Juno News - September 14, 2021


CBC town hall shows why O’Toole must defund the CBC


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

196.94656

Word Count

3,354

Sentence Count

187

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.300 Conservative leader Erin O'Toole takes part in an insane left-wing town hall on CBC,
00:00:04.640 proving once and for all why he must follow through with a pledge to defund Canada's state broadcaster.
00:00:09.260 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:16.220 Hi everyone, happy Monday. Thank you so much for tuning into the show.
00:00:19.440 So it is Monday, one more week until election day, seven more days before Canadians will go to the polls,
00:00:24.660 cast their ballot and determine who will be the next Prime Minister of Canada.
00:00:28.380 We have a really exciting live show planned for next Monday.
00:00:31.680 We're going to be breaking it all down. We will have breaking news.
00:00:35.060 We'll be letting you know the results as they come in.
00:00:38.040 We also have special guests, lots of analysis, lots of opinion.
00:00:41.360 You're going to want to tune in and check that out.
00:00:44.120 It will be streaming live on Facebook and YouTube.
00:00:46.860 So make sure you tune in for part or the whole evening will be there right until the end.
00:00:52.300 And until then, we will be following the election very closely.
00:00:54.640 We have an episode of this show coming out every day this week, just like we have throughout the entire election.
00:01:00.000 We also have lots of breaking news and exclusive stories over at TNC.news.
00:01:04.620 Really wall-to-wall coverage.
00:01:05.940 So you're going to want to check that out and continue to keep your eye on TNC.news to stay informed about the election,
00:01:12.380 to see the other side of the story, to hear reports that the legacy media is ignoring,
00:01:16.160 and also reports about that biased legacy media because no one else is doing it.
00:01:20.440 So if you've been watching TNC, watching the Candace Malcolm show, or you tuned in at all last week 20 of our coverage,
00:01:25.720 you'll know that I am very critical of the Debates Commission,
00:01:28.820 very critical of the way that the debates have been organized for this election.
00:01:32.660 I think it's been a total disservice to Canadians to just have that one lousy English debate,
00:01:38.160 the debate that was just so chock full of left-wing causes, pet issues.
00:01:42.640 It was framed entirely around liberal issues, and the way that it was structured, it was so hard to follow.
00:01:48.320 They were bouncing back and forth about the issues.
00:01:50.440 They weren't really letting Trudeau and O'Toole duke it out.
00:01:52.940 They kept changing the subject or allowing one of the other leaders to interject,
00:01:57.140 even though those other leaders are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to the possibility of becoming prime minister.
00:02:03.220 So it was just really, really silly.
00:02:05.060 On top of that, we had two French debates.
00:02:07.580 So we had the privately organized one on TVA, which is a large French-language news station,
00:02:11.580 and then we had the French debate on Wednesday.
00:02:14.220 So a lot of Canadians are wondering, why do French-Canadians get two debates, English-Canadians only get one?
00:02:19.340 All three of the debates were hosted in Quebec, so not really representative of the rest of the country.
00:02:24.700 Well, instead of more debates, we had a different kind of format.
00:02:27.980 CBC hosted a town hall.
00:02:30.100 So in theory, I like the idea of a town hall, because it allows for a leader to be grilled,
00:02:35.060 to get deeper into the issues, and this one was billed as an opportunity to speak to undecided voters.
00:02:40.080 So presumably voters who might potentially vote for you, people who are on the fence.
00:02:44.380 When you think of undecided voters, you think of someone who, in some universe, might vote conservative.
00:02:49.080 So the four undecided voters that the CBC found to ask Erin O'Toole questions were all pretty openly left-wing.
00:02:55.000 They were all pretty openly progressive voters,
00:02:56.940 and the issues that they were asking about, the things they cared about, were things that liberal voters care about.
00:03:02.100 Now, we know this because True North commissioned our own poll last week.
00:03:05.440 We released it.
00:03:05.960 I was joined by Hamish Marshall, who helped break down that poll.
00:03:09.620 But one of the things that we learned is that depending on whether you're leaning liberal to vote liberal
00:03:15.240 or leaning conservative to vote conservative, you care about very, very different issues in this election.
00:03:20.360 So if you were a liberal, according to our poll, you told us that the issues you care about are COVID-19 and climate change.
00:03:26.760 Those are the two big issues for liberal voters.
00:03:28.660 If you're a conservative voter or leaning conservative, the things that you care about are government debt and spending and jobs and the economy.
00:03:36.200 So really two different things.
00:03:38.300 And you can see by this town hall that the CBC did that it was framed entirely around the left-wing issues,
00:03:43.640 the things that liberals care about, which is entirely what we've come to expect from the CBC.
00:03:47.780 So there really were two big red flags about this town hall for Erin O'Toole.
00:03:51.320 I said I like the concept in theory, but of course the CBC trusts the CBC to mess things up and make it awful.
00:03:57.340 So the first red flag is really just that it was organized by the CBC.
00:04:00.580 They have a far-left editorial position, and they're run by the government.
00:04:04.200 So their default position is always more government, federal government's job, spend more money, very top-down in their way of thinking.
00:04:11.280 The second red flag is that this event was hosted by none other than Rosemary Barton.
00:04:16.160 Rosemary Barton is a huge fan of Justin Trudeau.
00:04:18.660 She's done loving interviews with him, where she basically fawns all over him and throws him softball questions.
00:04:24.740 She's taken selfies with him.
00:04:26.520 She's pretty open about how much she likes Justin Trudeau.
00:04:29.900 And she's also pretty open about the fact that she is a partisan liberal.
00:04:33.540 The way that she views the world, the way that she frames her questions,
00:04:36.240 is always from the liberal perspective, using liberal spin and liberal talking points.
00:04:41.220 And on top of all that, the CBC and Rosemary Barton hate conservatives so much
00:04:44.980 that they actually sued the Conservative Party during the 2019 election.
00:04:48.800 It was over CBC claiming that there is copyright infringement
00:04:52.100 because the conservatives used a clip of Rosemary Barton in a conservative political ad.
00:04:57.220 This is such a common practice where political parties take a clip from a news show
00:05:02.040 to demonstrate something during an election that the judge threw this out.
00:05:06.580 So the CBC ended up losing the lawsuit.
00:05:08.980 The Conservatives ended up winning.
00:05:10.240 And yet somehow Rosemary Barton comes out the other end, still pretending to be a neutral, unbiased journalist.
00:05:16.480 I think most Canadians see through that, and especially most Conservative voters, know better.
00:05:21.880 So I won't walk you through the entire town hall because it was so tedious
00:05:25.760 and I wouldn't want to subject you to that.
00:05:28.240 But I will just point out a couple of the questions that were asked.
00:05:31.480 So again, as I noted, the things that Conservatives care about are jobs, the economy, and government spending.
00:05:36.500 None of that was really covered in this debate.
00:05:38.300 Instead, we heard from one voter who openly said that the top issues that he cared about
00:05:42.780 were climate change and reconciliation.
00:05:45.040 Again, not issues that matter at all to Conservatives, according to the poll that we did.
00:05:49.680 And the question that he ultimately asked was about childcare.
00:05:52.860 This election, like previous elections, issues such as climate change and reconciliation
00:05:58.580 will be big issues for me.
00:06:01.200 But for the first time ever, the issue of childcare will also be a huge issue, helping decide who gets my vote.
00:06:10.760 So Mr. O'Toole, what I'd like to hear from you is concrete solutions that your party is going to bring forward
00:06:17.880 to deal with the growing cost of childcare, particularly in Canada's big cities.
00:06:23.180 Again, I'm kind of hoping to know what your definition of the low-income bracket is.
00:06:29.280 Where is your cutoff for low-income families?
00:06:32.820 Can you put a number to that, Mr. O'Toole?
00:06:35.040 Numbers seem to be your platforms then.
00:06:36.880 And again, the only reason that childcare is a big issue in this election is because it's part of the liberal government's platform.
00:06:44.120 They're running on a campaign to massively increase the amount of money that they transfer to the provinces.
00:06:48.940 Now, childcare is not a federal issue. It's a local issue, if anything. It's a provincial issue.
00:06:54.680 The idea that we should have a federal program sort of implies that the solution that would work for people who live in downtown Toronto
00:07:00.680 would be the same thing that works for people who live in smaller towns across the prairies.
00:07:05.240 It really is kind of silly.
00:07:06.760 And secondary, it's based on this sort of pie-in-the-sky idea that everyone across the country can have the exact same daycare,
00:07:12.500 that we're going to model it after the Quebec system where everyone pays $10 a day.
00:07:16.360 The Quebec system doesn't even work. There's huge lineups, and not everyone gets in.
00:07:19.900 So we're taking a provincial model that doesn't really work in Quebec, magnifying it so that it's across the whole country,
00:07:25.920 and just assuming it will work, even though it didn't even work on the smaller scale.
00:07:29.640 Of course, none of that is mentioned, and Aaron O'Toole is just held to the impossible standard of Justin Trudeau,
00:07:34.380 which he himself hasn't even met.
00:07:36.360 And then, of course, Rosemary Barton comes in with the liberal talking points, the liberal spin.
00:07:40.640 The liberal plan is to create a national childcare program across the country.
00:07:43.740 It could apply to shift workers. It doesn't have to be in schools.
00:07:47.340 So I guess I would go back to my question then around spaces.
00:07:50.940 You say it's going to be sort of the market that will create the...
00:07:53.420 How long is that going to take?
00:07:54.600 Surely that's going to take just as long as the liberals promised to create spaces over...
00:07:58.020 You can just see how she's not a conservative in any way,
00:08:01.560 and she's just so skeptical and resentful of the conservative worldview.
00:08:05.840 She's so skeptical of markets.
00:08:07.440 Like, her worldview is so top-down that it has to be government-created.
00:08:10.900 Aaron O'Toole sort of flips that over and says,
00:08:13.140 Hey, look, we'll give more subsidies directly to parents.
00:08:15.720 We'll give tax breaks.
00:08:16.800 And then they'll have more money to put towards their own childcare spots,
00:08:19.760 choosing what's best for them.
00:08:21.860 And then, in turn, more daycares will open and more spots will be created.
00:08:26.560 So the next question comes from Taylor.
00:08:28.320 Taylor is a transgender woman from Winnipeg, so a biological male.
00:08:32.500 And her question is about what Aaron O'Toole is going to do to end bigotry and transphobia.
00:08:38.940 Let me just say this.
00:08:40.360 First of all, this is a very niche issue.
00:08:41.900 This is not top of mind to most Canadians.
00:08:44.420 And while, of course, we don't want to have bigotry in our society,
00:08:47.700 and we don't want for an individual to feel like they don't have their rights,
00:08:51.600 or their rights aren't protected,
00:08:52.980 there's just so many other issues in the country.
00:08:54.800 There's so much else going on.
00:08:56.020 The fact that they found this one individual who's very much an outlier,
00:08:59.700 her issues are very different than the average issue of the average Canadian.
00:09:03.280 It just shows you the mind frame of the producers over at the CBC,
00:09:06.020 what they think is important.
00:09:07.040 Hey, let's find a transgender person and basically have them shame Aaron O'Toole
00:09:11.120 and talk about how horrible Canadians are
00:09:13.500 and how Canadians are hateful and bigoted and all this kind of stuff.
00:09:17.080 Look, this is just so out of touch.
00:09:18.740 I feel sorry for this individual, but this is not a federal issue.
00:09:22.140 This isn't the top of mind in an election.
00:09:24.620 And it's just a little cringy to watch.
00:09:27.000 Hi, my name is Taylor.
00:09:28.340 I'm a 40-year-old transgender woman from Winnipeg, Manitoba.
00:09:30.820 Listen, Canadians are increasingly intolerant towards two-spirit, transgender and non-binary individuals.
00:09:37.360 And Canada is not doing enough to give us the quality of living that we have the right to.
00:09:41.440 Like, I mean, all marginalized Canadians have a right to dignity, to respect, to safety.
00:09:46.660 But we're surrounded by abuse that's rooted in fear and archaic beliefs.
00:09:51.200 It's fueled by misinformation.
00:09:53.320 It's supported by systemic oppression and structural violence.
00:09:57.040 Like, as a transgender woman, my lived experience includes being stalked, harassed, defamed regularly by a network of bigots.
00:10:04.960 I've received death threats.
00:10:06.840 Like, in what universe is this acceptable?
00:10:09.140 So, as a leader, what do you plan to do to end bigotry and transphobia
00:10:13.940 and ensure for all marginalized Canadians the dignity, respect, and safety that is long overdue?
00:10:21.600 And, of course, Rosemary Barton jumps in to make it so much worse.
00:10:24.740 So, first, she completely botches what Bill C-6 was, the whole idea.
00:10:28.540 This is the conversion therapy ban.
00:10:30.460 And the whole reason that the Conservatives opposed it is because it was so broad and overreaching
00:10:35.040 that, basically, it would needlessly criminalize the ability of a person to have normal conversations.
00:10:40.940 Normal conversations between children and parents, children and teachers, when it came to transphobia.
00:10:47.260 So, this entire bill was created as a liberal trap, a wedge issue for Conservatives
00:10:52.260 because they knew that Conservatives would say,
00:10:54.280 hey, this bill goes too far, we have an amendment, let's change it.
00:10:57.000 The Liberals struck that down.
00:10:58.240 So, again, this is very much a liberal trap, and Rosemary Barton just sets it up
00:11:03.080 and follows all the Liberal talking points,
00:11:05.440 and the Liberals have been very, very dishonest of the CBC to include this in this way.
00:11:10.180 This was a piece of legislation that would make it illegal for people to be forced into conversion therapy
00:11:15.220 to deny them or try to erase who they are.
00:11:18.920 A majority of the Conservatives, 62 MPs, voted against that.
00:11:24.040 You voted for it.
00:11:25.020 You believe that the ban should go in place.
00:11:27.440 If you are such a good leader, if you really can lead by example,
00:11:32.880 convince people in your caucus this is the right way forward,
00:11:35.380 is this not evidence that you can't do it?
00:11:37.180 Okay, and the next question comes from an individual named Grace in Edmonton,
00:11:41.960 no occupation listed, and, of course, she just cares about climate change.
00:11:46.240 Again, if you're a Liberal voter, you care a lot about climate change.
00:11:48.720 If you're a Conservative voter, less than 10% of Conservative voters that we talked to in our poll
00:11:53.500 said that they care about climate change.
00:11:57.180 And so her line of questioning is basically,
00:11:59.580 you have Conservatives in your caucus, what are you going to do with them?
00:12:02.740 Basically asking, how Liberal are you going to govern?
00:12:05.540 Here's what that looked like.
00:12:06.660 So I'll be basing my vote around the kind of government that we will elect
00:12:10.520 because that would be hugely important to the steps we do or don't take
00:12:14.700 in confronting our biggest challenges.
00:12:16.840 My question to the leader of the Conservatives is around the party that he leads
00:12:20.200 and what kind of government him and that party will form if they are to win.
00:12:24.860 But my question is, given that your party and some of its members have,
00:12:28.880 in some cases in the past, taken some very different positions,
00:12:32.340 how will you, if you form government, handle party or even caucus members
00:12:37.080 who may feel your views aren't Conservative enough?
00:12:41.060 I did read that a couple months ago back at the Policy Convention
00:12:44.720 that a majority of the delegates did vote to reject adding statements like
00:12:49.740 climate change is real to the policy book.
00:12:52.660 So just using that as an example of perhaps a more delicate issue
00:12:56.480 within the party, how will you kind of deal with that?
00:12:59.340 And finally, we just did a little montage of Rosemary Barton
00:13:02.360 because she had the opportunity to jump in on each of the individual questions
00:13:05.300 and then she came and created her own line of questioning,
00:13:08.620 which again, really is just a one-on-one with a Liberal activist.
00:13:12.360 Then you can show ambition.
00:13:14.560 We now have new ones, right?
00:13:16.020 Mr. Trudeau changed his targets twice.
00:13:18.480 The world changed their targets.
00:13:19.980 Mr. Trudeau changed Canada's targets twice.
00:13:22.140 You have to update the targets after two years.
00:13:24.300 In the 10 days after we released our plan.
00:13:27.260 But how is restricting the Beretta storm weapon used at the Dawson College
00:13:32.160 shooting, for instance, how is that political?
00:13:34.800 What is the political decision that goes into restricting that firearm?
00:13:38.640 On what planet does that firearm need to be part of what is allowed in this country?
00:13:43.700 That doesn't sound like someone that's going to go around
00:13:46.020 and enforce the Canada Health Act.
00:13:47.560 So if you are Prime Minister, can someone pay to get access to a service
00:13:52.440 faster than the rest of us who have to be on the wait list?
00:13:55.340 You say often that Justin Trudeau says one thing and does another.
00:13:59.360 As Grace has pointed out, the same thing could be said of you.
00:14:03.100 Whether it be the promise on a carbon tax,
00:14:05.520 whether it be some of your comments around guns,
00:14:08.080 and whether it be other things.
00:14:09.120 Sometimes I don't even know where you stand on an issue, to be frank.
00:14:12.940 And it sounds like Grace is in the same place as me.
00:14:16.260 If provinces want to allow for people to pay for services and not wait in line,
00:14:21.380 will you allow that to happen as Prime Minister?
00:14:23.500 People deserve an answer.
00:14:24.420 That's a super important question.
00:14:26.260 When you were running to be leader, though,
00:14:28.080 you talked a lot about taking back Canada.
00:14:30.240 That was just in August of 2020.
00:14:32.000 I didn't understand what you meant then.
00:14:34.140 I'm not sure I understand now.
00:14:35.900 But that, to me, that kind of language doesn't seem to be
00:14:38.880 a uniting kind of language.
00:14:41.040 Do you feel like at times during the leadership run
00:14:44.900 that you too contributed to creating division?
00:14:48.420 Why not require people to be vaccinated to get on a plane or a train?
00:14:52.540 You're vaccinated.
00:14:53.420 I'm vaccinated.
00:14:54.480 Why should I have to go on a plane
00:14:56.160 and worry if the person next to me is or isn't?
00:14:59.700 Why is that person who won't get it done,
00:15:03.140 and you want people to get vaccinated, you've said it,
00:15:05.320 why is it their right to come on a plane or a train and it's not mine?
00:15:09.720 Where is your ambition?
00:15:11.360 Why not have targets that you seek to meet
00:15:14.260 instead of ones that we know that we will meet?
00:15:16.520 Because most people believe that we are now going to meet the emissions, the 30%.
00:15:19.680 Look, I'm for journalists asking politicians tough questions.
00:15:22.360 I'm for them holding their feet to the fire.
00:15:24.400 The problem here is that this didn't feel like an interview
00:15:27.140 between a journalist and a politician.
00:15:28.860 It felt like a debate between two politicians.
00:15:31.040 It felt like a liberal activist peppering a conservative politician
00:15:34.960 with unfair, biased questions, leading questions,
00:15:38.000 and really just the framing, the spin, the talking points.
00:15:41.780 It was very, very left-wing and very liberal.
00:15:44.440 I don't think a conservative stands a chance in an environment like this.
00:15:47.780 And this is why I don't think the conservatives should even bother to do events like this.
00:15:51.140 Because what ends up happening is that Aaron O'Toole,
00:15:53.640 just to get through the night,
00:15:54.780 just to survive the interview and being in the hot seat,
00:15:58.040 he ends up moderating himself,
00:15:59.820 putting forth more left-wing talking points,
00:16:01.820 and really turning off conservative voters.
00:16:03.800 Because if you're a conservative voter on the fence
00:16:05.680 between voting PPC and voting conservative,
00:16:08.360 and you see Aaron O'Toole up there,
00:16:10.200 you know, just trying to answer those questions in a fair way,
00:16:13.360 but really he's being led so far to the left
00:16:15.500 that it makes him come off as a leftist,
00:16:17.620 which is why this event is the best example of why.
00:16:20.380 If Aaron O'Toole wins this election
00:16:21.660 and becomes the Prime Minister of Canada,
00:16:23.540 he must immediately follow through with that pledge
00:16:26.040 and defund the partisan liberal CBC.
00:16:29.200 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:16:31.820 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm.