Juno News - November 17, 2022
China is walking all over Canada and Trudeau
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Summary
In this episode, Andrew Lawton takes a look at the ongoing Public Order Emergency Commission investigation into alleged Chinese espionage in Canada, and discusses the extent of China's influence in Canada and around the world. He also points out that China is becoming a global superpower, and that it has been using its influence to advance its political and economic interests.
Transcript
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This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
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Hello and welcome to you all. It is Wednesday, November 16th, 2022.
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The Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show is about to begin here on True North.
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You're tuned in to the Andrew Lawton Show and I thank you very much.
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It was a bit of a slower day before the Public Order Emergency Commission,
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but I am going to talk about what's happened there because I think in general,
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we're seeing the culmination of all of this evidence and testimony and documents
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and all of that coming forward, which is continually chipping away at,
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if not completely eroding, the federal government's narrative
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about the necessity and the justification of the Emergencies Act.
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So we're going to talk about that in a little bit of depth later on.
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But I want to shift the spotlight to China,
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which is not something I've talked about on the program in a while.
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and you needn't look further than Canada to see it.
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But on the global scene, it's incredibly important to start paying attention to this.
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One issue which doesn't get nearly enough attention is China's Belt and Road Initiative.
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This is a multi-trillion dollar investment plan that basically entraps the developing world
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But when you go to places like in the Caribbean or in Africa or poorer Asian countries,
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you'll see all these brand new airports, bridges, highways.
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And some have said this is debt-trap diplomacy.
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No matter what, it is China extending its tentacles very far
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so that there are trade networks connecting China with all reaches of the globe.
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It's flipping around the old 15th century or 16th century mercantilism
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There has been a vast infiltration of global institutions such as governments,
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academic institutions, private sector organizations, corporate cultures
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that have seen Chinese state operatives take on, in some cases, very prominent roles.
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In many cases, it may be to advance the Chinese Politburo's agenda.
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In some cases, it is for the direct purpose of espionage.
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Just this week, we had espionage charges against a Chinese operative
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Now, what it is that he wanted from Hydro-Quebec that China was interested in,
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who was a researcher for Hydro-Quebec, of espionage.
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And they have now charged him and said he was illegally doing work
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for Chinese institutions well-employed at Quebec's hydro-regulator.
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We still don't have answers on exactly what was happening by those researchers
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that were employed at Canada's only Level 4 biolab, the lab in Winnipeg,
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which the government has gone through painstaking efforts
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to conceal the documents connecting to that investigation.
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So the evidence of Chinese infiltration is vast and ongoing.
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We keep finding more and more examples of this,
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not to mention politicians who have been compromised by China.
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In the U.S., there was that Democrat presidential candidate,
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In Canada, CSIS has made claims about Chinese influence of politicians as well,
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including a former provincial cabinet minister in Ontario,
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a former federal conservative member of parliament,
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and possibly many more conservative MPs and liberal MPs alike.
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That was not meant to be directed at one party.
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It's that we know for a fact China has tried to support a network of 11 federal candidates.
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They may have spread misinformation to go against incumbents,
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but 11 federal candidates, not all of them liberal.
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And this list has not yet been presented of exactly which candidates we're talking about.
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We know in one case that Kenny Chu, who will be on the show in just a few moments' time,
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Now, not targeted with support, targeted with opposition.
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Perhaps they didn't like his strong support of Hong Kong
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But we know that China was using Canadian institutions and Canadian networks
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to funnel money towards its chosen politicians.
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And what are we supposed to say about this as a country?
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The world is still treating Chairman Xi Jinping as being the partner in climate,
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And when it comes to criticizing China's genocide of Uyghurs in its Xinjiang province,
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even then, Justin Trudeau will clam up and refuse to call a spade a spade.
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This is what happened when he was asked about this on one of his foreign junkets this week.
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Today, you took an emotional tour of Cambodia's Genocide Museum.
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Tomorrow, you're going to be at the G20 with China.
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The Canadian Parliament has already called China's treatment of the Uyghurs a genocide.
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As I've seen when I visited the Shoah Memorial, the Holocaust Memorial in Israel,
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as I've seen, as I visited the Holocaust Memorial, the genocide memorial in Rwanda,
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as I saw today, visiting and seeing the history of the genocide that happened here in Cambodia,
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the word genocide, acts of genocide are things to be taken incredibly seriously as a world.
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And we have objective, historical, expert processes to put in place those words and those designations.
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We continue to call out vicious human rights abuses around the world,
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including against the Uyghurs in Xinjiang by the Chinese government.
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But designations of genocide need to be made by proper international authorities.
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So he takes that little awkward pause there, says, well, remember, genocide is a big word,
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and we don't just like throwing around those big words.
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You know, that might be a defensible position if Justin Trudeau hadn't used the word genocide
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Now, if you're going to be the guy that says, you know what, we really want to think carefully
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about using the word genocide, that's perfectly fine.
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But don't use it against yourself and not against China
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and expect that you're not going to get called out on that.
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But as we've seen, Justin Trudeau has a big China-sized blind spot in his foreign policy.
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Like I mentioned, when it comes to climate change, he's all about working with China,
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He'll finger wag about the abduction of the two Michaels.
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But when push comes to shove, where is the tough talk?
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And I think it's important to play this clip that's been going viral from Bali,
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the site of the G20 summit, where Justin Trudeau had a bilateral meeting with Chairman Xi.
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And Chairman Xi didn't like the news of the contents of that meeting
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And he decided to take his concerns to Justin Trudeau directly.
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Everything we discussed and leaked to the Pesach, that's not the purpose.
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And that's not how the way the conversation was conducted.
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free and open and frank dialogue, and that is what we will continue to have.
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We will continue to work constructively together,
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Now, I'm not going to take Chairman Xi's side here just to own the libs, as they say.
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I think the Chinese regime is an absolutely terrible institution.
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And I think that world leaders who kowtow to him,
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like Justin Trudeau has at times, should be ashamed of themselves.
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But I also will point out the inherent weakness here,
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which, I mean, by the way, I do enjoy that Justin Trudeau
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didn't even wait for the translator to translate
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oh, no, we will always support in Canada free and frank dialogue and so on.
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He's just like, I don't actually know what I think about that.
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But maybe I like cutting off the translator
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because if you know that you don't care what he's going to say.
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What Chairman Xi is doing there is blaming Justin Trudeau
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for allowing the media to report about what the two discussed
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especially when Canadians were understandably asking Justin Trudeau about it.
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Did you condemn the genocide against the Uyghurs?
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Did you condemn the influence and infiltration of Canadian institutions?
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Why should Canada have to play nice with China
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when China is out there trying to trample all over Canadian democracy?
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We're going to talk to two men who know this file very well.
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One is Garnet Jenis, the Conservative MP, who will join us very shortly.
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And also Kenny Chu, the former Conservative MP,
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who I've talked to about this issue in the past.
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And I think a lot of people kind of dismissed it
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when you pointed out that there were some irregularities here
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and that certainly you knew that you were the subject
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that were eerily similar to Chinese regime talking points here.
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Information a couple of years later now reveals
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that there were 11 federal candidates that China was backing.
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And we haven't gotten the list of who those are.
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But are you surprised by this, by the scale of this operation
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Not really, Andrew, because knowing what the Chinese communists
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are capable of doing and their ambitions of performing,
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influencing a country, an easy target like Canada
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it's something that would be even more outrageous and obvious
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comparing to what CESIS has reported to Parliament and,
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not Parliament, sorry, the Prime Minister's Office
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and realize that there have been evidence of that happening,
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I'm very curious to see what they're finding is for 2021,
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not just because that I personally am involved,
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but also because I know that there has been other cases
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in 2021 election that China is interfering in our country.
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So I'll ask about what you think the motivations are
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but it's understandable that the Chinese regime
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or do you think they actively want to support people
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that they think are going to be friendly to them?
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is to influence Canada's positions on many issues.
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And let me just take this opportunity to say this.
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You know, Russia and Iran are two of the, you know,
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However, given what China is now capable of doing,
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