Juno News - February 03, 2026


Conservative MP SLAMS Carney's crime crisis


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In the wake of a home invasion that left a homeowner dead, the Conservative Party's proposed "Castle Law" has come under fire. Could a similar law have prevented the homeowner from being killed by masked intruders in the first place?

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00:00:00.000 Suspects in connection with a deadly home invasion has raised questions about the
00:00:09.720 conservative party's proposed castle law. Could that have saved the life of a homeowner in this
00:00:15.140 particular case? Peel police have arrested and charged seven men from Toronto suspected of
00:00:20.600 forcing their way into a Mississauga home back in October 2024. The homeowner of 55-year-old
00:00:28.320 men was shot dead. Now in his speech on the weekend, Pierre Polyev, leader of the conservative
00:00:33.860 party, talked about the need for a castle law aimed at providing legal protections for those who use
00:00:40.240 lethal force to defend their home. Let's listen. We will also protect the freedoms of law-abiding
00:00:47.100 people with a new castle law that allows you to take whatever action necessary to protect your
00:00:52.760 family against home invaders. Now for the law to apply, certain conditions would have to be met,
00:01:07.560 illegal entry, and a clear threat from armed masked intruders, all of which applied in this particular
00:01:13.340 case. Critics of the existing law say using lethal force against an intruder could see the homeowner
00:01:20.440 end up charged. That has actually happened. Question is, could the castle law have made a difference in
00:01:26.880 this case? We'll ask security expert Ross McLean what he thinks minutes from now. Meantime, the federal
00:01:33.920 government's bail laws are also under scrutiny today. CTV News with this headline,
00:01:40.300 high-risk sex offender rearrested within two hours of latest release.
00:01:45.040 The 36-year-old suspect released from custody in Guelph Provincial Court. This post by Melissa
00:01:52.760 on X. This is insane. A high-risk offender was released and rearrested within two hours of being
00:02:00.180 released. He has a history of violence and sexual assaults on strangers. Not the first time for a
00:02:07.940 situation like this either. Why is our government putting Canadians at risk? It's not safe.
00:02:14.820 Our guest is Larry Brock, Conservative MP for the writing of Brantford Brant. And Larry posted this
00:02:20.220 on X. Released, re-offended, rearrested, all within two hours. Welcome to the show, Larry.
00:02:27.680 Thank you, Mark. Happy to be here.
00:02:30.420 Well, talk about that. I mean, here we have another horror story, bail-related,
00:02:35.040 where people who really should not be on the streets, suspected of heinous crimes,
00:02:40.180 dangerous individuals are right back on the street. I mean, this is
00:02:43.080 getting beyond ridiculous now, isn't it? It truly is. This is a pattern that we have
00:02:49.920 seen consistently for the last 10 years. It is a pattern that I saw when I was in the trenches
00:02:56.740 working as an Ontario Crown Attorney, all stemming from the change of policy by this Liberal government
00:03:05.100 under Justin Trudeau and now with Mark Carney to prioritize the interests and the benefit of the
00:03:12.320 accused at the expense of victims and community safety. 2019, they ushered in Bill C-75, which brought
00:03:20.580 in the principle of restraint, amended the criminal code under Section 493.1, and dictated to judges
00:03:28.980 and JPs who hear bail hearings every single day across this country that you must release the accused
00:03:35.520 at the earliest opportunity on the least restrictive conditions. That was, in my opinion, the origin
00:03:42.780 of catch and release. People are just getting sick and tired. I know police are frustrated.
00:03:50.100 Premiers have called out for this government to finally wake up to the realities that are happening
00:03:55.620 in our streets. Mayors are crying out for change. Police chiefs, victim advocacy groups, politicians such
00:04:03.280 as myself. And what it's going to take for this government to finally realize that we've got a problem
00:04:09.280 here and to realize that their number one job as a federal government is to keep us safe. Well, it remains
00:04:16.440 to be seen whether or not any of their justice bills that are currently before the House of Commons,
00:04:24.340 C-14 and C-16, is going to make the necessary changes to keep us safe.
00:04:30.400 Speaking of those two pieces of legislation, the Liberals are saying, well, now it's the leader,
00:04:35.800 here, Polyev, who's obstructing the progress and the movement of that. I mean, clearly things were a
00:04:44.660 lot better before the Liberals took over on this front, but they've shown an indication of looking
00:04:49.600 to bring in legislation that will improve things. You've had a look at it. What do you think? I mean,
00:04:56.460 who's obstructing what now?
00:04:58.120 I will start by saying that narrative that started before Christmas and continued to pick up steam
00:05:06.120 after the new year leading up to the return of the House was an absolute lie, Mark. At the Justice
00:05:15.000 Committee, they chose, the Liberals and the Justice Minister chose to prioritize the very divisive Bill C-9
00:05:25.520 that was before the Justice Committee. They made a backroom deal at the very last minute
00:05:32.380 to actually support a Bloc Québécois amendment to take away a religious exemption that has been
00:05:40.080 part of the criminal law for the last four decades. And that was a red line that we weren't prepared
00:05:46.940 to cross. We heard from faith leaders right across this country absolutely concerned with the potential
00:05:54.260 of criminal prosecution by simply reading out passages from their holy books. So instead of
00:06:02.060 prioritizing C-14, they chose the opposite. One week before the Christmas break, Mark, our party brought
00:06:10.120 forth 19 separate motions at the Justice Committee to prioritize C-14 and deal with the Bail and Sentencing
00:06:20.980 Reform Act because we knew this is what Canadians wanted. This is what stakeholders wanted. And each
00:06:28.700 and every time, Mark, they refused our ability to pivot to bail. So they can't have it both ways. They
00:06:37.100 lied to Canadians saying that it was the Conservatives that were posturing, that were obstructing,
00:06:43.780 that were preventing them from getting to this particular study. The proof is in the pudding. It didn't
00:06:50.220 happen that way. So our leader has now taken the appropriate approach. We are prioritizing these
00:06:57.360 justice bills because we need to deliver results for Canadians. Tomorrow, we actually start at the
00:07:04.320 Justice Committee clause by clause consideration of Bill C-14. We've got resources marked, believe it or not,
00:07:12.080 all the way to one o'clock in the morning on Thursday to ensure that we have sufficient time
00:07:18.860 to deal with all of the amendments to make that bill stronger.
00:07:23.540 It sounds like they want to use that bail reform bill as a bargaining chip in order to try to push
00:07:29.700 through Bill C-9. You would know better than I what they're up to here. But I mean,
00:07:35.920 put this as being an election issue, I mean, there's a lot of talk that we may be headed to the polls in
00:07:42.080 2026. And I think the Liberals want to be seen to be doing something on bail reform, which is clearly
00:07:48.300 something they're not interested in since, let's face it, over the last 10 years, they've done nothing
00:07:53.000 in that regard, except make things worse when they first got in. So go ahead.
00:07:58.600 I found it rather ironic in his end of year interview, this is Sean Fraser, when he interviewed with the
00:08:04.700 national press, that, you know, the Liberal government and he and his office were listening
00:08:11.360 to Canadians. Well, where was those listening skills literally for the last 10 years? And
00:08:18.000 specifically since my election in 21, I have been rattling the chains trying to bring this to the
00:08:25.500 attention. I have been crisscrossing this country, Mark, doing town halls in every single province and
00:08:31.440 territory. Everyone is consistent in the messaging. Please wake up federal government and give us
00:08:39.800 results. We have to prioritize communities, justice for victims, no more excuses for criminals.
00:08:49.060 Can you throw in a matter of a comment regarding the castle law, which the leader spoke about,
00:08:57.720 as you know, in Calgary, and whether or not that might have made a difference? And it's hard to
00:09:03.720 tell. And I realize that we're talking about hypotheticals here, but just we just see seven
00:09:08.460 people arrested in the case of Mississauga, a matter in which a home was invaded and the homeowner
00:09:15.340 ended up being shot dead. Yes. Heartbreak story. Absolutely heartbreak. It is, I guess,
00:09:21.880 is a testament to the good investigative techniques by that local police service. It did take a while
00:09:29.980 to put all the pieces together. Charges have now been laid. What started off as a home invasion with
00:09:36.880 the intent to steal turned into a deadly consequence. And that's generally what happens with home invasions.
00:09:43.360 There is always that prospect that victims who have every right to defend their home, defend their
00:09:51.480 assets, defend their lives, defend their family, are often disposable assets when it comes to these
00:10:00.540 criminals. So the leader has come out very strong. I was part of a press conference last summer in
00:10:08.000 Brampton, where the leader introduced a policy, asking Mark Carney and the Liberal government to
00:10:14.660 poach this idea. And the idea was a castle law type of policy. He called it the stand on guard policy to
00:10:24.220 flip the legal test to empower homeowners that have to make that split second decision mark. Literally,
00:10:33.680 you know, within seconds, do I hide? Do I run? Do I fight back? Do I defend my assets and protect my life
00:10:44.240 and to protect my family? We want to make sure that the law is abundantly clear that the actions you take
00:10:51.880 where you fear bodily harm and or death results in you making decisions that are deemed to be reasonable
00:11:01.360 up front, as opposed to the current regime, Mark, that allows a judge some several months, if not several
00:11:09.660 years removed after the fact, sitting in their comfort of their chair in a courtroom, deciding on an
00:11:16.940 eight-part test, trying to determine on those eight grounds whether your actions and all the circumstances
00:11:25.340 were deemed to be reasonable. It has led to convictions. It has led to complete upheaval for homeowners who
00:11:34.380 simply wanted to defend themselves, the expense of going through the court process, hiring a lawyer,
00:11:41.060 the embarrassment, the time commitment, the constraints on your family, on your job, completely
00:11:47.340 unnecessary. So our view is this. If we can change the law to reflect and to deal with the rising level
00:11:55.020 of home invasions, violent, deadly home invasions in this country, it hopefully will put a pause on
00:12:02.280 police services with a new law to decide appropriately that the actions taken by that homeowner were
00:12:10.940 reasonable. We have a case in Calgary, if you remember, not too long ago, which resulted in a
00:12:16.280 homeowner making that split-second decision to defend herself. And the Calgary police services
00:12:23.480 applauded her actions. That is common sense laws or common sense approach by law enforcement. We want
00:12:33.820 to give them the tools. We want to make sure that we send the appropriate deterrent message as well
00:12:40.500 to these would-be brazen criminals that you are literally taking your own life in your hands should
00:12:50.300 you decide to violently enter someone's castle and use a weapon in circumstances that you were prepared
00:12:58.380 to end someone's life. It could be. Larry, thank you. I appreciate your comments and appreciate you
00:13:06.720 coming on the show today. Happy to do that. Happy to come back, Mark. Thank you very much.
00:13:11.440 Larry Brock. Our guest today is former law enforcement officer and bodyguard to the billionaires,
00:13:16.800 Ross McLean, who is also a host of the McLean Chronicles. Welcome, Ross.
00:13:21.300 Yeah, good to be with you, especially on this topic. I think it's something I can add some info to for the
00:13:26.560 viewers and listeners. Yeah, absolutely. And we look forward to that insight because you bring in a law
00:13:32.060 like this, and it can either be a great thing for people looking to defend their own homes, or in the eyes of
00:13:38.980 some, it could turn the country into the Wild West. I mean, I don't think that that's the case, but that would be the
00:13:44.560 argument against it. So in this particular case that we spoke about earlier, you had an individual,
00:13:50.240 a 55-year-old man in his home, four individuals, masked, broken, forced their way into the house,
00:13:57.960 and they were armed, and the homeowner ended up being shot dead. Someone else in the home ended up
00:14:05.080 being shot. Could a case like this, and I realize it's hard to be hypothetical because there are a lot of
00:14:11.500 unpredictable things that might have happened, but I don't see how it could have ended up much worse,
00:14:15.780 except maybe the other person ending up dead too. What do you think in a case like this? Could a
00:14:20.460 castle law have helped save this individual? Absolutely, it could have helped save this
00:14:25.640 individual, in my opinion. Let me tell you why. These bad guys, when they're planning to break in,
00:14:31.040 obviously when they brought their guns, they're planning on using those guns, or they have the ability
00:14:35.700 to use them, which can end your life in a heartbeat. And when you're in your home, you have to try to
00:14:40.440 defend yourself. The joy for these people who come in and do these home invasions, Mark, and some of
00:14:46.100 them come from other countries to come here to do the home invasions. They're not even citizens, 1.00
00:14:50.900 because they know that it's easy pickings here. They come in because they have the guns, and they
00:14:55.200 know what they can do. Let me give you a real-life example. It used to be back in Florida, when I used
00:15:00.220 to send executives down to Florida, we used to tell them when they would get a rental car at the airport,
00:15:05.240 take off the license plate thing that says Hertz rental car on it. You know why? Because in Florida,
00:15:11.720 residents are allowed to register guns to their cars. The bad guys wait outside the airport, they look
00:15:18.020 for these rental things on the cars, and they rob you, because they know you don't have a gun.
00:15:23.700 So your ability to commit a crime is directly inverse to your likelihood of being caught, or being
00:15:29.160 badly hurt doing the crime. So a castle law would have helped in this case. And for the law to apply,
00:15:36.200 certain conditions would have to be met. Now, obviously, we're nowhere near the passage of any
00:15:41.160 such law, because the conservatives are in opposition. But you would have to have illegal
00:15:45.320 entry. You'd have to have a clear threat by armed, masked intruders, which certainly applies in this
00:15:52.620 case. So I would think that the criterion would be met in this particular case. And I guess you have to
00:15:58.340 also factor in the deterrence aspect to it. I mean, if they know that you, you are a firearms owner,
00:16:06.840 then there might, might be a lot less likely to break into your house. What do you think?
00:16:13.060 Yeah, absolutely. And the police, and as you know, I'm former law enforcement, they, in Canada,
00:16:18.460 they've been doing this all wrong, in my humble opinion for it. And so have the courts. They talk
00:16:24.380 about when someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, you're sleeping, they had one case
00:16:28.200 where a guy came in with a crossbow, and was pointed at the guy when he came in, and they wanted to
00:16:33.060 charge the homeowner in that case with excessive force. Look at, I know how to fight, I know how to
00:16:38.640 look after myself, Mark. And let me tell you, someone comes at me in the middle of the night,
00:16:43.120 or anywhere, I don't know what they're trained to do. I don't know what it takes for me to put them
00:16:48.100 down, so they won't get up. So they won't get up and go for that knife they have beside them,
00:16:52.940 or the other gun that they have beside them. I am going to put them down. And it's the exact
00:16:58.340 same thing police do. You go pull a firearm or point a crossbow at a cop, you're going to be,
00:17:04.260 you're going to get a little lead awakening is what you're going to get pretty quick. I don't even think
00:17:08.380 they would go to the taser. So they've been judging people saying, oh, you just should have
00:17:12.920 knocked them down. You just should have held them. You can't use excessive force. And these homeowners
00:17:17.000 who did not invite this break and enter guy are broken into, and they're facing hundreds of
00:17:23.500 thousands of dollars in legal fees, possibly going to jail, all because criminals broke right into
00:17:30.480 their home. It can't, it can't go on that way. And the police and our politicians better start having
00:17:36.720 a talk about this because it's not right the way that they're doing it. It's not the way the police
00:17:40.600 defend themselves. It's not the way any politician would have to be defended by somebody. So it should
00:17:46.540 be good enough for the poor little taxpayer who has a home to try and let his family live, Mark.
00:17:51.960 Yeah. Sometimes the police officers have different takes on this. Like they say, no, let us do
00:17:56.460 that work. You know, don't do anything yourself. You're not trained. Just, you know, hang back and
00:18:03.280 let the criminals do what they're, what they're doing. And in fact, in one case, a famous case in
00:18:09.240 which the police chief came out and said, well, make sure your, the keys to your vehicle are handy so that
00:18:14.280 they won't have a hard time locating it. So they can steal your vehicle a lot easier, you know,
00:18:19.620 kind of thing. And of course we have even the former prime minister. I haven't heard from this one.
00:18:24.860 The newer guy talk about it, but Justin Trudeau said, well, we don't defend ourselves in Canada.
00:18:29.940 No, we just stay back. We're passive. We're like sheep. When somebody wants to rob us, we just allow it
00:18:36.100 to happen. I don't think that's, that's good. That guarantees you're going to get robbed.
00:18:40.800 It's none of this is based on real life. And these judges who decide these things in the Supreme
00:18:47.060 Court, they are all wacko in a bubble. Let me tell you, judges are treated and pampered here like
00:18:55.080 royalty. They don't understand what it is to have someone break into their house or stalk them
00:19:00.360 because there's a whole setup of law enforcement to protect them. They have people who put their robes
00:19:06.100 on for them, carry their books for them, put them in limousines for them. They don't know what it is
00:19:11.520 to do this. And they decide on the head of a pin. Oh, I think that was just a little bit too much
00:19:16.940 force. And you shouldn't be able to do that. Yet all the force in the world would be used to defend
00:19:21.340 them, Mark. So I think we really do have to do pick up the game a little bit. I'll just tell you
00:19:27.100 one anecdotal story. Someone in the recent past, there was somebody who was meaning to cause a lot
00:19:33.480 of trouble at this one protected private, let's say, organization that was doing something.
00:19:40.900 And the police happened upon them and managed to stop them and everything else. And I talked to the
00:19:45.880 officers who were making the arrest. And they suggested, we really wish your guys would have
00:19:51.040 got to them first, because you'd have been able to deal with them better than we would have dealt with
00:19:54.980 them. Because we just, we just put the arm on, took them and arrested them. So even the police
00:19:59.360 in the street, they know what it is to have to protect yourself. They want to go home every night.
00:20:04.340 Well, Mark, so does every father. So does every father and mother want to go home and look after
00:20:10.000 their children. Yeah, it is interesting. You raised Florida earlier. The law enforcement officials here
00:20:18.120 say, you know, you'd be doing us a big favor if you could shoot dead. Anybody breaks into your house
00:20:22.460 would save on some of the paperwork and having to charge the person. But the attitude is very
00:20:29.600 different. And interestingly enough, Carolyn Levitt, the White House spokesperson, just posted
00:20:36.340 something about the crime rate in many American cities being at a record low. Look at cities like
00:20:42.060 Washington, D.C., for instance, where Trump sent in the feds to basically bring peace and stability to
00:20:51.820 the streets. And it worked. So people are allowed to walk around freely in cities like Washington and
00:21:00.220 New Orleans. So it works. But it's a very different attitude. But I don't think for a minute that our
00:21:06.220 current government, and it's in the midst of a gun grab, would defend anybody's right to defend
00:21:14.180 themselves in their own home. It's absolutely outrageous. But that's the nature of the government
00:21:18.600 we have in there right now. What do you think? Yeah, I think that the attitude or the feelings
00:21:23.900 of the actual people, the real grassroots people, they know what it is. They know exactly what it is.
00:21:31.020 All of these politicians and, you know, liberal lefty police chiefs, they're not in touch with it.
00:21:41.000 They just say, oh, you do nothing. Wait for us to come. It's too late a lot of the times, man. It is too
00:21:47.440 late a lot of the times. I can remember being an officer, putting in a call for an assist PC.
00:21:52.740 And I'd have, you know, 20 other coppers there in 45 seconds. So bail me out. And you know what 0.99
00:21:58.640 that 45 seconds felt like? Felt like 45 days, Mark. You know, let alone you're looking at 10,
00:22:04.080 15 minutes to a 911 call to get to your house if someone's breaking into your house and threatening
00:22:08.520 your family. Let's talk a little bit about the bail issue. And I realize it's a different issue. But
00:22:14.360 again, we're into a philosophy and ideology by a government that seems to favor the victim
00:22:20.460 or the perpetrator rather than the victim. In this case, we had yet another sort of bail
00:22:27.340 horror story, if you will, the high risk sex offender rearrested within two hours of latest
00:22:33.580 release. This is, you know, there's a 36 year old suspect released from custody in Guelph
00:22:39.800 Provincial Court. And it's just, you shake your head at how often this happens. It's so dangerous.
00:22:47.100 No wonder so many people, women feel unsafe on the streets with these provisions, these bail
00:22:52.840 provisions that allow perps right back on the streets. Well, what do you think of this latest
00:22:57.320 case? Yeah. And let me tell you something. Go ahead and Google AI, search that all you want. You
00:23:03.820 won't be able to really find out the details of why this guy was such a high risk offender. We don't
00:23:08.860 know if it's something as simple as running up and grabbing someone from the behind, which I don't
00:23:13.240 think it was, to something really, really, really egregious. They don't put that out there. So you
00:23:18.860 don't even know as the public what you're defending yourself against. I know police chiefs from all
00:23:23.920 over. And I remember one police chief I was talking to there. They see this coming. They know how bad
00:23:30.940 these guys are, Mark. They know what they have done to people. And they have to put out the warning
00:23:36.500 saying, yeah, we're letting the guy out just to let you know, be on the lookout for him.
00:23:40.880 And I'll tell you what the good chiefs do. They put surveillance people all over that person and
00:23:45.900 they wait for them to make a little mistake and they're on them. They're on them to get them off
00:23:50.720 the streets because they don't want to see that happen to a citizen that's under their protection.
00:23:56.160 It could just as easily be their daughter or their wife or their sister that gets it. So the police
00:24:02.600 are absolutely hamstrung in this, unless they've got the resources to sit on all these guys. But
00:24:07.160 this is another thing, Mark. There's more of these people out there than you ever want to believe
00:24:11.380 that they're not keeping under behind wraps and under supervision. There's an actual board
00:24:18.080 that sits there, a review board, and they sit on almost, I think it's 2,000 cases a year
00:24:24.300 of recidivist offenders who everybody knows is going to re-offend. And they sit there and try,
00:24:30.340 well, they're not the worst. We have to let them go. Well, we're not positive. Even though
00:24:34.900 they're pretty damn sure they're going to re-offend and they let them out. And they're
00:24:40.000 just about everywhere. I think we have to get our legislatures back together and be able to take
00:24:45.160 these sexual offenders. And if they cannot control themselves, and it's so clear that a police chief
00:24:51.120 can tell you they're going to re-offend and they get them the next little while, they got to put them
00:24:55.660 under lock and key. Let's do an infrastructure project, Mark Carney, and put a mega prison up in
00:25:01.820 the Arctic North. And let's put them there, give them their treatment and wait until they can deal 0.92
00:25:07.460 with their impulse control. I don't want to see someone's daughter get tackled by one of these
00:25:13.740 guys and sexually abused by one of these guys because the state didn't decide that they wanted
00:25:19.540 to take the time to protect you. If you can protect your home, Mark, you should be able to
00:25:23.820 protect your daughter. Absolutely. Ross McLean, how do people get in touch with you and consume your
00:25:30.820 content online? Best place to catch me is on McLean Chronicles on YouTube or on X, Mark.
00:25:38.260 Thank you, Ross. Appreciate it. Be safe. All right, my friends, if you enjoyed this show,
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