Juno News - Carney’s credibility CRUMBLES as Canadians lose faith

00:00:00.000 and welcome to straight up with mark patrone i am your host appreciate you tuning in my friends

00:00:10.260 well some upbeat news in canada for change when it comes to jobs though it could spell bad news

00:00:16.460 for those hoping for another interest rate cut next month canada is posting a surprise job gain

00:00:22.940 for october bolstering the case for a bank of canada rate pause next month that from the globe

00:00:29.360 and mail the economy created 67 000 new jobs and the unemployment rate fell to about 6.9 but the

00:00:39.140 headline numbers don't tell the whole story almost all of the new positions were part-time jobs many

00:00:44.920 of them in the retail sector which added 41 000 positions however manufacturing also posted a

00:00:52.300 surprise gain of 8 700 while construction lost 15 000 well a new poll by nanos paints a grim picture of

00:01:02.080 canadians struggling to put food on the table over the last year one in five canadians skipped paying

00:01:08.600 a bill so they could buy groceries that's right and canadians under 55 are much more likely to put off

00:01:17.020 paying a bill in order to be able to afford food they are four times more likely to do so compared

00:01:23.760 with people over age 55 stephen madrew is our guest today he'll be joining us shortly with his take on

00:01:31.160 those numbers now on the matter of affordability most canadians are giving the carny government

00:01:36.760 a failing grade according to leger 72 percent are disappointed with the progress the government

00:01:43.640 has made dealing with that critical issue of affordability another 64 percent say the government

00:01:49.980 has failed to get its own spending under control we certainly saw that in the budget this week the

00:01:57.360 carny government budget racked up 78 billion dollars in new deficit spending another conservative mp

00:02:05.380 jumps ship but matt jenneru isn't joining the liberals he said he wasn't coerced into leaving and remains a

00:02:12.560 supporter of leader pierre polyev he'll stay in caucus until next year and plans to vote with his

00:02:18.660 party against the carny budget conservative party leader pierre polyev posted this thank you matt jenneru

00:02:24.860 for your decade of service to the people of edmonton riverbend on behalf of our conservative team i wish you

00:02:31.460 and your family all the best following your decision to step down as member of parliament next spring

00:02:37.180 earlier this week nova scotia mp chris d'antrema a conservative crossed the floor to join the

00:02:44.060 liberals well at the cop 30 summit in brazil this year un chief antonio guterrez demanding 1.3 trillion

00:02:53.340 dollars globally to fund its climate agenda and for debt relief for developing nations trade and

00:03:01.500 investment policies must support climate ambition not undermine it developed countries must take

00:03:09.900 the lead in mobilizing 300 billion dollars annually delivering affordable predictable finance at the

00:03:16.220 agreed scale and all providers must show they will contribute to meeting the 300 billion and 1.3

00:03:23.420 trillion milestones as you heard there he wants western nations like canada to cough up 300 billion

00:03:31.100 dollars a year to deal with the climate finally he's a 100 year old war veteran and sadly kind of

00:03:39.020 wonders if it was all worth it alec penstone fought fought for britain in the second world war in which

00:03:45.180 he lost many friends and looking at the state of his country he now wonders if it was all worth it

00:03:53.020 what does remembrance sunday mean for you what is your message my message is i can see in my mind's eye

00:04:02.940 there was rows and rows of white stones of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else that gave

00:04:10.460 their lives for what a country of today no i'm sorry the sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it

00:04:22.220 is now oh well i'm sorry what do you what do you what do you mean by that though at this point

00:04:29.340 what we fought for and what we fought for was our freedom we father even now it's

00:04:37.580 downside worse than what it was when i fought for it sad but he's probably not alone we are now joined by

00:04:46.060 stephen le drew past president of the liberal party of canada he's a former lawyer and a resident of

00:04:51.740 buckhorn ontario welcome once again stephen good to be on your show good to chat with you mark

00:04:59.420 i know we're having a bit of uh phone issues here but we're going to try to get through this

00:05:04.300 if you can hear me all right uh stephen i know you had some thoughts about that party that the liberals

00:05:09.180 threw themselves yesterday after tabling a budget that uh included a 78 billion dollar debt deficit

00:05:16.780 rather right i wish we had a 78 billion dollar debt i mean it's yeah more like one and a third

00:05:22.380 trillion anyway uh do you want to expand on your feelings about that was was that an opportune time

00:05:28.380 is that a you know good optics on the part of the liberals i think it was probably one of the most

00:05:35.180 boneheaded errors any politician could commit and to say that it's not only the prime minister

00:05:44.060 but there are officials from the prime minister's office there the minister of finance was there

00:05:48.620 aptly named mr champagne and there means it was a fancy french restaurant in ottawa and to compound it

00:05:57.260 to make it even more egregious mark it was paid for by lobbyists

00:06:04.460 it was paid for by ernst cliff lobbyists and these guys make their living selling influence and so then

00:06:12.460 they had the prime minister there so it is the biggest cock up you could ever have if somebody

00:06:19.340 if a conservative partisan wanted to say what can we do to really make this look bad for the liberals

00:06:27.260 they couldn't come up with anything better than what the liberals did for themselves

00:06:31.740 and it's also interesting mark that the the legacy news has not reported it juno news has reported it

00:06:39.980 we've seen the pictures i know you've talked about it before but you won't find it in the legacy news

00:06:44.860 you know why because the legacy news is paid by the prime yeah the legacy media didn't did

00:06:52.140 they're paid by the prime well yeah i do know why and they're paid not to embarrass the prime minister

00:06:57.980 and so they didn't print this anywhere i mean we have a real democracy deficit in this country where

00:07:04.380 people are not learning the truth not learning how they they read about the budget they know wow this is

00:07:10.540 this is a terrible thing it's not what carney promised he promised jobs he promised projects

00:07:17.420 we have so much potential in this country that's held up by the government of bureaucrats he was going

00:07:22.460 to blast through that all here he is what is it seven months now mark eight months and uh and things

00:07:29.340 are just getting worse and worse and bigger debt and to compound that they are they are just making

00:07:37.260 terrible things to do with their political cap their political capital a new government should

00:07:42.220 have loved political capital one they promise over promised and undelivered and two they go around

00:07:49.420 you know serving themselves champagne at the expense of lobbyists i mean this is unbelievable

00:07:56.140 yeah you make a great point about the fact that this was paid for by lobbyists i mean i think it runs

00:08:01.340 pretty close to an ethics issue because they're accepting a gift really aren't they i mean from

00:08:07.260 people who stand to gain from the government they're one that should be looked at in my view

00:08:14.300 i think you're right which is why you and i are talking about it because we won't get anything out

00:08:18.140 of the legacy media you know they're hiding it but not only did the prime minister and the minister of

00:08:25.180 finance and other officials accept a gift but they gave a gift to the lobbyists the lobbyists are very

00:08:32.620 smart and they had camera people there so they have pictures of themselves with this new government

00:08:39.420 these lobbyists with the new government the new prime minister that is gold to these lobbyists because

00:08:44.940 if lobbyists can't sell influence they don't make any money so they're going to have these pictures

00:08:49.900 they're going to send them to their corporate clients or people they want as their corporate clients

00:08:55.340 and say look at me look at me sure here i am with the prime minister of canada yeah my party yeah

00:09:01.980 it's unbelievable everybody wants uh sure everybody wants a selfie with the prime minister

00:09:07.740 if you're trying to cater to clients who want access to government i mean it's uh it's shameless

00:09:14.540 but uh there you go there you have it of course the media just jumps right in so of course they're not

00:09:19.980 going to cover it because they were there having a good time along with the politicians and the

00:09:24.540 lobbyists i mean i'm embarrassed for them i've worked in the media for you for decades and that

00:09:31.900 is way too close for comfort they should be ashamed of themselves um i mean sometimes you see that over

00:09:37.980 christmas sometimes you know you have a drink with a politician it's not that big a deal but this

00:09:44.060 after a budget in which just two weeks ago the prime minister was calling on canadians to

00:09:49.580 make sacrifices especially those younger canadians speaking of which i want to run this past you

00:09:55.660 because a new poll is out now which says that one in five canadians skipped paying a bill so that they

00:10:03.260 could buy groceries now you think about this and you consider as well the two million people not all

00:10:09.660 canadians but two million people in canada that have to line up at food banks in order to get enough

00:10:16.220 food to feed themselves but canadians under 55 are much more likely to put off paying a bill in order

00:10:23.820 to afford food that's really uh an eye-opening statistic isn't it uh stephen well i think it's

00:10:32.940 it's just so sad that in a country that used to be able to make things that used to be able to work

00:10:39.340 that used to be able to sell its resources and sell it creativity if people worked hard and their

00:10:44.060 jobs to work hard at and they got paid well we have gone from a have country to almost a have not

00:10:53.260 country it's shameful that people can't pay for groceries that they can't get jobs in this country

00:10:58.300 or as as the last leader a liberal leader said to the chancellor of germany to the prime minister of

00:11:06.540 japan when they came over and said please sell us your lng because we need that energy and trudeau said

00:11:12.940 oh there's no business case for that and we lost thousands and thousands of jobs australia said yes

00:11:20.300 japan you can buy our lng and they that and that i think that was three years ago they made over three

00:11:27.420 billion b billion dollars for the citizens of australia where our arrogant prime minister said oh

00:11:34.380 i don't want that and here we are the same thing we we aren't having any new lng plants

00:11:39.980 maybe they have some plans for one we don't know that yet but even if they do have plans they

00:11:45.980 meaning the private sector it's going to take ages to get through the bureaucracy that the liberals have

00:11:51.500 made in ottawa so it's it's a it's a it's a double travesty i would say for people i see people in the

00:12:00.300 neighborhood who will pick up a chicken at the grocery store and they will look at it and they'll look at

00:12:06.300 it carefully and we have great grocery stores but you can't and you know what they're doing they're

00:12:11.500 weighing it not weighing it you know the size of the chicken they're saying can i afford this and

00:12:18.460 and in a country like canada that is so poorly governed that has been let down the path by trudeau

00:12:26.220 and now by this government well and i understand that you understand that mark this government's the

00:12:31.500 same cabinet minister but for the prime minister that we had with trudeau champagne was in the

00:12:36.700 trudeau government anita anand was in the trudeau government our justice minister who said well you

00:12:43.660 know what child pornography if the united if the supreme court wants to say that they can knock down

00:12:49.740 that law so be it we aren't going to do anything about that i mean we have these same dunderheads

00:12:56.940 being so arrogant and so silly in ottawa that it makes you hang your head not only because on one

00:13:03.500 hand they're urging people to sacrifice i mean they're urging canadians to make sacrifices while

00:13:07.980 they themselves are going having a party after tabling this budget just the optics of this are are

00:13:13.980 ridiculous but i guess they think they can get away with it because the media is joining them

00:13:18.140 at the party and drinking and you know having a grand old time with them so who's going to cover

00:13:24.540 it except for juno news and maybe a handful of others i got to ask you on the matter of affordability

00:13:30.860 as long as we're on the topic uh steven i mean canadians most canadians are giving the

00:13:35.500 carney government a failing grade according to leger 72 are disappointed with the progress the

00:13:41.500 government has made dealing with affordability and what what baffles me is that most of the

00:13:48.060 these people still think that the carney government is doing an okay job generally speaking

00:13:54.140 i mean i find that flabbergasting i mean unless they get all their news watching cvc i don't see

00:14:00.940 how anybody can say they're doing a terrible job with affordability on one hand but i still support

00:14:06.620 them on the other does that make sense to you it makes no sense but you're putting your finger

00:14:11.740 on a political problem that the conservatives have because people are acknowledging that this

00:14:18.140 government's not doing a good job and if they could see the truth such as a champagne party paid

00:14:24.060 for by lobbyists they would be even more angry or upset with the government but they are still

00:14:29.340 supporting the government first of all because carney compared to trudeau carney is a serious person

00:14:36.140 he's a mature person he starts his meetings on time he speaks well trudeau was a goof so compared to

00:14:44.060 that they like carney and the problem the conservatives have is that mr polyev is still stuck with that

00:14:51.980 attack dog image that he's had for the last 10 years and and to be i'll be very candid with you mark

00:14:59.900 when you talk to particularly women in toronto in the gta and you say okay well what about polyev

00:15:07.100 giving him a chance oh i don't like him okay why don't you like him is there some policy that you

00:15:12.780 don't like is it some uh rules that he wants to put in place they don't like no no i just don't like

00:15:19.260 them and and that's a that is a political problem because in this country we elected trudeau three times

00:15:27.500 the canadians did even though you know the tories had more votes in one of the elections but

00:15:33.420 people like trudeau he's a smiling guy he had nice hair women like them and so it's coming down to that

00:15:40.460 don't don't worry about the policy whether we like you or not and uh well look that's the problem if you

00:15:47.420 can elect somebody because they have a nice head of hair then i guess you can unelect somebody or not

00:15:54.060 vote for somebody based on superficial things you don't like his mannerisms or maybe his the cut of

00:16:01.100 his suits i mean you know people base their votes on things that frankly i don't care about i mean what

00:16:08.860 are their policies surely these things have to matter more than whether you like the person or not i think

00:16:15.900 likability frankly is grotesquely overrated you know people say well is this somebody that you could have

00:16:21.900 a beer with well i don't care i mean if i want to if i need somebody to perform surgery on my kid you

00:16:31.020 know do i care whether that person has a nice head haircut or do i care whether he dresses well or or or

00:16:40.140 she looks okay i mean i don't care about those things i care about whether or not they can perform

00:16:45.420 surgery on somebody that i love you know or anybody else for that matter you know those are the things

00:16:51.180 that matter yet somehow when it comes to politicians we're supposed to throw all the important stuff out

00:16:56.460 the window and focus on how somebody looks or how they act you know it's ridiculous well it is but i

00:17:03.500 think frankly depresses me i think i think that don't be depressed for long i don't i think that's coming

00:17:10.220 to an end i think that's coming to an end though seriously because people realize how trudeau mucked

00:17:17.340 up this country for so many things you and i can speak for the next five hours of things that allowed

00:17:22.860 in this country that should not have been allowed and are still going on and there's travesties of

00:17:27.500 justice and economic travesties too and so people are going to start realizing soon you know what we

00:17:34.380 actually we the voters we may we should smarten up maybe we're going to have to get more serious

00:17:40.460 about this business of voting and look at the policies and look at who's competent and look who

00:17:46.060 can make a better country the last election people voted for carney because they said oh carney is out

00:17:52.300 there saying elbows up and i can beat trump and i can get the economy going and they said businessman

00:17:57.580 economist all this kind of stuff we're going to vote for him now here we are seven months later squat

00:18:02.940 he's done diddly squat and he's throwing it in the face of canadians by having these parties

00:18:08.540 champagne parties paid for by lobbyists i mean it's uh it's disgraceful and so i think hopefully

00:18:15.260 if people start to realize what's going on they're going to have to read something aside from the toronto

00:18:20.140 star to find out what's going on follow your show on juno uh follow my show the truth three minutes

00:18:28.300 and they're going to start realizing what's going on in this country uh then they're going to get

00:18:33.100 serious i think we're going to get changes and as i said there's a the tories have a problem they're

00:18:37.980 going to have to get somebody aside from their leader aside from the person who's going to be

00:18:44.220 prime minister of this country to be the attack dog because people don't want a prime minister who

00:18:50.940 goes around kicking people in the shins and making verbal victories they want a prime minister to be prime

00:18:56.060 ministerial and so polyev has to get a lieutenant in there who is going to do the dirty work the

00:19:04.700 necessary work to point out the the corruption to point out these parties put on by the lobbyists do

00:19:11.900 all that kind of stuff while polyev can be above it all and he can say elect me i will have a serious

00:19:19.100 government i will have an honest government i will have a government that deals with the economy and

00:19:24.700 your jobs your education and your health care well he just happens to be a very good leader of the

00:19:29.980 opposition because so the idea that somehow you know people don't like the fact that he opposes the

00:19:36.700 government like chris donterma just said well you know we should work with the government no that's not

00:19:41.980 the job of the opposition the opposition literally is to oppose so the idea that in order to be liked by

00:19:48.780 some people in canada you have to throw in and jump on the you know uh mark carney bandwagon you know

00:19:57.500 that i don't buy that at all i need the opposition to to hold the government to account that's their job

00:20:03.580 yes i agree with you on that but but mark that has to be done by somebody else aside from the person

00:20:10.140 who wants okay i see what you're saying no i understand so let somebody else be the attack dog is

00:20:14.620 what you're saying i understand i mean we saw an inkling of that when it came towards and as i

00:20:19.740 mentioned chris donterma the former conservative the current turncoat you know joining the liberals

00:20:25.660 and wasn't pierre palia who came out it said you know this guy should be accountable to his

00:20:30.540 constituents i would have accepted that if he had but he let other people you know he let michael cooper

00:20:36.860 talk he let other people sort of make that case he did not comment to my knowledge on chris d'entremont's

00:20:45.260 uh you know decision to to cross the floor so maybe maybe that's part of what you're talking about

00:20:53.020 you know let other people be the bad the bad cop and and hammer the government every chance they get

00:20:59.740 while he sort of maybe backs up a little bit is that would that be your strategy in terms of if you

00:21:05.580 were advising pierre paulia absolutely he's a he's a smart man he is an informed man he is to my

00:21:14.140 knowledge an honorable man he's got to show canadians that he is somebody aside from the guy to reach

00:21:21.900 across the uh the aisle in the house of commons and kick the hell out of the uh the liberals let

00:21:28.540 somebody else do that he should stand up and say if i'm prime minister i'm not going to have this

00:21:34.140 these kind of shenanigans going on in my government i'm not going to have this lack of accountability

00:21:38.940 i'm not going to have old pensioners having trouble buying their food we are going to fix this country we're

00:21:46.060 going to get it on the move and be positive and be prime ministerial and i think that uh that then

00:21:52.940 we can have some real solid change in canada because right now as you and i've been speaking

00:21:57.020 for the last few minutes uh we are a country that is this is punching so below we're in trouble there's

00:22:03.820 no question about that you know these guys can have their little party these guys can have their

00:22:09.020 little party after the budget but at the end of the day the the bills are going to start coming in

00:22:14.780 and the fact that they're going to maybe cut what 28 000 something i can't remember what the number was

00:22:22.140 uh civil servants over the course of the next few years all through attrition that may not be able to

00:22:28.380 cut it you know because now we've got fitch we've got the bond rating agencies finally taking notice

00:22:35.020 of the problems that we're having in this country and so you know if if they are paying attention then

00:22:40.300 we're going to be facing a credit downgrade and if we're facing a credit downgrade then that's going

00:22:46.060 to make it even harder for us to stay on top of the debts that we have incurred as a result of just

00:22:53.420 the interest on that massive debt that we've got and they just raised the debt ceiling to over two

00:22:58.860 trillion dollars i mean and like it's like these people have no concept that they're spending the

00:23:04.620 taxpayers dollar they have no respect for it all they do is laugh about it you can see that these

00:23:09.260 people are incredibly arrogant you know laughing it up and having a grand old time the way they did

00:23:15.420 after what after the the budget that they just tabled i it three is just disgusting but maybe that's

00:23:21.900 just my view of things and so when people decide likability if likability is that big an issue for

00:23:28.060 you then why don't you look at what the government is doing you know the people actually spending your

00:23:32.860 money you know do you like what they're doing it's amazing you look at this poll this leger poll

00:23:39.420 almost two-thirds of canadians say that the government is falling down when it comes to dealing

00:23:45.100 with their overspending like 64 percent of canadians say you know these guys aren't doing enough

00:23:51.180 to balance the books to cut their spending and then again you flip that around and go but they

00:23:56.860 still love them they still love the liberals you know they still vote they would still support them

00:24:01.660 if an election were held today none of this makes sense unless of course you know the standards that

00:24:07.180 you have you know you set the bar so low for liberals that you know it's easy to just step over it

00:24:14.460 you know what i'm saying let me take issue with that on mark it does it does make sense okay and i don't

00:24:20.220 like that it makes sense but it does make sense first of all because the things that you and i

00:24:24.220 have been talking about most people don't know because they aren't going to get it out of the

00:24:27.180 toronto star paid for by the prime minister's office or the cbc or the ctv or global they aren't going to

00:24:32.380 get the news out of that of what they need to know the second thing is that that we need to have

00:24:39.020 almost like better stream of consciousness with our politics in this country the politics in our country

00:24:43.980 are poisoned uh and they shouldn't be uh but it's been very very tough for the opposition and i just

00:24:51.500 think the opposition has to get smarter and they have to uh say okay if that's the game that uh that

00:24:57.260 everybody's being played we'll get someone in here who aside from the leader and have our leader to be

00:25:03.340 prime ministerial and to come out and say i'm not going to have this going on in our country where

00:25:10.140 to your point we pay more in interest payments than we pay for health care for every canadian

00:25:17.260 that's an astonishing fact right there amazing so we can do better we should do better uh we have to

00:25:25.020 keep the the government's keep their feet to the fire which is what you and i have been doing and uh

00:25:31.180 more people have to realize what the truth is about this government because

00:25:35.580 it's not doing well and uh they're just rubbing canadians noses in the face you know we ditched

00:25:42.060 we ditched a perfectly good government in 2015 and for what you know to me it's like

00:25:49.340 look if you're gonna vote based on the most superficial things imaginable like whether

00:25:54.220 somebody's haircut is nice or whether you might have a beer with them or not i prefer you just stay

00:25:59.660 home on election day man just uh you know do something else watch some stuff something stupid

00:26:04.620 on netflix just it's like it's almost it's like a wasted vote stay the hell home well i mean i know

00:26:12.460 i'm ranting a little bit but this stuff just we get this under my skin and part of it is our north

00:26:17.660 american society uh look what happened in toronto when they had elected child nice lady terrible terrible

00:26:25.180 candidate terrible mayor look what happened the other night in new york city i mean i i still can't

00:26:30.860 believe it that i looked at the eyes they said that something like 33 of the jewish population of new

00:26:37.660 york voted for this guy who is do you believe that what an astonishing fact wow somebody yeah vote let's

00:26:48.620 vote for the guy who absolutely despises us i know well you know anyway i want to wrap things up because

00:26:54.940 uh i'm going to wrap things up but uh your three your three minute interview that is the show that you

00:27:02.220 host on youtube people can access that access that anytime they want right it's a new there's a new

00:27:08.060 show every day okay um and it uh it generally deals with the stuff that you and i have been talking about

00:27:13.980 because i'll tell you we've got to help straighten out this country or else too many people are going to

00:27:20.620 be suffering so i'm glad to be invited on your show i'm glad you have your show i'm glad you know

00:27:25.500 prints out the real and projects the real news and uh we're going to keep at it until we get a good

00:27:31.740 government in this country steven le drew thank you sir great chatting with you once again always a

00:27:38.380 pleasure thanks mark and that is that it for this edition of straight up hope you enjoyed it my friends

00:27:45.340 let's do it again soon shall we and see you next time

Juno News - November 07, 2025

Carney’s credibility CRUMBLES as Canadians lose faith

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