Juno News - May 08, 2025


CBC’s EMBARRASSING spin on Carney’s White House meeting, what would Canada look like without tariffs


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In this episode of The Candice Malcolm Show, host Candice talks with law professor Bruce Pardee about the role of the federal government in Canada's economy and the impact of President Trump's new trade tariffs on the Canadian dairy industry.

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00:00:00.000 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:00:06.000 So we just did a segment with Bruce Pardee, Professor of Law at Queen's University,
00:00:10.220 talking about Alberta independence and what Canada really needs, a sort of turmoil that
00:00:15.460 might make us change for the better. And I asked him to stick around for another segment because
00:00:19.220 I want to talk to him about tariffs. He had a piece in Epoch Times talking about the fact that
00:00:25.360 free market people, generally speaking, have an absolute revulsion towards tariffs. And yet,
00:00:32.320 in some cases, like he said, even with President Trump's tariffs, they are actually useful and
00:00:38.500 meaningful and serve a purpose. So I wanted to talk to him a little bit about that. Bruce,
00:00:42.360 thanks for sticking around. Oh, great to be here, Candice. Thank you.
00:00:46.300 Okay. So this is a really interesting conversation because we were just talking about
00:00:50.220 Canada and how it exists and the purpose of Canada, what is Canada. And it seems to me that
00:00:54.780 our economy is basically entirely intertwined with our government, that it's hard to even think of
00:01:01.100 an industry in Canada that doesn't have the sort of clause of government in it. And it used to sort
00:01:07.460 of be maybe, I don't know, like a liberal policy that they would reward companies and industries
00:01:13.040 that they like with corporate welfare. I don't see anything different happening under conservatives
00:01:17.540 like someone like Doug Ford, the premier of Ontario. And so it seems to me that when President Trump came
00:01:23.520 in and said, Americans are done being taken advantage of, we're going to hit everyone back
00:01:27.440 with tariffs. The response from Canada ought to be an, okay, we need to like tidy, like sort out our
00:01:32.400 own affairs and maybe stop with all of these subsidies. And yet the response from all the parties
00:01:37.580 were, let's go even more, double down even more with our own tariffs, countervailing tariffs,
00:01:44.200 except for we were the ones that had tariffs in the first place. So I'm wondering if you could just
00:01:47.540 sort of help us understand what's happening here and what your thoughts and opinions are on this.
00:01:52.640 Yes, no, you're, you're a hundred percent correct. It's a, it's a, Canada's response to these tariffs
00:01:59.880 has been pretty rich in the sense that Canada has huge tariffs on its own, own imports, especially
00:02:10.120 and including from the United States. And moreover, we have trade barriers between our own provinces.
00:02:17.960 And so the Canadian response to the Trump tariffs, which was a sort of a haughty, you know, tariffs
00:02:23.200 are always bad for both sides, you know, well, you either believe that or you don't. And if you
00:02:28.640 believe it, then why do you have tariffs already that pre-exist the new Trump tariffs? So the whole
00:02:36.300 thing is a, is a, is political gamemanship, not, not, you shouldn't, you should not take what they
00:02:42.320 say at face value. It's not what they really mean. Well, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. No, I was
00:02:47.700 going to say, and, and, and you're, you're absolutely correct that the proper economic response to the
00:02:53.020 Trump tariffs would have been to re-examine what this country does and to see if Trump has a point.
00:02:59.160 And I think he does. I think he does. So if it had been done sensibly, one would have decided,
00:03:09.100 for example, to dismantle the Canadian supply management system. Just, just, just one example
00:03:16.980 of, of the kinds of trade restrictions that exist. But of course that can't be done politically.
00:03:23.180 That's, that's, you know, a sacred cow. And so you have to keep on going down the path that you're
00:03:29.120 on and the path that you're on is, well, we're going to retaliate with our own tariffs, which are
00:03:33.600 silly because that's going to hurt your own people. First and foremost, it's not going to make nearly as
00:03:41.080 big an impact on the Americans as the American tariffs do on, on us. Uh, so it is political
00:03:47.460 gamemanship as far as I'm, as far as I'm concerned. Well, but it's, it's not even just supply
00:03:52.280 management. Like, uh, you know, we, we, we hear a lot of grumblings. Actually, Maxime Bernier,
00:03:55.720 in some ways, the people's party was founded on this idea because when he was running for
00:03:59.340 conservative leader, he wanted to do away with the milk dairy quotas that exist. And Andrew
00:04:03.580 Scheer sort of famously courted those dairy farmers and was able to win in Quebec, which
00:04:07.260 is why he became the leader of the conservative party on like the 17th ballot by half a percentage
00:04:11.140 point. Like it was incredibly close. And, and, and so Maxime Bernier went his own way for a number
00:04:16.120 of other reasons as well. But, you know, that's the one that conservatives and, and, uh, I guess,
00:04:20.940 free market thinkers talk about a lot, but when you look at Canada's like entire, like
00:04:26.000 the big companies in Canada and the big industries, they're all in some ways federally regulated
00:04:31.700 to get special advantages, whether you're talking about the airlines, like your Canada, you know,
00:04:35.540 doesn't see a lot of competition. Uh, the banks, this was a dispute that Trump would talk about
00:04:39.960 whether or not American banks were already, I'm sure you can have an American credit card,
00:04:42.820 but when it comes to like consumer banks, you know, you don't walk down the street and see
00:04:47.260 a Wells Fargo or a chase, you see a TD and an RBC and those kinds of things like, or you
00:04:53.200 could talk about telecommunications and, and, you know, Bell and Rogers, like there isn't
00:04:57.340 competition from American companies. And if there were the Canadian companies probably
00:05:02.140 just wouldn't really exist. Right. And so it's, it's kind of an interesting question.
00:05:06.440 I was talking to someone who, uh, was all, I don't know if you remember a couple of years
00:05:09.620 ago, Target, which is a big American retailer came into Canada and it was this big, exciting
00:05:13.600 thing. I know a lot of people who do their household shopping at, uh, Target in the States.
00:05:18.000 I knew even people in Canada who literally drive across the border to go to Target, such
00:05:21.900 a great store, right? So people were really excited when it was coming to Canada and then
00:05:25.240 it came to Canada, it was terrible. It was a total flop and the shelves were half empty
00:05:28.500 and all the great things about Target that you loved when you, you know, go do it down in
00:05:32.500 the States. Uh, it wasn't there in Canada. And, uh, you know, talking to someone who, uh, was
00:05:37.740 involved in the deal, basically said, you know, we were told that Canada, that we were entering
00:05:41.540 into this 40 million person market and it was a huge opportunity for us. Uh, but then
00:05:46.160 we got there, we realized that really what it was, was like a 13 million person market
00:05:50.640 Ontario and then a whole bunch of other markets we didn't really understand. And that basically
00:05:55.680 exactly what you were describing that the inter-prevential trade barriers make it so that we're not one
00:06:00.840 market, we're divided up into many markets. And so all this is just to say that it seems
00:06:05.900 like without this weird, you know, cask S system that we've created with regards to so many
00:06:11.960 rules in our economy, like with all the restrictions, I know, uh, again, former prime minister, Justin
00:06:18.080 Trudeau apparently said to Donald Trump, if we didn't have all these subsidies, we wouldn't
00:06:22.800 exist as a country, like Canada would be finished. And Trump loves to repeat that line. Uh, you
00:06:27.580 know, it's not something that Canadian politicians ever say to the public in Canada, but it's sort
00:06:31.440 of an interesting concept. What do you think? Yes, I agree. So this is part of the, this
00:06:38.000 is part of the angst in the Canadian, in the Canadian character, if you like, we are dependent
00:06:44.880 on the United States economically, militarily, even culturally. We depend on them. They're,
00:06:52.700 they are our market. And so we can't, we can't function without them. And yet we think we're
00:07:00.820 against them in some kind of cultural sense. And so this is like a kind of cultural schizophrenia,
00:07:07.440 right? We love them when we hate them. We hate them because we love them. We hate them
00:07:11.260 because we need them. Um, Canada is becoming a managed society. Our economy is managed. Yes,
00:07:22.380 it is. We are, our economy is full of protectionism. So people who think, oh, well, you know, Canada
00:07:28.760 is essentially a capitalist society. I don't think so. When we have property in a sense,
00:07:34.960 but our property is now as much of a liability as an asset because of the way our, our governments
00:07:40.740 regard it as a thing to be taxed and regulated and controlled and directed. So we are a long
00:07:47.180 way off. We've, we, we've fallen a long way from what it is that we think that we are,
00:07:53.440 or at least what we think we were. And, uh, it is going to take a kind of, of, of economic
00:08:01.760 and cultural earthquake to, to wake a lot of us up, to realize what we've come to. Our response
00:08:09.800 to the tariffs is just one of the reflections of, of that reality.
00:08:13.760 Well, I, I mean, this, this should be a wake up call, right? Like this entire Trump episode
00:08:19.900 should have been a wake up to Canadians that something needs to change instead. I think
00:08:23.000 can Canadians have the opposite reaction, which is we need to like all double down on this.
00:08:26.880 I'll give you a quick example. Uh, president Trump announced earlier this week, uh, really
00:08:31.040 kind of a devastated move for the Canadian film industry. So the movie industry in America
00:08:34.700 is dying a very fast death. Other countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our
00:08:38.840 filmmakers and studios away from the United States. Hollywood and many other areas of the U.S.
00:08:42.860 are being devastated. And so he goes on and he basically just announces an immediate 100%
00:08:48.760 tariff on any and all movies coming into our country that are produced in foreign lands.
00:08:52.740 We want to make movies in America again. Okay. This is completely true, right? Like the,
00:08:57.600 like I grew up in Vancouver. I have a lot of friends that are in the movie industry and I've
00:09:01.080 been watching it since its inception and it was a government creation, right? The whole idea was
00:09:05.320 that they bribed these movie studios to film movies up in Vancouver just to create jobs. It was a
00:09:10.900 make work program. And oftentimes the government will be spending more money on these subsidies
00:09:15.240 than the jobs would even create. Right. And, and so this is something that's been propped
00:09:19.000 up for, I don't know, 20 years. And oftentimes again, like, like companies will take advantage
00:09:23.640 of it. It's like, you know, we get a tax credit for three years and the idea is that they stick
00:09:27.000 around and then the tax credit ends and the company just up and moves. And, and so Trump
00:09:31.180 is just saying like, you can't do this. We're going to hit you back. So it was Canada subsidizing
00:09:35.480 in the first place, Trump hitting back with the counter tariff in response. And then our
00:09:40.560 response again is, okay, then we're going to do something else. And even, you know, someone
00:09:44.920 who used to, I consider, used to be a friend of at least conservatives and free market ideas,
00:09:49.880 premier, former premier of Alberta, Jason Kenney, he kind of, they go down on this idea. He wrote
00:09:54.480 on X, proud of the work at his premier massively to expand Alberta's film and television industries.
00:09:59.480 And so like, the idea was that he was proud of what subsidizing companies to come up to
00:10:05.780 Canada. Like that's like, why is that the role of a conservative premier? I don't understand.
00:10:09.960 I don't understand it either. And so the analogy I like to use, and I use this in the piece that
00:10:15.040 you referred to off the top. So let's imagine, forget, forget the border, forget the different
00:10:19.240 country for a minute. Just imagine you have two businesses in a small town and they, they,
00:10:23.500 and they sell the same stuff. And one of them is subsidized.
00:10:29.480 Okay. We don't think that's okay because it places the other one at a disadvantage. That that's
00:10:35.440 not the rule of law. That's favoritism. And so to fix that, you either have to take the subsidies away
00:10:41.660 or you have to give the other company subsidies as well. So everything's equal. Right. And the
00:10:47.780 only difference here is those, those count, those, those competitors are in different countries.
00:10:52.640 And one of the countries is giving their company subsidies. That's not, that's not a level
00:10:59.360 playing field. And if you're Trump, you say, I see what you're doing. You are placing our
00:11:05.740 competitors at a, at an economic disadvantage. It's not a level playing field. I'm putting
00:11:10.860 tariffs on. I think that's a fair response. If our industries like the film industry that
00:11:18.020 you're referring to cannot exist without government subsidies, then it cannot exist because it's not
00:11:26.520 competing well. If you really want to succeed, you compete on a level playing field and you beat
00:11:32.500 the competitor who's also not getting subsidies. And if you can't do that, then you, then you,
00:11:37.340 then you fail.
00:11:38.400 Right. And, and, and it's almost like a double subsidy because the Canadian dollar is also lower,
00:11:42.020 right? For these American studios, they come up to Vancouver and they're paying 60, 70 cents
00:11:46.140 on the dollar. That's, that's the subsidy in itself in a way, not, maybe not intentional,
00:11:50.020 but that's just how the market is right now. But, but, but then on top of that, you get the
00:11:54.060 government of British Columbia film credits, the government of Canada film credits. It actually
00:11:57.360 drives me crazy. This is like a minor pet peeve of mine. My, I have little kids and they watch
00:12:01.900 some TV and one of the shows that they love is a show called Bluey and it's about an Australian dog
00:12:06.420 and it has some film credits from Australia, but the show is like basically like a walking ad
00:12:11.960 for Australia. Like it just, it showcases Australia culture and it gets you excited
00:12:16.260 about the idea of the, you know, and, and now they have all kinds of tours. Australia
00:12:19.320 you can go and do like bluey stuff. And so at least you could argue that there's some value
00:12:22.780 to the country for having this like hugely popular children's television show. And you
00:12:27.180 compare that to Paw Patrol, which is a Canadian show and it gets all the same kind of film credits
00:12:31.940 and all kinds of, even though it's like a massively astronomically popular successful show
00:12:36.740 that's been around for like a decade.
00:12:37.700 And yet when you watch that show, you'd have no idea it was Canadian because they don't 1.00
00:12:41.000 even mention Canada. They don't even pretend to have a Canadian identity at all. That's
00:12:44.720 just out of his sight. If we're going to put money into something, you might as well actually
00:12:47.900 like you get something for it and have some kind of a Canadian identity. They don't at all,
00:12:53.260 but it just, it's like, yeah. Why does the government have to be involved in every industry? And this
00:12:59.780 is a second pet peeve of mine, Bruce. And I don't want to draw you down into this media well,
00:13:04.220 but if you look at YouTube after Carney and Trump had their bilateral, the reviews were pretty
00:13:11.240 devastating for Mark Carney. Everyone was pointing out, not just YouTube, but X, anywhere on social
00:13:15.180 media, people were pointing out how uncomfortable Carney looked, how Donald Trump played him,
00:13:19.860 how it was like a game of, you know, if anyone who's read the art of the deal, how Trump just
00:13:24.180 really outplayed him. He embarrassed him. He was speaking all these things that Carney said that he
00:13:28.620 didn't say anymore. He was saying them again. Well, 51st state and all that stuff. Anyway, if you were a social
00:13:34.100 media, you would, and you didn't see the meeting itself, you would assume it went very badly for
00:13:38.340 the Canadian prime minister. If you're watching the legacy media, however, it's like a totally
00:13:42.380 different picture. So I had my producer here just do a scan of like some of the headlines and some of
00:13:47.400 the clips. And it's really just like remarkable, the propaganda at work here. So, you know, Toronto
00:13:53.640 star here headline, we got the first glimpse of the new Carney Trump relationship. Our guy sounded pitch
00:13:59.820 perfect. CBC. I like this guy. I like this guy. Carney gets warm words from Trump. The rest
00:14:06.200 has to wait. Another CBC headline. Carney tells Trump Canada is not for sale. President praises PM
00:14:12.620 as a very good person. And then I'll just show a quick clip here. So this is a CBC analyst,
00:14:20.960 Catherine Cullen, celebrating Mark Carney's use of humor to diffuse tension at the meeting,
00:14:25.440 praising his facial expressions as he sat awkwardly with the president. Let's play this clip.
00:14:33.600 I did think the way he tried to use his sense of humor to diffuse the situation was striking,
00:14:40.500 and it does hold some significance. Let's take a look at another moment where that is on display,
00:14:46.420 where Donald Trump is again asked about this idea of a 51st date. Mark Carney has said,
00:14:50.880 no, thank you. But Trump isn't relenting. Let's watch and watch Mark Carney's face here.
00:14:55.440 Now they're stepping it up. And that's a very important thing. But never say never. Never say
00:14:59.900 never.
00:15:04.160 And you know, there he is. He's laughing. He's sort of like wiggling in his eyebrows a little
00:15:11.940 there. He's doing a little. Yeah, that's it. And but I think this is significant because it was
00:15:17.080 clearly something of a strategy to try to diffuse the tension. Okay, so I just have one more.
00:15:23.600 Another CBC reporter Aaron Collins praising Mark Carney again for his facial expressions. Let's play
00:15:28.620 this clip. After Carney said Canada's not for sale, the president, he continues insisting that, you
00:15:34.400 know, Canada could be had. But but just watch what the prime minister does here. Now they're stepping
00:15:41.480 it up. And that's a very important thing. But never say never, ever say never.
00:15:50.700 So you can see it's quick there. But he's very quietly mouthing the words never. He's looking
00:15:56.900 away from the president. But he's careful not to insult the president while doing this. So firm,
00:16:01.960 the polite, no easy task. It's a very Canadian strategy, Andrew.
00:16:06.380 Well, trying too hard.
00:16:07.980 What did you think of that, Bruce?
00:16:09.160 But it doesn't matter how, you know, if they're right or wrong in their opinion. The fact of the
00:16:16.400 matter is that the CBC is one of the best examples of the kind of thing we're talking about,
00:16:20.980 right? The CBC is a government institution. So nobody in their right mind ought to listen to
00:16:27.620 anything they have to say. It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong. You start off in a deficit
00:16:33.260 because they are funded, in this case of the CBC, entirely by the government. It's a government
00:16:40.480 mouthpiece. That's what it's become. And of course, our legacy media, although they are not government
00:16:46.900 institutions per se, they are also now getting funded by the federal government. And so they are
00:16:51.720 discrediting themselves, in my view. They are like the other industries we referred to before,
00:16:56.600 which are managed by government. And so you don't have a free market in journalism either.
00:17:09.460 We certainly don't. And we saw even during the campaign, I mean, we had Preston Manning
00:17:13.400 write to the ethics commissioner saying it was a conflict of interest for Mark Kearney to pledge
00:17:17.360 an extra $150 million to the CBC during the campaign. That's a pretty clear example, I think,
00:17:21.780 of a conflict of interest. They had no interest in following that, basically dismissed it.
00:17:25.780 But we also saw that the News Media Act, the one that made Google pay $100 million,
00:17:31.920 it was basically a shakedown saying, give us this money in order to operate in Canada.
00:17:35.040 That money was given to the Canadian government. They distribute it to news outlets during the
00:17:39.480 election campaign. So the big newspapers, including wire services like the Canadian press,
00:17:44.460 all got millions and millions of money from the government during the election campaign. So
00:17:49.780 it used to just be CBC that we would worry about. And now it's almost everybody in the legacy
00:17:54.520 media. Almost anyone, every newspaper, even the private, CTV, global, everyone's got their hand
00:18:02.420 in the jar when it comes to government subseasons. It's like, how can a reporter, how can anyone who
00:18:07.060 claims to be a journalist operate in good faith knowing that they're funded by the government?
00:18:11.740 And not even the government, like one political party that's pushing this. It's an attack on our
00:18:17.180 democracy and our free press. And yet it's, you know, the lazy media love to talk about attacks
00:18:23.680 on democracy, but never when it comes to this kind of thing.
00:18:28.560 Yes. Well, I agree with you, but the real problem is that it seems to be okay with the people.
00:18:35.400 That Canadians do not, on the whole, I don't mean that everybody's of the same mind, but on the 0.58
00:18:44.020 whole, Canadians do not seem to be upset about this and so many other things about the big picture in
00:18:50.980 this country. Well, I, yeah, I completely agree that people, this should have been a wake-up call.
00:18:56.040 Unfortunately, it wasn't. I want to just bring in one other topic, Bruce. I don't know if you're
00:18:59.580 interested in this at all, but I am. One of the things that I really loved about what happened in
00:19:03.840 the U.S. 2024 election was the Maha movement, the Make America Healthy Again movement. I think
00:19:08.700 it started as like a bunch of moms on Instagram that were kind of worried about like the things
00:19:13.000 that were in our kids' food, and I was one of those moms for sure. And it's grown into this
00:19:17.700 huge movement. Well, yesterday we learned that President Trump has appointed Dr. Casey Means to
00:19:24.460 be the next Surgeon General of the United States. Now you might not know who she is. Casey Means wrote
00:19:29.100 a book called Good Energy. And I would say that this book is like my Bible, but of course the Bible
00:19:33.740 is my Bible. But when it comes to health, I love this book so much. I bought like 30 copies of it
00:19:38.560 and I gave it to like everyone in my family, all my friends and even my staff for Christmas because
00:19:43.520 I thought it was just such an important book. It's something that I live by. And I'm such a huge fan
00:19:48.360 of Casey Means. She's a young doctor. She's in her 30s and she was trained at Stanford and basically 0.51
00:19:53.040 just completely revolted against the system, became like a holistic medicine person who advocates
00:19:58.760 for good metabolic health and kind of walks people through how to achieve that. And so the idea that
00:20:04.080 someone like this would be placed in a position like this, I think is just truly exceptional and
00:20:08.320 wonderful. And I'm so excited to see what will happen. So congratulations, Dr. Casey Means. And I
00:20:13.440 think this is such a good sign. It doesn't really impact Canada, except for of course it will, because
00:20:16.900 if the United States is able to clean up its food industry, get rid of a lot of the sort of very 0.99
00:20:21.480 troublesome products and things that get placed in our foods, chemicals and all that kind of stuff,
00:20:27.240 I think that it will have a positive impact on Canadians as well. So I don't know if you wanted
00:20:31.300 to comment on this, but I'm very excited about it.
00:20:35.020 Yeah. So again, back to the big picture. So here's the irony in a way, if you like. So one of the
00:20:43.500 claimed purposes of governments is to protect us from the things that big bad corporations do. And yet
00:20:51.020 what's actually happened is that governments and big corporations have been colluding to impose
00:20:56.460 things on us. And part of the project that's now being carried out or at least attempted in the U.S.
00:21:03.740 is to get government out of it so that people can then choose for themselves again.
00:21:09.820 Exactly.
00:21:10.460 Right. And we'll see what, you know, have to see over time how that project goes, but that's the project
00:21:18.380 that has started in the U.S. and has not started in Canada.
00:21:22.460 Oh, tell me about it. Even when I go to my local organic market in, you know, not, not, not a big city,
00:21:29.180 but just outside the city, I go to a local organic market and I can't find bread that doesn't have
00:21:34.300 like 50, 50 ingredients, including a whole bunch of chemicals that I can't pronounce. Like you can't,
00:21:38.380 you can't even find it. You can't even find like organic cheeses or anything like that. So it's like,
00:21:43.500 it kind of is a market problem. But to your point, it's because governments have allowed corporations
00:21:48.860 to collude and create all kinds of things. Like the priority is not actually having a healthy
00:21:53.500 population or, or making sure the kids are healthy. Their priority is just making money
00:21:57.580 for themselves. It's, it's, it's, it's so disgusting.
00:21:59.660 And part of the reason you can't find bread to your liking is that the people who make the products,
00:22:05.420 it goes going back to our supply management point, the people who, who, who make the products,
00:22:10.300 you know, including the cheese and the milk and the eggs all have to be licensed. They're all
00:22:14.940 government approved. You can't just go to a local producer and say, you know, you have stuff that
00:22:19.260 I want. I have money that you want. Let's make, let's, let's transact. Government won't allow that
00:22:24.460 for the very reason that our economy is managed. No, you're so right. And even I, this is just
00:22:29.580 another anecdote, but I went to a Whole Foods, I had to drive like 45 minutes to get to the closest
00:22:33.580 Whole Foods. And I noticed that the shelves were like half empty there, right? This is a big American
00:22:38.140 organic grocery store they brought into Canada. They have a couple of locations. And so I spoke to just,
00:22:42.700 you know, the, the guy that is stocking the shelves and I'm like, what's, what's happening
00:22:45.500 here? Why can't I find all the stuff that I find if I'm in the Whole Foods in the US? And he's like,
00:22:49.260 it's hard to find suppliers because you, you, you have to translate everything into French. So the
00:22:54.620 labeling and a lot of our, you know, a lot of our, our suppliers in the US just don't, there's no,
00:22:59.660 it's not worthwhile financially for them to create all new packaging just to set it up to Canada.
00:23:04.460 So it's exactly your point. It's because of these crazy government regulations that even in a place
00:23:10.300 where there aren't French speakers, they still have to put French on all the boxes and all the
00:23:14.220 labels. All right, Bruce, I always enjoy the conversation. Thank you so much for joining
00:23:17.740 us. It's been a pleasure. Oh, thanks, Candace. Always a pleasure. Thanks.
00:23:20.540 All right. I hope to see you again soon. That is Bruce Pardee, Professor of Law at
00:23:23.740 Queen's University. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. We'll be back again tomorrow
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