Juno News - May 14, 2025


CBC ATTACKS the Conservatives for… wanting to protect election integrity?


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00:00:00.000 i'm candace malcolm and this is the candace malcolm show we are back with jasmine lane and
00:00:06.360 i wanted to get into a topic that we discussed on the show yesterday with kian bexy but we have
00:00:10.900 some more news to report on this one so we're talking about the seat in quebec that is a tie
00:00:17.820 it is really unbelievable in a democracy that you would have something this close especially when
00:00:21.960 there's 32 000 and change uh voting for each party we're talking about the liberals and the
00:00:26.740 bloc and i want to just spend a bit more time talking about this seat and the sort of media
00:00:32.680 discussion around it so we saw and we covered this yesterday that there was a recount in this
00:00:39.220 writing of terrible quebec where on election night i believe it said that the liberals had won and
00:00:43.660 then they did a recount and then it was the bloc and then it switched back to the liberals by one vote
00:00:48.520 only for a woman to come forth from the bloc quebec law saying i voted for the bloc but my vote didn't
00:00:54.400 count and i have it in my hand it was mailed back to me because of an heir from elections canada so
00:00:59.980 this woman uh was caught up uh with by someone from the station uh nouveau info and interviewed this
00:01:07.100 woman her name is emmanuelle bossay and here she is it's dubbed over because she's speaking in french
00:01:12.920 but dubbed into english explaining what happened so let's play that clip emma here is possibly the vote
00:01:20.020 that could have made a difference in this election maybe yes because that's it i voted for the bloc
00:01:26.260 and now it's down to one vote so maybe it matters more than we think that little envelope but why is
00:01:33.540 this vote in your hands and not at the polling station that's a good question there is a mistake in
00:01:39.540 the postal code so i think that's why it was redirected to me because you were voting by mail did
00:01:47.140 they give you that envelope at elections canada i didn't write the address here it's really elections
00:01:52.340 canada that provides this envelope like this with the little sticker i just had to write my return
00:01:56.660 address here fill out my vote put it in the mail the stamp is already paid so it is really unbelievable
00:02:02.740 i just want to read this from the cbc story because this just shows how remarkable this story is so on
00:02:07.540 election night terabon initially went to auguste by 35 votes she's the liberal uh challenger so it was a
00:02:14.260 block held seat the liberal challenger won by 35 votes after the standard validation process the
00:02:19.860 result flipped to the incumbent block quebecois mp by 44 votes so that was a flip of some 79 votes
00:02:27.940 which triggered an automatic judicial recount and then the judicial recount came back with the libs up
00:02:34.740 by one vote only again to find this one one vote that this woman claims that she didn't get counted
00:02:41.220 not because of her own mistake but because of something elections candidate did and so to me
00:02:45.540 jasmine when i look at this i just think that something is up something is a little fishy and i
00:02:50.500 get that the liberals are just salivating over this narrative like they really really want conservatives
00:02:54.900 to lean into like election denial anything that's like tangentially related to donald trump and what
00:03:00.260 happened in the us in 2020 they want it to happen right they're fanning the flames they want the
00:03:04.100 conspiracy theories they want conservatives to come out and say oh my goodness this is just not right
00:03:09.700 just so that they again they did this during the campaign we had sam cooper on talking about how
00:03:14.020 it was partially a chinese election interference scheme where the communist party had to put this
00:03:20.420 idea out to try to paint canadian conservatives as trumpy and that was uncovered by ceases it was
00:03:25.860 actually the liberal government was warned about it and to me it's like they're playing this up because
00:03:32.180 they want conspiracies and the idea is that there is a problem here there is an issue with our election
00:03:38.100 integrity when votes can swing that much we're going to get through a couple more details but
00:03:42.980 tell me your initial thoughts on this story well i first have to say something kind of irrelevant to
00:03:47.460 this story but uh in terms of that memo from ceases that has since been leaked i do think it's awfully
00:03:53.460 interesting that the liberal party was warned about that and i believe it was 2021 and uh then instead
00:04:00.100 of saying oh this is a really big problem they said oh that's actually a really good idea we should do
00:04:05.540 that in our next election too and lo and behold um but in terms of of this riding you know i do think
00:04:11.540 it's interesting that there's only one individual who has come forward saying i got this sent back to
00:04:16.580 me um you can bet your bottom there's probably many more who just wouldn't make it public or perhaps
00:04:23.300 wouldn't know and so you know obviously there's going to need to be a by-election there i think even
00:04:28.020 just the probability of the difference being by one single vote is so incredibly rare one of the biggest
00:04:34.020 things that's interesting though is that you know there were in that riding when they had done the
00:04:38.100 recount there were 74 ballots that were newly validated and 63 of those were originally rejected
00:04:44.980 which is where my biggest question comes in being okay well so if they were rejected because of some
00:04:52.980 sort of an error on it somebody writing something else on the paper who whatever um why are they suddenly
00:04:59.620 now counting and also there were 11 new ballots that came seemingly out of absolutely nowhere and
00:05:07.060 it is quite frustrating that we have no response to that and i think just in general you know we
00:05:12.580 saw a really big problem with spoiled ballots rejected ballots this election and there are always
00:05:18.500 quite a few but you know in my polling station as an example there were no signs there was nobody
00:05:22.740 telling me what would make a rejected or spoiled ballot i'm aware that they do have details on elections
00:05:27.620 canada.ca but let's be real there's a lot of people who won't go and check that right so i think in
00:05:33.940 general there's people who will send a message certainly and that can affect the vote but there's
00:05:38.740 also a lot of people who maybe just didn't know and i think elections canada if you want to have this
00:05:43.300 integrity based system that you want to brag about so much you should probably be spending a lot more
00:05:48.580 money ensuring that people actually understand how the system works understand what they're doing
00:05:53.140 whether or not they want to send a message and they're okay with that spoiled ballot um and this
00:05:58.260 case you know as a whole in terms of all of the rejections i think it does open up a very big
00:06:04.260 discussion towards that and in terms of their of the integrity of this riding obviously there's some
00:06:09.140 very interesting things that are uh it's pretty hard to to get out of your head once you start looking
00:06:14.500 into them but at the end of the day you know with how much the government funds the bureaucracy in
00:06:21.060 order to operate the government you know elections canada uh hired roughly 200 000 people to help with
00:06:27.300 this election you would think with that many people there would certainly be a lot more oversight
00:06:31.780 uh to miss details like that uh fix them sorry um and so to me this really comes down to this isn't so
00:06:40.100 much about some big conspiracy theory as it is to absolute competence and i'm very curious how many
00:06:45.540 more people we may or may not see coming forward with their returned ballot in the mail because
00:06:50.580 something went wrong and it was just a massive error by elections canada right well i mean to that point
00:06:56.740 right the person that we saw in that clip she's obviously a fairly sophisticated political person
00:07:01.140 right she understood what had happened and as soon as the results came back tied she said well wait
00:07:06.020 a minute and she knew how to get her message out to your point there could have been dozens
00:07:09.940 or hundreds of more people that it happened to but they simply didn't understand like maybe they
00:07:13.700 thought oh okay they counted my vote and then they mailed it back to me i guess or like or or they just
00:07:18.420 oh junk mail throw it in the bin and never get to it now you said that there's a couple of facts about
00:07:23.140 this writing that once you get in your head you can't get out i think this might be uh some of the
00:07:27.140 things you're referring to this was on x from an account called election watcher so he tracked what the
00:07:31.860 changes were in the votes because like i said there was the validation where it flipped and then there was the
00:07:36.500 recount where it flipped again so this is the the seats that the votes for each party and how they
00:07:42.340 went so uh first for the validation um the liberals gained zero the bloc gained 79 votes at validation
00:07:49.620 the conservatives gained 18 votes the ndp zero green minus five pbc minus 18 and then next at the recount
00:07:58.740 this is kind of reversed right the libs got 56 more votes at recount the block 11 the conservatives
00:08:05.460 five the ndp four the greens lost two at the recount like what is going on how do you just gain and
00:08:11.460 lose votes like this and then yeah 63 votes were were rejected at the recount i would like to see
00:08:18.820 a picture of all those ballots please i would like to see a scanned picture of each one and an explanation
00:08:24.180 as to why 63 when when you have a seat a writing that was decided by just one vote and 63 were rejected
00:08:32.420 after the fact on the third round of voting yeah you're gonna have to give me some more evidence
00:08:37.220 from that next we have marty up north asking what is going on in quebec so let me just explain this
00:08:43.060 graph to the audience here this is the percentage of rejected ballots by writing and it goes across
00:08:50.260 the country from west to east and so you can just imagine you know the provinces on the west western
00:08:56.740 side of the country british columbia alberta uh and manitoba sketch one over here ontario and then
00:09:02.100 all of a sudden this bit right here that would be quebec that would be quebec and you can see
00:09:06.500 how many more ballots were rejected so why why are they rejecting way more ballots in quebec than the
00:09:12.660 rest of the country i mean these are the kinds of things that really do you know i'm not one for
00:09:18.020 conspiracy theories but when you look at the data and the facts and it just doesn't make sense there has
00:09:23.220 to be an explanation what do you think i think at the end of the day as well you know elections canada
00:09:29.220 let's say that there are let's say that there actually were that many rejected ballots you would
00:09:34.660 think in a democracy of which you want to have transparency and openness to your people that a
00:09:41.540 situation like that and this happens every election this election is uh is quite significant
00:09:46.820 though in terms of the numbers of rejected ballots um the numbers of of writings being flipped i
00:09:52.900 mean typically on average i would say there's maybe one to two writings that get flipped in
00:09:58.100 recounts because recounts happen um and this election has been very interesting in that regard and of
00:10:03.540 course sure it was a very tight race in some areas but you would think that elections canada would
00:10:09.700 would say to themselves oof for lack of better words we have a lot of dumb people voting like you
00:10:15.220 know or or we have a lot of people who really want to send a message and they could actually be hurting
00:10:19.380 the party that they were that they want to be supporting um you would think that there would
00:10:23.860 be something of that and they would say okay guys clearly you don't remember how to vote because you
00:10:28.820 know it's been since what i remember doing a little practice voting session when i was in grade six
00:10:34.100 like you know it's been a while and uh we don't have elections very often so here we're gonna on top
00:10:39.140 of all of these other campaigns and ads that we're running we're going to also include in there this is
00:10:44.020 what it looks like um and i do think as well you know when it comes to voting and you're a registered
00:10:48.980 voter i i'm not totally opposed no that's a lie i am actually in theory if we could do this without
00:10:55.780 elections canada having your personal information i would love it if there was a way where they could
00:11:00.500 be like here was your vote it got rejected and here's why and you get a little slip in the mail but
00:11:05.780 of course i don't want them to have the information of everybody and what party they voted for but it'd be
00:11:10.340 nice in in theory to have something like that because i do think that this comes down much more
00:11:15.540 to something seems weird and if somebody has to explain to you why it's not weird and has to shame
00:11:21.460 you because you think it's weird that's probably because you might be in the right direction i find
00:11:26.820 um and i'm not saying that there's anything conspiratorial about this at the at the very least
00:11:32.980 it's odd and it's completely right to question that it's completely right it's your democratic right
00:11:38.900 to question that to criticize the system um and i wish that there was more i wish that there was
00:11:45.060 more focus on this and more focus you know from people who were a part of of the committees that
00:11:50.580 were going through ballots that were rejected and suddenly now they count and or they counted and
00:11:55.220 suddenly now they're rejected we do need to have a lot more transparency and communication on that front
00:12:00.180 but i highly doubt that's going to happen because instead it ends up being another pawn in the liberal game
00:12:05.220 where they can just shame everybody who who wants to question something that's perfectly open to
00:12:11.220 being questioned because as you've said it's very odd well of course it is i mean and we didn't even
00:12:16.340 get to the fact that they found over 800 special ballots that were not counted out in british columbia
00:12:21.860 port moody because the guy forgot to mail them in or whatever the explanation was i mean when there's
00:12:27.460 this many data points and proof points that something wasn't right yes games have every
00:12:32.420 right to demand answers and let me write you because i mean this is this is a while ago now i had to
00:12:37.460 explain the story to my producers because they're quite young and they weren't paying attention but
00:12:41.140 back in 2011 when stephen harper won his majority the legacy media promoted a years-long conspiracy theory
00:12:49.220 that the election had been stolen and cheated away because of the so-called robocall scandal they
00:12:55.780 imagined that there was a national campaign to call people up and tell them that their polling
00:13:01.300 station had changed and that untold numbers of canadians went to the wrong place and couldn't vote
00:13:06.340 because of this the journalists promoted the story there were hundreds and hundreds of articles
00:13:11.540 that were written accusing the conservatives of stealing the election election denial before trump
00:13:17.620 even did it right and this was being peddled by the ottawa citizen and mainstream media journalists
00:13:23.700 including the cbc who promoted this conspiracy over and over and over again to the point where they
00:13:28.020 did a national inquiry into it and lo and behold there was no evidence and no wrongdoing and it
00:13:34.100 was closed it was not a national conspiracy so when the conservatives win legacy media is more than happy
00:13:39.940 to push the conspiracies and to accuse the conservatives of stealing the election and yet here we are where
00:13:45.860 there's just a whole bunch of really mysterious things that have happened and if anyone talks about it
00:13:50.980 they will point to you and call you an election denier i'm talking of course about the cbc so the cbc
00:13:56.180 rice's hit piece here it is conservatives fundraising email suggests that the liberals are trying to tip
00:14:01.380 the scales in the recount so elections canada act sets out when recounts happen and how they can proceed
00:14:07.460 and they are very mad at the conservative party for sending an email to their followers saying that
00:14:13.540 something is not right here so let me just read a bit from the story free jasmine it says
00:14:16.980 a conservative party fundraising email alleges the liberals are trying to tip the scales in writing recounts
00:14:22.180 language political watchers say is concerning as some canadians say they don't trust the results
00:14:27.300 of last week's election the email sent to the conservatives mailing list on wednesday solicits
00:14:31.940 donations to help us hold the line as recounts play out the liberals are working to flip just
00:14:36.660 enough seats to edge closer to majority we can't let that happen reads the email if we don't act fast we risk
00:14:42.260 losing the gains we made on election night it concludes by saying the liberals are fighting
00:14:46.660 hard to tip the scales and then the cbc goes into total defense mode and just starts talking about how
00:14:53.780 there's nothing to see here everything's fine this is all according to protocol nothing to see here
00:14:59.220 and shame on the conservatives for using basically trumpy language well i'm sorry but there is something
00:15:05.060 amok here and if the conservatives want to send this out to their list to try to fundraise
00:15:09.300 so that they can have more scrutineers right like this is the other thing on election night there's
00:15:13.300 thousands of volunteers across the country that go and they're scrutineers and they watch the vote
00:15:16.900 counts happen but then after that they go back to their lives right they go back to the real world
00:15:21.300 and they don't have time to just volunteer for a political party and so when all of these recounts
00:15:25.380 are happening there isn't necessarily conservative volunteers in every single riding watching it so if
00:15:30.580 the conservatives want to say hey help us raise some money so that we can get people into these
00:15:34.180 places we can get lawyers to oversee it and whatever else that's their prerogative
00:15:38.340 and for the cbc to sort of jump in and say you know how dare these people fundraise off of this
00:15:44.580 and it's it's spreading misinformation and all their favorite buzzwords i mean again we could talk
00:15:49.700 about the cbc on every episode of canis malcolm show but this is this is just again the example of how
00:15:54.340 the cbc just hates the conservatives hates everything they stand for and will find any excuse to write a
00:15:59.220 hit piece about them yeah it is um it's again it you actually pointed it out so brilliantly there where if
00:16:07.940 you just flipped who we were talking about the rhetoric would be so very different and it's
00:16:14.500 incredibly frustrating and it's it's just it's so it's such a lie like that's kind of the only way
00:16:19.540 that i can put it it's a lie with a purpose and that purpose unfortunately has worked um and it's
00:16:25.620 really disappointing when you have and also too you know let's let's keep in mind in this case you know i
00:16:32.980 could see perhaps some people who think that you know the conservatives sending out this message
00:16:38.020 in order to try to get more fundraising is like kind of dangerous to do i mean sure maybe but also
00:16:43.540 what they're wanting more fundraising for is fair and it's democratic and yes you need fundraising in
00:16:48.660 order to survive right uh that's one of the big problems with the ndp right now and why they want
00:16:53.460 to be party status again so bad so i just i just think it's very frustrating and also you know
00:17:01.060 perhaps this is just a little bit of a nuance but in terms of of the language there being that the
00:17:05.540 liberals are trying to tip the scales that doesn't necessarily mean that they're accusing the liberals
00:17:11.540 of trying to to meddle in anything or manipulate anything that could very well mean that you know the
00:17:17.060 liberals are running a campaign to make everybody feel against us and we don't like that like that's fair
00:17:23.140 right whereas i feel like cbc the way that they discussed this and in the article as well was
00:17:27.620 very much more like they were trying to insinuate that the conservatives were calling it a rigged
00:17:33.460 election which they didn't um you know to accuse somebody of trying to tip the scales that could mean
00:17:39.060 a a large a large number of different things and i would say as well again that there is a lot of
00:17:45.780 there's a lot of weird stuff with this one that seems very odd and and it is our right as canadians
00:17:52.500 to hold officials and to hold our government accountable because when we don't
00:17:57.860 like gosh who knows what could happen if we suddenly just stop doing that and so i think
00:18:02.020 for me when it comes to the cbc and the way that they the way that they omit certain details and
00:18:06.900 highlight other details i'm just very tired of what seems to just be this mass psychosis or this attempt
00:18:13.940 at creating mass psychosis um and to make people feel shamed and feel weird for having very normal
00:18:19.540 thoughts when you go through the details there's nothing radical about thinking that it it's just
00:18:24.580 that's you're seeing things that are striking you and uh you're thinking about them and i think that
00:18:29.940 that's a wonderful thing to do well and isn't the cbc curious like what happened to those 63 votes why
00:18:36.980 were they rejected at the recount i mean why are they writing a story about race candace there that's
00:18:42.580 something a journalist would do well yeah like they're they're totally not curious about that but they do
00:18:47.780 very much want to come after the conservatives okay so we got another email from the conservative
00:18:51.060 party and this is this is amusing so they are fighting back and using the cbc story to fundraise
00:18:55.540 even more good for them they say right now we're under attack by the media they write last week we
00:18:59.460 asked for your help to get our top political operatives on the ground to oversee vote recounts
00:19:03.620 in key writings across the country every party can have people on the ground to ensure the recounts
00:19:07.940 are done right and to make sure the process is fair and transparent and let's be clear we're not
00:19:12.500 questioning the results we but we want the recounts to be fair and accurate but now the media is
00:19:18.260 attacking us or twisting our words and trying to get us to back off simply uh simply for covering
00:19:24.340 this um the cbc was quick to put out this article accusing us of nefarious activities and then they
00:19:29.700 show the same headline and basically again it says to chip in to help us we'll never back down okay this
00:19:36.180 is good this is good but this is a part that is sort of like a pet peeve of mine it says let's be
00:19:40.100 clear we're not questioning the results we just want the recounts to be fair and accurate for my
00:19:45.140 player like why aren't you questioning the results like the results are fishy there's some shenanigans
00:19:49.540 going on there 67 i mean a normal recount wouldn't just swing 70 votes one way or another and then end
00:19:55.620 up with the liberals winning by one vote i i mean you should we shouldn't accept the results of that
00:20:01.620 writing we shouldn't and i i think you're right we will probably end up going to a by-election because
00:20:05.940 it will be challenged because you can't have this as a result that stands and to my you know to repeat
00:20:12.980 the way i said on the show yesterday i think the liberals are trying to steal a majority right on
00:20:16.820 election night they lost the majority they have a minority government they had i think election it was
00:20:22.580 like 166 68 and now they're up to 170 they only need 171 really plus a speaker to get a majority so
00:20:29.060 they're almost there they just need to get like one or two people to cross the floor that is a stolen
00:20:33.300 majority they didn't get the majority on election night and they're trying to get it by other means
00:20:37.460 i think it's perfectly fine to point that out and to say it and the conservative shouldn't back down
00:20:41.460 and say oh no don't worry we're not questioning the results we just want to make sure that everything's
00:20:44.660 fair no you have to fight you have to push and you know i i like the idea that they're pointing this
00:20:49.380 out and fundraising on it but i wish they would go even harder yeah i i would agree with that as well
00:20:54.420 and again i think more than anything to to simply just be true to yourself and what you think um it's
00:21:01.780 something i i've talked about this on my show plenty of times i did in yesterday's episode as
00:21:05.380 well but you know one of the reasons why donald trump was so successful why he was so good in
00:21:10.980 in his campaigning despite everything everything against him in that regard and you don't have to
00:21:15.540 like donald trump in order to acknowledge this but the american people voted for him on mass in ways
00:21:22.340 that nobody predicted that everybody was saying wouldn't happen and why is that because donald trump
00:21:27.780 didn't care he didn't care what the media was going to say he didn't care what his opponents
00:21:32.340 were going to say he just said what was on his mind sometimes a little too much but in general
00:21:38.900 he just said what was on his mind and i think that we need to get back to that and if there's any advice
00:21:43.780 that i can give to the conservative party and i have given this to many people who who i'm aware of
00:21:48.740 and friends with or not necessarily friends but acquaintances with who are involved it's that
00:21:53.220 conservatives really need to stop being on defense and we need to start playing offense again let's
00:21:59.940 stop letting everybody else create the narratives let's create the narratives and let's be on offense
00:22:05.860 we need to stop being i just like i can't stress that enough this this whole defensive oh well we're
00:22:11.940 not saying this who cares you don't even need to like they're gonna take you can put that in that
00:22:16.660 article and they're gonna take something out of it anyway to criticize you on it doesn't even
00:22:20.260 matter it doesn't matter what you say to defend yourself they're still running on things that are
00:22:24.820 clearly false that they use to manipulate the masses to win in this election so you need to
00:22:30.420 stop defending those things and you need to start playing offensive that that is my best advice to
00:22:35.540 to everybody really who is in this space and we're not in this space because we're evil hateful people
00:22:40.820 who are just crazy fringe minority conspiracy theorists we're in this space because we live
00:22:46.900 real lives and we know the damage that has been caused and unfortunately like people such as david
00:22:52.980 cochran or rosemary barton whose salaries are upwards of 500 000 a year plus bonuses on your taxpayer dollar
00:22:59.540 we don't have the luxury of being able to witness our economy dwindling we don't have the luxury of
00:23:05.380 being able to witness the division that has been so articulate i'm going to use that word even though
00:23:11.300 it doesn't make sense but so articulately put in place by media by the parties while they go and
00:23:18.180 accuse everybody else of doing exactly what it is that they're doing like we don't have the luxury to
00:23:23.300 not care about the future of our country because we are actually just the average citizen we are people
00:23:30.420 who have businesses we are entrepreneurs we are people who are struggling you know like that's why we
00:23:36.420 land in this way because we are so sick of being lied to and manipulated and taken advantage of
00:23:41.460 and so we need to stop being defensive about how we feel and we need to just say what we think and
00:23:48.980 and not be afraid of the ripple effect and i think that that advice as long as you do so kindly of course
00:23:53.780 it's not nice to be mean to anybody but if you can manage to do that and be wise as a serpent and
00:23:58.980 gentle as a dove in the way that you do it i really do think that there's a lot of hope still for the
00:24:04.180 direction that this country goes in despite every everything else trying to be against you
00:24:09.380 as we clearly see with the cbc on a daily basis no i 100 agree i don't think that we should be
00:24:16.340 explaining i don't we don't have to we don't have to be on defense ever and i think that's
00:24:20.420 so right yeah i'll just share a little personal tidbit um i was on maternity leave i was like basically
00:24:25.780 a stay-at-home mom with my four little kids having a great time and i i was almost reluctant to get
00:24:30.820 back into journalism and it wasn't until justin trudeau resigned that i just felt this like
00:24:36.260 duty basically to come back in and start working again and sort of see my podcast and when i was
00:24:41.620 merging with the countersignal and we were launching judo news uh kian bexty asked me he's
00:24:45.300 like who like you have a pretty good life like what you know why are you doing this why don't you
00:24:49.460 just stay and be a stay-at-home mom with your kids and i really do feel like i have a duty like i i
00:24:54.500 have to right like your moral obligation i really feel that all the time yeah people people ask me
00:25:00.660 like oh well why do you do this because you know you're never going to get through to them and i'm
00:25:04.180 like i don't care if i ever get through to them it is my moral obligation to be true and to follow
00:25:09.540 where my heart is guiding me and to take my time and do my research and make sure that i'm that i'm i
00:25:14.580 have a very high aim and i'm on the right track or at least i'm trying to be better you know um and i and
00:25:21.060 i think that that's kind of how a lot of this works it's like if you if you don't if you sit
00:25:25.940 back and you don't do anything about it it's not going to be a prosperous future that's just you know
00:25:32.420 we have 10 years to show the downward trend of this particular government and these particular
00:25:38.660 ministers so yeah i totally agree with you it's our country and it's our future and for me it's my
00:25:44.740 children's future as well and and i do i have a duty to god and a duty to do the best that i can and i i
00:25:49.860 think that uh you know you're you're on a very similar path introductory jasmine lane i always
00:25:54.740 really appreciate having you on the show thank you so much for your insight thank you so much for
00:26:00.100 having me this was uh this was a good chat i like this we should do this again sometime absolutely
00:26:04.420 all right folks all the time we have for today thank you so much for tuning in we'll be back
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