00:00:00.000When we talk about takeaways or lessons learned, one of the things I've reflected upon about this particular incident is the extreme naivete demonstrated by so many organizations, from police organizations to government officials to you four gentlemen, specifically Mayor Watson.
00:00:20.960You all felt that this was going to go away within 48 hours. This was organized for weeks prior to these truckers and their supporters arriving in the city of Ottawa.
00:00:35.960They were coming from the West Coast. They were coming from the East Coast and everywhere in between.
00:00:42.960So how could anyone be so naive to think, given that their mandate, which was widely shared across all kinds of social media platforms, that they weren't leaving until all federal mandates were removed.
00:00:59.960How anyone could think that 48 hours from now, someone who's traveled from Vancouver, British Columbia would just say, OK, my point's been made and then return.
00:01:13.960They were there to speak to a government official. That didn't happen. So I wanted to throw that out for consideration.
00:01:23.960Now, we've heard on a couple of occasions from my colleague, Mr. Varani, who took two opportunities to describe the actions of a certain member of parliament.
00:01:34.960And I listened very carefully to your responses, Mayor Watson, and clearly your indignation with respect to that member of parliament was very evident.
00:01:45.960Comments such as that particular member giving it credibility. It's an insult to the wound.
00:01:52.960I bet I didn't hear that same indignation when the prime minister of this country was the origin, was the genesis for the anger that many people had about mandates.
00:02:04.960The same prime minister who called these people extremists, racists, misogynists, those with unacceptable views, those who don't believe in science, those who take up space.
00:02:19.960Were you concerned about the prime minister using that language, Mayor Watson?
00:02:24.960No, what I was concerned with was seeing swastika flags and seeing Confederate flags.
00:02:31.960That's not the question. Were you concerned about the prime minister's language?
00:04:47.960Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I just don't understand the relevance of this questioning and I don't appreciate the tone that the member is taking.
00:04:55.960He asked for a respectful tone with respect to members of the committee.
00:04:59.960I think the witnesses also deserve respect in terms of their testimony.
00:05:03.960He doesn't need to agree with it, but he doesn't need to be disagreeable in terms of the way he's phrasing his question.
00:05:46.960We've got testimony from your city manager, Mr. Kanolokas, who basically put on record that you were quite hesitant about even engaging in the whole thought about a mediator.
00:06:00.960Because what would that do to Mr. Trudeau's reputation?
00:06:04.960What would that do to the reputation of the federal government?
00:06:12.960His initial reaction was, we couldn't do that, and thought that doing that was going to put pressure on the federal government in terms of, you know, if we meet with them, someone else would have to meet with them, said Mr. Kanolokas.
00:06:26.960Doug Ford has been hiding from his responsibility for political reasons, Trudeau said.