Juno News - Carney’s EV mandate isn’t dead — it’s just hiding

00:00:00.000 Welcome to The Fighter with Chris Sims. I am Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the

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00:00:43.620 show here at Juno News. Folks, we have a really important guest for you lined up in a second.

00:00:48.480 We're going to be talking with a barn burner, Dan McTague, longtime former Liberal Member of

00:00:54.880 Parliament. Remember back when former Liberal governments did things like balance the budget

00:00:59.620 and slay the deficit and care about stuff like that? Well, Dan was there for all of that, but

00:01:05.320 he's the guy that truly sees behind the weeds on things like banning the sale of normal gasoline

00:01:14.740 and diesel vehicles. Yeah, folks, it's still happening. Carney's just hiding it through regulation.

00:01:23.240 Remember how we talked last time about the fact that we don't have the energy, we don't have the

00:01:28.820 electricity to have all of these battery-powered plug-in vehicles, and we don't have the money to build

00:01:35.700 the infrastructure? I mean, frankly, the federal government itself already says that to make the

00:01:42.120 switch over to electric vehicles, it's going to cost somewhere around $300 billion or $400 billion.

00:01:51.320 Billion with a B. So Dan's going to break that down for us. But first, off the top, obviously,

00:01:57.900 as of tape time for this show, we've seen another floor crossing. So a member of parliament who was

00:02:04.220 elected under the Conservative Party banner out of the Edmonton area has, bingo, turned around and walked

00:02:11.360 across the floor, joining the Mark Carney Liberal government. Now, from a taxpayer's perspective,

00:02:18.380 we're hearing all sorts of emails. People are super ticked off. We get that. The solution to this

00:02:24.700 stuff is making sure that we have recall legislation at the federal level. For our viewers outside of the

00:02:33.420 province of Alberta, the province of Alberta has a recall legislation at the municipal school board

00:02:40.920 and provincial level. We can recall an MLA or a school board trustee or a mayor or a city councillor.

00:02:50.880 You just need to gather enough signatures and then a beautiful thing happens. A by-election occurs.

00:02:56.520 The reason why that's a really good thing is because if the constituents are super ticked off,

00:03:03.800 for example, if they're super ticked off up in Edmonton right now, if they're super ticked off,

00:03:09.340 they can vote against that candidate in the by-election. Or if they're happy with what the

00:03:16.240 candidate has been doing, they can reinstate them and they can keep their job. It's a nice,

00:03:21.740 clear tool of direct democracy. So we need to have recall legislation at the federal government 0.64

00:03:30.600 level. That is a tool of democracy that we desperately need. I will say we have been getting

00:03:37.520 thousands of notes about Mike Dawson. So he is a conservative member of parliament, okay,

00:03:45.460 from New Brunswick, okay? Mike from Miramichi, okay? He's the drywaller, okay? Who came out and said,

00:03:54.180 you know what? I'm already making like $200,000 per year. Backbenchers, that's what they're paid.

00:04:01.100 I don't need a pay hike. The working men and women in my riding, they're struggling right now. They're

00:04:08.840 fighting to afford food on the table. They're fighting to afford their power bills, all that stuff.

00:04:15.460 I don't need a pay hike. And so as a member of parliament, he wrote to the clerk of the House

00:04:21.200 of Commons and he said, don't give me a pay hike. I'm refusing this pay hike. Then something

00:04:30.580 interesting happened. The caucus meeting happened after that and stories came out through the CBC,

00:04:37.940 I will point out, the state broadcaster. Somebody, not Mike, somebody came out of that caucus meeting

00:04:44.780 and started saying that Mike Dawson was getting heckled. Getting heckled within caucus. Saying

00:04:51.780 stuff like, oh, you know, we need our pay raise. Oh, hey, why don't you use the money to get a new suit?

00:04:57.860 A little bit of free advice. If those members of parliament feel that strongly about it,

00:05:03.200 they should get up in front of microphones and cameras and the media and say so.

00:05:08.380 Explain why they're entitled to their entitlements and why they were going after an MP like Mike

00:05:16.100 Dawson. We got a chance to catch up with him actually. And we asked him about how things were

00:05:21.480 going. Listen to this. A parade didn't suddenly start behind you of other members of parliament

00:05:27.180 also saying that they were going to refuse their raises. So I know it can feel a little lonely

00:05:31.600 sometimes in Ottawa, but did those thousands of emails and messages help?

00:05:37.660 I think they, they help a little bit. For me, it, I don't, it don't matter to me if there's a parade

00:05:46.460 behind me or not. I didn't do it to try to, I'd like to see the others do it, but I didn't do it to

00:05:52.540 try to, for publicity or to try to start a trend that people were going to start donating money back,

00:05:59.620 giving their raises back. I did it because it was the right thing to do for me. And I just thought

00:06:04.840 it was the right thing to do. I'm just an ordinary person, a drywaller from New Brunswick that the

00:06:09.680 liberals said that shouldn't be in Ottawa. Um, I'm just an ordinary day person like everybody else.

00:06:15.160 I get up before I was a politician. I'm not your career politician. Um, it's just something I fell

00:06:22.120 into. And I, when I signed up for it, I said that I wasn't going to, going to be a regular politician.

00:06:28.680 I was going to do things differently. And I would try to represent the people of Miramichi Grand

00:06:33.160 Lake the best way I can. And at the end of the day, I hope that they're happy with the way I'm

00:06:38.120 doing it. Um, judging by some of the emails across Canada, there's a lot of people that seem to be,

00:06:43.540 so I'll keep doing what I'm doing until I can't do it no more.

00:06:48.280 So good on Dawson. And, um, my brother's a drywaller. He's up at around 3.30, 3.45 every

00:06:55.360 morning in the dark in order to drive into the job site, which is more than an hour away. Um,

00:07:01.360 Dawson is right. He doesn't need a new suit. He doesn't need fancy shoes to be a good representative

00:07:06.940 for his constituents. And I just want to call out those MPs who were in that caucus.

00:07:14.140 You should have the courage to come up in front of a bunch of live cameras and explain to your

00:07:18.680 constituents why you're entitled to yet another pay raise, because I will remind everyone during

00:07:26.560 the lockdowns, remember people losing their jobs, entire industries getting shut down, all of that

00:07:32.080 people losing their pay. Members of parliament never missed one pay hike, not one. They got their

00:07:40.340 automatic pay raise on April 1st, no fooling every single year, all during those hard times.

00:07:46.340 I'll also point out that former prime minister, Stephen Harper, he froze MP pay for years. Why?

00:07:54.880 Because of the 2008 recession, he thought it was wrong for politicians to take a pay hike after the

00:08:01.640 2008 recession. He was correct back then. And Mike Dawson is correct right now. So there's all sorts of

00:08:10.180 foo-for-ah happening around parliament hill. It probably won't be the last strange news that we're

00:08:16.040 hearing out of Ottawa over the next coming days. But I just wanted to stress that if MPs leave or do a

00:08:23.520 bad job or whatever, the proper answer for a toolbox is to have recall legislation for whatever reason.

00:08:30.040 So that way, if you get enough signatures gathered, you can have a reset button, you can have a by-election

00:08:36.000 and people in the riding can have their say. Okay. I want to switch gears here real quick,

00:08:42.220 because there's something super important that's still happening here in Canada. And that is the ban

00:08:49.260 on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel vehicles. Okay. The ones that the vast majority of us purchase and

00:08:57.040 drive. Okay. Those ones. You might've heard that, oh, the ED mandate is gone. Poof, gone. Nothing to see

00:09:03.800 her, folks. It's all fine. It's all fine. It's not all fine. In fact, it's the opposite. Okay. Yes,

00:09:11.260 it's a win that we have the Kearney government running for the hills on this. We have them in retreat.

00:09:18.280 It means they've looked left and right and they realize that, oh, outright banning the sale of

00:09:25.280 normal gas and diesel vehicles isn't super popular. Hmm. What are we going to do? Well,

00:09:31.400 let's make a big announcement that we're canceling it. So that's a good thing that they're, that they're

00:09:36.080 spooked. The bad thing is that they're still doing it. Okay. Kearney is now hiding his ban on the sale

00:09:46.440 of normal cars and trucks, gas and diesel cars and trucks. He's hiding his ban in regulations.

00:09:53.520 They're going to regulate the industry to the point where in their vision, you have no other choices or

00:10:00.000 options, but a battery powered vehicle, even if you don't want to drive one. So A, why is the government

00:10:08.660 doing that and trying to force you into driving only a battery powered vehicle? And two, where is the

00:10:16.700 money and the electricity going to come from to power these vehicles? Because we have unmoney. We're

00:10:25.780 more than a trillion dollars in debt. The interest payments on our national debt costing us a billion

00:10:32.140 dollars a week. And we don't have the electricity. Remember how we get all these warnings, these brown 1.00

00:10:39.060 out warnings and blackout warnings of save the grid. Don't dry your clothes in the laundry room. Don't use

00:10:45.120 your hairdryer in the morning, or we're going to have a power failure. That's without everybody driving

00:10:50.800 a battery powered vehicle. Where is the electricity supposed to come from? Where's the money supposed to

00:10:56.680 come from to build the infrastructure for these electric vehicles? Who has these answers? Let's

00:11:04.040 find out. Joining me now is Dan McTague. He was a former longtime liberal member of parliament, but

00:11:11.880 those were different liberals and that was a different liberal government. He is now heading up

00:11:16.680 Canadians for Affordable Energy. He is a good friend of this show, a great friend to taxpayers. Dan,

00:11:22.600 I would be remiss if I didn't ask you as a political animal, what your response was, was to today's news.

00:11:30.120 Well, a couple of things. First of all, I think the house to come is an amount of billions of dollars

00:11:34.360 we're spending to renovate it. They want to actually have these electric chairs that basically allow you

00:11:39.000 to just switch a button. It picks up your chair and crosses you, goes across the floor automatically,

00:11:44.360 given the number that seem to think that that's a cool thing. They get elected in a few months later,

00:11:47.960 they want to change their mind for whatever reason. I mean, I won't get into the personal

00:11:52.920 side, but I know a lot about Jenneru. I know there's some real weird personal issues there,

00:11:58.600 but it's not for me to delve into. I think over time, we will really find out what was behind this

00:12:04.920 since he's been a bit of an odd bird for the past little while, and traveling from one end to the

00:12:10.520 country to the other isn't very good. But I think for those out there who are hawkish about an election

00:12:16.680 being called, if this puts the Liberals a lot closer to that majority, that coveted majority,

00:12:21.880 that they're getting by bringing over Conservative members, perhaps they'll get some of this from the

00:12:26.600 other party's block or NDP or what's left of it. You know, if Bill Blair's rotting remains Liberal,

00:12:33.720 then that would mean effectively the Liberals have a bare but functioning majority. And I think that

00:12:40.200 the idea of an election call would certainly be off. And even for the Elbozo's out there that love to 1.00

00:12:45.560 think that this is all about Trump, it would be nonsensical to try to call an election in the idea

00:12:51.480 to hope that you would score, you know, an even greater majority. David Peterson tried that when I

00:12:57.000 was working for the Housing Minister in Ontario, and it didn't work out so well for him. So I think

00:13:01.800 we've come to the extent, let's let the Liberals do what they're going to do. Let them, you know, run amok

00:13:07.800 another few more years, let more Canadians fall under the waterline. Let them be hurt by the bad 0.99

00:13:14.520 policies and reckless policies and continuation of the Truro policies that Mark Carney is conferring.

00:13:19.480 I'll talk about that a little while, but you know, whether it's EV mandates or, you know, the Shell

00:13:23.560 game, a bit of a sleight of hand on consumer carbon taxes going to industrial and other types of carbon

00:13:29.320 taxes. The reality is that, you know, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. It's Justin Trudeau,

00:13:35.400 the Liberals destroying the economy 2.0. But just without the obvious fancy socks references,

00:13:41.880 um, I wanted to straight up from a taxpayer's perspective when it comes to stuff like floor

00:13:46.520 crossing or really any sort of things that's happened shortly after an election. This isn't,

00:13:50.920 again, one of the reasons why we need recall legislation at the federal level. Now we want

00:13:55.240 it to be a certain high watermark. It can't be that, you know, just any old person can trigger

00:13:59.480 a by-election, but if things become egregious enough, that would mean that a by-election is then

00:14:05.160 held. And frankly, that member of parliament can run for his or her old seat. And sometimes,

00:14:11.160 as we've seen in California, they get reinstated by their electorate, but at least the voters have

00:14:16.680 had a say. So we'll have to wait and see what happens in the House of Commons. As of tape time,

00:14:21.960 we had one more floor crosser that was happening coming from Alberta over to the Mark Carney Liberals.

00:14:27.080 Now, Dan, I wanted to get you on the show because I was feeling conflicted.

00:14:33.320 We had, we saw this whole EV mandate as it's called. We call it the ban on the sale of gas

00:14:39.480 and diesel vehicles or the ban on the sale of normal cars and trucks in Canada. And I wanted

00:14:45.320 to celebrate it as a win because we do have the Carney government in retreat on this issue where they're

00:14:52.200 like, oh, we actually can't do this. But the problem, Dan, which is why I needed you on the show,

00:14:58.760 is that it feels like they're just hiding it now. It's just going to be the same thing,

00:15:03.960 but they're going to do it through regulation rather than an outright ban. Where are you on this?

00:15:09.960 Well, that's right. You still have the EV mandate. And let me be perfectly clear about that. For those

00:15:14.680 out there that think this is great, plus 5 billion bucks in grift or 6 billion, if you consider,

00:15:19.400 you know, the companies that were opposed to this, like the Fords, the GMs and the ultimately

00:15:24.760 the Stellantis of this world, we're not going to get 5 billion bucks or 3 billion bucks from the

00:15:28.920 federal government to pretend that they can somehow, you know, adjust to this new regulation. We're

00:15:34.840 going to see, you know, another 1.5, 1.6 billion in charges. We already spent 1.2 to get 36,000.

00:15:41.240 We need 450 to get 100% EV, by the way. So it ain't going to happen. And of course, there's always the

00:15:47.320 give money to the rich so they can go drive around these over glorified golf carts on four wheels or

00:15:53.720 four sized toasters on wheels, or, you know, drive an appliance to work. I mean, I'm being contemptuous

00:15:58.920 of these things because they do not equate, nor are they the same thing as an internal combustion engine.

00:16:04.600 But let's, the fundamental problem here is that Mark Carney said 75% emission caps by 2035. Well,

00:16:11.640 the United States tried that with just 50% and they booted it right through the end zone because it was not

00:16:16.040 going to work. There's no way you can find the technology that's going to get 50% reductions

00:16:21.000 on what has been over the past 30 years. Average vehicles have dropped emissions by 30% with all

00:16:27.320 the new technologies. And of course, Chris, everyone has to know the biggest, most significant technology

00:16:33.640 that happened, happened over 53 years ago with the invention of the catalytic converter. And that was the,

00:16:39.000 that was really the pollution changer. We're only talking CO2 here. We're not talking about real pollution.

00:16:44.120 And, uh, I know that some people like to, uh, conflate, uh, you know, pollution with CO2.

00:16:49.080 It's not, if it were that, that were the cases I like to say, uh, uh, to stop exhaling.

00:16:53.960 The reality here is that 75% by 2035 and 90% by 2040, 2045 is an exercise in, uh, in wishful thinking.

00:17:03.400 And it basically means that you don't need an EV mandate. All you have to do is make sure that no one

00:17:07.880 can get that 75 prediction, 75% reduction on any vehicle that's built as an internal combustion

00:17:13.640 engine, and they only have a choice, but to buy those, uh, uh, plug-in vehicles. Uh, so you can

00:17:18.680 drive around batteries, uh, for, uh, for the on nice cold days like today, which worked wonderfully.

00:17:23.400 The government like, uh, the, uh, consumer carbon tax, which they got rid of was quickly replaced by

00:17:30.920 stealth so that most people don't understand it by an OBPS and, uh, industrial, uh, uh, carbon tax

00:17:37.320 as well as something you and I have been talking about for seven years now, uh, on the, uh, clean

00:17:42.200 fuel standard, which is as you know, you yourself and Franklin Ferrazano here at Canadian Taxpayers

00:17:47.320 Federation have pointed out, it's going to be 20 cents a litre by 2030. So they've basically swapped

00:17:52.600 it while we're sitting around saying, oh, it's, isn't it wonderful it's happened. No, you're getting

00:17:56.120 gouged one way or another, just so we can walk around virtue signal at international events like

00:18:00.760 we see at Davos. So we can, you know, spill back Perrier and, you know, eat back some canapes and,

00:18:05.880 uh, put our elbows up and pretend they were cool and trendy when everyone thinks what a weird country,

00:18:10.680 uh, you're basically destroying yourself. And in the process, lying to people about what you're

00:18:14.840 doing, the net zero agenda is still very much intact. All he's done is shifted. How's that?

00:18:19.480 Mark Carney is very clever. In fact, he's sly and he's devious. And for that reason,

00:18:24.520 you should be very careful because there's going to be less than less in your pocketbook

00:18:28.520 as this man continues to double down, triple down on net zero. And so, uh, I'll take my word for it.

00:18:34.600 It's why his guys at Brookfield have moved out of Canada, moved to the United States and, uh,

00:18:38.200 anything that he can do to, you know, thumb his nose at Canada at, uh, you know, at Trump and

00:18:43.160 the United States, he's going to do, but it's going to cost you and I far more.

00:18:47.240 So not banning the vehicles, uh, just removing every single other choice you have until you have no other

00:18:54.120 options. Correct. And no, no vehicle can run on, you know, 75% reduction. No one in the world has

00:18:59.560 that technology. Let's be very clear. Uh, these are people who love to talk about science, but they

00:19:04.200 know the science isn't there. The technology is not there. The innovation is not there. And even if

00:19:07.800 you wish it, it's not there. I mean, it's saying we're going to base our policy on something that

00:19:11.320 doesn't exist. It still sounds like the CO2 policy. We're going to go throw our economy out the window

00:19:17.320 based on air, literally clean air. And so I, I, I am very concerned that the EV mandate thing.

00:19:23.400 Yeah. It was nice to see the big companies, you know, and their representatives standing behind

00:19:27.800 and having driving around the little Avro 2.0 and things like that. That's all great and

00:19:32.120 wonderful and trendy, but this is not 2015 anymore. The harsh reality is that we've destroyed the auto

00:19:37.400 sector. It's not going to get better with this. No, one's going to want to build in Canada. What it is

00:19:41.880 going to do is send a signal to China, bring them on in folks, have your electric vehicles. And by the way,

00:19:48.040 Doug Ford said it one week, but he quickly changed next week. These are spy vehicles.

00:19:52.600 And if you don't think so, think of all the ways which this country has slyly come into Canada,

00:19:57.400 you know, looking on the side and trying to peer into what we're doing. These vehicles will be gone

00:20:01.880 in five, 10 years. And by the way, I think maybe you and I should start a building at landfill sites,

00:20:06.280 because that's exactly where these batteries are going to wind up. They can't be recycled.

00:20:09.400 Unlike the internal combustion engine, which is 100% recyclable like it or not for the trendies out there.

00:20:16.200 I wanted to stress for people to please read this book. If you don't want to give

00:20:21.560 Prime Minister Mark Carney any money, take it out from the library, borrow it from a friend.

00:20:26.120 I stress this because the whole plan to get rid of regular gas and diesel vehicles,

00:20:32.840 like it's all listed in here. He refers to things like hot water tanks and the language is so foggy,

00:20:40.840 right? So I'm always paraphrasing. Okay. But he basically says that things like hot water tanks,

00:20:46.920 natural gas power plants. He refers to these things as stranded assets in the future. He talks about

00:20:56.360 keeping 80% of oil and gas in the ground. And so Prime Minister Mark Carney wrote this back when he was

00:21:03.880 the UN special envoy to blah, blah, blah. Like he was literally working for them when he wrote this book

00:21:09.720 just a couple of years ago. And folks, he's got your wallet. This person who wrote this book has

00:21:16.040 got a hold of your wallet. So it's super important to know what his plans are and what he's doing.

00:21:21.320 Dan, I wanted to stress, A, I agree with you completely. This thing is not gone. It's just

00:21:26.600 being camouflaged. They're just hiding in the bushes. Now, instead of coming over the ridge,

00:21:30.600 we're in red coats. Second, they're not addressing where the money is going to come from for the power

00:21:39.960 that would be required for us all to charge these battery powered vehicles. Say Santa Claus snapped

00:21:46.760 his fingers and made all of our vehicle fleet battery powered vehicles, no more internal combustion

00:21:52.600 engine. We do not have the energy, period, to plug these things in. Where is that juice supposed

00:22:00.520 to come from? Well, it's an exercise in magic and make-believe and wishful thinking. And I think

00:22:06.920 it's very clear that aspirational stuff is wonderful until someone has to pay for it. Turns out it's

00:22:12.360 going to be our kids. You know, when I was around, I worked for Jean-Claude St. Paul Martin. They were

00:22:18.840 aghast at the idea that we would have a debt and deficit that would go to control to the point where

00:22:23.640 in 1997, 1998, no, Mark Carney claims he had something to do with it. He had nothing to do with it.

00:22:28.920 They actually, you know, put the clamps down and we cut back on everything. We met our obligations.

00:22:35.080 We're quickly losing that. I'm not sure how it is that bond rating agencies are sitting on the

00:22:39.800 sideline, not saying anything, but for a country like Canada, when you consider consumer debt,

00:22:45.560 corporate debt, and total government debt, subsovereign as well, so provinces and federal

00:22:50.040 government, and we're running at debt levels of 337%. That's unsustainable. So for the government

00:22:58.040 now to propose that we can get rid of the auto sectors, we're trying to get rid of the energy

00:23:03.160 sector. Number one and two, dynamo is when it comes to exports and wealth generation in this country.

00:23:09.800 If you think you can wish these things away and then substitute that by borrowing money,

00:23:14.600 we have to be out of our minds. I mean, to go along with this stuff. And you know,

00:23:18.280 the people that have an interest in saying, let's preserve this are the ones that have,

00:23:23.240 you know, have the, the, the, the comforts of not reading, have to worry about what implication

00:23:28.680 is going to have for them. And I think it's very selfish, but I won't speak the psychology

00:23:32.680 that I think Mark Carney and his liberals are well aversed at exploiting. It's also, I think a simple

00:23:39.320 bit of reality is about to hit and fight Canada really hard. I guess I'm one of those that says,

00:23:44.120 let's, let's, let's, let's give the liberals their majority. And to some conservatives,

00:23:48.200 or I said, thank God, you're not in power having to deal with this mess, because it's going to get a

00:23:52.600 lot worse. And there's no way out of this because the liberals, like, you know, like a, like a hungry dog

00:23:58.120 and a bone will not let go of net zero and all the damage, the totality of the damages to the

00:24:02.760 Canadian economy. Get aside the issue of dollars and cents, Chris, I also have to be concerned about

00:24:08.600 what it does to the Federation because of the straight, the strains in the Federation are, are,

00:24:12.920 are numerous. As we know, I've talked about the MOU will not likely mean any new pipelines anytime soon.

00:24:18.440 I suspect that we're going to see a very different political landscape in this country. There's no

00:24:23.160 amount of control or any amount of, you know, use of their powers to, to suppress public concern out

00:24:33.560 there that is going to in some way curb the dissent that I think is coming our way. Thanks to a handful

00:24:39.080 of people who doing very well by what the government is doing and allowing Mark Carney to basically get

00:24:43.960 away with further demolition of the great Canadian economy. Yeah. You're in Ontario. I'm here in Alberta.

00:24:49.640 To our viewers who are living, you know, in the East, I got to say, Dan's right. These issues

00:24:57.000 are major issues for Albertans to put it nicely. It's one of the reasons why Alberta Premier Daniel

00:25:04.040 Smith included scrapping this cockamamie idea of banning the sale of normal cars and trucks.

00:25:11.800 It was on her list of demands along with things like pipelines, along with things like getting rid 0.66

00:25:16.600 of the production cap. It was stop trying to force people to purchase vehicles that the government

00:25:23.640 wants. If you want to go buy a battery powered vehicle, go, you do so with your own money,

00:25:29.160 like fill your boots. That's completely fine. The issue is a government shouldn't be telling you

00:25:35.000 what kind of vehicle to drive. B we do not have the money for this or the electricity for this. Like

00:25:40.920 it just does not make mathematical sense, which is one of the reasons why Smith is saying this is a

00:25:46.280 stupid idea and we need to get rid of it. And you're right. It is causing friction. I can just,

00:25:52.200 I feel it adding up like poker chips right here of like, you guys are pulling that football away

00:25:58.520 for Charlie Brown to try to kick a few too many times and you're going to take people right off.

00:26:03.640 Okay. And so I wanted to quickly switch gears of where do we go from here? Like I've already laid

00:26:11.000 out. I did the back of the napkin math. Okay. We would need something like 14 new huge can do nuclear

00:26:17.800 reactors just to power these vehicles. I'm not even talking about delivery vehicles. I'm talking

00:26:23.000 privately owned vehicles that people just have in their driveways. Like we have un money for this.

00:26:28.680 We cannot afford this. Where does this go? Like, where does this plan run out of gas, Dan? And I'm,

00:26:35.160 I'm just scared for regular hardworking people here. Like what, what happens from here?

00:26:41.400 My writing when I was a member of Parliament was Pickering in 1966. They created North America's

00:26:47.560 first. I'm going to put it a little closer. Look at that.

00:26:50.840 Yeah. So I keep that because it's a symbol of something we did not because we were concerned about

00:26:54.680 the environment because we had no other way of getting power. British Columbia needs

00:26:57.880 six times more sightseed dams, uh, to fulfill its, uh, its needs currently. It has to borrow from

00:27:04.920 Wyoming. It has to get extra energy because it doesn't have enough for to satisfy itself yet.

00:27:10.040 They want to expand the EV fleet. Quebec. Wonderful Quebec. We have a lot of power.

00:27:16.920 Now baloney. From January the 21st until January the 29th, you had to borrow 3000 megawatts a day from

00:27:24.600 Ontario. And by the way, you told your contractors in Massachusetts, those you have contracts with,

00:27:29.560 you can't, uh, get them energy. And there's probably going to be some lawsuits as a result of

00:27:33.560 that Quebec doesn't have enough of its hydrodens. What happens to hydrodens? Wonderful. Except in the,

00:27:37.800 uh, in the winter, they freeze and you can't let that water go through there without doing

00:27:42.360 potential damage to your floodgates. And so there's that. There's Americans have made,

00:27:47.160 made it very clear that they don't have enough power and they can talk about the loop all they want.

00:27:50.920 At the end of the day, we need a mix of power and we have to put all of our efforts towards that.

00:27:56.280 No peaker plants, no natural gas, dispatchable energy immediately. You want to freeze in the dark?

00:28:01.240 Because that's what you're looking for. And that's what these grifters want. They certainly don't care

00:28:05.720 about us, but you know, we're the only country that does this to ourselves. The United States does not

00:28:09.800 tolerate this. And by the way, you mentioned Mark Carney's book, Values. One of the things he created with

00:28:13.960 GFANS, everyone forgets about the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero. Guess what? He tried that,

00:28:19.080 told the American bank, stop investing in fossil fuels. And, uh, these are stranded assets. They

00:28:24.200 did. They started us department of, uh, the, the antitrust division started to look at a report by, uh,

00:28:29.880 Congress. It's really important. People understand this. Look at the report from the house of

00:28:33.160 representatives and said, this amounts to, uh, gaming the system and it's anti-competitive and it's

00:28:39.240 possibly, it looks like a lot like a, a collusion and cartel. And for that reason, uh, I hate to use this

00:28:45.480 term because I, I please, you know, plug your ears. You'll like it. The shorter set out of GFANS,

00:28:51.000 they left Mark Carney almost in a position where he had been charged. And by the way, in the United

00:28:54.200 States, as you and I have talked about this in the past, uh, Chris, if you were charged under

00:28:58.760 antitrust, trying to destroy competition, you pay three times the damages. In other words, the trending

00:29:04.200 cute banks and the Michael Bloomberg's and all these other folks down there realized, my God, if we kill a

00:29:09.480 70, 80, 90 billion dollar industry, we're going to owe one quarter of a trillion bucks. So they got

00:29:15.160 out of there very quickly. Mark Carney can do that in Canada because we're such nice people. We have

00:29:19.880 a competition act that isn't, uh, that, you know, that they, I call it limp-wristed, but isn't worth

00:29:24.200 the paper it's written on and basically subject to anything government wants to do. The reality is for

00:29:29.080 many Canadians, you can't afford Mark Carney has in store for you and be very, very careful because while

00:29:35.080 Trudeau was a bit of a goof and you loved him for his socks, his sock, his sobbing and his selfies,

00:29:40.200 this guy is sly and he's very cunning. He's also highly dishonest and taking those books, contrasting

00:29:45.960 it, he's not changing his position. All he's doing is moving things around. It's camouflage,

00:29:50.120 as you mentioned earlier, and it's going to damage this economy far further than anything we've

00:29:54.120 expected. The Federation and our ability to attract investments, even to build, rebuild hydro is going

00:30:00.440 to be impossible. We don't have true trillion dollars to invest. We haven't got

00:30:05.080 anything to, uh, to do our business in, let alone a window to throw it out of.

00:30:11.320 I love when you, uh, work in some of our old phrases we used to use on the hill, but you use

00:30:15.560 nice language to do it. Um, you, you do have to, I'll leave you with this, Dan. I think it was

00:30:21.880 for the average person watching, I'll just give them an example. Recently, Newfoundland and Labrador

00:30:26.360 Hydro, they had to put out an alert saying, everybody don't use your toasters. Like don't, don't,

00:30:31.960 don't dry your clothes in a clothes dryer. Don't have hot showers because they were running out of

00:30:36.680 power. And they only have, I went and checked on stats can, Dan. They only have 1200 battery

00:30:43.640 powered vehicles in the entire province. Like to give you an example, it was like 0.002%

00:30:49.800 of the population of the fleet of vehicles privately owned in Newfoundland and Labrador.

00:30:54.600 And they still said, please don't plug in your EVs. Like. Turn off your heat pumps.

00:31:01.080 Where like, this is it. This makes no sense. This makes no sense. Even if you were the biggest

00:31:06.840 cheerleader for EVs. Um, we don't have the juice or the money for this, which is again, getting me

00:31:13.000 back to this. So then you're, you're in, lastly, you just think this is part of the plan then you

00:31:17.960 want, they, they want people to not have power and what not, not own a vehicle, not drive, not

00:31:23.560 have power. They want control. They want control of your lives so they can go to international events

00:31:28.520 and boast what a great thing they've done to destroy the country. I would leave people this. If you don't

00:31:32.440 believe me on the EVs, I was one of the predicted the bright drop and the other plants would shut down

00:31:36.520 well before Mark Kearney called the election. And they did. Uh, if you think for a moment that this

00:31:41.960 country can go down the road of not producing energy and selling to the rest of the world,

00:31:45.960 not manufacturing, selling to the rest of the world, there really isn't much else left for

00:31:50.440 the country. And so we have a, we have a really important decision to make. And it's one that

00:31:54.680 basically says this, uh, let's do best with everything that we have, because we're the only

00:32:00.280 country in the world that's not proposing that if we want to make any more pipelines, we just want to

00:32:04.520 sell any more of our most important, valuable assets, oil and gas, it has to be decarbonized. There is no

00:32:10.760 country in the world. That's so insane. It would make that kind of a commitment, that kind of a

00:32:14.600 pledge. So let me, let me make this to the boomers that might be listening. It says it's your pensions 0.80

00:32:19.480 that are in trouble. It's the value of your home that's in trouble, because when you lose the ability

00:32:24.840 to sell the things the rest of the world wants or worse, you put burdens on it that impose, you know,

00:32:30.280 significant taxation, you know, forces investment out of the country. It's your security that's up in

00:32:37.000 smoke, unless you're planning to get your assets out of Canada and somewhere else, uh, for the

00:32:41.560 albozos out there. And I call them that who think this is cute and trendy because it doesn't affect

00:32:45.800 them. It's only a matter of time in six months from now, there will be the grinding of teeth

00:32:50.440 and the gnashing of teeth, if you will, as a result of our willingness to let these people, um, do the

00:32:55.720 damage that they've continued doing for the past decade. Dan McTague, head of Canadians for affordable

00:33:01.960 energy, sir. Thank you so much for your insight as always. Great pleasure being here. Thanks for

00:33:06.280 having me, Chris. Folks, once again, that is Dan McTague. Go check out his website,

00:33:10.680 Canadians for affordable energy, make sure to support them because they're the ones

00:33:15.320 doing the heavy research into why we cannot afford things like this so-called EV mandate,

00:33:21.960 why we have to make sure that we are pushing back on crazy ideas coming from the federal government.

00:33:29.560 And be sure while you're at it to like this video and share it with your friends who need to know.

Juno News - February 21, 2026

Carney’s EV mandate isn’t dead — it’s just hiding

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