Juno News - February 01, 2024Christians are being targeted in Canada – where’s the outrage？
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Tucker Carlson, the American journalist and pundit, was in town last week. He was in front of huge, huge, live audiences. The number of people that came out to see him in person in person was tremendous. It was inspiring. Sometimes it does take an outsider to come in and point out the truth, things that people are too shy or too afraid to say. And what does that say about us as a society?
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Why does it take an American journalist and pundit, Tucker Carlson, to point out obvious truths about Canada?
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Why is he the only one talking about the evils of our country's euthanasia program?
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Why is he the only one talking about the rot in our society where we encourage and even pay for young Canadians to use deadly and harmful drugs?
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We allow our government to trample on our rights and freedoms, rip apart our history and our traditions,
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and we do nothing when over 90 churches are vandalized or burnt to the ground.
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There is something deeply wrong here in Canada.
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I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
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Okay, so as you saw, we had Tucker Carlson in town.
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Gave tremendous speeches in front of huge, huge live audiences.
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The number of people that came out to see Tucker in person was tremendous.
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He was joined by some of the greatest Canadians alive.
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We're talking about Jordan Peterson, Sir Conrad Black.
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Our own reporter, Rachel Emanuel, introduced Tucker at one of those events.
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So we were pleased to be a part of it in some small way.
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I don't always agree with people he interviews or the way he interviews.
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But I did really appreciate what he had to say in Canada.
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Sometimes it does take an outsider to come in and point out the truth, point out the facts,
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things that people are too shy or too afraid to say.
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You know, a lot of the topics that he brought up, like euthanasia, like the fact that we give drugs
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or we legalize drugs and allow young people to use terribly deadly drugs.
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I think Canadians, generally speaking, are too polite, maybe too horrified to talk about these things.
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I want to zero in on something specific that Tucker talked about when he was talking about
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how Canada treats its Christians, how Canada treats Christian pastors, Christian churches,
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and basically, again, what that has to say about our society.
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So I'm going to play a bit of a longer clip here.
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This is from his speech on January 25th, talking about the treatment of Christians in Canada.
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But take a look at what they're doing to your Christians.
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I am a Christian, but that's not why I'm telling you this.
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I'm telling you this because there's kind of no more inoffensive and peaceful group in the world
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Their religion tells them, commands them to turn the other cheek and to put the concerns of others
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So if you have a problem with those precepts, explain it to me.
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I think every person in this room, regardless of your faith, can agree, yeah, I'm for that.
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So if you're hassling that group, maybe you've got another agenda that we should be concerned about,
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If we burn 90 of their churches to the ground and the prime minister and his little weird buddies are endorsing that,
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burning churches, if you're on the side of burning churches, let me just say,
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I don't need any other facts of the case, you're on the wrong side.
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If you're throwing preachers in prison for preaching the Christian gospel, not for hurting anyone,
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not for making pipe bombs, not for trying to castrate other people's children,
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not for importing millions of people into your country who are not going to have work,
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just for the crime of preaching the Christian gospel, you go to jail at the same time
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when they're encouraging your kids to do drugs and not just fentanyl but weed.
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Don't raise your hand if you have a 15-year-old son, but come up to me after and tell me what you think of legalized weed.
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And if you have a 15-year-old son, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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They did that to you and to your son on purpose.
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And so in a country like that, in a world like that, if you think that preaching the gospel is so dangerous
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that the people who do it need to be in prison in shackles,
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you're serving someone other than the people of Canada, if you know what I mean.
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So again, Tucker is absolutely right, and he's right to point this out.
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I am happy to say that although some of the other issues that Tucker touched on,
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talking about euthanasia, Canada's drug policies, we don't often talk about those things in public forums,
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and we don't have those sort of policy debates in our country, unfortunately.
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When it comes to the treatment of Christians, when it comes to the burning of churches
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and the arresting of pastors, horrible, horrible treatment of pastors,
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again, for the crime of preaching the gospel, trying to host church services for prayer
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during that awful period of COVID, remember that time when you could go to the grocery store,
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you could go to Walmart, you could go to the big box stores and buy things you could consume,
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but heaven forbid you try to go to church, try to find solace in your community and pray to God.
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With your community, that was considered beyond the pale,
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and we saw multiple pastors arrested for that in Canada, in Canada of all places.
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You know, usually you have Canadian leaders condemning the treatment of religious minorities
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You didn't really expect to see it here in Canada, but then COVID came, 2020 came around,
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and all of a sudden we were living in an Orwell novel, and our pastors were getting arrested.
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I'm pleased to say that with some distance and with some time, more people are talking about it,
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more people are raising concerns and saying, hey, that wasn't right, what we did back then wasn't right.
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And I'm pleased, specifically when it comes to the burning of churches,
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that Pierre Polyev, a conservative leader, is finally taking this up.
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This is just from a couple of days ago, January 22nd.
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Pierre Polyev condemns Justin Trudeau for not acting to prevent the church burnings
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and basically excusing them and doing nothing about it.
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In 2021, the Tekumas-Tay Shwetmik First Nation Bank government
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said that they found the remains of 215 children
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who were former students of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School.
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The reality is that to date, not a single body has been discovered.
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The banned government itself has revised the wording of their claim
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to say that it's 200 probable graves, no mention of specific children anymore.
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And the only way to know what's actually beneath the soil would be to excavate,
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which the banned government has not done in two and a half years to date.
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Meanwhile, in Canada, 96 churches have been burnt or vandalized across the country
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and the vandals often leave messages that tie to the initial 215 kids' claim
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My question is, why, just like the leftist media, the NDP, the Liberal government,
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are the Conservatives also so quiet about this truth and good news,
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which is that to date, 215 children's remains have not been discovered there,
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when that truth coming from political leaders could potentially
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help set free Christian Canadians from attacks on their places of worship?
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because there is no justification for burning down a church, period.
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or regardless of the other justifications that people would claim to use,
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there is never a justification to burn down a church.
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And we as Conservatives have called for stronger criminal sanctions for arson
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We've also called for more security infrastructure around places of worship
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so that we can stop terrorists who burn down churches,
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Unfortunately, these crimes against religious communities
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have raged out of control after eight years of Justin Trudeau's catch-and-release system,
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after he has divided our country and turned people and groups against each other.
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We have more violence directed against religious groups,
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including Christians, than we have ever seen in Canadian history.
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He is not worth the cost, he is not worth the crime,
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and he is not worth the country that we know and love.
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And we should provide the resources to allow for full investigation
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into the potential remains at residential schools.
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and Conservatives will always stand in favour of historical accuracy.
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None of this changes the fact that the residential schools
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and we need to move forward in a country that is free
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whether their ancestry goes back tens of thousands of years
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has the freedom to live their life in prosperity and happiness.
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I think it's a little late, but better late than never.
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And again, it is incredibly important that we talk about these issues,
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not just the fact that all of those churches were burnt to the ground,
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but the reason for it, the reason for it, which Pierre mentions,
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it was all in response to the fanatical news story
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the claim that unmarked graves were discovered,
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The process was totally suspect from the beginning.
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True North were some of the only reporters brave enough to say
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And again, I think this is another issue where the tide is starting to turn.
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and it was edited by some very esteemed professors and PhDs.
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Dr. Flanagan, who's a retired professor at the University of Calgary,
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and Dr. Champion, who is the editor of the Dorchester Review.
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I'm pleased to say that it is doing really well.
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Thousands of Canadians, probably tens of thousands of Canadians,
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It hit number one on Amazon.ca over the Christmas holiday.
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It remains one of the best-selling books on Amazon.
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For an independent publisher, you know, True North isn't a big publisher.
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We don't have access to put books in bookstores and through all the chains.
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You know, it's not going to end up on a Globe and Mail bestseller list.
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the fact that it sold 2,000 copies in the first week alone,
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and again, it hit number one on the entire website, Amazon, over Christmas,
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I think it shows that people are really ready and willing to hear the truth.
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They suspect that something wasn't quite right about the narrative
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when the moral panic was happening about the unmarked graves.
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And again, just pleased that this is happening.
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Barbara Kay, an excellent columnist and journalist over at the National Post,
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Successive residential school books shows that writers don't need big publishers.
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And she talks about how important it is that Canadians talk about this,
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including Pierre Polyev, who, again, has finally come around
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It does take some political courage to touch an issue like this
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and the left will do everything they can to demonize you for even talking about it.
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And I want to make special note to some reporting we did at True North
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Cosman is a senior reporter here at True North,
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and he just did a tremendous job reporting on the Christian churches.
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He documented every single time a church was vandalized
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or burnt to the ground in the wake of that news story.
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Remember the time when everyone was sort of excusing it?
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This is one of the most read news stories in the history of True North and our website.
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It continues to get a lot of views because we put it all together in one place
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This wasn't just a one-off incident where a church was being burnt down
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on this side of the country and then again over here.
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This was a targeted attack at a religious community,
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So Cosman's reporting was picked up by multiple international news agencies
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and media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal.
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which is a U.S. think tank focused on national security and policy,
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and he talked about how Christians are being targeted in Canada.
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So I want to bring Cosman Georgia on to give us a little bit of an update about his reporting.
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So Cosman, thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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So just tell us a little bit about sort of the origin of this reporting.
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What did the process look like, and what was the initial response?
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So we were seeing an increasing number of these incidents,
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of vandalism, of fires breaking out at churches,
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and I noticed there was really a gap in the media reporting.
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Nobody compiled all of the incidents in one place,
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and I thought the most effective way of doing that was putting it all on a map
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so people can see how widespread it really was.
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these fires, these acts of vandalism are happening across the entire country.
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I don't think there's a single province that hasn't been,
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that is untouched by these acts of hate against Christians, quite frankly.
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And so it was really useful to show the gravity of the situation in a visual way
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for people to really understand what's happening.
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And do you remember, like, you know, when it first happened, right?
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This is, we're talking about 2021, so two and a half, almost three years ago.
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It was like five or six, then it bumped up to 12,
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and this was probably several months into the actual burnings happening,
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I think we were up to 36, 30-something acts of vandalism and fire.
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and it's been happening continuously since then.
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And I think, like, every month there's an act of vandalism, multiple acts, actually,
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because we're at 96 now, and it's only been about two years.
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You've analyzed the information, done your own original reporting.
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How is it that they haven't been caught or stopped?
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Do you believe it's sort of random or just sort of individual vigilantes?
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Like, what is driving this, and who do you believe is behind it?
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Well, I definitely think the narrative around residential schools,
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It's just a broad brush of Christianity that's being attacked right now.
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And so I think a large motivating factor was how the media and politicians
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in this country spawned the narratives about the so-called, you know,
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And we haven't even turned up a single phone yet.
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and almost gave a green light to all of these subsequent acts.
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You know, it's so interesting that you say that.
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I remember the Liberal Minister of Heritage at the time
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so the bill that censors networks like True North
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He said that that would address the church burnings.
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We had public figures, including the head of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association,
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an organization that's supposed to be defending human rights
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and individual rights like the right to freedom of religion.
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She tweeted in the wake of all of this, burn it all down.
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We had Gerald Butts, who's Justin Trudeau's at the time,
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his principal secretary and his assistant, his best friend.
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He said that it was understandable that these churches were being burnt down.
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NDP MP Nikki Ashton actually celebrated the toppling of the statues
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The toppling of the statue of Queen Elizabeth II,
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and as well as Queen Victoria, saying that these were acts of decolonization
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and then including a little heart emoji for good measure.
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So rather than the figures, establishment figures and leaders in this country
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condemning these acts of violence against a religious group,
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I mean, it's essentially incitement in some cases because it creates a climate
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where people feel like they can do this without consequences
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because our political leaders, rather so-called leaders, are not condemning it.
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and there hasn't been one single committee to investigate this.
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it is also sad that the conservatives have not pushed an investigation
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into these acts because we could potentially cross the line
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into acts of violence, whether it be a direct or a mistake.
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Well, and also, how would you just feel as a member of that congregation?
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Would you really feel safe going to church every Sunday
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knowing that your religious community is being targeted,
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that the church up the street was burnt down or vandalized?
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because recently, I mean, I'm talking about very recently,
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January 22nd, I played the clip off the top of the show
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and said that there's no justification for burning down churches
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But again, you know, this is two years after the fact,
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two and a half years, maybe three years after the fact.
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is there any effort to sort of uncover who's behind this
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or investigation to hold the people who have done this to account?
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The latest one I know of was in Coronation, Alberta,
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where a 23-year-old man was arrested after a church went up in flames.
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I think a woman in Vancouver splashed paint on a church.
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This was pretty close to the residential school claims,
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But there's no broad, you know, hate investigation happening here.
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They are not looking into the political motivations
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and the, you know, the hatred that exists behind these acts.
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And also, there hasn't been some national approach to this.
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It's just single police forces investigating the incidents
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as being isolated when, in fact, there is a pattern here.
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And there's so many of them that we need to start considering
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or at least looking into how they might be connected,
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or actually a network of people coordinating this.
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to point out the obvious of what's happening in our country.
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I was pleased that Tucker Carlson brought this up
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The fact that he had that number right on the tip of his tongue
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And thanks for all the work you do here at True North.
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I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.