Juno News - Carney sidelines pipelines + Doug Ford tells unemployed youth to “look harder”

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, filling in for Candace this week.

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00:00:33.040 Lots to talk about, super busy day today, and that's because you can hear it, okay? The kids are coming back to school in Ottawa. The circus is about to go back into Ottawa.

00:00:43.080 But first, they're actually occupying Alberta's capital right now, the Federal Liberal Caucus. What that means is all of the elected MPs are gathering in Edmonton, Alberta.

00:00:55.480 So what they're supposed to be doing is putting their heads together, saying, what do we want to do for the fall session? What do we want our priorities to be? What is the opposition going to throw at us?

00:01:05.200 All important stuff for the government. But we have some breaking news here that will definitely be throwing a spanner into this works.

00:01:14.040 It is from Radio Canada, which is the French arm of our state broadcaster, the CBC.

00:01:20.660 But they've got several sources, and they're writing initially in French media, but it's taking off through English media now through translation, and it goes something like this.

00:01:29.680 Apparently, a pipeline is not high on the priority list. It's not on the menu for Prime Minister's Mark Carney's to-do list.

00:01:40.060 If that's true, buckle up.

00:01:42.980 Because as we know, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe have been crystal clear about this, saying they want Bill C-69 either modified entirely or scrapped altogether.

00:01:56.760 That's the so-called no more pipelines law. They want the tanker ban off the West Coast gone.

00:02:03.120 Basically, we've got the two kind of real resource-rich powerhouse provinces, Alberta and Saskatchewan, linking arms and telling Ottawa,

00:02:12.320 after 10 years of strangulation, after 10 years of saying no, no, no, no, no to resources and chasing away hundreds of billions of dollars in investment in Canada, that's over.

00:02:24.440 We want to change. You have to take this seriously.

00:02:27.640 And things like East-West pipelines to get product out to market, the world market, that is a must.

00:02:34.280 So if this is true, and if they're not actually going to make this a priority, that's going to be a really big deal.

00:02:42.120 Where do we go from here when we're in this kind of a situation in Canada, when we have the House of Commons coming back in Ottawa?

00:02:49.100 What's going to be the major issue? Let's find out.

00:02:52.460 Joining us now is Brian Lilly. He is the senior columnist for the Toronto Sun newspaper chain.

00:02:58.140 Do you like me calling you senior? Or do you want me to call you, like, chief columnist? Like, what would you prefer?

00:03:03.480 I don't know if that's my official title, but it does make me sound old, which I guess I am.

00:03:09.300 Like, you were my intern, what, 25 years ago?

00:03:12.840 So, backstory, yeah. I had to jump in Brian's car when we were working at radio. We were going to a house fire.

00:03:17.840 It was like 3 in the morning. That's back when radio stations had stuff and reporters, and we covered things.

00:03:22.860 So, yes, Brian Lilly, he is with the Toronto Sun newspaper chain.

00:03:26.680 He also is host of his podcast, Full Comment. I strongly recommend that you listen to this podcast.

00:03:34.120 Thank you.

00:03:35.200 No, really, that's how I catch up on stuff on the weekends.

00:03:38.000 I'll plug in to talk radio podcasts because you talk to some normies in the mainstream media, and you also talk to people like us in indie media.

00:03:47.300 So, it's a great conduit, Brian.

00:03:49.100 We have so much to talk about here.

00:03:50.660 We were chatting over the weekend, and you got a chance to sit down with a fireside chat with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith.

00:03:57.740 What was your main takeaway from that?

00:04:00.180 She's optimistic about Alberta's future in Canada.

00:04:03.300 Well, that was before this news came out.

00:04:05.240 I mean, we were talking about her number one priority.

00:04:09.500 The number one priority for the industry is a pipeline to the northwest coast of British Columbia.

00:04:15.040 She kind of downplayed the idea of Energy East, essentially saying, you know, it's not really feasible right now.

00:04:20.940 We should look elsewhere.

00:04:22.400 We talked about Churchill or perhaps a port just south of Churchill because, as she pointed out, Churchill, Manitoba is a major tourism destination.

00:04:29.840 But there is an opportunity just south of there that if we invest in the right infrastructure, it could be good for getting Alberta oil to eastern Canadian refineries, northeastern American refineries, and off to Europe as well.

00:04:46.080 So, look, she's very optimistic.

00:04:49.020 But then you get this news that they're not going to put forward a pipeline.

00:04:53.440 And I keep hearing liberals say, well, no company has put forward a proposal.

00:04:58.160 I mean, companies don't want to do this.

00:05:01.280 Why don't they want to do this, Chris?

00:05:03.320 Because the regulatory environment, whether it's Bill C-69, the West Coast tanker ban, the emissions cap, which is really a production cap, all of those things play out.

00:05:14.080 Now, you know me.

00:05:15.820 I'm an eastern Canadian boy.

00:05:17.760 I'm born and raised in Hamilton.

00:05:19.900 I've spent most of my career in the Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, you know, triangle.

00:05:25.760 But I understand western Canada.

00:05:27.500 You know, married to a Sasky, got, you know, worked with Saskys, got understanding of Alberta, friends in Alberta.

00:05:35.380 I understand all of this.

00:05:37.160 And I don't think that my colleagues here in eastern and central Canada really get what the sentiment is in Alberta.

00:05:45.380 And more importantly, Saskatchewan right now, because Saskatchewan has a higher percentage of people saying they want independence.

00:05:52.840 It's about only about a third, a little over a third.

00:05:55.600 But you keep doing stuff like this.

00:05:57.080 And guess what?

00:05:57.580 That goes higher.

00:05:58.760 That's because, go ahead.

00:06:00.420 Well, it just becomes a more popular expression of the frustration.

00:06:06.200 And there is a real frustration.

00:06:08.140 You know, as Premier Smith said to me, what really offends Albertans is getting eastern Canadian politicians saying, look, we don't want your product.

00:06:18.980 We don't want your pipeline.

00:06:20.040 But keep sending the equalization payments.

00:06:24.720 Exactly.

00:06:25.200 So people are going to, if this does not happen, if Mark Carney, you know, follows through on what Radio Canada is reporting, this is going to hurt national unity in a big, big way.

00:06:39.760 Yeah, it absolutely will.

00:06:42.080 My hunch is, is that separation sentiment is slightly higher in Saskatchewan is because of the population weighted in Edmonton.

00:06:50.680 There's a lot of kind of government embracing types that live around Edmonton.

00:06:55.680 Speaking of government embracing types that are in Edmonton, the Liberal caucus is having their usual like retreat where they go to some place in Canada that's outside of Ottawa, where we already pay for office buildings.

00:07:06.200 And they have their caucus retreat before the House comes back.

00:07:09.680 That's happening right now.

00:07:11.160 So lots happening.

00:07:12.280 Speaking of what's happening, to your point, straight up, you had a really good interview with the Premier over the weekend.

00:07:18.500 And what was funny, this is inside baseball, the Premier was like 30 seconds late and people stood up for a standing ovation to have Premier Smith walk into the room.

00:07:27.420 And it was great.

00:07:27.640 In walks Brian.

00:07:29.000 Yay.

00:07:29.800 It was great.

00:07:30.860 He took the podium for a second.

00:07:32.240 I'm going to defend, I'm going to interrupt here for a moment and defend the idea that the Liberals are holding their caucus retreat in Edmonton.

00:07:39.180 Okay.

00:07:39.440 I prefer they held it in Red Deer or Lethbridge or Calgary, but I'll take Edmonton.

00:07:45.740 Here's why this is important.

00:07:47.500 Because how many seats do the Liberals have in Alberta?

00:07:51.740 They have two across the entire Prairie region.

00:07:55.300 So we'll take Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta.

00:07:58.200 There are 65 seats.

00:07:59.500 Do you know how many the Liberals hold?

00:08:00.660 I think two or three?

00:08:02.780 Nine.

00:08:03.560 Nine.

00:08:04.080 Okay, wow.

00:08:04.720 That's even more than I thought.

00:08:06.280 They've got six in Manitoba.

00:08:07.740 They've got two in Alberta.

00:08:08.760 They've got one in Saskatchewan.

00:08:10.700 They don't understand this region.

00:08:12.540 And a lot of their Quebec and Ontario folks, they don't know this region.

00:08:16.400 So going out and speaking, I know folks will say, well, but they've already got the office built.

00:08:20.660 Look, the folks have to fly from all over the country anyway.

00:08:23.740 Take them to a region they don't know.

00:08:25.900 Expose them to the thinking.

00:08:27.340 Let them talk to normal people.

00:08:29.240 Hopefully they do.

00:08:30.780 You know, I'm not sure that they will.

00:08:32.580 I was going to say, will they though?

00:08:34.440 All right.

00:08:34.920 But I'm hopeful that they do.

00:08:36.380 And then maybe they get a better understanding and they go, hey, wait a minute.

00:08:41.440 It's not just, you know, bumpkins that are in favor of this. 0.61

00:08:45.700 Normal, regular people are so frustrated with the country that they're willing to say, maybe we're better off getting out.

00:08:51.900 And if you understand that, maybe you act and you do something like saying, you know what?

00:08:58.040 We got to get a pipeline on that list of national major projects.

00:09:02.040 Their very popular NHL team is called the Oilers.

00:09:06.120 Just saying, you know, kind of a thing.

00:09:08.580 Like whale oil?

00:09:10.180 Hey, quick side note.

00:09:11.980 And you and I talk about this all the time off air.

00:09:14.160 It was, it was petroleum.

00:09:16.140 It was the discovery of normal oil that we would consider normal oil coming out of the ground that saved the whales.

00:09:21.600 Look it up.

00:09:22.560 All of the oil before that was whale oil, my friends.

00:09:26.380 That's why they were this close to going extinct.

00:09:28.500 So the next time people get all up in your grill about wanting a pipeline or liking using natural gas and oil, tell them that's what saved the whales.

00:09:35.980 Okay.

00:09:36.500 You had a really good sit down with the premier and I wanted to highlight it.

00:09:40.160 We've got a clip from that interview.

00:09:41.780 Let's listen.

00:09:43.160 Are you optimistic that he'll move on the issues that you're raising?

00:09:46.960 You've gone from nine to three.

00:09:49.540 Any hope?

00:09:51.200 We need all nine, but there are certain ones that he has to get started on right away.

00:09:55.240 If we're going to get our bitumen pipeline to the northwest BC coast, you have to have a rewrite of the C-69 policies.

00:10:04.260 You have to get rid of the tanker ban and you have to get rid of the emissions cap.

00:10:07.280 No point in building a brand new shiny pipeline if you can't encourage your oil producers to fill it.

00:10:14.300 And even if it is filled, you're not allowed to load it on a ship to export it anywhere.

00:10:17.440 Like those are sort of the, those are, I call it the table stakes.

00:10:20.420 Those are the minimum they have to do to at least allow us to get a bitumen pipeline built.

00:10:26.140 And then we have to do the others as well.

00:10:28.980 Brian, what was your takeaway from your interview with the premier?

00:10:31.540 Like she was a good mix of, as the kids say, white pills and a couple of red pills in there. 1.00

00:10:35.780 You know, I've, I've known Danielle Smith off and on for 15 plus years now, I'd say.

00:10:43.800 And, you know, we, we've both worked in talk radio.

00:10:46.560 We've both worked in the media.

00:10:48.740 She is performing far above my expectations of her as premier.

00:10:53.560 And that's not an insult.

00:10:54.840 It's not like I expected it'd be horrible.

00:10:56.700 It's just that, you know, going from a talk radio host to premier, that's a big jump and she is done exceptionally well.

00:11:04.820 I think that there are people out my way that don't understand her, that don't understand the province and don't understand why she takes certain positions.

00:11:14.340 She was very positive about Alberta's future.

00:11:18.460 You know, is she still that positive?

00:11:20.300 I think she's going to put forward a positive view.

00:11:23.040 Her and Scott Moe, and I've spoken to both of them in public and in private, and they are willing to say, look, we'll work with Mark Carney.

00:11:32.600 They're saying that Mark Carney is far different than Justin Trudeau.

00:11:36.080 But every premier I've talked to, and I talked to lots of them, have said the same thing.

00:11:40.200 Justin Trudeau would show up at a meeting 45 minutes late, lecture you for 15 minutes, ignore everything you said, and leave early.

00:11:47.320 That was kind of what he did.

00:11:48.740 Mark Carney shows up on time, and even if he doesn't agree with you, listens and takes notes and asks follow-up questions, does all the things that you expect a leader to do that Justin Trudeau didn't.

00:12:03.260 So they've been willing to cut him some slack.

00:12:05.560 If he does not deliver on things like a bitumen pipeline, that will stop.

00:12:12.820 And I think that when you look at the polling, the entire country is behind building big infrastructure and developing our resources.

00:12:23.120 If he doesn't do that, he's going to lose popular support as well.

00:12:26.040 Look, you know, this may sound really inside baseball, but there's already been one decision that I think was idiotic, that was an easy win for Carney, and that was to overturn a CRTC decision that said Bell Canada had to hand over its internet lines, its Bell internet fiber lines, that they paid billions of dollars to install in Ontario to tell us, to sell at a discount.

00:12:53.460 So, you know, it used to be that if you were going to do that, well, you allowed the company a couple of years to recoup some of their investment. 0.72

00:13:00.900 And the CRTC said, no, we need cheaper internet, so we need to do this now.

00:13:05.420 And Cabinet could have overturned that and said, well, you know, companies won't invest if we don't allow them to recoup their investment.

00:13:12.480 They didn't do that.

00:13:14.160 Bell stopped laying fiber cable in southern Ontario and Quebec and elsewhere because they just said it makes no sense.

00:13:21.600 What they do, they turned around and used the money they saved to buy a company in the United States, why they can get a return on investment.

00:13:28.480 We need to make it so that companies can make money.

00:13:33.220 You know, you can hate Bell all you want.

00:13:35.060 You can hate Telus.

00:13:35.840 You can hate Rogers.

00:13:36.720 If these companies aren't making money, guess what?

00:13:38.760 They're not hiring people.

00:13:40.440 We need to have a business environment that allows companies to make money, be it in oil, be it in autos, be it in telecom. 0.85

00:13:49.700 But, you know, another stupid story that's out today is that the Carney government is looking at lifting the EV mandates.

00:13:56.060 And I know some of my friends who are canola farmers, hi, Uncle Doug, hi, Uncle Reg. 0.94

00:14:00.660 You know, they're going to be saying, well, yeah, we should lift those.

00:14:04.740 But China is selling their EVs to us at half the price of the cost of production.

00:14:10.480 Why?

00:14:11.100 They want to undermine the auto industry.

00:14:12.940 They want to undermine the steel industry.

00:14:14.420 They want to undermine the aluminum industry.

00:14:16.980 And there's no guarantee that if we lift these, it's going to lift the tariffs on canola.

00:14:21.620 Every time they have a trade dispute or any dispute with us, they tariff or block canola.

00:14:26.720 They block canola exports from 2020 to 2022.

00:14:30.360 No canola exports to China.

00:14:34.240 Those are bad trading partners.

00:14:36.420 We shouldn't rely on that.

00:14:37.900 And by the way, it is a small portion of the overall canola industry, which is massive and is important and we need to take care of.

00:14:46.400 But saying we're going to throw away our auto industry to save $5 billion worth of exports of canola to China doesn't make sense.

00:14:55.480 These guys need to get their heads on straight.

00:14:58.300 I think Mark Carney's a smart guy.

00:15:00.160 I think Tim Hodgson's a smart guy.

00:15:01.740 There's a couple of other smart people in the Carney cabinet and the rest of them are economic illiterates who, you know, potentially could be destroying the country.

00:15:10.560 Well, they were the ones that were jumping up on tables yelling, oh, captain, my captain, at somebody who is economically illiterate.

00:15:16.420 And that is Justin Trudeau.

00:15:17.700 So we are in a totally different world here.

00:15:20.140 I think what you meant just to qualify, you meant not lifting the EV mandates, but I think you meant lifting the tariffs on Chinese battery power.

00:15:28.000 No, no, I understood what you meant.

00:15:29.600 I just wanted to, before people kill Brian in the comments, that's what he meant, okay?

00:15:33.740 He didn't say that he wants the government to force you what kind of car you can drive.

00:15:36.980 No, no, no, no.

00:15:37.700 The EV mandates have to go.

00:15:39.280 And in fact, there's another example of not reading the room.

00:15:44.200 They pause the EV mandates.

00:15:46.400 What the industry needs is certainty, not uncertainty, regardless of industry.

00:15:51.280 Again, oil, auto, steel, aluminum, whatever industry, you need certainty.

00:15:57.560 And if you're just going to say, well, we'll pause the EV mandates but not get rid of them, and we'll review them for 60 days, that's not certainty.

00:16:06.280 That does not help.

00:16:08.440 Mark Carney is smarter than this.

00:16:10.900 He needs to act like he is smarter than this.

00:16:13.460 To your point exactly, I wanted to put a bow on this element of it.

00:16:17.860 You described it so well with Bell laying like fiber cable.

00:16:22.020 You can picture that almost like a pipeline of data, okay, running through instead of a pipeline of natural gas or bitumen or something.

00:16:29.600 And this is so critical.

00:16:31.000 If you have a country that, imagine you are Mr. Moneybags and you're a big oil person or you're a big company, right, and you've got money to invest, you've got stuff to sell, you have things to transport and transmit.

00:16:43.800 It could be data, it could be oil, you could be manufacturing vehicles.

00:16:47.280 And you're looking around at where to put down your purse, what neighborhood are you going to put your purse down in?

00:16:53.440 Are you going to put it on a park bench in Japan where it's a very high trust and everybody's helping each other out and everything is normal?

00:17:01.020 Or are you going to leave it on a subway somewhere where you know it's going to be gone?

00:17:05.880 Where do they want to be confident they're going to put their money?

00:17:09.140 And the example of Kinder Morgan getting that pipeline eventually slowly throttlingly slaughtered and killed by the Trudeau government and walking away.

00:17:18.940 And then the taxpayer walks in and spends $30 billion on the thing that was supposed to be private investment.

00:17:26.000 This is exactly the point you're making here, Brian.

00:17:29.000 How do they change that?

00:17:30.620 Can Kearney change that climate?

00:17:33.020 Well, look, we not only had to have the government buy Kinder Morgan and Trans Mountain, they had to, you know, Trans, or sorry, Keystone XL was killed.

00:17:45.780 You know, Trudeau guys did not fight overly hard against their good buddies, Joe Biden or Obama before that, to try and get it built.

00:17:55.000 They did not, you know, fight the Americans on that.

00:17:58.400 There were no elbows up.

00:18:00.220 They killed off Northern Gateway.

00:18:02.120 They made it regulatory and regulatorily impossible for Energy East to move forward.

00:18:09.200 So all of these things have happened.

00:18:10.880 None of that has changed.

00:18:11.940 You are still sitting in a regulatory environment where none of these companies can move forward.

00:18:17.360 So why would they?

00:18:19.820 You know, we need to be smarter about this.

00:18:23.560 And we are in a moment where the public is willing to accept a lot of these things.

00:18:28.280 That maybe a few years ago, a few more people would have said, no, no, I don't like that.

00:18:32.760 Let's, you know, keep the oil in the ground.

00:18:34.480 Now people are willing to say, let's, let's move forward.

00:18:38.080 Let's, let's build.

00:18:40.300 And, you know, just constantly getting in our own way seems to be Canada's biggest problem.

00:18:48.320 And, and I can go through example after example of that.

00:18:51.860 We get in our own way.

00:18:53.460 It, you know, get out of the way, allow business to thrive, allow the, you know, in 2012, our GDP per capita was equal to the United States, meaning that the, the average Canadian was making about the same as the average American.

00:19:10.060 You know what we're at now?

00:19:11.860 We're $30,000 per person behind.

00:19:15.600 That is, that is insanity.

00:19:18.040 That means that your buying power and my buying power and everyone in the audience, their buying power is lower.

00:19:24.820 We do not make the money that we, we need to make.

00:19:27.660 As Premier Smith said to me on the weekend, if we had Keystone XL, if we had Energy East, if we had Northern Gateway, that would be adding more than $55 billion a year to government coffers that could pay for the NATO committee.

00:19:40.060 It could pay for more commitment, it could pay for more schools, it could pay for more hospitals, on and on and on.

00:19:44.400 But we have decided to throttle ourselves and whether it is in mining or oil or forestry, we need to get out of our own way.

00:19:54.500 We have immense natural resources.

00:19:56.880 We have great industrial capabilities, allow companies to thrive and people will thrive and governments will be able to provide the services they want.

00:20:07.040 Or we can keep getting in our own way, not have the money for the services that we want, and whine about how Donald Trump is hurting us.

00:20:14.200 No, Trudeau liberals have done more damage to us over the last 10 years than Donald Trump ever will.

00:20:20.740 And if we keep getting in our own way, we are just going to keep doing more damage to ourselves than Donald Trump will.

00:20:27.160 The Americans are letting their economy thrive.

00:20:29.560 We need to let ours thrive as well.

00:20:31.620 Excellent points.

00:20:33.360 Before I let you go quickly, I had to give you the opportunity to weigh in, and I actually don't know what you think about this.

00:20:38.980 So this is kind of fun.

00:20:41.200 Premier Doug Ford, now this is according to the Red Star, but it's in the Toronto Star.

00:20:46.460 And Premier Doug Ford, where you're sitting right now, there at Queen's Park in Toronto, the centre of everything,

00:20:51.500 apparently said something along the lines of, oh, well, if youth unemployment is super high and people can't get jobs, they just need to look harder.

00:21:00.680 Now, I'm paraphrasing, and again, there isn't a clip of this that I've seen yet.

00:21:04.560 That did not strike me as the usual populist Ford brother sort of thing that I would have expected out of that Ford nation crowd 10 years ago.

00:21:14.640 And I think the latest stat I saw, this was crazy.

00:21:18.620 They were for your World Fair.

00:21:20.880 What do you guys call it there?

00:21:21.820 The C&E?

00:21:22.600 The big fancy thing you guys do?

00:21:23.740 The C&E, yes.

00:21:24.600 It's not the World Fair.

00:21:25.940 They call it the P&E out in Vancouver.

00:21:28.600 So I think it's the C&E.

00:21:29.200 The Canadian National Exhibition is what it's called.

00:21:32.520 There you go.

00:21:33.100 World Fair is from the 1800s, but it looks so pretty with the big glass house.

00:21:36.200 Anyway, apparently they had like 50,000 people apply to work there, which was just an astonishing amount.

00:21:43.180 And we've got now, we have the federal conservatives, looks like they're going to fight hard on this temporary foreign worker thing,

00:21:49.320 the notion that there's thousands of people flooding the entry-level job market.

00:21:54.060 I don't like calling it low-skill because people bust their butts in those jobs.

00:21:57.200 So what was your take on this?

00:21:58.820 If it's true, and that's what Ford said, okay, well, I'm trying to give him an out here.

00:22:04.640 Why would he say something like that?

00:22:06.720 It just, to me, it's pretty tone-deaf of him to say something like that, but I don't know how you feel about it.

00:22:11.420 I feel like Doug Ford's tone-deaf on this.

00:22:14.900 So I believe he was speaking at an event with the Toronto Region Board of Trade, Turbot, as we call it here in the city.

00:22:22.620 And let me read you the quote from my crosstown rival colleague, Rob Ferguson, from the Queen's Park Bureau of the Toronto Star.

00:22:31.140 He quoted Ford as saying,

00:22:34.160 It drives me nuts when I see young, healthy people, and they'll call me saying, I can't find a job.

00:22:40.600 I assure you, if you look hard enough, maybe be it in fast food or something, but you'll find a job.

00:22:49.920 Okay.

00:22:51.420 To a degree, I agree with that.

00:22:54.640 If you work hard and you hustle, you can find a job.

00:22:58.840 I've been working since the age of 14, and I've rarely been unemployed in my life, and some people don't look hard enough for a job.

00:23:08.800 But what is youth unemployment at in Ontario?

00:23:12.100 It's 14%, 15% in the 15 to 24-year-old category.

00:23:17.340 In Alberta, it's 17%.

00:23:18.640 It was 17%.

00:23:19.380 It was 20%, but like Ontario, the unemployment rate dropped in Alberta and Ontario, not because there are more jobs, but because people stopped looking for work.

00:23:31.660 Correct.

00:23:31.740 Things are not good right now.

00:23:34.240 And the temporary foreign worker program is a problem.

00:23:37.520 It's not the biggest problem, by the way.

00:23:39.480 It's one of them, and it's an easy one to attack, but you've also got the International Mobility Program, which has more than a million people with work permits from out of the country coming into Canada.

00:23:50.420 You've got the student population, which is significantly higher than it was several years ago. 0.66

00:23:56.820 Yes, it's dropped from the stupid highs of maybe a year to 18 months ago, but it's still higher than it was. 0.58

00:24:04.140 And they have work permits. 0.85

00:24:06.660 You've got the 190,000 people that applied for asylum last year and were almost immediately given work permits.

00:24:14.020 You are bringing in a ton of people.

00:24:15.760 Then you've got the permanent residents that are coming in at almost 500,000.

00:24:20.580 And yes, of course they're allowed to work.

00:24:22.420 That's why they're coming into the country. 0.99

00:24:24.240 Yeah.

00:24:24.540 But we are adding, as Justin Trudeau said, in April of 2024, we are bringing people faster than we can absorb them.

00:24:32.040 And Justin Trudeau, in April of 2014 and in April of 2024, said that these programs help drive down wages and suppress employment for young people.

00:24:42.940 So, yeah, this has been a problem, and it needs to be fixed.

00:24:47.240 So, on the one hand, there's a bit of truth to what the premier says.

00:24:51.560 If you hustle, you can find a job.

00:24:53.280 But we've also got restaurant after restaurant, service job after service job, saying that they're looking to hire temporary foreign workers when you've got unemployment above 6%, 7%, 8%.

00:25:07.600 You know, until April of 2022, the federal regulation said that you could not get a labor market impact assessment to bring in a temporary foreign worker if the local unemployment rate was above 6%.

00:25:22.200 We have had national and regional unemployment well above 6% for the last 18 months, and they got rid of that.

00:25:30.160 They also increased it from 10% of your workforce up to 20%, and in some cases, you can have 30% of your workforce be temporary foreign workers.

00:25:41.020 Mark Carney was asked about this.

00:25:43.180 You know, Pierre Polyev says completely scrapped the program.

00:25:45.680 That's probably not the right idea, but maybe put the guardrails back on.

00:25:49.640 Maybe do something.

00:25:52.300 But, you know, Carney just says, no, this is the number two issue.

00:25:55.620 Of course, it's the number two issue for employers.

00:25:58.000 They want low wages.

00:26:00.080 They don't want to have to pay more.

00:26:02.240 And, you know, look, as an employer, I can understand that.

00:26:05.820 But bringing in cheap indentured servants is not the way to fix the economy. 0.82

00:26:13.620 And so, yeah, something has to be done on this.

00:26:16.660 Doug Ford, completely off base on this.

00:26:19.140 I think that you'll see him say some kind of apology.

00:26:22.880 But then again, maybe not.

00:26:25.060 He's still talking about punishing Diageo, the company that owns Crown Royal, and threatening to take all their products off the shelves because he has a political disagreement with them.

00:26:35.500 But does he know, like seriously, does he know it's made in Gimli, like big time?

00:26:39.540 Like it's made in Gimli, Manitoba.

00:26:41.080 It's made in Gimli, Manitoba and Valleyfield, Quebec. 0.98

00:26:44.820 That's loser in Canada. 0.99

00:26:46.020 It was only being bottled in Amherstburg. 0.63

00:26:50.080 So, like logistically, think about it.

00:26:52.000 You're making it in Quebec, just outside Montreal, and northwest of Winnipeg.

00:26:57.260 And then you're trucking it down to Amherstburg to bottle, to send to the U.S.

00:27:02.540 Logistically, that doesn't make sense.

00:27:04.040 This was not a Trump tariff thing, but he's all about Trump and the tariffs and fighting the orange bad man in Washington. 0.81

00:27:10.660 So, I don't quite get it.

00:27:14.540 But, you know, maybe he'll walk this back.

00:27:17.700 Maybe he won't.

00:27:18.700 But, you know, he's off the mark on this one.

00:27:22.220 Youth unemployment is at the highest level in decades.

00:27:25.580 And that is a real problem.

00:27:27.580 And an awful lot of it has to do with temporary foreign workers, international mobility program, opening up how many hours international students can work.

00:27:37.440 And, you know, I mentioned 190,000 asylum seekers.

00:27:41.940 You know that a decade ago we were only getting about 16,000 asylum seekers a year?

00:27:47.560 Now we're getting more than 10 times that?

00:27:50.100 And they're all getting work permits?

00:27:52.500 That's really going to mess up your entry-level job market, which is what people in the 15- to 24-year-old category are looking for.

00:28:02.040 You know, walk this one back, Pringer.

00:28:05.040 Yeah, I just got to pass a note.

00:28:06.600 But apparently the new youth unemployment rate in Ontario is 16.5%.

00:28:11.200 16.5%.

00:28:12.220 Okay, so why not?

00:28:13.060 That's crazy.

00:28:13.760 I don't know.

00:28:14.380 These new stats come out all the time.

00:28:15.880 Brian, every time I open up a new door on stuff, like what you were just saying of, like, the per capita and all this, like, it's awful.

00:28:22.640 Like, every time I open up a new thing of, like, okay, you know, carbon tax is a problem, this EV mandate's a problem, and then you tell me something like the disparity with wages and earnings between Canada and the United States now.

00:28:34.880 So, outstanding work.

00:28:36.420 Thank you so much for your coverage on this.

00:28:37.980 Once again, folks, if you don't read his column, make sure you change that.

00:28:41.400 Head on over to the Toronto Sun.

00:28:43.280 Check that out.

00:28:44.260 And please listen to his podcast.

00:28:46.060 It's really funny.

00:28:47.080 He brings all sorts of players in from the political arena, and he gets you up to date on the next week's stories.

00:28:52.060 Brian, thank you so much for joining us.

00:28:53.500 Thank you.

00:28:56.020 Once again, that was Brian Lilly.

00:28:58.580 You're going to get shows and stories like this here on Juno News because we help bridge the gap between independent media and the normies over in mainstream media.

00:29:09.440 And Brian is one of those game changers, okay?

00:29:12.000 He can do both.

00:29:13.220 He goes back and forth.

00:29:14.400 And what's really important is that he reads all the headlines, and he reads these stories, and he keeps us up to date on all of this stuff.

00:29:20.720 What do you guys think?

00:29:21.740 What do you think is going to be the big issue going forward in Ottawa?

00:29:26.020 The circus is coming back to town, as they say.

00:29:29.120 The House of Commons is coming back into session next week.

00:29:31.960 What do you think the biggest issues should be?

00:29:35.020 Are you still fighting to afford basics?

00:29:37.580 Are you struggling with the idea of ever owning a home?

00:29:41.080 Are you worried about crime in your neighborhood?

00:29:43.800 Are you worried about the huge size of the government bureaucracy and the fact that there's just government everywhere?

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Juno News - September 10, 2025

Carney sidelines pipelines + Doug Ford tells unemployed youth to “look harder”

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