Juno News - September 14, 2021CBC town hall shows why O’Toole must defund the CBC
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In this episode, Candice talks about the ridiculous amount of left-wing questions asked at Erin O'Toole's Town Hall debate, and why she thinks it's a red flag for Canada's next Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau.
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Conservative leader Erin O'Toole takes part in an insane left-wing town hall on CBC,
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proving once and for all why he must follow through with a pledge to defund Canada's state broadcaster.
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I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.
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Hi everyone, happy Monday. Thank you so much for tuning into the show.
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So it is Monday, one more week until election day, seven more days before Canadians will go to the polls,
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cast their ballot and determine who will be the next Prime Minister of Canada.
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We have a really exciting live show planned for next Monday.
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We're going to be breaking it all down. We will have breaking news.
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We'll be letting you know the results as they come in.
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We also have special guests, lots of analysis, lots of opinion.
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You're going to want to tune in and check that out.
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It will be streaming live on Facebook and YouTube.
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So make sure you tune in for part or the whole evening will be there right until the end.
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And until then, we will be following the election very closely.
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We have an episode of this show coming out every day this week, just like we have throughout the entire election.
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We also have lots of breaking news and exclusive stories over at TNC.news.
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So you're going to want to check that out and continue to keep your eye on TNC.news to stay informed about the election,
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to see the other side of the story, to hear reports that the legacy media is ignoring,
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and also reports about that biased legacy media because no one else is doing it.
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So if you've been watching TNC, watching the Candace Malcolm show, or you tuned in at all last week 20 of our coverage,
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you'll know that I am very critical of the Debates Commission,
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very critical of the way that the debates have been organized for this election.
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I think it's been a total disservice to Canadians to just have that one lousy English debate,
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the debate that was just so chock full of left-wing causes, pet issues.
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It was framed entirely around liberal issues, and the way that it was structured, it was so hard to follow.
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They were bouncing back and forth about the issues.
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They weren't really letting Trudeau and O'Toole duke it out.
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They kept changing the subject or allowing one of the other leaders to interject,
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even though those other leaders are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to the possibility of becoming prime minister.
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So we had the privately organized one on TVA, which is a large French-language news station,
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and then we had the French debate on Wednesday.
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So a lot of Canadians are wondering, why do French-Canadians get two debates, English-Canadians only get one?
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All three of the debates were hosted in Quebec, so not really representative of the rest of the country.
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Well, instead of more debates, we had a different kind of format.
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So in theory, I like the idea of a town hall, because it allows for a leader to be grilled,
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to get deeper into the issues, and this one was billed as an opportunity to speak to undecided voters.
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So presumably voters who might potentially vote for you, people who are on the fence.
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When you think of undecided voters, you think of someone who, in some universe, might vote conservative.
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So the four undecided voters that the CBC found to ask Erin O'Toole questions were all pretty openly left-wing.
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They were all pretty openly progressive voters,
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and the issues that they were asking about, the things they cared about, were things that liberal voters care about.
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Now, we know this because True North commissioned our own poll last week.
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I was joined by Hamish Marshall, who helped break down that poll.
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But one of the things that we learned is that depending on whether you're leaning liberal to vote liberal
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or leaning conservative to vote conservative, you care about very, very different issues in this election.
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So if you were a liberal, according to our poll, you told us that the issues you care about are COVID-19 and climate change.
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Those are the two big issues for liberal voters.
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If you're a conservative voter or leaning conservative, the things that you care about are government debt and spending and jobs and the economy.
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And you can see by this town hall that the CBC did that it was framed entirely around the left-wing issues,
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the things that liberals care about, which is entirely what we've come to expect from the CBC.
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So there really were two big red flags about this town hall for Erin O'Toole.
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I said I like the concept in theory, but of course the CBC trusts the CBC to mess things up and make it awful.
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So the first red flag is really just that it was organized by the CBC.
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They have a far-left editorial position, and they're run by the government.
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So their default position is always more government, federal government's job, spend more money, very top-down in their way of thinking.
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The second red flag is that this event was hosted by none other than Rosemary Barton.
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Rosemary Barton is a huge fan of Justin Trudeau.
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She's done loving interviews with him, where she basically fawns all over him and throws him softball questions.
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She's pretty open about how much she likes Justin Trudeau.
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And she's also pretty open about the fact that she is a partisan liberal.
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The way that she views the world, the way that she frames her questions,
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is always from the liberal perspective, using liberal spin and liberal talking points.
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And on top of all that, the CBC and Rosemary Barton hate conservatives so much
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that they actually sued the Conservative Party during the 2019 election.
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It was over CBC claiming that there is copyright infringement
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because the conservatives used a clip of Rosemary Barton in a conservative political ad.
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This is such a common practice where political parties take a clip from a news show
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to demonstrate something during an election that the judge threw this out.
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And yet somehow Rosemary Barton comes out the other end, still pretending to be a neutral, unbiased journalist.
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I think most Canadians see through that, and especially most Conservative voters, know better.
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So I won't walk you through the entire town hall because it was so tedious
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But I will just point out a couple of the questions that were asked.
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So again, as I noted, the things that Conservatives care about are jobs, the economy, and government spending.
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None of that was really covered in this debate.
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Instead, we heard from one voter who openly said that the top issues that he cared about
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Again, not issues that matter at all to Conservatives, according to the poll that we did.
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And the question that he ultimately asked was about childcare.
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This election, like previous elections, issues such as climate change and reconciliation
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But for the first time ever, the issue of childcare will also be a huge issue, helping decide who gets my vote.
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So Mr. O'Toole, what I'd like to hear from you is concrete solutions that your party is going to bring forward
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to deal with the growing cost of childcare, particularly in Canada's big cities.
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Again, I'm kind of hoping to know what your definition of the low-income bracket is.
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And again, the only reason that childcare is a big issue in this election is because it's part of the liberal government's platform.
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They're running on a campaign to massively increase the amount of money that they transfer to the provinces.
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Now, childcare is not a federal issue. It's a local issue, if anything. It's a provincial issue.
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The idea that we should have a federal program sort of implies that the solution that would work for people who live in downtown Toronto
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would be the same thing that works for people who live in smaller towns across the prairies.
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And secondary, it's based on this sort of pie-in-the-sky idea that everyone across the country can have the exact same daycare,
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that we're going to model it after the Quebec system where everyone pays $10 a day.
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The Quebec system doesn't even work. There's huge lineups, and not everyone gets in.
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So we're taking a provincial model that doesn't really work in Quebec, magnifying it so that it's across the whole country,
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and just assuming it will work, even though it didn't even work on the smaller scale.
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Of course, none of that is mentioned, and Aaron O'Toole is just held to the impossible standard of Justin Trudeau,
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And then, of course, Rosemary Barton comes in with the liberal talking points, the liberal spin.
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The liberal plan is to create a national childcare program across the country.
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It could apply to shift workers. It doesn't have to be in schools.
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So I guess I would go back to my question then around spaces.
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You say it's going to be sort of the market that will create the...
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Surely that's going to take just as long as the liberals promised to create spaces over...
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You can just see how she's not a conservative in any way,
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and she's just so skeptical and resentful of the conservative worldview.
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Like, her worldview is so top-down that it has to be government-created.
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Aaron O'Toole sort of flips that over and says,
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Hey, look, we'll give more subsidies directly to parents.
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And then they'll have more money to put towards their own childcare spots,
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And then, in turn, more daycares will open and more spots will be created.
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Taylor is a transgender woman from Winnipeg, so a biological male.
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And her question is about what Aaron O'Toole is going to do to end bigotry and transphobia.
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And while, of course, we don't want to have bigotry in our society,
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and we don't want for an individual to feel like they don't have their rights,
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there's just so many other issues in the country.
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The fact that they found this one individual who's very much an outlier,
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her issues are very different than the average issue of the average Canadian.
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It just shows you the mind frame of the producers over at the CBC,
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Hey, let's find a transgender person and basically have them shame Aaron O'Toole
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and how Canadians are hateful and bigoted and all this kind of stuff.
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I feel sorry for this individual, but this is not a federal issue.
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I'm a 40-year-old transgender woman from Winnipeg, Manitoba.
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Listen, Canadians are increasingly intolerant towards two-spirit, transgender and non-binary individuals.
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And Canada is not doing enough to give us the quality of living that we have the right to.
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Like, I mean, all marginalized Canadians have a right to dignity, to respect, to safety.
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But we're surrounded by abuse that's rooted in fear and archaic beliefs.
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It's supported by systemic oppression and structural violence.
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Like, as a transgender woman, my lived experience includes being stalked, harassed, defamed regularly by a network of bigots.
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So, as a leader, what do you plan to do to end bigotry and transphobia
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and ensure for all marginalized Canadians the dignity, respect, and safety that is long overdue?
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And, of course, Rosemary Barton jumps in to make it so much worse.
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So, first, she completely botches what Bill C-6 was, the whole idea.
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And the whole reason that the Conservatives opposed it is because it was so broad and overreaching
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that, basically, it would needlessly criminalize the ability of a person to have normal conversations.
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Normal conversations between children and parents, children and teachers, when it came to transphobia.
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So, this entire bill was created as a liberal trap, a wedge issue for Conservatives
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because they knew that Conservatives would say,
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hey, this bill goes too far, we have an amendment, let's change it.
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So, again, this is very much a liberal trap, and Rosemary Barton just sets it up
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and the Liberals have been very, very dishonest of the CBC to include this in this way.
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This was a piece of legislation that would make it illegal for people to be forced into conversion therapy
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A majority of the Conservatives, 62 MPs, voted against that.
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If you are such a good leader, if you really can lead by example,
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convince people in your caucus this is the right way forward,
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Okay, and the next question comes from an individual named Grace in Edmonton,
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no occupation listed, and, of course, she just cares about climate change.
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Again, if you're a Liberal voter, you care a lot about climate change.
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If you're a Conservative voter, less than 10% of Conservative voters that we talked to in our poll
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you have Conservatives in your caucus, what are you going to do with them?
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Basically asking, how Liberal are you going to govern?
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So I'll be basing my vote around the kind of government that we will elect
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because that would be hugely important to the steps we do or don't take
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My question to the leader of the Conservatives is around the party that he leads
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and what kind of government him and that party will form if they are to win.
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But my question is, given that your party and some of its members have,
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in some cases in the past, taken some very different positions,
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how will you, if you form government, handle party or even caucus members
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who may feel your views aren't Conservative enough?
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I did read that a couple months ago back at the Policy Convention
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that a majority of the delegates did vote to reject adding statements like
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So just using that as an example of perhaps a more delicate issue
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within the party, how will you kind of deal with that?
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And finally, we just did a little montage of Rosemary Barton
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because she had the opportunity to jump in on each of the individual questions
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and then she came and created her own line of questioning,
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which again, really is just a one-on-one with a Liberal activist.
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You have to update the targets after two years.
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But how is restricting the Beretta storm weapon used at the Dawson College
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What is the political decision that goes into restricting that firearm?
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On what planet does that firearm need to be part of what is allowed in this country?
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That doesn't sound like someone that's going to go around
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So if you are Prime Minister, can someone pay to get access to a service
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faster than the rest of us who have to be on the wait list?
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You say often that Justin Trudeau says one thing and does another.
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As Grace has pointed out, the same thing could be said of you.
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whether it be some of your comments around guns,
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Sometimes I don't even know where you stand on an issue, to be frank.
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And it sounds like Grace is in the same place as me.
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If provinces want to allow for people to pay for services and not wait in line,
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will you allow that to happen as Prime Minister?
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But that, to me, that kind of language doesn't seem to be
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Do you feel like at times during the leadership run
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Why not require people to be vaccinated to get on a plane or a train?
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and worry if the person next to me is or isn't?
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and you want people to get vaccinated, you've said it,
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why is it their right to come on a plane or a train and it's not mine?
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instead of ones that we know that we will meet?
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Because most people believe that we are now going to meet the emissions, the 30%.
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Look, I'm for journalists asking politicians tough questions.
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The problem here is that this didn't feel like an interview
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It felt like a liberal activist peppering a conservative politician
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with unfair, biased questions, leading questions,
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and really just the framing, the spin, the talking points.
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I don't think a conservative stands a chance in an environment like this.
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And this is why I don't think the conservatives should even bother to do events like this.
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Because what ends up happening is that Aaron O'Toole,
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just to survive the interview and being in the hot seat,
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Because if you're a conservative voter on the fence
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you know, just trying to answer those questions in a fair way,
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which is why this event is the best example of why.
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he must immediately follow through with that pledge
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I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
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I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm.