Juno News - Carney's cabinet picks spark division as Guilbeault, Smith clash over pipelines

00:00:00.000 Yeah, Noah, did you watch the Leafs game last night?

00:00:02.300 I looked at my phone and it was like 6-0.

00:00:04.660 And I was like, hey, that's not going too good.

00:00:07.120 All the Leafs fans in my life, although I didn't watch it,

00:00:09.940 but all the Leafs fans in my life were just devastated.

00:00:12.360 And I looked up the score and saw it was 6-1.

00:00:14.520 I'm like, oh, this is what it felt like when LeBron was beating the Raptors

00:00:19.220 all those years.

00:00:21.900 Yeah, I haven't followed the Leafs too closely.

00:00:24.280 I think they've had a few goalies that have been injured, though.

00:00:26.660 So I don't know exactly what's going on.

00:00:28.260 But the Oilers clinched their series last night.

00:00:29.940 So I had a good night.

00:00:32.960 Oh, yeah, Alberta people, you guys are always getting in the better side

00:00:36.540 of the stick.

00:00:38.120 Although, I guess we Toronto people, we've got our Raptors championship.

00:00:42.880 We're all good there.

00:00:44.220 But 60-plus years of pain, that's a long time.

00:00:48.640 Yeah, I was there in Toronto for a couple of the games

00:00:51.240 during the championship.

00:00:52.240 But, I mean, the city was on fire.

00:00:54.840 It was absolutely crazy.

00:00:55.900 I was there too.

00:00:57.100 Yeah?

00:00:57.320 Yeah.

00:00:57.420 It's such a funny coincidence.

00:01:00.760 Yeah, I know.

00:01:01.440 I haven't even watched basketball.

00:01:03.440 So I'm just at the bar, and all of a sudden,

00:01:05.220 everybody just runs out into the streets,

00:01:07.260 and everybody's going crazy. 0.99

00:01:08.860 I'm like, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:01:10.180 I thought it was a mass shooting or something. 0.98

00:01:11.840 All right, before we get too deep in the weeds here,

00:01:17.720 let's just hop into the show.

00:01:20.220 Okay, sounds good.

00:01:21.260 Hello, everyone.

00:01:28.100 My name's Isaac Lamoureux.

00:01:29.140 I'm here with my colleagues Noah Jarvis and Alex Zoltan

00:01:32.040 for Off the Record today.

00:01:33.660 And we're going to be starting off with arguably the biggest story

00:01:37.340 of the week, which is, of course, Mark Carney's new,

00:01:40.600 new in quotations, cabinet.

00:01:42.460 It's somewhat new, I suppose,

00:01:46.660 because 14 of the 28 ministers that Carney appointed

00:01:50.100 were from Trudeau's old cabinet.

00:01:52.600 So those hoping for the change that Carney promised

00:01:55.720 might be left scratching their heads.

00:01:58.300 And another interesting thing that Carney did was

00:02:02.040 the cabinet has complete gender parity.

00:02:06.660 So there are 14 men and 14 women.

00:02:09.300 So interested to know if any of these cabinet members

00:02:12.280 might recognize that they're DEI hires,

00:02:15.840 because there may have been a better candidate,

00:02:17.740 if not for the forced gender parity.

00:02:21.040 Yeah, did anything stand out to you guys

00:02:23.860 from the cabinet appointments?

00:02:26.800 Yeah, it was pretty disappointing for people

00:02:29.560 who expected a clean break from the Trudeau years.

00:02:32.860 I was expecting that Mark Carney would be able to use

00:02:36.020 some of the new MPs that got elected,

00:02:38.260 either in ridings that the Liberals hadn't won previously

00:02:41.460 or from ridings in which they just have a new MP in general.

00:02:46.040 I thought that he would use that opportunity

00:02:47.660 to staff the cabinet with new people.

00:02:50.700 And he did saw that somewhat.

00:02:53.020 I mean, he appointed the former head of Hydro Ontario

00:02:57.360 to the energy portfolio.

00:03:00.680 But, you know, he also kept in people like Stephen Guibault,

00:03:02.980 who was also in the energy portfolio.

00:03:04.600 And he has done a disastrous job there.

00:03:08.460 He's the author of many of the radical measures

00:03:12.020 that the Liberal government has brought in,

00:03:13.840 including bills C-48 and C-69.

00:03:17.180 And he also kept around people like Melanie Jolie,

00:03:20.220 who during her time as Foreign Affairs Minister,

00:03:23.280 did a terrible job at clarifying Canada's position

00:03:26.580 on the Israel-Hamas conflict.

00:03:28.300 She really did a poor job communicating the government's position 0.99

00:03:33.360 on, say, Ukraine or in keeping good diplomatic relations with India.

00:03:38.760 So Melanie Jolie has shown herself to be a disaster, 0.97

00:03:42.820 just an absolute train wreck.

00:03:44.300 Yet it seems as if she is going to be the industry minister.

00:03:48.960 And we also have people like Sean Frazier,

00:03:51.220 who Pierre Poliev very nicely said that he has been failing upwards,

00:03:57.320 which I tend to concur with that statement.

00:03:59.960 In his time as Housing Minister,

00:04:02.260 the cost of housing in Canada had ballooned.

00:04:05.480 And, you know, there was no real recourse for the Canadian people.

00:04:09.260 And during his time as immigration,

00:04:11.220 he brought in significantly more people,

00:04:14.720 just drove up the rates of permanent immigration

00:04:18.140 and temporary migrants to the point

00:04:20.820 where it made the housing crisis even worse

00:04:23.140 than during his time as Housing Minister.

00:04:26.160 So definitely not the clean break that people were hoping for

00:04:30.140 with this new Kearney government.

00:04:32.660 And many of the incompetence,

00:04:35.680 much of the competence that we've seen

00:04:37.500 under the Trudeau government might just be happening once again

00:04:41.760 in a nice veneer of, you know,

00:04:45.380 technocratic guile.

00:04:50.540 Yeah, one that stood out to me, of course,

00:04:52.520 was Chrystia Freeland, who resigned in shame.

00:04:54.960 She resigned in shame right before tabling the budget. 1.00

00:04:59.100 And then she's just got this new file,

00:05:02.380 Minister of Transport now.

00:05:03.460 So, I mean, it's crazy.

00:05:04.880 And there are other ministers, too,

00:05:06.300 who resigned for family reasons or this and that,

00:05:08.840 and now they have a new file.

00:05:10.560 Alex, were there any appointments that stood out to you as problematic?

00:05:14.900 Yeah, some of these are more than problematic.

00:05:17.780 They feel like a straight-up troll.

00:05:20.000 Like, Chrystia Freeland is the transport minister.

00:05:22.560 She doesn't own a car.

00:05:23.560 I don't think you need to own a car to be the transport minister.

00:05:28.480 But as you mentioned, she resigned in shame as the finance minister. 0.97

00:05:31.920 So she, again, is appearing to fail upwards or at least laterally.

00:05:37.760 And then you've got justice minister, our new justice minister, Sean Fraser,

00:05:42.120 who had just quit politics like a month ago or a few months ago to spend time with family.

00:05:49.540 I guess he just didn't enjoy being with his family very much because he went right back into politics when Carney became the new prime minister.

00:05:55.880 Another one that seems like another troll is Mark Gerritsen as the party whip.

00:06:05.100 That's just hilarious to me.

00:06:07.540 And that's going to be a very funny thing to watch if we ever resume parliament again.

00:06:13.020 Yeah, I mean, if you recall, Mark Gerritsen recently accused the Juno News reporter of, well, being a Russian-influenced, you know, bot, I guess.

00:06:25.740 I don't know exactly where he thought he was going with that.

00:06:29.520 It certainly is not based in truth.

00:06:31.860 And he had to apologize for the statement because it was just blatantly untrue.

00:06:35.620 So someone who has such a tenuous relationship with the truth probably shouldn't be the party whip, you know,

00:06:41.700 probably shouldn't be in a position of such influence and power.

00:06:46.120 Yeah.

00:06:46.840 As an Albertan, I was, of course, somewhat focused on Guybeau, Stephen Guybeau,

00:06:52.140 because his lengthy history with, of course, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith,

00:06:58.000 they're always getting into fights during his time as environment minister.

00:07:01.600 And now he's the minister of Canadian Identity, Culture and Official Languages, not the environment minister.

00:07:07.960 But despite this, he's seems to be weighing in immediately on the energy file for some reason.

00:07:14.080 So he was saying, I mean, he made several ridiculous claims that Smith called him out for right away.

00:07:20.100 First of all, he said that oil demand would peak in 2028-29 worldwide and in Canada.

00:07:27.180 I don't know where he's getting that information from.

00:07:29.820 He also said there are no investors for oil and gas or support for an east-west pipeline.

00:07:35.620 Again, not sure about that one.

00:07:37.780 Then this is where it gets crazy, what Guybeau said.

00:07:39.960 He said he had the audacity to say pipelines are built by companies, not the government,

00:07:44.920 after what happened with the Trans Mountain Expansion Pipeline.

00:07:47.480 Remember, guys, private investors were ready to build this for like $5 billion.

00:07:51.960 But because of Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines Act, other regulatory hurdles, it was completely bundled or bungled.

00:08:00.940 And ultimately, the government had to buy the project and taxpayers paid $31 billion for this.

00:08:07.600 So and then again, they have the audacity to say, oh, but we invested in a pipeline.

00:08:11.560 They always say that.

00:08:12.200 Oh, but we invested in a pipeline.

00:08:13.900 It's like, oh, actually, you made taxpayers pay like 6x what a private company would have done it for if you just got out of the way.

00:08:22.240 But so Smith called out Guybeau.

00:08:24.540 But another thing I found quite interesting was she called on the new environment minister.

00:08:30.080 I think her name is Julie DeBruson to disavow what Guybeau said.

00:08:34.520 The funny part is this comes just a day after Smith was smack talking DeBruson because she issued a statement on that as well, saying not happy with the new environment minister.

00:08:46.140 She called her.

00:08:47.880 I have a quote here from Smith.

00:08:49.140 She said, quote, not only is she a self-proclaimed architect of the designation of plastics as toxic,

00:08:56.060 but she is a staunch advocate against oil sands expansion, a proponent of phasing out oil and gas.

00:09:02.080 And for the last four years, she has served as the right hand to former environment minister and militant environmentalist Stephen Guybeau.

00:09:10.400 And then Andrew Scheer, the conservative house leader, he got in on the fun, too. 0.87

00:09:15.720 He basically just called out Guybeau for his ridiculous statements. 0.97

00:09:18.200 He straight up said, look, Guybeau, you're lying. 0.96

00:09:20.360 He made some claims about the Trans Mountain Pipeline's capacity.

00:09:23.980 And Scheer said that's an outright lie.

00:09:27.480 And then he said, more or less, the Liberals have attacked Canada's oil and gas industry over the last decade.

00:09:33.660 We know Carney presented himself during the election as a pro-energy.

00:09:38.240 So now that the same ministers are in the cabinet already waging war against energy,

00:09:45.080 it really, I think, will leave Canadians scratching their head thinking, I thought we were going the other direction on this.

00:09:52.520 Did you guys, I know I said a lot there, did you guys have anything to say about the whole Guybeau fiasco?

00:10:00.480 Yeah, well, I think that Guybeau really is someone who doesn't change.

00:10:05.140 You know, if there's anything about Guybeau that you can say about him, he's principled,

00:10:08.420 probably unlike Mark Carney, whose values on carbon taxes changes depending on whether or not he's in the private sector or running for prime minister.

00:10:15.300 But, you know, with Guybeau, at least you can say he's consistent, if anything, you know.

00:10:20.180 But consistently bringing Guybeau back into cabinet after the Alberta premier has said that this is one of her big concerns,

00:10:28.700 that she's concerned that Minister Guybeau is a radical and that he has views, you know, that are threatening to the interests of Alberta.

00:10:37.960 I think that Mark Carney not necessarily is, you know, unintelligent for making such a pick,

00:10:45.420 although I think it's an unintelligent pick.

00:10:46.900 But I think that his advisors probably told him that, you know, we need someone who, you know, has experience

00:10:52.980 and, you know, who has been in this role before, has been there, done that.

00:10:56.680 But if your experience has been disaster, calamity and chaos, you know, I don't think that's quite valuable.

00:11:02.000 You know, you can't really run and advocate off of that.

00:11:06.200 But, you know, additionally, like, yeah, sure, we have repeats of the repeat ministers from the Trudeau years.

00:11:13.400 We have Guybeau, Anita Anand, Sean Frazier, there's a few others.

00:11:18.080 But you also have new ministers that are also probably equally as bad.

00:11:22.840 For example, the former mayor of Vancouver from 2008 to 2018, Gregor Robertson, he was appointed as the Minister of Housing.

00:11:34.340 Nathaniel Erksheim-Smith, an Ontario-based MP for Beaches East York, he got shuffled out of that position

00:11:41.000 after years of trying to, you know, talk up his credentials and really be an advocate on the housing file.

00:11:48.380 You know, he was placed in there as a placeholder and then right out the door.

00:11:52.500 And this guy, Gregor Robertson, it's not like he has a terrific record on housing.

00:11:56.960 In fact, the opposite.

00:11:58.640 Gregor Robertson, from 2008 to 2018, as Vancouver mayor, oversaw a 115% increase in home prices in 10 years.

00:12:09.360 115% increase.

00:12:10.780 That's, I think, like about 11% annually.

00:12:13.920 And the annual inflation rate, you know, the Bank of Canada, they usually target 2%, 11% increase in housing annually. 0.54

00:12:23.700 It's absolutely ridiculous.

00:12:25.460 There's no planet on Earth in which wages keep up with that sort of inflation.

00:12:31.780 And he wants to talk up his accomplishments as the mayor of Vancouver and all the initiatives,

00:12:37.860 the terrific initiatives they did to tackle the housing crisis during his time as the mayor. 0.62

00:12:44.000 Absolutely ridiculous.

00:12:44.860 Not only did housing prices soar up, but homelessness went up after initially pledging in 2008 that he would end homelessness in Vancouver.

00:12:54.580 Vancouver is the capital of homelessness in this country.

00:12:57.280 I mean, like you can't get any worse at achieving your goals than, you know, trying to eliminate homelessness and then overseeing like a 30% increase in homelessness. 0.96

00:13:06.260 It's utterly ridiculous.

00:13:07.260 It's like if, you know, I say that, yeah, you know, I'm going to, you know, get hired for this job as a lawyer. 0.93

00:13:15.040 You know, I'm going to get you off of your charges, you know, guaranteed.

00:13:18.840 And then, you know, they tack on an additional 20 years after my, you know, advocacy for you. 0.93

00:13:23.780 It's utterly ridiculous. 0.92

00:13:25.240 It's, he's not good at his job. 0.98

00:13:27.480 And, you know, again, definition of failing upwards.

00:13:30.080 I failed as a Vancouver mayor and this qualifies me to be the minister of housing for some reason.

00:13:36.320 Yeah.

00:13:36.600 And Noah and the housing minister, I think the day after he was appointed was doing an interview and he said that housing prices don't need to come down.

00:13:45.360 I'm paraphrasing there. 0.88

00:13:46.360 But yeah, I mean, what a ridiculous thing to say. 0.95

00:13:48.620 Talk about a bad first day on the job.

00:13:50.600 Alex, did you have any opinion on Carney's new housing minister?

00:13:56.420 Yeah.

00:13:56.940 I mean, I think Noah hit the nail on the head for sure, right?

00:13:59.820 Vancouver has the most absurd housing market probably in the world.

00:14:04.660 So to have the former Vancouver mayor as the housing minister, again, it just feels like a troll on Canadians.

00:14:11.940 I'm not too confident that he's going to be able to do much to help the situation.

00:14:17.220 And also, I mean, what was that point of the last cabinet shuffle?

00:14:21.400 Like they're, they're saying that they want to build one house every two minutes.

00:14:25.160 And Nathaniel Erskine Smith was the housing minister for what, like a couple of, couple of months.

00:14:31.380 How much could he have possibly accomplished during that time?

00:14:34.360 And parliament was boroughed.

00:14:36.640 So I, I really don't know what the purpose of that last cabinet shuffle was, right?

00:14:41.000 These people held these positions for a very short period of time, knowing that they were going to be calling an election.

00:14:45.340 So, yeah, it just seems like they're shuffling the chairs on the Titanic.

00:14:50.660 Yeah.

00:14:51.080 Just quickly on housing.

00:14:52.140 Of course, Trudeau made some crazy promises on, on the housing goals that he would hit.

00:14:58.000 And of course, housing supply went down year over year.

00:15:00.340 But I will say Carney might actually hit those same goals, which he's saying, because he's so invested and a bit of a pun there, by the way, in modular homes.

00:15:10.220 So he might actually hit the 500,000 home goal a year or whatever it is through prefabricated homes.

00:15:16.140 So, uh, might be seeing more trailer parks pop up across the country.

00:15:22.480 Uh, yeah, we could probably move on.

00:15:25.460 We've, we've covered the cabinet file quite extensively.

00:15:29.140 Um, so another interesting story was getting, going from the cabinet to terrorism.

00:15:37.160 So there's this man who, uh, was trying to join a Middle Eastern terrorist organization, uh, and he lived in Toronto, I believe.

00:15:45.780 And, uh, yeah, no, no, no big deal, guys.

00:15:48.340 He's just joining a terrorist organization, but, ah, that's nothing.

00:15:51.120 So here we'll, we'll let, we'll let you out on house arrest, uh, and an $1,000 bond, and a $1,000 bond for a terrorist.

00:15:58.160 I mean, this is crazy.

00:15:59.220 Alex, you're of course our, our crime specialist.

00:16:01.260 Uh, so you probably know a lot more about, uh, the regular process here than I do, because I just read these, these headlines and, and really shake my head just thinking, how is this possible?

00:16:11.840 Is this kind of what we've come to expect in Canada?

00:16:16.320 To some extent, these are pretty rare charges.

00:16:20.480 So there's actually a case right now in the Vancouver Supreme Court.

00:16:24.680 Um, it's a somewhat similar charge.

00:16:26.200 A woman had gone to Syria, uh, allegedly to join ISIS and, and that one is actually going through the courts right now, uh, because on her return to Canada and she was arrested, she's also, um, out and free.

00:16:41.560 Um, so yeah, I mean, this is kind of Canada's revolving door justice system, right?

00:16:45.660 People get charged with these heinous crimes and then they get put on house arrest and we just pray to God that they don't blow anything up.

00:16:53.260 Yeah. And in this, uh, case specifically, this person, uh, you know, the, the crown, they saw a terrorism peace bond because they weren't, uh, this person was in charge with any specific charge, but, uh, he was attempting to, uh, go join a terrorist organization, uh, more than likely in Yemen.

00:17:11.720 He's a Yemeni person, uh, who came to Canada a few years ago, uh, uh, you know, this, uh, terrorist organization that he went to join allegedly was an Iran backed, uh, organization.

00:17:23.560 So more than likely the Houthis, um, so we could just, uh, see the power of, uh, online, uh, Islamic propaganda, but this is all really a consequence of the liberals disastrous immigration system. 0.72

00:17:37.000 The immigration system that they've built over the past 10 years has become so permissive to where people who have these, uh, terrorist sympathies are able to come into our country.

00:17:46.980 And it's not like this person wasn't demonstrating signs of this earlier on, uh, this person, uh, he has a very long, uh, name that's hard to pronounce.

00:17:54.680 So I'm not even going to try, uh, but yeah, this person, uh, had frequented, uh, pro Hamas rallies, uh, you know, wrapping himself in the Yemeni flag, uh, you know, going online, uh, you know, repeating, uh, anti-Semitic or anti-Semitic adjacent rhetoric, uh, as, uh, B'nai B'rith had documented.

00:18:14.840 And, uh, at the end of the day, uh, the federal government, they are looking to bring in more of these, uh, type of people.

00:18:22.580 Uh, for example, I broke, uh, a story in, uh, this is based out of Victoria, B.C., where, uh, the federal government is giving $300,000 to, uh, this immigration organization to promote mass immigration, to continue to promote the idea that, uh, immigration isn't causing, uh, the house, housing crisis.

00:18:43.180 Immigration isn't causing, uh, many of our social services, like healthcare, uh, you know, just, uh, the quality of our roads, even, uh, to deteriorate, uh, immigration isn't, uh, causing, uh, social fray within, uh, Canada's, uh, social fabric, where you see, uh, certain ethnic groups, uh, go into conflicts on inner streets.

00:19:04.120 For example, with, uh, Hindus and, uh, Sikhs, who, you know, many Sikhs are very anti the government in India, the Modi government.

00:19:12.200 And many Hindus are proud of their country and, uh, you know, are supportive of the Modi government.

00:19:17.220 And they clash over the stuff in the streets.

00:19:19.420 And then you get the pro-Kalistani people who are even more radical.

00:19:22.760 Um, you have these sort of conflicts in our streets and the federal government, they don't acknowledge these issues.

00:19:30.040 Uh, they just try to brush them under the rug.

00:19:32.220 They say that the people who are blaming immigration, uh, for these problems are actually blaming the immigrants and that they are bigoted and racist and should be condemned.

00:19:42.100 And, you know, just a cast away from polite society.

00:19:45.660 And, uh, you know, you have these people who come to this country and they plot either terrorist attacks or they plot to join terrorist groups. 0.51

00:19:54.740 And, you know, there's not really much you can do about that.

00:19:58.500 You, all you can really do is hope that you catch them, uh, before they commit these acts.

00:20:02.420 I know the RCMP, uh, or the Toronto police, they caught someone before, um, someone tried to commit a terrorist attack, uh, earlier this year in Toronto.

00:20:10.100 And, uh, in this case, you had, uh, the RCMP managing to capture this person before they were able to, uh, go off to Yemen and join the Houthis more than likely.

00:20:19.620 But at the end of the day, there are going to be instances where, um, you know, these, uh, people fall through the cracks and, uh, they're, you know, God forbid, uh, they're able to commit these heinous, uh, you know, acts of terror.

00:20:32.800 And, you know, I don't want to live in a country in which we have to live under the fear and threat of, uh, Islamic adjacent terrorist attacks. 0.56

00:20:43.200 And, and just bringing it back to cabinet for a second, we of course know Sean Fraser, uh, he did a remarkable job as minister of housing and immigration, uh, two separate files, but, and a bit of sarcasm there.

00:20:55.920 But now he is the minister of justice and we've seen essentially all the premiers in the country say, please get rid of this revolving door justice system.

00:21:07.440 We've seen all the, well, many police organizations and unions across the country say, there's nothing we can do.

00:21:12.900 We keep arresting the same people.

00:21:14.220 You keep letting them out because of this policy.

00:21:16.020 What are the chances, uh, the new justice minister, Sean Fraser will, will, I mean, improve our, our crime conundrum we're in here with, with the revolving door justice system.

00:21:28.520 What do you guys think?

00:21:30.160 Well, I don't think he's going to do anything at all.

00:21:32.620 I mean, he has already said that he thought that Paul Yev's proposals to repeal bill C five and bill C 75.

00:21:39.840 Uh, he called them weird.

00:21:41.560 I don't know why, given that, as you had mentioned, many police associations have been calling on the government to repeal these laws because they do contribute to the revolving door justice system.

00:21:52.380 Uh, we have so many repeat offenders, violent repeat offenders, um, who are immediately given bail.

00:21:58.880 I mean, bill C five in particular, uh, it encourages judges to provide bail with the least onerous conditions possible.

00:22:06.060 So you have people that are violent criminals, just walking out into the street and recommitting their crimes and going back to jail and then coming back out and committing crimes again.

00:22:18.140 And I just, uh, I don't really know how Sean Fraser could not see that as an issue.

00:22:24.160 Well, the fact that Sean Fraser calls, uh, you know, the idea, uh, calls Paul Yev's ideas of repealing C, uh, C five and C 75 is a weird, uh, you know, that, that's kind of gross to me.

00:22:36.040 You know, people are really, you know, being harmed by these policies.

00:22:39.440 People are out in the street dying because, uh, repeat offenders are going out into the streets and, you know, they feel as if there is no real reason for them to stop doing what they're doing.

00:22:49.740 They are just going to get released into the streets once and again and again and again.

00:22:53.840 And you have the cases like the Miles Sanderson case, um, up in, I think it was, uh, Saskatchewan where he murdered like a dozen people, uh, on an Indian reservation.

00:23:04.240 And you had the, the case, I think in Nova Scotia where someone was pretending to be a RCMP officer and they murdered again, like a dozen people.

00:23:12.320 Uh, these are real, really serious issues that affect the lives of Canadians and to describe, you know, policies, uh, that are, you know, being released, um, uh, or releasing criminals onto the streets, uh, you know, as you know, uh, promoting the, the goodwill of the Canadian people.

00:23:31.240 And, you know, describing, um, ideas to repeal these laws as being weird is just a minimization of the importance of this issue.

00:23:39.240 And at the end of the day is not someone who should be the, the minister of justice.

00:23:44.240 You know, this portfolio is a very serious portfolio.

00:23:46.240 They managed our criminal justice system and our criminal justice system is in disarray.

00:23:51.240 You know, as you guys have mentioned, we, we currently are living in a country where there is a catch and release system.

00:23:57.240 You commit a crime, you rob a store, you, uh, punch a random stranger in the face.

00:24:02.240 You know, you're dealing drugs.

00:24:04.240 You're out in the streets after a day, you know, you try to, uh, you know, join the Houthis.

00:24:09.240 Uh, you're out on the streets, uh, in a day on a terrorism peace bond where you're going to be released into a mosque. 0.87

00:24:16.240 And then, uh, you know, you're, you're only, uh, the only restrictions on your movement is, you know, going within 500 meters of an airport or a border crossing, which, you know, my opinion is, uh, not sufficient.

00:24:27.240 Uh, you know, this is the country that we're living in.

00:24:31.240 And, you know, I think most Canadians, they see these stories and, uh, they, they think this is crazy.

00:24:37.240 They want reform.

00:24:38.240 They wants to stat substantive reform.

00:24:40.240 The premiers of are calling for reform.

00:24:42.240 The police associations are calling for reform.

00:24:44.240 And then to call, you know, these, uh, this outcry that outpouring, uh, for reform as weird.

00:24:50.240 Uh, well, Hey, that's weird, but also that's cruel.

00:24:54.240 It is cruel.

00:24:55.240 And, but there is an exception.

00:24:57.240 We do throw the book at political protesters.

00:25:01.240 Yeah.

00:25:02.240 Yeah.

00:25:03.240 And I just, I, I don't know who would be advocating for this catch and release policy.

00:25:06.240 Obviously it's terrible for Canadians who are having these crimes committed on them, but also terrible for the criminals, uh, which remember, I mean, jail can be a good thing.

00:25:14.240 You're reforming criminals here.

00:25:16.240 Like these people are not going to reform because they're not learning a lesson because they just commit a crime and then get released the very next day. 0.97

00:25:23.240 It's ridiculous. 0.94

00:25:24.240 Of course, they're not going to improve their lives. 0.87

00:25:25.240 Improve their lives and, and any country with a good criminal justice system.

00:25:30.240 What, what you want to see is your reoffending rate be as low as possible, because that means you're reforming criminals.

00:25:36.240 You're actually doing the, the, the job of a, of a prison of a justice system.

00:25:40.240 I mean, we, we, we could go on, uh, probably forever, but instead let's, let's cover, uh, a more fun crime story of sorts, I guess.

00:25:53.240 So there was this psychic, uh, who was a fugitive for two decades from Florida, I believe, uh, because he, unrelated to his psychicness, he, uh, was charged with manslaughter for, for, uh, drinking and driving and killing two teens.

00:26:09.240 But, uh, he was caught in Toronto, I think.

00:26:13.240 Doesn't Toronto already have enough criminals, guys?

00:26:15.240 Why, why is he taking a refuge in Toronto of all places?

00:26:19.240 Well, you, this is, uh, probably the refuge for criminals.

00:26:23.240 You know, I guess, uh, rumor is, it has it that you walk up to a Canadian border and you apply for refugees saying, I'm a criminal in another country.

00:26:30.240 You know, please take me in.

00:26:31.240 They'll, they'll take you in.

00:26:32.240 Uh, that's obviously a joke, but, uh, yeah, I mean, like, you know, Canada is a refuge for, uh, you know, people who want to, I guess, move, uh, to back to Yemen and commit terrorist acts. 0.68

00:26:42.240 Or, uh, you know, for people, uh, you know, a lot of people complain that, uh, uh, Canada doesn't crack down on money laundering, for example.

00:26:49.240 And you have a lot of these storefronts, um, that are kind of, uh, shady that are not really profitable businesses, clearly not profitable businesses, but nonetheless, you know, they seem to be able to keep the lights on and, uh, pay the rent.

00:27:02.240 Um, and it's quite suspicious and that's cause, you know, Canada doesn't really do a good job cracking down on money laundering, but this person was able to disguise himself as a psychic.

00:27:10.240 I think you, I don't want to like, uh, you know, give this person credit cause they did like, you know, kill people, um, in drunk driving, but, you know, give, give this person credit for being able to use their psychic powers to, uh, you know, I guess, uh, get the police off of them.

00:27:24.240 You know, I don't know what sort of mind control trickery magic that, you know, he, uh, you know, is doing over there, but I guess it worked for him to be able to avoid the law that long.

00:27:35.240 Well, he was on the, he was on the run for 21 years.

00:27:38.240 Do you think that was, uh, in part due to his, uh, psychic ability?

00:27:42.240 He could see when the cops are coming.

00:27:44.240 Well, it really does make you wonder how many, because we all know we have the world's largest unprotected border with the United States.

00:27:51.240 How many of fugitives from the United States are walking around?

00:27:56.240 I imagine it's a lot more than anybody can really grasp because nobody would go the other way, right?

00:28:03.240 Like if you committed a crime in Canada, you wouldn't go to the United States on the risk of getting caught in the United States and having to actually do jail time. 1.00

00:28:10.240 Well, only the stupid criminals do that. 0.99

00:28:12.240 Uh, there's this, uh, Toronto rapper named top five, uh, who basically like committed a heinous crime, like murdered someone or whatever. 1.00

00:28:21.240 Uh, and then, you know, he was trolling, uh, Toronto's mayor at the time, John Tory, uh, on social media, uh, while he's on the run.

00:28:28.240 And then he went to Los Angeles and, uh, got arrested.

00:28:31.240 I mean, like Los Angeles is like, kind of like, you know, a good alternative.

00:28:35.240 Uh, if, if you, if you're from Canada and you want to flee somewhere, it's like, ah, it's basically like warmer Canada there, especially the way they, they're governed by, uh, Gavin Newsom and friends.

00:28:44.240 Uh, but yeah, I mean, he still got caught.

00:28:47.240 So, uh, I guess, I guess it was a really good idea.

00:28:50.240 Same thing with the, uh, Toronto gold heist.

00:28:52.240 The only person serving jail time right now is in the United States because he made the mistake of going to the United States where they actually put people in jail.

00:29:02.240 Yeah.

00:29:03.240 Were the rest released on bail?

00:29:07.240 Um, yeah, one of them, I believe so.

00:29:10.240 Yeah.

00:29:11.240 That did one of them is in India, I think.

00:29:13.240 And another one is, uh, allegedly in Dubai.

00:29:17.240 So.

00:29:18.240 Yeah.

00:29:19.240 You know, if India get, get so mad that, you know, we have like alleged, you know, criminals, uh, that we're harboring, you know, why can't, you know, they do the same for us? 0.67

00:29:28.240 I guess, uh, you know, I, I don't want to continue this line of thought because I'm going to say something I'm not allowed to.

00:29:34.240 But at the end of the day, uh, you know, like we, we, we, we don't really like take, take the, you know, uh, this stuff too seriously.

00:29:42.240 And in the case of the psychic, I mean, you know, two decades is a long time.

00:29:46.240 There's no like person who like, who was able to identify this person.

00:29:49.240 Uh, there was no, I guess, you know, like, look, look, these psychic businesses.

00:29:53.240 I don't know if you've ever been to a mall or like a flea market where they have, you know, these, uh, services or whatever.

00:29:59.240 They're not like legitimate.

00:30:00.240 They're actually like scamming people, uh, honestly, like, you know, they're engaging in, uh, deceptive business practices.

00:30:06.240 Uh, so it's not like, uh, the, you know, the, the, uh, the provincial governments haven't been, you know, vetting, uh, these businesses or whatever, because, you know, they, they are kind of, uh, you know, sketchy or whatever.

00:30:19.240 But the fact that, you know, he was able to avoid the law after 21 years after running a sketchy business, it's like, you know, uh, committing a crime, going to another country and then becoming a drug dealer, you know, opening a storefront for cocaine.

00:30:32.240 And then, you know, avoiding law for 21 years.

00:30:34.240 It was like, well, you know, that's kind of your fault for not catching the guy.

00:30:37.240 But, uh, yeah, I must say though, he is aging.

00:30:41.240 Well, based on the picture, I don't know what that has to do with his psychic ability, but you know, like he looks younger.

00:30:54.240 Oh, wow.

00:30:55.240 Yeah.

00:30:56.240 He's aging in reverse.

00:30:57.240 Eh?

00:30:58.240 Yeah.

00:30:59.240 Like psych himself out into, you know, not aging.

00:31:02.240 Yeah.

00:31:03.240 I don't like how you should sell health products.

00:31:07.240 That's a, maybe I should get into that, uh, industry, you know, make myself look, uh, youthful until I'm 60 and then I get arrested.

00:31:18.240 But, you know, that's besides the point.

00:31:20.240 All right.

00:31:21.240 Before we lose Noah as a colleague and he becomes a psychic, I just want to remind everyone, everything we heard today was off the record.

00:31:32.240 Yeah.

00:31:33.240 So do you guys believe in psychic ability?

00:31:34.240 I don't know.

00:31:35.240 After I'm, I'm thinking 21 years on the run, uh, successfully.

00:31:38.240 Well, not successful in the end, but I might, I might, I might be starting to believe.

00:31:42.240 No, all those people in university who believe in like horoscope with stuff, I might have to apologize to them, you know?

00:31:50.240 Like, oh yeah.

00:31:51.240 Those, uh, that crystal that you have that, you know, just mineral rock that you, you touch at the beginning of the day and think that gives you powers.

00:31:59.240 You know, maybe it's actually real.

00:32:00.240 Maybe I should, uh, sort of second guessing everything that I've believed in life.

00:32:05.240 Yeah.

00:32:06.240 No, I might've told this story before, but one of my most memorable university classes was the first day of one of my psychology courses.

00:32:12.240 And, uh, the teacher had the gusto to talk about, he was talking about pseudoscience, which of course is fake science.

00:32:18.240 And the first thing he brought up is horoscopes.

00:32:20.240 And I'm like, I'm looking around, there's so many girls and there's just like 200 people in this class.

00:32:24.240 I'm looking around and like looking at these girls and like, they, they cannot be happy with what he just said about the horoscopes.

00:32:29.240 He's like, yeah, this is fake.

00:32:30.240 I'm like, oh, this is like horoscopes.

00:32:35.240 I don't know why.

00:32:37.240 Um, I figured there's gotta be something there, right?

00:32:40.240 Because like, you know, if the moon changes the tide and we're mostly water, I think there might be something there.

00:32:48.240 Yeah.

00:32:49.240 The moon positioning.

00:32:50.240 That's why we have all these repeat offenders.

00:32:52.240 I guess there's no water.

00:32:54.240 It's true.

00:32:55.240 Like you guys know, like on a full midnight, like the emergency room, they have more, more visitors.

00:33:00.240 There's more crime.

00:33:01.240 Like that stuff.

00:33:02.240 It does affect human behavior.

00:33:04.240 It's still like statistically.

00:33:05.240 That's maybe that's what John Frazier's new, new platform will say.

00:33:08.240 We just got to monitor the moon better.

00:33:09.240 Send out more cops when it's a full moon or just nuke the moon.

00:33:14.240 I don't know about that one.

00:33:17.240 Isn't that, wasn't that Dr.

00:33:19.240 Evil's plot from despicable me.

00:33:22.240 This deals the moon.

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