Juno News - November 25, 2025
Conservative MP weighs in on Carney, Question Period, and SOARING refugee health costs
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In this week's show, we have a special guest on the show, Dr. Matt Strauss, a newly elected MP from Ontario, who has been doing some digging on Prime Minister Mark Carney and his comments about pipelines and resources.
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welcome to the fighter with chris sims i am chris sims i'm the alberta director for the
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definitely something to keep in mind okay we have a packed show for you today we actually have a
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really cool guest it's dr matt strauss remember yeah well he is now an elected member of parliament
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from ontario and he's been doing a lot of digging on committee he's speaking up on things like holding
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carny to account over these silly comments over pipelines and resources and taking a hard look
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at how much money exactly we are spending on health care and what we're getting for it in
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return so stay tuned for that great conversation but first i had to show you this clip i have to
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tee it up a little bit okay because prime minister mark carney is doing his now signature talking out
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loud but mumbling under his breath at the same time with some snotty little comment and unfortunately
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he did that again so he was overseas over the weekend he was at a g20 meeting in johannesburg
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south africa and to her credit a reporter from the cbc asked him about the trade relationship with u.s
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president donald trump asked when was the last time you actually talked to him is he returning your
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phone calls are you guys talking on text he ignored her question when he initially asked it
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to her credit she followed up with it and he actually reacted with a who cares listen to this
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who cares i mean it's a detail it's a detail i spoke to him i'll speak to him again when it matters
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i look forward to speaking to the president soon but i i don't have a burning issue to speak with the
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president about right now um when america wants to come back and have the discussions on the trade
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side we will have those discussions he doesn't have a burning issue to talk to trump about really
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this is what is so frustrating here i think a lot of us kind of got used to what former prime minister
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trudeau's approach to everything was and that was largely he didn't know anything and he just did stuff
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while wasting a bunch of money and unfortunately we're seeing the same sort of weird surfer dude
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flippant attitude thing but i don't know about you um seeing it come from carney is jarring
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i don't expect this sort of answer from a world leader much less canada's prime minister when he's
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asked a very direct question it was a very polite question it was very matter of fact it wasn't snippy
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or gotcha or weird and yet his answer is to her who cares well i can think of a few million people who
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care um you ran your entire election campaign um being the guy who can elbows up his way through
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this and land a deal with with trump so this is where it gets frustrating because ultimately it's
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normal working people the taxpayers of canada who are on the hook for this stuff okay if carney is
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digging his heels in on things like the industrial carbon tax and trump is imposing tariffs on canada
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that makes it a very bad business environment here those two things combined make it very bad
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for investors to park their money here for manufacturers of things like steel and aluminum
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to keep rolling here and they just want to take their business and go to the south where they don't have
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an industrial carbon tax and they can avoid these weird tariffs now if carney actually did his job
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as prime minister and inked a deal with trump people wouldn't have this you know rolling out of bed
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every morning to check twitter to see what new tariffs fear anymore they'd be able to have some sort of
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confidence but if that snarky little comment of who cares he's ringing a bell that's because he said
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something really similar to another female reporter a little while ago remember when he called pipelines
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boring watch this one of my questions was is this pipeline going to come so so boring it's not actually
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it is it is no but it is it is because it's look it's don't worry we're on it we're on it like we're
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on it but there is this whole world okay hands up who's working on the pipeline in this room
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so for context that was a few days ago probably two weeks ago or so and it was in toronto
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and to the host's credit she said it matters for the prosperity of people in this room
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right because of course pipelines means very good paying jobs pipelines means getting our resources out
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to market pipelines means a better more strong economy like she had a very good point there
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and so that is a strange pattern that i was not expecting to see in carney so so far we've seen
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him call pipelines boring and to a very obvious question asking about trump we've heard him say
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this all mean how is this playing out in the house of commons will people be able to get their message
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of lower taxes less waste and more accountable government through to a prime minister who calls
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important trade issues like this boring let's find out joining me now is dr matt strauss if that name
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rings a bell well of course he spoke out a lot during the lockdowns and that's actually when he
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and i connected over twitter he is now a very big deal he is a member of parliament with the conservative
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party and the official opposition his writing is officially kitchener south has speller uh doctor
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thank you so much for joining us today we really appreciate your time it's my pleasure thanks for
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having me nice to see you again are you in ottawa right now sure am yeah it's uh it's a relatively new
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office so i apologize in advance for the total absence of decor it's okay i think you're a little
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busy all right i just wanted to get your reaction uh to prime minister mark carney in johannesburg i
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don't want to put words in your mouth but when carney did win and he became prime minister i was at
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least telling myself okay well at least more of a serious person will be in charge now i won't have a
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prime minister pointing out his socks on the world stage but now i'm getting this flippant answer
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of hey when's the last time you talked to our biggest trading partners leader president trump
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and his answer is who cares what did you think about uh carney's performance there i think it's
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overall sour grapes i think he went into this campaign or the the previous election campaign
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with the proposition that he's a economic financial multi-millionaire genius and he's going to sort this
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problem out on behalf of canadians and it turns out he can't he has no idea how to sort it out
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i don't think he even really understands the problem um and so having realized that he is not
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going to be winning a trade deal like the elbows have been up the elbows have been down no trade
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deal has been forthcoming either way so to now say who cares i didn't even want the trade deal i don't
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even want to have a good relationship with the uh united states president i um it seems to me to be
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the classic fable of sour grapes of saying the grapes must be sour i didn't want them anyways
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exactly um and trying to save his face when i will point this out that he said this while on a global
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stage and i'm noticing this kind of dogged thing he's got of like trying to extend our relationship
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with europe trying to extend our relationship with other countries which you know arguably could be said
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to be a good thing i guess but it's it seems to be coming at the expense of our relationship with
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our biggest trading partner and the numbers are just there we have a board here that shows
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that the two-way trade relationship between canada the united states daily more than three billion
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dollars yearly it's more than a trillion with a t for folks who don't know a trillion is a one with
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12 zeros after it if you started counting right now it would take you 30 000 years to count to one
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trillion so yeah that's why it's a super important thing i gotta ask you you are in the house of
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commons and you do see him in person during question period is he giving kind of flippant
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answers like this does it seem like there are adults in the room across the aisle when you're
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talking about things like hey what about these tariffs hey what about our trade deal that we need
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to renew with the united states what sort of vibe are you getting if i can use that term
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okay the overall vibe of question period is it's a farce i'm sorry to say it's the worst one hour
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of my day interestingly it's the only mandatory part of a member of parliament's day like they will
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uh they will they will declare you absent and dock your pay if you don't go to question period but
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no answers are given in question period and it didn't used to be this way i'm i'm 40 now and i was
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a big political nerd when i was 12 13 i used to watch question period every day and and preston
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manning would ask substantial questions of jean kratian like you know if you send peacekeepers
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to bosnia and one of them gets hurt in this way like what will your response be and jean kratian
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would answer the question like it so something bad has happened to question period over the last
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30 years um and it's certainly no better since mark carney became prime minister no answers are
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given it's always flippant it's always uh baffle garb obfuscation uh it's very it's frankly very
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difficult to sit through well i think you're among friends to admit that you were a political
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nerd when you were 12 watching question period so you're good um it's the reason why i went to
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ottawa is because of preston manning because he said the west wants in and he wants to take things
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seriously there were some shenanigans in question period back then but i agree with you um i do think
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that it was much more substantive um i thought i think that there were more adults in the room
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and to your point uh during prime minister john kratian's reign they were taking things like the
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deficit seriously you know they they seemed to care a lot about money and the fact that we didn't want
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rampant inflation and we didn't want to be piling on the debt and that was largely to mr manning's
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credit because he was asking about it every single day but prime minister uh then finance minister
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martin did balance the budget he did slay the deficit um and i just i'm not seeing any level
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of that seriousness up and down the bench are you seeing any glimmers of hope up and down that bench
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when you're looking at it where you guys are talking about to your credit you guys point out that trudeau
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doubled the debt you point out yeah the first thing i want yeah the first thing i want to say is we
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should be so lucky is to have paul martin it's 1994 budget like that that the conservatives would
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have had a relatively easy time voting for paul martin's 1994 budget if they brought something
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like that what they what they did instead was a total bait and switch they said they were going
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to spend less and invest more they're spending more even with their ridiculous overbroad definition
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of investment by their own definition the operating expenses are going up by like 700 percent
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or sorry the operating deficit is going up by 700 percent percent um so they are not spending less
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even while they're trumpeting that they're spending less they told us in question period which again is
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far 700 times that they're going to be spending less and they aren't and the the bottom line
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literally literally the bottom line is an 80 billion dollar deficit uh which is two thousand dollars for
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every man woman and child in canada so that's two thousand dollars for my three-year-old daughter
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that's two thousand dollars for my one-year-old son but where we're we're gonna end up in debtor's
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prison uh at the rate that they're going and um it is it is the exact opposite of what they ran on
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you mentioned your children um and i don't want to get into it too personally but you have shared
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some of your experiences online with your struggles with canada's healthcare system to put things
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very mildly um and i did see you in committee going after rightly so the immigration minister
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basically in a nutshell over how many uh rejected asylum claimants so folks who basically just got
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here you know they're up in the air paperwork wise but that they were getting access to rapid
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health care that in some cases they were getting better health care outcomes or at least service
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than born canadians and people who've been paying tax pay tax dollars here now for for decades depending
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on their status um what is the situation with the asylum seeker health program
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right so the first thing to say is i my mom's a refugee like i have nothing against refugees i love
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refugees my mom's a refugee my aunt my grandma my grandpa like we they all came here fleeing
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communism uh in the late 60s uh what i brought up about that program is there's a few things so that
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program used to be 10 million dollars it's now up to 800 million dollars it's going to be a billion
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dollars next year uh so it's it's exploded it's exploded because asylum claimants have exploded uh from
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about 10 000 to 300 000 a year and i i don't want to take away health care from people who are from a
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fleeing a war-torn country with the shirt on their back but the simple fact is a lot of these applicants
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are not that um they are bogus applicants who are gaming the uh immigration system by by by claiming to be
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a refugee of some sort and so after the irb the the official body that uh reviews their applications
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determines that they are not a valid asylum claimant i.e that they are their claim is bogus
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they still get the supplementary health benefits which means dental and pharma care and occupational
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therapy and speech therapy and assistive devices and and everything that you need supplementary like
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workers insurance to get as a tax-paying canadian citizen so leaving aside the the the issue of
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of true refugees the false ones are once they're determined to be false and and you might say well
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then they leave the country do they well no it takes it takes months or years to eventually deport
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them so during that time where they're slated for deportation they're still getting more health
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insurance than anyone who doesn't have supplemental coverage from their employer sorry to ask a stupid
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question uh but i've worked on the hill on both sides of the fence why is that happening is this
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a problem within the bureaucracy of the department where they're just not following up and closing a
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case like why is that happening look i've worked in the health care system as a physician uh for my
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whole career and i'll tell you my impression of why it's happening is when it's not when it's not your
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money or my money when it's no one's money it's the taxpayers money but there's no taxpayer in the room
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yeah people just spend the money they don't care like if when if you're not the one feeling the
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pinch of the money going out the door um you're more apt to spend it on total nonsense which is what
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this is and i don't even know if they i don't even know if they know that they were doing it because
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why that clip went viral is i asked the health minister are you paying supplementary health insurance
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for um false refugee applicants once their um application has been determined to be false and she said no
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and then i said well your website says that you are and held it up for her so i don't even i don't
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even know you know all over our government i don't even know if the government knows how much money is
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is there they're pissing away on stuff no no i would i would argue that's a safe bet that they don't
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um like i said i've worked on both sides of the fence and quite often the disconnect between what was
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happening within the department the bureaucracy the permanent government and the political staff no
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matter what party it was and the minister staff was vast like you could you'd need a span bridge
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to get across it and even then they're barely speaking the same language and then if you add
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the complicating factor that it's federally funded but but provincially delivered and then you get down
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to the individual hospital level oh my goodness that is a telephone game from hell and i can see why
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taxpayers money is being wasted on it but it would also seem like a pretty simple fix like you do need to
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show your health card when you go in to get health treatment and then if you're with dental and all
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that stuff you have to show secondary id or paperwork or something you think that there'd be a way of
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flagging again not for the legitimate refugees of course but for those who have been you know rejected
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they should be on their way out or they should be you know realigning exactly how they came to canada
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so of that group of people it should be relatively quick and simple to say no uh you don't get free
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access to is it is it optical too or is it just dental do you know it is it's vision care also wow
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amazing absolutely amazing sorry i'm i'm feeling frustrated too um i have a family member who now
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suddenly can't walk uh she's been a taxpayer her entire life was a nurse her entire life and she had to
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pay out of pocket to be able to get an mri within a year or two like there was either a choice of
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you get to never not walk and not know why you can't walk and you get to wait in line for an mri for
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however knows or you can pay out of pocket and be able to go get it done quickly and i i didn't ask you
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this off the top and i'm sorry if i'm just surprising you with the question but did you see it all what
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uh alberta premier daniel smith was doing out here with health care where she's allowing doctors to do
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some parallel billing um just as a physician i don't need you to speak as an mp if you don't
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want to but can you give us any insight on that and if it's totally new to you i i accept that
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i i've read the news about it um i i haven't seen the i'm i'm very assiduous as a as now a member of
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parliament to to read the legislation when it comes and i haven't seen that so i'd be shooting a little
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bit from the hip i think what is notable is that by and large canadians understand that our healthcare
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system is not working right now like this used to in the 90s this used to be uh controversial to say
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it used to be perhaps politically fraught to say it's not politically fraught now um i think some
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politicians are still stuck in that mindset where they're um actually when i in my maiden speech i
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i told the story of how my wife almost died after not uh seeing a doctor uh or having blood work or
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getting a bed in emergency room um a year ago for six hours we waited and the first person to stand up
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and say won't that member acknowledge that everyone is getting wonderful health care was elizabeth may
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who um who i was like didn't know didn't you just listen to the story no not everyone is getting
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wonderful health care and and um i i think it's hard to say she's she's nearing the end of her career
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and i think i think stuck in a 90s mindset where our healthcare system was was a um a light onto the
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world it just simply isn't that right now so i think broadly there is receptiveness in the canadian
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population to try new things um so i wish daniel smith and all the people of alberta
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well i i hope i i honestly i do hope it goes really well i'm not i'm not sure about the the
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exact um instruments that they're um twiddling with sure but i i i think i think something is
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better than nothing when i was uh door knocking for this campaign i'm going to tell you that literally
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dozens so more than 10 more than 20 people told me that they had flown themselves or their family
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members to india to get proper medical treatment and if you told me in 2004 when i was a medical
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student at the university of western ontario that droves of people would be flying to india to pay
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out of pocket for proper medical care uh my job would hit the like i would have said you were taking
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drugs that's yeah it's incredible it's wild um i've worked with second street uh one of my former
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colleagues is over there right now and it's report after report after report where people yeah they're
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they're flying to other countries if they have the means um in order to try to get like normal
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health care and this isn't like star spangled you know crazy stuff it's just like timely access to in
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some cases life-saving care and it's funny i'll bookend it with this you mentioned that you were
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a political nerd off the top and obviously me too um one of the earliest first government reports i ever
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read was the romano report and i remember we had a big royal commission and people flew in from all over
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canada and it was all about how we preserve the health care system going forward and i think one
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of the biggest rulings uh that came shortly after that was the language of access to a wait list is
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not access to health care and so we got to do something uh to fix this and so i just really
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wanted to thank you for highlighting the fact i are you saying it's closing in on a billion dollars with
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a b with this with a rejected asylum seeker no that's that's for the program overall overall that's for
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the 300 000 every year now i mean it didn't used to be but for the last couple years it's been about
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300 000 and they're all getting supplementary health coverage and i mean that's an open discussion like
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sincerely if if you come to canada from a war-torn country with a shirt on your back and tuberculosis
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i think we should treat you of course yeah or if you i don't know if you don't have teeth and you
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need dentures then yeah yes we should we should pay for that and um there are published numbers of
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what percent of those claimants end up being bogus it's it's a little bit difficult to parse
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because some proportion of the of those claimants are abandoned some are withdrawn or those claims
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are abandoned some are withdrawn and then some are finally rejected i think the finally rejected number
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is about 20 percent but presumably a lot of those claims that are abandoned or withdrawn are also
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bogus okay well we're going to check into that because that sounds like another drain on the
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canadian taxpayer dr matt strauss thank you so much for your time today we really appreciate it thank you
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for having me nice to see you likewise once again that is dr matt strauss uh for folks who do not follow
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him on twitter i strongly recommend that you follow him like i said off the top uh he really rose to i
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would say public awareness and prominence outside of obviously his own work as a physician uh during the
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lockdowns and he was calling out government overreach quite bluntly and clearly repeatedly uh and so to his
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credit uh he was one of the courageous ones who is speaking up against government overreach at that time
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and some of the personal stories he's sharing there uh both with his family uh that did flee communism
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uh as refugees so he talks a lot about that he also talks a lot about his own personal experience not
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just as a physician but his own family's experience as canadians with the healthcare system and what that
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is like and he curates those stories online so definitely head on over to twitter and x and follow
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dr matt strauss yeah he is currently a member of parliament for kitchener south hespeller folks
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i'm so glad that you joined us today because this is where we get these serious policymaker conversations
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from people who have real world on the ground experience and if you're a physician right in the
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thick of it if you're a medical doctor right in the thick of it and now you're a member of parliament
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that is really valuable experience let's all hope that experience like dr stouse's experience can
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actually form better policy because at the end of the day as taxpayers as canadians we deserve better
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from our government keep in mind how much we are spending okay on things like our healthcare system
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look at how much we are spending on our healthcare system and what kind of service and work and help
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we're getting in response is this really worth it is this the best way to go are politicians in ottawa
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spending your money very thoughtfully are they being careful with every nickel take a look at that terrible
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budget look at look at mark carney prime minister mark carney overspending overspending by about 80
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billion dollars and that's just this year and then when reporters turn around and ask him very
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serious questions about things like pipelines and our trade relationship with the united states
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