatter and just actually observe what actually happens? I've learned a
00:08:16.760 long time ago with him, it doesn't really matter what he says, it matters what he does. He'll save
00:08:21.320 things to get you to look over there when he's doing something over here. So I tend to watch
00:08:26.860 what he's doing rather than what he's saying. Yeah, I think some people said he was in bed with
00:08:31.320 Israel for a while there. Oh yeah, and now he's not. From Bibi Netanyahu. Yeah. And so now I guess
00:08:40.140 he's not because some people think, especially supporters of Israel, that he kind of threw them
00:08:46.580 under the bus a little bit with certain aspects of the steel. I know you're still looking at it.
00:08:53.040 Actually, that's the main thing that stuck out to me. And I actually commented on it already.
00:08:58.840 I want him to stop accusing Israel of doing horrible things to the Lebanese people
00:09:07.060 and fighting a war with Lebanon. That's not who they're fighting with. They're fighting with
00:09:12.400 Hezbollah. And I'm sorry. I actually want, like I was dying to actually be able to say to him,
00:09:19.200 well, what did you do about Tehran? What did you do about the towns that you bombed in Iran?
00:09:23.900 Do you think that no innocent people were killed there? And why did you do it? You did it because
00:09:28.420 there's a big enemy that has to be dealt with. Well, Hezbollah has gotten away with killing
00:09:34.980 Israelis with impunity for 25 or 30 years, at least, out of Lebanon, okay? The Lebanese people
00:09:44.200 did not enjoy this situation with Hezbollah, but they also didn't do anything about it,
00:09:49.620 okay? They allowed it to continue. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Israel says no more. We're
00:09:54.540 not putting up with it anymore. We're not going to allow Hezbollah. We've defeated Hamas. We've
00:09:59.980 knocked them off pretty much, okay? You know, they'll keep popping their heads up every now
00:10:04.860 that, but they're pretty much decimated. Don't hear much about the Houthis these days, okay?
00:10:10.400 But Hezbollah doesn't seem ready to give up yet. And so Israel is going to do what it has to do
00:10:17.220 to defend its own people. And he said today, well, you know, if Israel doesn't do it the way that we
00:10:21.680 want, then maybe Syria will do it. Okay, Syria, you get in and defeat Hezbollah. I don't care who
00:10:25.500 does it. They want to be the champs. They want to be the heroes. Go right ahead. Fine. As long as
00:10:29.820 Hezbollah, stops killing Israelis with impunity. So the tone of that is I know a lot of people
00:10:37.720 who are Trump supporters in the Jewish community are very hurt by this. They feel bad. They feel
00:10:43.640 it was unnecessary. They feel it was being thrown under the bus. And I don't disagree. I didn't like
00:10:48.200 it. And I said I didn't like it. I thought it was gratuitous. It wasn't necessary. But I also know
00:10:56.520 that sometimes he says things for a reason and maybe it's going to make the other side feel like
00:11:02.420 they have more of an ally in him than they actually do. I don't know. I don't know what
00:11:06.040 the reason is. I suspect he was worried that Israel would do something ahead of the signing
00:11:12.120 of this MOU slash agreement that would torpedo the whole thing. And I think he wanted a deal
00:11:19.380 before the G7 so he could make a triumphant entrance and, you know, they could move forward
00:11:26.900 with other things that he wants to do, like end the war in Ukraine, for instance, deal with Cuba
00:11:32.520 and, of course, move towards hopefully a victory for the GOP in the midterm. So all of these things
00:11:41.000 are out there and he didn't want Israel, specifically Netanyahu, doing something
00:11:47.980 that would torpedo that peace agreement.
00:11:52.000 At least that's the way I see it.
00:11:53.780 I don't disagree with you.
00:11:55.560 That doesn't give him the right to talk the way he talked.
00:12:01.140 If he wanted to say to Bibi Netanyahu,
00:12:03.460 listen, can you hold off bombing for a few days
00:12:05.280 till we get this done?
00:12:06.480 And then I don't care what you do after that.
00:12:07.820 Maybe he did say that, I don't know.
00:12:10.220 But the public comments created a firestorm.
00:12:15.140 Yesterday, I had a big argument
00:12:16.400 with a very close friend of mine who I had to say at the end of the discussion was, you know,
00:12:20.340 I love you. And this is not about me not liking you, but I disagree with the way you are reacting
00:12:26.080 to this, especially since we don't really know what went on behind the scenes. We don't even
00:12:30.480 know what the document looks like. We don't know anything. Which prompted me to write what I wrote,
00:12:36.100 Iran Stop the Gossip. You know, can we at least wait to see what the guy has to say,
00:12:42.020 what he's actually put in writing with these people and this is by the way only step one this
00:12:46.900 is not the agreement this is the mou this is a memorandum of understanding which sets the table
00:12:53.460 for an actual agreement um and what he says is if they violate any of the terms of this mou
00:12:59.220 they're back in war again with the united states okay i don't know what else he could do um i guess
00:13:04.100 we're gonna have to wait and see how it all comes out um but at least out of this g7 thing he got
00:13:10.980 these useless countries to finally say okay we'll help you somehow or another i mean i don't know
00:13:17.460 what they're actually going to do maybe you know they'll have some ships in the water maybe they'll
00:13:22.980 help with you know rebuilding maybe they'll help with inspections i don't know i don't know that i
00:13:27.860 trust any of them to help with inspections i think i want someone more reliable than them to make
00:13:32.340 sure that the agreement is being uh adhered to uh so but but it's better than the alternative
00:13:39.940 situation before which was you know accusing the u.s of war crimes basically of committing
00:13:46.740 violations of international law thank you mark carney you great legal scholar right well speaking
00:13:53.220 of mark carney and glad you brought it up but he uh at one point during the conflict described it
00:14:00.580 as a possible violation of international law i mean he was iffy about it being he kind of liked
00:14:07.380 it and then came out with that and then expressed regret over it. He was never really clearly in
00:14:14.300 favor of it. But now he says it was all worth it if, in fact, it succeeds in preventing Iran from
00:14:20.500 getting a nuclear weapon. And he also says that the MOU, which apparently he read, is a game
00:14:25.820 changer. So all of this, as he is in France, apparently he said he spoke with Trump, although
00:14:34.480 oh, there was not a one-on-one that I know of.
00:14:37.140 There wasn't, there was no bilateral.
00:14:38.980 No, no bilateral.
00:14:40.240 So, but he says he spoke to Trump six or seven times
00:14:42.580 about all sorts of things, including Chinese EVs.
00:14:48.620 How should Canadians see his performance there
00:14:51.160 in so far as it applies to dealing with Trump
00:14:53.860 and moving forward with our trade issues with that country?
00:14:58.240 So I said to you off the air, and I'll say it here now,
00:15:02.040 it kind of reminded me of somebody else.
00:15:03.880 at a previous G20 or G7 meeting, that being Trudeau, trying to get Trump's attention.
00:15:10.040 Every time Carney passed by Trump, he leaned down to say something to him.
00:15:14.560 He was not standing next to him on the group pictures. He was up in the back row, as usual.
00:15:22.820 Trump did not have a bilateral with him. And that was purposeful, because they're in negotiations
00:15:27.400 now for Kuzma, and Trump is not happy with them. So I think that's part of this, too.
00:15:33.140 And that may explain, by the way, Carney's behavior lately, including saying things at, what was it, at the New York Economic Club, making Canada strong and prosperous will help make America great again, whatever.
00:15:46.680 And, you know, now saying, oh, maybe this wasn't such a bad thing to do this war.
00:15:52.000 So he seems to try to be sucking up to Trump for whatever reason.
00:15:56.880 And I think that reason is that they know they're in trouble with Kuzma.
00:15:59.580 They know there will not be a three-way agreement unless some miracle occurs, because the U.S.
00:16:05.820 has been negotiating with Mexico for a year on a bilateral.
00:16:10.380 So if we're lucky, we'll have a bilateral agreement.
00:16:14.040 But they've got a lot of tap dancing to do before Trump is happy enough with them to
00:16:17.180 sign a deal.
00:16:18.860 So I think that explains at least some of Carney's behavior.
00:16:23.280 He loves hobnobbing with the Europeans because he feels more at home with them than he does
00:16:27.540 with north americans canadians or americans um so i'm sure he enjoyed himself uh i'm waiting to
00:16:35.540 see the catering bill from i know that's mean but whatever um but that's the truth i'm sorry you
00:16:45.220 know you spend taxpayer money you better be able to account for every single nickel of it
00:16:49.380 um and when you spend enough money to feed a family of four for 55 years yeah okay maybe you
00:16:54.340 You ought to be rethinking yourself there a bit, especially in these times.
00:16:59.020 We're not in a time when people are not suffering economically.
00:17:02.680 So I think that for Carney, you know, he probably felt that it was an accomplishment for him to be there, to be accepted by these European people,
00:17:14.180 to have his three or four little quick conversations with Trump, who always is, I would say he's generally polite, like he'll generally, if you talk to him, I'll answer you back.
00:17:23.560 But he did not have a bilateral with Canada, which they might have done in the past, especially if things were good between them, but they're not particularly at this time.
00:17:34.600 So I hope that Carney takes note of that fact.
00:17:39.800 It's certainly been reported in the media enough, right?
00:17:44.040 So that he thinks, you know, what am I going to do to create a better relationship here?
00:17:49.520 Kowtowing to Trump never works.
00:17:51.360 Kissing the ring never works.
00:17:52.700 you have to show yourself to be strong, but reliable. You have to show yourself to be a
00:18:00.220 friend and an ally, not somebody who is creating more problems than solutions. And I will tell you
00:18:07.720 that I know factually from talking to people in the administration down in Washington,
00:18:12.700 up in Washington, that they see Canada as a huge security risk. That was never the case before.
00:18:20.920 I mean, in the last 10 years, it's been the case, and it's worse now that they see it as infiltrated by the Chinese communists.
00:18:28.080 They see it as infiltrated by the cartels.
00:18:30.500 They see it as infiltrated by gangs and drug gangs and terror gangs.
00:18:37.780 They see our border as being porous and allowing people in with absolutely no vetting.
00:18:42.480 And this, to them, is like a massive danger north of the 49th parallel that never was there before.
00:18:49.380 This has been the longest border in the world that is open, an open border, like with no
00:18:56.980 real, no walls between Canada and the U.S., but they're making a case by their behavior
00:19:02.640 for the U.S. to take a different view of Canada, and that's a shame.
00:19:09.800 Honestly, it's going to hurt the Canadians in the long run and the short run, and Americans
00:19:14.280 don't want this.
00:19:16.340 I tried to explain to someone the other day.
00:19:17.660 the American people actually like Canadians. They do. Trump actually likes Canadians. Nobody hates
00:19:24.700 Canadians. I can't say the same as the other direction. There are a lot of people that really
00:19:29.180 hate Americans in Canada, which is kind of sad. We have a lot in common. We have a lot of
00:19:33.740 differences. There are two different countries, but we've always been able to at least be respectful
00:19:38.520 of each other. I'm concerned because that respect has dissipated out of simply people just hating
00:19:48.420 Trump. It's an irrational thing that's going on very concerning. But it also is going to have an
00:19:55.560 impact on the Canadian economy and on its relationship with its closest partner. I don't
00:20:01.200 know if they've noticed, but Europe and China are thousands of miles away from them. That trade is
00:20:07.840 not easy when you're thousands of miles away from your nearest trading partner. If you cut off the
00:20:14.480 United States, which is your closest trading partner, literally, physically and otherwise,
00:20:20.060 it makes no sense. So hopefully, wiser heads will prevail and we'll see some attitude change. I
00:20:27.600 hope so for the sake of my friends still living in Canada. George Ann, thank you so much for coming
00:20:33.900 on the show. We always appreciate it. Thanks, Mark. George Ann Burke. If you enjoyed this show,
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