Juno News - Carney to cave to Liberal left flank？

00:00:00.000 And welcome to Straight Up. I am your host, Mark Petroni.

00:00:07.860 Well, there appear to be some cracks in the support level for Mark Carney's budget,

00:00:13.640 at least cracks in the PM's own caucus. And given their minority government status,

00:00:19.860 the liberals can't really afford a fractured caucus. They'll need every vote they can get

00:00:25.160 from their MPs and then some. The internal opposition to the budget is from members of

00:00:31.400 parliament liberals fixated on the idea that climate change is an existential threat to the

00:00:37.040 planet. In his budget, the Green Agenda has taken a backseat to things like military spending,

00:00:44.500 and liberals like Nathaniel Erskine-Smith don't like it. Erskine-Smith has made his opposition

00:00:50.320 to the budget public. Let's listen. First, stalled climate action. Cutting tree planting,

00:00:56.640 moving away from an emissions gap, winding down greener homes. No new money for climate action.

00:01:02.320 On housing, it falls short of these specific promises in our platform. And it unfortunately

00:01:07.060 falls well short, well short of the wartime effort that many of us thought we'd deliver.

00:01:11.740 The budget adds $140 billion in new spending over five years, $90 billion net after savings,

00:01:17.400 and only 36% of the net new spending is capital. My kids shouldn't pay for today's military or for

00:01:23.500 me to save $400 of income taxes. We see the budget commit to a new inefficient fossil fuel subsidy for

00:01:29.240 LNG facilities. We do not need more public dollars chasing fossil fuels. Worse, we see major cuts.

00:01:35.200 Major cuts of over $2.5 billion over four years to international development assistance.

00:01:39.540 Overall, the budget meets the moment in part. But fairly, it does not live up to its promise of

00:01:45.380 generational investments. Hmm. That's a lot not to like for a government MP. Tomorrow,

00:01:52.520 Prime Minister Carney is set to fast track new nation building projects. Now, according to sources,

00:01:57.960 those projects include mines, LNG, and a hydroelectric venture. So how serious is the green backlash in

00:02:07.140 Carney's own caucus? Well, in a column in the Toronto Sun, Brian Lilly writes,

00:02:12.200 To get his majority, Carney needs to make sure that green believers like Jonathan Wilkinson and Stephen 1.00

00:02:19.220 Gilboa and others don't bolt. Though it does appear he would like to replace both MPs. So far,

00:02:27.060 much of the left-wing media has either ignored or dismissed the story, opting instead for non-stop

00:02:32.880 coverage of the alleged dissension in the Conservative caucus. This post by Toronto Star's Althea Raj,

00:02:40.880 Nate has normalized independent thought. So it isn't news. In my opinion, it would be nice to see this

00:02:48.900 from other MPs. Those outside of cabinet, their job is to hold the government to account. Well,

00:02:55.140 they are the government. More independent thought means better reports, better debate, better policy,

00:03:02.700 better social cohesion as well. Well, I don't think that the Prime Minister would be too thrilled

00:03:08.880 about having more backbenchers attack the government's own budget. Toronto City Hall is preparing to fly the

00:03:15.960 Palestinian flag for the first time in recognition of its Independence Day. The headline is Toronto City

00:03:22.120 Hall to fly a Palestinian flag for the first time on November 17th, recognizing its Independence Day.

00:03:28.900 Well, for some, particularly in the Jewish community, that flag is a symbol of terror,

00:03:34.560 anti-Semitism, and a reminder of the October 7th attacks in which hundreds of innocent people were

00:03:40.460 murdered and others taken hostage. George Ann Burke will no doubt have some thoughts. She'll be joining us

00:03:46.860 shortly. Supporters of Palestine are cheering the move. Our Canadian Prime Minister, Mark Carney, 1.00

00:03:54.600 recognized Palestine as an independent state last September, along with Britain and the UK. But

00:03:59.660 some of our greatest allies, closest allies, including the United States and Israel, do not.

00:04:06.080 And we are now joined by George Ann Burke, who's a communications strategist and political expert.

00:04:12.140 And always great chatting with George Ann. Welcome.

00:04:16.100 Thank you. Nice to see you.

00:04:18.120 Let's start off with the Palestinian flag. Going up in Toronto, this is going to be in a few days' time.

00:04:25.360 I mean, I don't know what Olivia Chow is thinking, but it sure tells us a lot about where her,

00:04:32.520 you know, loyalties lie in terms of that whole matter involving Israel and Palestine. What do you think about that?

00:04:40.860 So I have a number of thoughts about this. First of all, we know where she stands. She's not a pro-Israel

00:04:47.000 person. She's not even a pro-Jewish community person. She has avoided the Jewish community almost

00:04:52.480 the entire time she's been in office. Whenever she showed up, she said ridiculous things and in some 0.98

00:04:58.520 cases even been booed. So maybe she's not feeling so welcome anymore. And then she goes off to the 0.79

00:05:04.400 NC, the National Council Canadian Muslim NCCM event and says the stuff that she said just a couple

00:05:12.000 of weeks ago about Israel and genocide, which didn't endear her to the community. So we know

00:05:16.820 where she is. As far as the flag is concerned, the flag, raising of flags, I'm told, is completely

00:05:23.040 in the ball court of the mayors of the cities. They get to make those decisions. So she could have said

00:05:28.720 no, but she didn't. She said she's not going to the flag raising, but she doesn't go to flag

00:05:35.300 raising generally. So it's no big deal, but she's allowing it to happen. What I don't understand is

00:05:41.000 how they pick this date. They're saying that's the date of Palestinian independence. I wasn't aware

00:05:45.600 they were a country or a state. They're not even really an entity. People don't like to hear me say

00:05:51.440 that too bad, but that's a fact. So I don't know why they're even considered as an entity that should

00:05:58.100 have a flag raised. And what's odd to me is another city, Calgary, is planning to raise the

00:06:04.800 Palestinian flag or has been requested to raise the Palestinian flag. I don't know that it will

00:06:09.300 happen there with their new mayor, but they're doing it on the 30th of November. So what's the

00:06:14.780 real date here? I don't get it. And lastly, I'm going to say this. I think all governments

00:06:21.020 should raise no flags except the Canadian flag, the flag of the province that they're in,

00:06:28.760 if it's appropriate, or the city, if the city has a flag, their city flag. And if there's a visiting

00:06:33.420 dignitary, which is often, you know, the courtesy that you do, you raise the flag of the visiting

00:06:38.680 dignitary when they're there. There shouldn't be flags raised on any other country's national day.

00:06:44.160 And that includes, by the way, yes, indeed, friends, Israel. Don't do it. It's a bad idea.

00:06:48.880 It just creates division. It creates controversy for no particular reason.

00:06:55.180 Yeah. I mean, there's no placating a particular group.

00:06:58.340 That's right.

00:06:59.180 The more you give them, the more they want. You know, they wage their protest. They block off

00:07:05.640 the Jewish neighborhoods. You know, you saw this Palestinian flag everywhere.

00:07:10.940 And what were they chanting? You know, death to Canada. You know, these people hate the country 0.96

00:07:16.820 that has embraced them and taken them in. And so the idea that we somehow have to placate them or

00:07:24.220 please them, or I don't see that at all. And this is, of course, a symbol. This flag is a symbol to

00:07:31.900 people, particularly in the Jewish community, as you well know, of hatred, of anti-Semitism,

00:07:38.500 of terror, including what happened on October the 7th. So the idea that this should be done now,

00:07:44.500 that Olivia Chow and members of staff thought that this was a great idea. I mean, to me, wow,

00:07:51.640 you have to be seriously tone deaf. And it's a major thumb in the eye to the Jewish community in 1.00

00:07:56.600 Toronto. Last word to you on that subject.

00:07:58.380 Yeah, I'll just say that her former chief of staff, or maybe still her chief of staff,

00:08:02.240 was the head of an organization, Progress Toronto. And we know where they are at.

00:08:07.900 Her office is rife with people who are anti-Semites and anti-Israel. And the two go hand in hand 0.75

00:08:15.260 in most cases, not in every case. There are people who have some genuine things that they could say

00:08:21.460 about Israel that might be reasonable to listen to. And they don't have to be anti-Semites to do it.

00:08:27.060 But unfortunately, in 98% of the cases, those two go hand in hand. And she's got an office full of

00:08:32.400 people like that. So I expect nothing different from her. The only thing I can hope is that

00:08:36.020 Torontonians will wake up and turf her out in the next election next year and replace her with someone 1.00

00:08:42.900 who's more reasonable. And also more intelligent, by the way.

00:08:46.800 Well, I guess John Tory wants to run. Apparently, the word is.

00:08:51.380 Well, there's that. And of course, Brad Bradford has said he's in. I don't know how it's going to end up.

00:08:56.360 I'll watch with interest from Florida.

00:09:00.620 As will I.

00:09:01.780 Yeah. I don't get to vote in Toronto anyway. I mean, I haven't been living...

00:09:05.140 I never actually lived in Toronto. I always lived in Vaughan, the city above Toronto.

00:09:10.020 And I've been in Ottawa and voting here for the last 19 years. So if I continue to vote

00:09:15.660 from Florida in Canadian elections, which is my intention to do, I assume that I will vote

00:09:22.900 out of this riding that I'm living in now. The left of center, Ottawa center.

00:09:28.480 So let's talk about Nathaniel Erskine Smith. Speaking of left of center, I mean, here's a guy

00:09:36.360 speaking out. Now, there are some that are suggesting that it's emblematic of maybe cracks

00:09:42.080 in the Mark Carney caucus. Others suggesting there are others, you know, that may be feeling quite like

00:09:51.480 this has been a betrayal. This budget was a betrayal by Mark Carney in terms of

00:09:58.480 ongoing commitments towards climate related initiatives and projects. You know, how serious

00:10:04.680 do you take this? I mean, I don't believe for a minute that Erskine Smith is going to vote against

00:10:08.920 the budget. What do you think? I would be surprised if he voted against the budget because of all of the

00:10:14.920 backtracking he did in the video that he put out. Well, it's the good, the bad and the ugly. Well,

00:10:19.680 it's not really that horrible, but I'm just pointing out the flaws is kind of what it came down to.

00:10:24.800 Obviously, he's big on the climate stuff and definitely there are things that he wanted to

00:10:31.440 see in there that weren't in there. That doesn't mean by the way that they won't happen. It's just

00:10:35.260 that they're not in the budget. They can be done in other ways and they can divert money in other ways

00:10:41.060 to get their stuff done. I don't trust them for one second on this. That being said, I found it,

00:10:47.240 I always find it amusing when someone on the left talks about investment. Clearly, they don't understand

00:10:51.940 what investment is if they think governments invest in anything. Governments simply spend

00:10:57.300 money that doesn't belong to them, that comes from us, the taxpayers, on projects that they have

00:11:02.600 decided that they want to do, whether we like it or not. That's unfortunately how it seems to work.

00:11:06.820 And the only way to change that is to change the government, which clearly the Canadian voter was

00:11:12.300 not in the mood to do the last time. It wasn't that far. The results were not that far apart.

00:11:18.580 You had a conservative party that got 41% of the vote and the liberals got 43% of the vote. So

00:11:25.360 not a huge difference, which tells me that it's a divided country. That being said, when you win

00:11:33.500 a government here in Canada, you win everything. You are the legislature, you are the executive,

00:11:38.520 and you control the judicial. So everybody needs to know when they vote, it's not like the United

00:11:43.720 States. You vote for the president separately, and you get the vice president with them. But then

00:11:47.740 you vote for Congress, two houses, they're separate, and the judiciary is completely separate.

00:11:53.560 In some states, you vote for judges. The Supreme Court gets selected through nomination,

00:11:59.640 advise and consent, and the Senate has to approve them, or they don't get in. It's a completely

00:12:05.680 different system. And I think most Canadians are so uneducated, they think they're living in the United 0.96

00:12:09.480 States as much as they hate it, but their government is not the U.S. government. So

00:12:13.940 when you elect a Canadian government, you elect people who basically control your life for the

00:12:18.920 entire term of their government. This guy here is trying to engineer a majority, which of course he

00:12:29.060 tried to do last week with Chris Dantremont, and maybe he thought he was going to do it with Matt

00:12:33.820 Jenneru. I don't know what was all behind that, other than that I heard that Matt really wants to

00:12:40.460 be home with his family. And he's a young family, and he's been away for 10 years, and maybe he's had

00:12:46.100 enough. Maybe if we would have won government, that would have made a difference, but we didn't. So

00:12:51.320 I don't know. I'm just, I didn't speak to him. I don't know. All I can say is that I know that the

00:12:57.900 liberals would love to grab another one or two people from somewhere, whether they don't care where they 0.97

00:13:02.720 come from, NDP, conservatives, whoever, you know, but I don't, I don't know that they're going to be

00:13:10.380 able to pull that off, but they, they govern as if they have a majority, which I think is pretty

00:13:15.640 interesting. That's something that Trudeau did the entire time after his first majority disappeared

00:13:21.100 and became a minority. He governed like he had a majority because he kind of did. The NDP played

00:13:27.420 along with him. All this guy's got to have is a couple of votes from the NDP, and he's got a majority.

00:13:31.480 Even if they don't cross the floor.

00:13:34.880 Trudeau had a de facto majority, I guess, with Jagmeet Singh.

00:13:38.640 That's right.

00:13:39.380 But if you read this column in the Toronto Sun by Brian Lilly, he mentions that there are people

00:13:46.440 like Jonathan Wilkinson and Stephen Gilbo, and that the PM has to be careful to make sure they're

00:13:53.860 happy, that they don't bolt. And then he goes on to say, though it does appear he'd like to

00:13:59.220 replace them both. I mean, if you take this at face value and believe it suggests that

00:14:05.160 maybe, you know, he's not the greenie that we all were led to believe based on his book

00:14:11.320 and based on his past statements, that somehow he's trying to change things, change the culture

00:14:16.700 or change the dynamic in his own caucus. So he doesn't have these radical environmentalists,

00:14:22.480 you know, pulling as much weight as they have in the past.

00:14:26.340 So I don't put Jonathan Wilkinson in the same class as Stephen Gilbo. I'll say that. First of

00:14:32.300 all, Jonathan Wilkinson is certainly more measured in the way he approaches the issues around the

00:14:40.400 environment. He's an environmentalist, no question about it, but not the same. Stephen Gilbo is a radical

00:14:45.260 environmentalist. He is. And he's been a problem. He was removed from that file for a reason.

00:14:50.380 I don't think I think that the theory and I would say Tom Pitfield is a guy that's doing a lot of

00:14:57.280 this behind the scenes. He's the chief of staff to the prime minister and a very smart politician,

00:15:02.160 by the way. Tom Pitfield and that crew recognize that you have to have the appearance. They looked

00:15:10.460 at the vote. That's what I'm saying to you. The vote was not that far apart, right? You have to look

00:15:15.100 at it and say, can we really take the chance of going as far left on the environment and other

00:15:22.660 things as we'd like to? And the answer is, no, they probably can't. So I think they're making

00:15:27.280 a judgment that they need to be sure that the people that are running the show appear to be

00:15:35.160 more rational and that the budget that they put out appears to be less radical. But I am going to

00:15:41.740 tell you, I do not believe for one second, and I think I'll be proven correct, that this guy is just

00:15:49.100 as much a radical environmentalist as he's always been. The only thing that matters more to him than

00:15:54.900 that is money, personal money, not money for us, but making money for his friends. I think there's going

00:16:04.480 to be a lot of discussion of Brookfield and how it benefits from this budget and others of his friends

00:16:12.400 and how they benefit from this budget. I think it's going to be very interesting to see. I know that

00:16:15.880 there's going to be long, hard looks at that, certainly within the Conservative Party. They're not fools 0.51

00:16:21.540 on this stuff. They understand what's behind it. So the question would be, what's his first priority? Is it

00:16:27.960 money personally and for his buddies, or is it the environment? I would say probably money for his

00:16:33.880 buddies and then the environment. Yeah. I mean, you can make the case that a lot of this is posturing.

00:16:39.960 You know, he wants to be seen as a moderate, you know, so he puts the stuff out and says, well, yeah,

00:16:46.200 those radicals in caucus, you know, they've been kind of put in their place a little bit because I'm

00:16:51.520 more of a moderate, you know, and the first tomorrow, you know, they're going to be announcing

00:16:56.360 projects that are supposed to be fast track, you know, in the field of mining and LNG and

00:17:02.140 hydroelectric ventures as well. So I think he's trying to position himself in such a way as to

00:17:09.680 show Canadians that he's not as radical as some of the people in his caucus. So he's going to keep

00:17:15.600 those people under, you know, on a tight leash, but I'm with you. I don't, I don't believe it. I

00:17:21.200 don't think his stripes have changed at all. And when you look at, all you have to do is look at this

00:17:25.560 budget, you know, which wraps up the spending to the point where we have a, you know, a $78 billion

00:17:31.260 deficit or whatever it is, you know, I mean, if he was a moderate, he would not be blowing the bank the

00:17:37.160 way he has been. And there would be much deeper cuts to spending that we have seen. So a lot of this

00:17:43.260 is smoke and mirrors, as far as I can tell. I would agree with you. I think it is smoke

00:17:49.080 and mirrors. And it's what I actually said to you, I think before the budget came out,

00:17:52.780 that it was going to be smoke and mirrors. I don't think anything happened that just proves that for

00:17:57.440 me. He is, he's trying to utilize the fact that he was the governor of the Bank of Canada,

00:18:04.640 the governor of the Bank of England, and he's this whiz kid in finance, and that people should

00:18:09.500 just believe that he's going to be fiscally responsible. I don't want to break the news,

00:18:13.900 but I think Theresa May pretty well summarized the feelings of the British people towards Mark

00:18:19.680 Carney's performance as governor of the Bank of England. And his tales about...

00:18:27.260 Did you mean Liz Truss when you...

00:18:29.240 Oh, sorry. I meant Liz Truss. Sorry. Yes. I don't know. What was I thinking? And then,

00:18:34.100 and then, of course, there's the made up stories that he has about his relationship with Stephen

00:18:38.340 Harper, which is completely untrue about how much Harper loved him and wanted him to be the finance

00:18:45.160 minister. He's dreaming in technicolor that never, ever, ever happened. That's a complete made up story.

00:18:51.940 So, so you have somebody who has put himself out there as a financial whiz kid, and he fooled the

00:18:57.600 Canadian people. But a financial whiz kid would not say, we're going to have a $62 billion deficit,

00:19:03.560 which was $20 billion more than the previous deficit, which was outrageous, and ended up at

00:19:09.320 $79 billion and just kind of blew it off. Like, oh, well, you know, that's how it is. You know,

00:19:17.740 no real explanation for it. But the funniest story of the week, actually, was the one that came out

00:19:23.320 yesterday that says that they're looking at having military come from the 300,000 government employees

00:19:32.440 that are bureaucrats. That was, I actually thought, I sent it to my friend who works for the government,

00:19:39.040 and I said, you, maybe you'll be going back to your days in the military, because he was a naval

00:19:44.900 guy, Navy guy. He was in the Navy for 15 years. So maybe go back to your days as a military guy,

00:19:49.960 I said, but I actually thought that this was a story from the Babylon Bee. I didn't think it was real.

00:19:55.240 But apparently, they're actually thinking that this is something that they should do. It's like,

00:19:59.440 are you nuts? Like, these people are crazy. They really are. Yeah, I mean, so that would be like 1.00

00:20:04.980 a fake military. You're gonna say, oh, yeah, we got 300,000 people in our military. No, you don't.

00:20:10.760 What are you talking about? So, yeah, this is what they're about. It's all about appearances. It's

00:20:17.240 all about smoke and mirrors. The Canadian people should, I know there is some buyer's remorse out 0.95

00:20:23.500 there. That I heard from my friends who supported him in the last election. And I'm kind of glad to

00:20:30.380 hear that they're feeling bad about what they did, but are they feeling bad enough that they would

00:20:34.880 vote conservative? I can tell you that the media and all of their chums directed by the Liberal Party

00:20:43.100 are doing a great job trying to tear Pierre down. They're trying everything they can to make him look

00:20:48.460 weak and to make him look like there's chaos in his caucus. In fact, there is not. Okay, there isn't.

00:20:54.540 There are always whiners in the conservative caucus. Always. There are always whiners in our

00:21:00.880 party. And it's the same people, by the way, for the last 20 years that have been whining about the

00:21:05.880 same things. So I tend to go, yeah, whatever. Okay. If you've got something concrete, go ahead and fix it

00:21:13.400 and do it, but stop complaining. Don't do the Canadian thing and whine. Do the American thing

00:21:18.560 and get beep done. You know, just do stuff. Don't sit around and complain. But that's what they do.

00:21:26.000 And, you know, you probably had somebody who said something to some media person somewhere, so they

00:21:30.100 now can blow this up into a big storm of some kind or another. And in fact, it's just not the case.

00:21:37.420 I talk to members of parliament fairly often, very, I would say, openly. And if they actually

00:21:46.960 felt that there was a big problem, they would tell me. They would say, man, we're in trouble.

00:21:51.440 I haven't heard that not once. I've heard people say, look, there are problems. There are things

00:21:55.840 we got to deal with, but nothing that's like we want Pierre gone. I've never heard that from not a

00:22:00.580 single other member of a caucus. You know, Chris was no surprise to me. He was, I always said to

00:22:05.740 people, he's not a conservative anyway. I just insulted Tim Powers this morning by telling him

00:22:10.400 he was a conservative in name only. So I think I've created a new enemy. But that's a fact. These

00:22:17.480 guys are not real conservatives. They constantly cave into the liberals. They share a lot of their

00:22:25.000 views. And that's, I mean, I'm not saying you can't maybe agree with them on some things, but some

00:22:31.280 of the basic things, the important things that differentiate conservatives from liberals,

00:22:36.600 conservatives from the NDP, we should be different on those. And our spokespeople and our members of

00:22:42.840 parliament who are elected should reflect those things, not the opposite way.

00:22:48.280 Yeah, there are definitely some conservatives, or they call themselves that, who have liberal envy.

00:22:53.640 You know, they envy the liberal's relationship with the media, and the fact that they have so many

00:23:00.900 outspoken left-wing groups that champion them. You know, they're like, they see them as the cool kids,

00:23:08.440 you know, that they couldn't be part of. So I think they have kind of a secret envy.

00:23:12.820 You know, it's sad, because it would be better if they just joined the liberals, you know?

00:23:18.460 Yeah, just go and feed your need to be accepted by these people. You'll find out very quickly that

00:23:29.080 they're not better or worse than any other politicians. They're the same, because politicians

00:23:35.680 are pretty much all the same. And in some ways, you know, they have this tendency to cannibalize their

00:23:41.560 own. The liberals just are more nuanced about it, I would say.

00:23:46.240 How is Pierre dealing with it? Sorry to interrupt, but, you know, here he's at the center of it.

00:23:53.640 Constant attacks, this jihad by the media, you try and oust him. I mean, I would think that the

00:24:00.440 reason the media hates him so much is that he doesn't favor the ongoing subsidization of the media,

00:24:06.600 subsidizing of media. You know, he's for defunding the CBC.

00:24:11.320 Yeah, they just got another $150 million, so they're pretty happy with the liberals.

00:24:15.640 Yeah, exactly. So how does he deal with it in your view? I mean, as a communications strategist,

00:24:22.440 how would you advise him to handle it?

00:24:24.280 So I think that he cannot fall into the trap of making excuses and saying, oh, that's not fair,

00:24:31.240 and that's not true. And he let his caucus go out and do what they do best. So there was a lovely

00:24:37.800 picture the other day in social media of my very dear friend and one of my favorite people, Costas

00:24:42.920 Menegakis, simply standing with Pierre in a picture, his arm over his shoulder, saying,

00:24:48.920 here I am with the leader of my party. I'm so proud to be a member of this party.

00:24:53.400 Okay. There are lots of those kinds of things happening. Nobody is rejecting having a picture

00:24:59.320 taken with Pierre Polyev. Okay. That's just not happening. And they're supporting him. And that's

00:25:04.520 what he should be doing. He needs to pay attention to the issues. He needs to pay attention to his

00:25:09.800 membership of his party, the people that are being elected delegates, because he's got a convention

00:25:14.840 coming up in another two months. And he wants to make sure he survives a leadership review, which I

00:25:21.320 think he will. But he's reaching out to, which he's, by the way, always done. He was, Stephen Harper,

00:25:31.000 don't get mad at me, but Stephen Harper wasn't particularly good at that. Pierre has always been

00:25:36.360 good. Pierre is doing breakfast with members of his caucus at Stornoway, like small groups, like

00:25:43.400 bringing in six or eight of them at a time and just sitting down for a couple of hours

00:25:47.320 and letting them talk about the things that concern them. That sounds like a guy that's running a frat

00:25:52.600 house, doesn't it? That sounds like a guy that's, you know, doesn't care about the people in his

00:25:59.240 caucus. It's running it like a dictator. He actually is trying to do the right thing with his members.

00:26:07.000 Also, I know he's reached out and continues to reach out to riding presidents, to members of the

00:26:14.200 riding association boards, and he always responds to people who reach out to him to ask him questions

00:26:21.400 or whatever. He makes himself very accessible at every event I've ever been. He stands in line

00:26:26.600 for two hours, if necessary, taking pictures with every single person that's there and giving them a

00:26:31.640 moment or two of his time to talk. I've watched him do it and he's absolutely committed to keeping

00:26:39.560 those relationships up. It's a very hard thing to do. It's very hard work to do to stay, you know,

00:26:47.640 that focused on people and also do your job, but he does it. He's got tremendous energy. He's a very

00:26:52.920 hardworking guy. The people of Carlton should be ashamed of themselves that they replaced him with that

00:26:58.360 moron, Fanjoy, I call him Fanboy, who is just awful. And they lost themselves, a great MP who's devoted 0.99

00:27:08.920 almost 20 years of his life in that riding. Every day, every Friday, I was told by people that live

00:27:15.640 there, every Friday, they knew he showed up somewhere in the riding. He would pick a pole and go work the

00:27:21.400 pole. Election or not election, he was there on Fridays because those were constituency days. He'd go out

00:27:27.160 for a few hours, go door knocking and just say, hi, I'm here. I'm not asking for nothing. I just

00:27:32.920 want to know how am I doing? How's the government doing? How's the party doing? Are you happy? What

00:27:37.880 are your issues? And people even that didn't like him that are not supporters said that they were

00:27:43.240 amazed when he would do that. He came to the door. He didn't, you know, cherry pick the list and say,

00:27:48.120 I'm only going to go to conservatives. He went to everybody. Whoever was home, he talked to.

00:27:52.200 And the word spread like wildfire that he was there. He knew he had, they had a hardworking guy.

00:27:57.320 Well, apparently they decided that fan boy who was out for a couple of years, like working the doors

00:28:04.440 too. He just happened to be there at the right time at the time when civil servants, which are a large

00:28:09.960 part of that constituency decided to turn against the conservatives. They will regret it. I assure you,

00:28:15.880 you will regret it. On that happy note, I will thank you for

00:28:23.000 I'm just a ray of sunshine. What can I tell you?

00:28:27.080 Yeah, but you hit hard and we appreciate it. Thank you, Georgianne.

00:28:30.040 My pleasure. Great to see you, Mark.

00:28:31.640 Georgianne Burke, Pathway Group. And that is it for this edition of Straight Up. Appreciate

00:28:36.280 you tuning in, my friends. Let's do it again soon. Bye-bye for now.

Juno News - November 12, 2025

Carney to cave to Liberal left flank？

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