Juno News - January 11, 2024


CBC justifies church arsons in latest “investigation”


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Since 2021, 96 churches across Canada have been vandalized or set on fire. Why did it take the CBC three years to investigate this issue? And why did they continue to justify the attacks on Canadian Christians as some sort of rational response to Canada's colonial history?

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00:00:00.000 All natives were forced to go to church. 1.00
00:00:03.160 Colonization, right?
00:00:04.940 We were forced to come in here.
00:00:07.080 We were heathens, right?
00:00:08.300 We were savages. 0.95
00:00:09.380 We had to come in here and have the white man save our souls. 0.98
00:00:14.000 That's what we were taught.
00:00:16.260 Finding these unidentified graves, unidentified bodies in the ground there.
00:00:21.380 Of course natives are going to be pissed off. 1.00
00:00:30.000 It's the CBC.
00:00:31.300 I'm hoping none of you were expecting actual journalism.
00:00:34.040 It's only three years too late, but the CBC has finally decided to get around to investigating
00:00:38.740 one of the most heartbreaking stories to come out of Canada in modern times.
00:00:42.560 The string of church arsons right across our country starting in the summer of 2021.
00:00:48.160 In typical CBC fashion, instead of doing actual journalism,
00:00:51.880 the journalists who take our taxpayer money and pump out propaganda disguised as news
00:00:56.120 have decided to excuse and justify the attacks on Canadian churches
00:01:00.420 as some sort of rational response to Canada's colonial history.
00:01:05.120 In other words, Canadian Christians, many of whom are indigenous themselves, had it coming. 1.00
00:01:10.240 True North immediately began reporting on the church arsons when they started happening.
00:01:14.540 Unlike the CBC, who merely copy and pasted much of their reporting
00:01:17.760 from wire services like the Canadian press.
00:01:20.020 To date, since 2021, 96 churches across Canada have been vandalized
00:01:25.900 or set on fire following a string of global media reports which falsely asserted
00:01:30.560 that mass graves and bodies had been found on the sites of former residential schools.
00:01:35.720 Not a single bone has been dug up to confirm these assertions,
00:01:39.220 but at no point in the CBC's, quote, investigation did that important fact come up.
00:01:44.200 And the CBC's disastrous reporting on this issue gets even more egregious.
00:01:48.240 In fact, the church burnings in Canada haven't stopped.
00:01:51.620 In the lead-up to Christmas, just last month, four rural Alberta churches were set on fire.
00:01:57.580 Of the 33 church fires, which were deemed major fires at the time,
00:02:01.500 as in the churches have been irrecoverably ruined,
00:02:04.300 only nine of the 33 fires have led to arrests.
00:02:08.200 Do you think the response from the Canadian government and the Canadian media would have been the same
00:02:11.980 if 96 synagogues had been burned or vandalized in the same way?
00:02:15.500 Or if 96 mosques had been burned or vandalized in this way?
00:02:19.120 I'll leave that question up to you, but I think we all know the answer to that.
00:02:21.780 Before we get into the show, drop a like in the video,
00:02:23.800 help us out by subscribing to the TrueNorth YouTube channel,
00:02:26.280 stick around for the ratio of the week,
00:02:28.040 and the common question for the episode is this.
00:02:31.080 Why did it take the CBC three years to investigate this story?
00:02:35.960 Let me know your answer in the comments below, and let's get into it.
00:02:38.500 Terry Reith was the CBC journalist tasked with investigating the attacks on Christians in this country,
00:02:44.960 the 96 churches which have been burned or vandalized since 2021.
00:02:49.580 But his investigation doesn't seem to be much of an investigation at all.
00:02:53.840 In fact, it seems to be more of an exercise in justification.
00:02:57.000 Calling this reporting investigative journalism would be an insult to the profession,
00:03:00.780 so we're not going to do that.
00:03:01.920 But this reporting from the CBC is broken into two parts.
00:03:04.660 The first is a written story, and the second is a video which aired in The National.
00:03:09.240 Seeing as how nobody watches The National, you probably haven't seen the video.
00:03:12.900 But we're going to show you this video,
00:03:14.400 and notice that the justification of the church burnings begins within the first two seconds.
00:03:20.060 Watch this.
00:03:22.040 All natives were forced to go to church. 1.00
00:03:25.360 Colonization, right?
00:03:26.440 There's no evidence to suggest anywhere that all natives in Canada were forced to attend church services.
00:03:32.560 But, of course, that part makes it into the very first few seconds of this video,
00:03:37.580 titled, Why Dozens of Churches in Canada Have Been Burned and Torched.
00:03:42.080 You might think that the reporting would start with maybe a list of the churches which have been burned,
00:03:46.200 but no, it begins with a falsehood that all natives were forced to attend church services.
00:03:50.820 I mean, I'm pissed at the church.
00:03:52.760 I got no respect for the church.
00:03:55.260 That cross has done so much damage.
00:03:57.800 I mean, caused so much grief and killed so many people, not just native people.
00:04:02.560 And, again, why not just throw another attack on Christians before getting to any actual facts?
00:04:07.840 You've walked up these steps a few times as a child?
00:04:11.200 Yeah, I didn't like it.
00:04:12.340 We were forced to come in here.
00:04:15.720 We were heathens, right?
00:04:17.140 We were savages. 0.95
00:04:18.000 We had to come in here and have the white man save our souls. 0.99
00:04:22.480 Again, a minute and 30 seconds in, more falsehoods.
00:04:26.480 Where's the evidence to suggest that indigenous people on reserves were forced to attend church services that took place in their own reserves?
00:04:34.900 Well, I wasn't upset.
00:04:36.620 I wasn't teary-eyed or anything.
00:04:38.780 I was upset that some res punks did arson.
00:04:42.180 Whoever did it didn't ask for permission from the rest of the community of the chief and council.
00:04:46.600 They did it under the cover of darkness, and I call that arson.
00:04:50.960 You've never found out who did it.
00:04:52.660 Nobody knows who did it.
00:04:54.380 We can guess. 0.64
00:04:56.540 I don't think white people came here and burnt this down. 0.72
00:04:59.880 So there we go.
00:05:01.100 Three years and two minutes and 13 seconds into this video,
00:05:04.840 we finally get to some questions about who might have been responsible for burning this beautiful historic church to the ground.
00:05:12.440 And here, Chief Clarence Louis of the Osoyoos Indian Band in British Columbia believes that the people who burned that church were some res punks, as he calls it,
00:05:20.760 some people who lived on the reserve.
00:05:24.640 The surge in church fires began following the discovery of potential unmarked graves on the site of the former Kamloops Residential School.
00:05:34.000 The news stirred up long, simmering anger and resentment with the church, particularly in the indigenous community.
00:05:41.740 Finding these unidentified graves, unidentified bodies in the ground there,
00:05:47.380 of course the natives are going to be pissed off. 1.00
00:05:49.780 Some punks take, you know, they go out and do stupid things. 0.99
00:05:53.200 I can understand why they did it, but I still don't support it. 0.99
00:05:57.140 This investigation, which is many years too late, would have been far better served if they just stuck with the facts.
00:06:04.800 But by throwing in falsehoods, saying that they found unidentified bodies in the ground, which is not true,
00:06:10.760 just simply serves as a justification for these attacks on Christian churches.
00:06:15.540 And as you saw, and as you already know, most of these churches served indigenous congregants,
00:06:21.620 indigenous Christians who used those churches for generations, willingly.
00:06:26.160 They weren't forced to go, but they wanted to go.
00:06:28.840 Paulina Johnson has been looking into the church fires and why they're happening.
00:06:33.300 I think for many indigenous peoples, it gives them a voice because for the longest time,
00:06:41.420 Canada hasn't really actually acknowledged us.
00:06:43.420 Now, right there, you have a University of Alberta professor, it appears,
00:06:48.000 saying that setting these churches on fire gives the indigenous people a voice
00:06:52.960 because Canadians weren't listening to them.
00:06:55.580 Committing brutal acts of violence that strike at the heart of so many in this country,
00:06:59.820 including indigenous people, gives indigenous Canadians a voice.
00:07:03.860 Very strange.
00:07:05.200 The church fires, they're much more than just arson.
00:07:09.280 It's a greater symbolic kind of narrative of Canada and Canada's relationship to indigenous peoples,
00:07:16.220 which is really lacking.
00:07:18.140 It's on fire because no one's really addressing the truth of what indigenous peoples are facing.
00:07:23.760 So it leads to a larger conversation that needs to be had.
00:07:28.480 So there you have it, excusing the church fires because Canadians aren't listening to the truth 1.00
00:07:32.920 about indigenous people in Canada.
00:07:35.740 Now, what truth exactly aren't Canadians listening to at this point?
00:07:39.780 Sure, the indigenous residential school program is a blight on Canadian history. 1.00
00:07:44.220 Very few people would be willing to justify Canada's historical treatment of indigenous people.
00:07:49.100 But that being said, it appears that much of what we have been taught in Canada about residential schools
00:07:54.100 isn't exactly the truth.
00:07:56.640 According to Nina Green in the Dorchester Review,
00:07:59.620 fewer than one-third of indigenous children at any time throughout the residential school program
00:08:05.080 actually attended residential schools.
00:08:08.340 And by 1950, nearly 90% of status Indian children were attending day schools on their reserves.
00:08:15.900 In 1920, an amendment to the Indian Act made attendance at residential schools compulsory
00:08:21.940 for all status Indian children, but crucially, only if there was no day school on their reserve.
00:08:28.880 During the 1920s, the demand for places in some residential schools continued to exceed the supply.
00:08:34.400 In 1925, for example, Father James McGuire wrote of parents clamoring for their children's admission
00:08:40.600 to the Kamloops Indian Residential School.
00:08:43.180 Because of the continued demand by Indian parents for places for their children in residential schools,
00:08:48.180 as well as the charitable policy in the church-run schools of taking in orphaned and destitute children
00:08:52.980 and children from broken homes, residential schools were largely filled to capacity during the 1920s,
00:08:58.920 and the compulsory attendance provisions of the Indian Act continued to be more honored in the breach
00:09:02.980 than the observance.
00:09:04.560 And this is according to data from the Department of Indian Affairs.
00:09:07.180 Between 1908 and 1955, the highest recorded attendance rate of status Indian children in residential school programs
00:09:14.740 was only ever just above 40%.
00:09:18.740 Mind you, status Indian does not include MĂ©tis or Inuit.
00:09:23.500 So when people say that all indigenous children were forced to attend residential schools,
00:09:28.020 that's just not backed up by the facts.
00:09:30.120 And here, between 1910 and 1952, you can see a steady increase in status Indian children being enrolled in day schools.
00:09:39.320 These are schools that are on reserve land, and students go home at the end of the day to their parents.
00:09:44.700 I want to stress that the reason for showing you these facts is not to try and justify the residential school program
00:09:51.520 as the CVC and other activists have justified church burnings.
00:09:55.180 I'm merely trying to show you that much of what we have been told about the Indian residential school program
00:09:59.940 isn't actually true.
00:10:01.780 In the written report of CBC's, quote, investigation,
00:10:05.320 you will find one of the most outrageous things I've read in the CBC,
00:10:09.140 which is quite a high bar, to be honest.
00:10:11.200 Once you scroll past the trigger warning at the top of the article,
00:10:14.120 you will come to a paragraph where CBC's intent to justify these church burnings becomes very clear.
00:10:20.320 Some researchers and community leaders suggest that Canada's colonial history
00:10:24.260 and recent discoveries of potential burial sites at former residential schools may have lit the fuse.
00:10:30.780 Interesting, because I feel like maybe the CBC's false reporting and the New York Times' false reporting
00:10:35.960 and the many legacy media articles published about the so-called findings,
00:10:40.640 which were not actually true at all,
00:10:42.260 which probably had more to do with lighting the fuse than Canada's colonial history.
00:10:46.280 Furthermore, maybe it was Gerald Butts, Justin Trudeau's former principal secretary,
00:10:51.820 justifying the attacks on Christians on Twitter.
00:10:54.500 Maybe it was Harsha Walia, the former B.C. Civil Liberties Union head,
00:10:58.600 who said on Twitter,
00:10:59.860 burn it all down.
00:11:01.300 Reckless reporting and cheering on acts of criminal violence
00:11:04.620 had more to do with this than Canada's colonial history,
00:11:07.820 but not according to the CBC.
00:11:09.520 Now, social media lit up after the CBC published this investigation into the church burnings.
00:11:15.260 I want to highlight David Mulroney, Canada's former ambassador to China,
00:11:19.800 who wrote this on Twitter over CBC's really shoddy reporting here.
00:11:24.640 Journalism CBC style.
00:11:26.880 We finally learn more about the shockingly widespread arson,
00:11:30.720 but are advised that Canada's colonial history and recent discoveries of potential burial sites
00:11:35.640 at former residential schools may have lit the fuse.
00:11:38.800 He goes on,
00:11:39.500 arson is a potentially deadly crime
00:11:41.880 and a profoundly cruel means of terrorizing a community.
00:11:45.720 It cannot be justified or explained,
00:11:47.920 a sentiment that is widely shared,
00:11:49.780 but significantly underreported by ideologically driven media.
00:11:54.020 Very well said.
00:11:55.140 Here was a quote from another ex-user.
00:11:56.920 This is journalism in Canada, paid for by the taxpayer.
00:12:00.980 Day late and a dollar short after 70 plus Christian churches were set ablaze.
00:12:05.700 Literally over a year later and still happening today.
00:12:09.260 Punchline?
00:12:10.220 White Christian colonists had it coming. 1.00
00:12:12.760 Investigative reporter Sam Cooper also chimed in.
00:12:15.860 More likely that BC Civil Liberties Union director said that burn it all down lit the fuse.
00:12:20.960 Strangely enough, the same person that recently applauded Hamas hang gliders.
00:12:24.440 And Chris Tomlinson over at the European Conservative wrote this.
00:12:28.560 This CBC report on the anti-Christian church fires essentially defends them
00:12:32.460 and supports them as justified anger from aboriginals instead of anti-Christian hate.
00:12:37.400 Screw the CBC.
00:12:38.800 And he follows it up by saying this. 0.99
00:12:40.780 The CBC's Terry Reith produced this garbage and not once 0.99
00:12:44.100 pushed back on any of the anti-Catholic and anti-Christian nonsense presented in it. 0.99
00:12:49.280 Now, Justin Trudeau did condemn the church fires
00:12:51.640 as when they were happening at a significant rate in 2021.
00:12:55.160 But interestingly, there's been no government inquiry into what's going on.
00:12:59.280 Seeing as how many of these arsons are an open case and there's been no culprit found,
00:13:03.740 you might think that a government inquiry into
00:13:05.740 what's been going on against Christians in this country might be worthwhile. 1.00
00:13:09.520 But no, nobody really seems that interested in getting to the bottom of what's been going on.
00:13:14.160 This reporting was many years too late from the CBC.
00:13:16.920 And brushing it off and saying better late than never doesn't really count.
00:13:21.180 The taxpayer gives the CBC money with the expectation that they will tell the news accurately
00:13:26.820 and timely and give us the facts and not justify violence and criminal behavior.
00:13:32.660 Is it really any surprise that the CBC is failing at this point?
00:13:35.420 Despite getting billions of dollars every year from the government,
00:13:39.040 they're still laying off journalists.
00:13:40.560 They still have to downsize.
00:13:42.100 Nobody watches them.
00:13:43.000 Nobody reads them.
00:13:44.040 No Canadians trust the CBC.
00:13:45.680 Maybe it's because they produce work like this.
00:13:49.100 Ratio of the week time.
00:13:50.220 The winner this week is the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:13:52.800 You know, it's been a tough week for the Liberals.
00:13:54.560 The week started off when Chrystia Freeland had David Menzies of Rebel News arrested
00:13:58.820 for simply asking her some questions.
00:14:00.980 It turns out that you're not allowed to actually ask Liberal cabinet ministers
00:14:03.840 questions they don't want to answer.
00:14:05.960 Freedom of the press, it appears, is a one-way street, but you already all knew that.
00:14:09.780 In perfect timing, as the Liberals often do,
00:14:12.120 as they were being blasted all over the world for having David Menzies arrested,
00:14:16.540 well, the Liberals followed up by making a campaign post on X a few days later
00:14:21.840 when they compared Pierre Polyev's handling of the media to Donald Trump.
00:14:26.680 Take a look at this video they posted.
00:14:28.420 Here's how Pierre Polyev treats Canada's free press.
00:14:31.260 Remind you of anyone?
00:14:32.120 If it was unclear for anyone, the Liberal strategy for 2024 is to try and compare
00:14:37.200 Pierre Polyev to Donald Trump.
00:14:39.040 They think that's going to be some sort of winning strategy.
00:14:41.460 Maybe it will help them in the polls.
00:14:43.180 I doubt it, but they're going to try.
00:14:45.180 I doubt it because it appears Canadians aren't buying it one bit.
00:14:48.940 6.4 thousand replies to only 3.2 thousand likes.
00:14:53.620 A serious ratio here.
00:14:55.260 Calling out Pierre Polyev for being a little confrontational toward a biased and paid-off Liberal
00:15:00.240 Press, when you had a journalist arrested for asking you a question, is quite rich.
00:15:07.320 Even for the Liberals, I'm surprised they let this post go public.
00:15:10.880 By the way, has Donald Trump ever had a reporter arrested for asking him questions?
00:15:15.520 Has Pierre Polyev ever had a reporter arrested for asking him questions?
00:15:19.620 I know that Andrew Scheer and Melissa Lansman did the same to Rebel News reporters,
00:15:23.960 but I'm talking specifically about Pierre Polyev here.
00:15:26.800 Not that I know of.
00:15:27.700 This from Rebel News videographer Efren Monsanto.
00:15:31.320 The Liberals have absolutely no shame.
00:15:34.440 This from Rob Primo.
00:15:35.880 We get it.
00:15:36.680 Rather than denounce the federal police for grabbing a journalist by the throat and smashing
00:15:40.660 him into a wall for asking a question and arresting him, you would rather deflect that
00:15:44.520 attention elsewhere. 0.99
00:15:45.740 Not going to happen, you communist criminals. 0.99
00:15:48.780 And this from another user. 0.96
00:15:50.780 Your regime is jailing journalists who don't please you.
00:15:54.120 Yeah, I don't know about you, but I'd rather some pushback against bought and paid for
00:15:58.480 propagandists rather than having a government literally arresting journalists for asking
00:16:03.520 tough questions.
00:16:04.660 It's unbelievable that that's where we're at.
00:16:06.760 And shame on the RCMP.
00:16:08.320 All right, everyone, that's going to do it for us this week on the show.
00:16:10.400 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:16:11.900 My name is Harrison Faulkner, and this is Ratio.
00:16:14.660 We'll be right back.