Juno News - Conservatives push to remove House Speaker Greg Fergus

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00:01:24.560 Hello and welcome to this edition of The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.

00:01:29.100 I am not indeed Andrew Lawton. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian

00:01:34.440 Taxpayers Federation. Andrew is away on a secret assignment on an undisclosed location, and he has

00:01:40.060 very kindly asked me to take over the reins. Now, there's this really funny joke that Andrew loves

00:01:45.780 to tell at almost all of his conferences, and I laugh every time. It goes something like this.

00:01:51.180 Well, you know, back when I was in talk radio in Calgary, I used to fill in for this host named

00:01:56.840 Danielle Smith. You might have heard of her. She is now the Premier of Alberta, so I guess that

00:02:02.220 makes me Deputy Premier of the province. So if I'm filling in for Andrew, I think this makes me

00:02:08.960 third in line to be Premier of Alberta. I'm going to take it. Let's just go with that bit of power.

00:02:14.900 Speaking of power, there's a current power struggle happening in Ottawa, and not just the usual kind.

00:02:21.540 See, most of the time you've got the leader of the opposition and the Prime Minister of the

00:02:25.600 government having a tit-for-tat across the House of Commons. And there's usually someone sitting

00:02:31.500 there in the Speaker's chair. He or she will be sitting there in those fancy black and white robes.

00:02:37.220 They usually look like a judge. So quite often people will describe that role as a role of a

00:02:44.060 referee, somebody who just keeps order. Well, things are definitely getting out of order in

00:02:49.820 Ottawa. It's getting so intense right now with the role of the Speaker that the opposition,

00:02:54.400 the conservatives are now calling for the speaker to be replaced, to step down. So we're going to

00:03:00.600 get right into that. And if you like parliamentary procedure, going back into the history of it and

00:03:06.400 the role of all that stuff, you are just going to nerd out with me in a second. But I wanted to get

00:03:11.100 to something really serious off the top here. We don't have a guest on it, but this is something

00:03:15.960 that as a journalist for a long time, it didn't matter if I was hosting, didn't matter if I was

00:03:20.460 a beat reporter, I would often go cover the food bank, no matter what city or town I was

00:03:26.400 living in, because I always found it was a really good indicator to meet people where

00:03:31.400 they were at and to get a really good on the ground gauge of how much people were struggling

00:03:37.820 financially, right?

00:03:39.320 People often talk about poverty and things like that, but depending on your goalposts,

00:03:43.860 that can be hard to define.

00:03:45.760 But man, if you're going to a charity to get food, to feed your family, you're in some serious financial distress.

00:03:53.620 And I wanted to raise this with you on the show.

00:03:55.920 I think we have a graphic from the National Post.

00:03:59.480 Pull it up there, Sean, no problem.

00:04:01.320 So this is in the Financial Post this morning.

00:04:03.640 Canada is at a critical turning point as poverty worsens, Warren's report.

00:04:08.940 Visits to food banks up 50%, 5-0.

00:04:13.780 and that's since 2021. So we are now, you know, pre and post lockdown here looking at those

00:04:21.720 numbers. And the reason why I'm raising this is again, it is a key indicator as to where people

00:04:27.540 are at financially. So I usually use two indicators. There's one that is the MNP report

00:04:33.740 that comes out, I think it's quarterly. And that's where they ask a question, something like,

00:04:38.440 how are you doing financially, right? Can you gauge where you are financially? And right now,

00:04:44.480 I think it's around 54% of Canadians say something like, I'm within $200 of not being able to make

00:04:53.240 my bill payments this month. And to be clear, that's not paying off a credit card or a line

00:04:59.380 of credit. That's making the minimum payments on those sorts of things and paying off your

00:05:04.220 utilities bill and buying food and paying for rent or mortgage. So now we've got a hovering

00:05:09.960 level of around 50% of Canadians saying they're within 200 bucks every single month.

00:05:16.400 Folks, that is what is called living paycheck to paycheck. Okay. And then if you go a step further,

00:05:23.500 the folks who can't make that work are the ones who are going to food banks. And I wanted to

00:05:29.320 really stress this element quite often we will hear uh the good folks who are working at these

00:05:34.360 food banks often many of them are volunteers coast to coast they'll say something like this

00:05:39.320 over the last few years we are seeing increasing demand from working families what that really

00:05:46.920 means though because it can kind of sound smoothed out right you hear that term oh you know increasing

00:05:52.520 demand from working families okay not okay if you actually break down what those words mean

00:05:58.360 and think about it, that means that a parent who's holding down a job is nonetheless counting

00:06:06.340 on donated jars of peanut butter and cans of applesauce to feed their kid in Canada.

00:06:14.740 So I wanted to raise this with you off the top because it's pretty darn important.

00:06:19.060 And if we're seeing, I think the stat in that report, go check it out in the Financial Post

00:06:23.200 later on. The stat in that financial post report, I think, was one quarter of young Canadians between

00:06:30.420 the ages of, I think, 18 and 26 had reported using a food bank in the past year or so. A quarter.

00:06:38.560 So that is a startling number. And you're going to hear this brought up in the House of Commons,

00:06:43.240 and they're going to go ballyhoo back and forth. And the NDP will probably try to use a boogeyman 1.00

00:06:48.440 of, you know, the big bad grocery store oligarch, all this stuff. And yeah, that's fun in the same

00:06:53.760 way that it's fun to say, well, we should just eat the rich and, you know, let's have a gigantic

00:06:57.620 wealth packs and take the monopoly man's money. It's a little bit childish, right? Because number

00:07:03.280 one, there's only so many boogeymen in Canada. There's only so many head grocers, okay? And so

00:07:10.740 once we run out of those people, what are we going to do? Some of the key indicators when it comes

00:07:15.960 to grocery prices are things like inflation, okay? And also transportation costs. So you've

00:07:22.680 got two major elements right now that is right at the foot of the Trudeau government that are

00:07:27.960 causing these inflationary pressures on food prices. And again, if you go check out the latest

00:07:33.800 inflation report, you will see that grocery inflation, I think is at over 20%. So pretty

00:07:40.740 surprising stats there. You know, they're getting back to our top story though, and this is dealing

00:07:45.820 with the Speaker going back into the House of Commons. There is a class of people here in

00:07:50.260 Canada who sure don't have to use the food bank, and that is members of Parliament, the Prime

00:07:56.600 Minister, Cabinet Ministers, and people who fulfill the role of Speaker, okay? Now, what is

00:08:03.280 happening right now is the opposition Conservatives are calling on the Speaker of the House to be

00:08:09.880 replaced. Why is that? Well, the Conservatives say that the Speaker has crossed a boundary here

00:08:16.240 and is going into partisan territory. And Sean, I think we have that graphic that we can pull up

00:08:21.300 here. Let's see what it looks like right now. Okay, so here we are, a summer evening with the

00:08:26.560 Honorable Greg Fergus. You know, because who doesn't want to go hang out with a Member of

00:08:30.880 Parliament in the summertime on June 4th? So the event details, no, starts in French, ends with

00:08:36.460 English. Sounds kind of cheerful, right? Nonpartisan. Been too long since we've had the opportunity to

00:08:42.100 see you. We must change this, right? So, come hang out with me near the beautiful Ottawa River. We're

00:08:47.560 going to have a barbecue, good cheer, refreshing drinks, appetizing food, right? So, that kind of

00:08:53.540 sounds nice, right? What would they have a problem with that for? Well, apparently, the original

00:09:00.560 language is this. And this is what the Conservatives have an issue with.

00:09:05.820 Join us for an event, blah, blah, blah, exciting opportunity. And then it gets into some pretty

00:09:10.460 politically type language here. See at the bottom. So while Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives

00:09:15.580 propose reckless policies, blah, blah, blah. And eventually at the end there, it says,

00:09:19.260 especially in a minority parliament, we can never take our progress for granted.

00:09:23.340 Okay. So the reason why this is a big deal within the parliamentary precinct, I know this doesn't

00:09:29.560 feel like a big deal if you're in flin-flon, okay? Or if you're in Medicine Hat. But within the

00:09:34.260 parliamentary precinct, okay, the Speaker is supposed to be non-partisan, okay? The Speaker

00:09:41.880 is supposed to stay out of the fray. So typically in a posting like that, they wouldn't name the

00:09:48.180 Leader of the Opposition in that manner. They wouldn't get into whether or not it's a minority

00:09:52.440 Parliament and get into horse trading and stuff. And the reason for them staying non-partisan

00:09:58.500 actually dates back into history and it's pretty interesting. So way back in the 1300s in the

00:10:05.580 Westminster system, I told you I was going to nerd out, way back then in the 1300s, the speaker was

00:10:11.660 actually the go-between between the commoners, okay, and the monarch. So the king or queen would

00:10:19.480 say what they want done to the speaker. The speaker would then go back to the commoners

00:10:24.220 and then go back and speak to the king or queen. That's actually why it's called speaker. Because

00:10:30.740 back then, in the 1300s, some, you know, smelly peasant mustn't go directly talking to the crown.

00:10:37.560 You had to have a speaker designate to go do something like that for you. Now, fast forward

00:10:43.420 about three centuries or so, and in the 1600s, the role of parliament, the speakers in the House

00:10:49.720 of Commons as a group got more powerful. And so that role then changed. Okay. And that is when

00:10:56.420 the Speaker of the House of Commons started being more nonpartisan and taking the role very

00:11:02.460 seriously as being the arbiter of debate and all that function functionality within the House of

00:11:08.200 Commons. So for a long time now, since about the late 1600s or so in our system of government, 0.68

00:11:14.840 that has been the role of the Speaker. And the Speaker here in Canada is paid super well.

00:11:19.720 they are just shy of $300,000 per year. Like I said, no going to food banks there. They have

00:11:27.500 their own residence. Okay. It's super fancy. It's called the farm. And they actually are the chair

00:11:33.360 of the board of internal economy, which is a very important committee in parliament. So now we fast

00:11:41.500 forward to all this rigmarole. Okay. We've now got oops, right? They called it an oops. That

00:11:48.480 posting that was quite partisan about coming from the speaker. Let's pull this up, Sean,

00:11:55.000 because there was this big apology letter that the Liberal Riding Association posted. Okay,

00:11:59.820 so keep in mind each different riding in Canada has their own party riding associations, okay?

00:12:05.440 And this is them kind of doing a, I'm so sorry. Okay, so please see the following letter. This

00:12:10.860 is from the official account for the Liberal Party of Canada on Twitter X. Dear Mr. Fergus,

00:12:16.700 I'm writing to you today about an event that was posted to our Liberal website for your riding,

00:12:20.420 which had language that was partisan in nature.

00:12:22.260 So they admit out loud that it was partisan in nature.

00:12:25.280 The language that was posted on the event page of Liberal.ca was auto-populated,

00:12:30.500 standard language we use for events on our website, and was posted without your knowledge.

00:12:36.220 And as a result of miscommunication between the party and the riding association,

00:12:40.320 this language has now been corrected.

00:12:42.200 The Liberal Party of Canada unequivocally apologizes to you for this mistake.

00:12:47.260 We take full responsibility.

00:12:49.060 Signed off by the National Director of the Party.

00:12:51.540 So this is where we're at now.

00:12:53.400 But does it stop there?

00:12:54.520 No, actually.

00:12:56.100 Sean, let's start with Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland.

00:12:59.400 She was asked about this situation.

00:13:02.940 Minister Freeland, there is yet another example today of Speaker Greg Fergus engaging in partisan events.

00:13:08.640 when does the list become too long and at one point is it too much for speaker fergus to stay

00:13:14.500 in the job our government continues to have confidence in the speaker

00:13:21.120 so pretty short right but again the reason why we're getting into this is because this is a big

00:13:29.280 fundamental part of accountability okay in government the role of the speaker like we've

00:13:33.400 explained is pretty important chairs the head of internal economy they're the ones that decides who

00:13:38.440 speak in the house of commons super important and we pay them an awful lot of money okay three

00:13:42.920 hundred thousand dollars they get a fancy place they even have their own little kind of i don't

00:13:46.920 know if they have that in west block but back in the olden days when we used to use center block

00:13:50.440 they had their own little kind of lounge in behind the house of commons it's kind of a big role so

00:13:55.480 how far did this go well it actually went all the way to the top prime minister justin trudeau was

00:13:59.960 also asked about this let's roll the tape the speaker greg fergus has come under a political

00:14:04.760 attack again today from the conservatives they say a partisan message appeared on his website

00:14:10.200 your party has now apologized for that said it was a mistake so i'm wondering does this episode

00:14:14.920 in any way shake your faith in mr fergus as speaker and do you think it makes it harder for

00:14:19.480 him to do his job no it doesn't shake my faith at all i have full confidence in in gregsberg

00:14:24.280 fergus as uh as speaker of the house of commons as a thoughtful uh independent-minded leader the

00:14:31.240 issue was dealt with, was addressed by the party and by the House leader. It was an unfortunate

00:14:37.480 mistake. Well, we'll have to wait and see. So here we have the Prime Minister and his deputy,

00:14:44.360 the Finance Minister, Chrystia Freeland, both saying they have full confidence in the Speaker,

00:14:48.800 and we have the opposition, the official opposition, saying that he needs to be replaced.

00:14:53.280 So we'll be super interesting as far as Ottawa goes to see what happens there. Again, I know it's

00:14:59.220 hard to relate to this sometimes. If you're, you know, in Moose Jaw, you're like, why do I care

00:15:03.120 about what some overpaid dude or dudette in a white and black robe says? Their role is important

00:15:10.860 within our system. Taxpayers pay them a lot of money. And so this is a function of accountable

00:15:16.660 government. And it is not going to be an election issue, I don't think. I think they're going to be

00:15:22.140 able to smooth this out over the next week or so. And it won't come up during the 2025 election when

00:15:27.820 we expect all of this to happen. However, there is definitely something super spicy that is going

00:15:33.320 to be an election issue. And that is what happens to legal law-abiding firearms owners here in

00:15:40.640 Canada. For those of you who don't know, we actually have millions of legal law-abiding

00:15:45.960 firearms owners here in this country. Most of us own long guns, things like rifles and shotguns.

00:15:52.240 We use them for target practice. We use them to keep pests away from our cattle. We use them for

00:15:57.340 hunting. And in some cases, some of these firearms have been in our possession for

00:16:01.740 generations within our families. However, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government has now

00:16:07.860 pushed this issue to happen after the next election. And that issue is the so-called gun

00:16:14.700 buyback program. So I know I can hear some of the folks right now. It's not a buyback. We know.

00:16:20.440 We know that you most likely did not purchase your firearm from the Trudeau government and

00:16:26.080 therefore calling it a buyback is a misnomer. We understand. But this is going to be a very

00:16:32.160 interesting political issue because now they have pushed the so-called confiscation, the actual

00:16:38.140 function of some form of government going to law-abiding people's homes, collecting these

00:16:45.060 previously legal firearms, taking them back to some headquarters and destroying them. So that

00:16:52.140 process has not started. The government's already spent millions of dollars trying to

00:16:56.460 administrate this mess, but the actual seizure of the firearms has not rolled out yet. They have

00:17:03.380 pushed that until late 2025, after the 2025 election. So then, what kind of role is this

00:17:11.120 going to play in the election? How is all of this affecting Canadian gun owners? We're going to

00:17:17.880 check in right now with Tracy Wilson. She is with the Canadian Coalition of Firearms. Let's check it

00:17:24.340 out. I'm happy to be here. Okay, so Tracy, you are with the CCFR, which is the Canadian Coalition for

00:17:34.420 Firearms Rights. For those Canadians and our viewers and listeners on the podcast who don't 0.89

00:17:40.740 know what your group does when it comes to legal firearms ownership here in Canada,

00:17:45.600 Can you just give us a thumbnail sketch? What do you guys do?

00:17:48.920 Yeah, well, I mean, if you ask the Liberals, they would tell you that we are the evil gun lobby.

00:17:53.820 So just for those people who are watching who may not know, the evil gun lobby is a middle-aged grandma from the suburb who owns chihuahuas. 0.99

00:18:01.540 So, yeah, terrifying.

00:18:03.300 You look like Rambo, just saying, you know.

00:18:06.660 It's terrifying for Canadians.

00:18:09.020 But no, the CCFR advocates for fair and effective legislation for gun owners.

00:18:12.940 we believe there is a place for some regulation of course not the regulation we've got now but

00:18:18.680 we also advocate for credible public safety measures to reduce crime violence and gun smuggling

00:18:23.940 because after all we are just everyday average Canadians who want to save for Canada too

00:18:28.800 and that's that's basically it we do a lot of public relations work a lot of you know lobbying

00:18:34.980 I suppose although there isn't much to lobby this Liberal government over but yeah our sole focus is

00:18:42.000 getting them out of power at this point that's where we're at right okay so for folks who already

00:18:49.060 own firearms they're probably really up on this but for a lot of people who are thinking about

00:18:54.500 getting their pal thinking about eventually legally owning firearms i think this is a bit

00:18:59.280 more of a murky issue as to what's happening with the trudeau government i was at a conference a

00:19:03.920 couple of weeks ago and there were kind of liberty-minded small-minded sort of folks there

00:19:08.400 we were there to talk about the Trudeau government funding the media censorship and the carbon tax

00:19:13.360 but a lot of folks were there attending and they were asking me two things they were asking about

00:19:17.680 censorship in Canada and they were asking about the current state of legal firearms ownership

00:19:23.200 and they were really interested in this especially the Americans where do we stand right now as far

00:19:30.000 as I understand and I'm a firearms owner myself we can't have handguns so I couldn't go purchase

00:19:36.080 a handgun uh legally and right now there is a gun seizure that is brewing and going on for

00:19:42.960 certain types of long guns have i got that right where are we yeah that's right so there's been

00:19:47.440 kind of three main things that have happened to gun owners uh over the last nine years of this

00:19:52.960 liberal regime it has been an absolute battle with these people um it started back with c71 which of

00:20:00.240 course um laid down the groundwork for what they were planning to do there was a number of measures

00:20:04.960 in there making it more cumbersome and burdensome to be a legal gun owner and then of course in may

00:20:10.960 of 2020 we had the big one and that was what they call their assault style rifle ban and it's

00:20:18.640 interesting because you know by virtue of the meaning of the word if something is styled after

00:20:24.960 something it is not that thing which it is styled after so the liberals have done a really good job

00:20:29.600 at marketing this as you know getting assault weapons off the streets which is completely

00:20:34.960 inaccurate these are regular um sporting and hunting rifles uh semi-automatic limited to five

00:20:41.840 rounds you know no different than the stuff i take deer hunting right now um but you know they've got

00:20:48.000 some things like the air 15 have a bad rap and they've targeted that and used it as a political

00:20:52.880 wedge excuse me all in all they've targeted over 2 000 models and variants of firearms from legal

00:21:02.160 Canadian gun owners which amounts to about half a million guns across the country and of course

00:21:08.160 they have promised the anti-gun lobbies and their constituents that they will come to our homes

00:21:13.760 kick our doors in and seize these guns from us at some day and then of the third thing that's

00:21:18.640 happened to gun owners is c21 which was the recent legislation it enshrined the handgun freeze in law

00:21:25.120 um so this is a different type of ban it's a ban looking a forward-looking ban so i am a handgun

00:21:30.560 owner now i've got four of them i'm allowed to keep them i'm allowed to use them i can continue

00:21:35.360 uh my sport with them should any of them you know break or malfunction and i needed to buy a new one

00:21:41.600 i am out of luck it doesn't matter if you hold the appropriate license or not and of course no

00:21:46.720 new gun owners would be able to go and purchase a handgun um so yeah of course it's had the exact

00:21:53.600 effect we thought it would and has had zero impact on the crime and violence that we're

00:21:58.800 seeing across the country right and we're seeing kind of a repeat now i think of what was often

00:22:04.800 referred to as the boondoggle of the long gun registry from the liberal government of the

00:22:09.280 early 1990s and so the canadian taxpayers federation we are fighting this current they

00:22:14.480 They call it the gun buyback, but I don't like calling it that because I didn't purchase my

00:22:18.160 shotgun from the government. They're not buying anything back. They're trying to seize certain

00:22:23.280 types of firearms. And so the Taxpayers Federation got in on this way back in the early 1990s,

00:22:29.000 because we knew, of course, that this wasn't going to make Canadians safer. And we have

00:22:33.480 police organizations saying exactly that, that this is not going to make Canadians safer. They

00:22:38.420 want more cops at the border. They want more cops on the street so they can go after the illegal 0.98

00:22:43.940 cross-border trade of firearms so they can go after the gangbangers. They don't have any desire,

00:22:49.260 generally speaking, to go after legal law-abiding firearms owners. And back then,

00:22:54.660 the Liberal government said, oh, the long gun registry, it's only going to cost

00:22:58.160 two million-ish dollars. Well, of course, we now know that it ballooned to almost two

00:23:02.800 billion dollars with a B. And so it was a complete disaster. Very famously, I think someone

00:23:09.640 successfully registered a soldering gun. If I recall correctly, back in the day, I remember

00:23:14.500 reform MPs talking about that back when it was on Parliament Hill. And so again, it all comes back

00:23:19.980 to you, the CTF, Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we are now opposing this firearm seizure. And of

00:23:26.760 course, we're already getting into boondoggle territory. We already know that they're spending

00:23:31.000 millions of dollars trying to administrate this thing. And they still have not yet seized, as far

00:23:36.160 as we know, one firearm. I chuckled to myself when I was scanning through the headlines a few

00:23:41.720 weeks ago, Tracy, and apparently the Trudeau government wanted Canada Post. So post mail

00:23:48.420 carriers, letter carriers, the deliverers of Amazon boxes and birthday cards with money from

00:23:54.960 your grandma in it. They wanted them to go door to door apparently and collect these firearms. 0.96

00:23:59.620 What happened there? Yeah, well, they have run the gamut of who they could ask to facilitate

00:24:05.380 this. Of course, law enforcement wants nothing to do with it. The provinces are so unwilling to

00:24:10.460 help them. They're actually putting forward legislation to block them, fighting it in court.

00:24:16.220 They've asked the army. The army said, absolutely not. So they relied on Canada Post. And this

00:24:22.820 actually broke the news two years ago, where they went to Canada Post and said, hey, you're in a

00:24:27.000 unique position to go around and collect these firearms. I mean, you're already mailing guns

00:24:31.500 that are bought, you know, online by gun owners, what is the difference? And, you know, to think

00:24:37.400 that there's no difference between, you know, the odd, you know, nondescript box in a whole,

00:24:46.320 you know, warehouse full of other boxes, to think there's no difference between that and an influx 0.93

00:24:53.060 of half a million very obvious gun boxes collected across the country is ridiculous. And I, 0.54

00:25:01.060 I have this funny image, you know, myself, I've got 14 guns that were caught up in that

00:25:07.180 ban, two AR-15s and a variety of other guns, including a great big .50 cal for long range

00:25:12.360 shooting.

00:25:13.140 And I have this image of me rolling up to my local shopper's drug mart, you know, here

00:25:18.120 in suburban Ottawa with my little SUV and getting a couple of shopping carts.

00:25:23.040 I'm going to need at least two to load all these, you know, assault style firearms into

00:25:29.640 shopping carts wheel past all the soccer moms in uh shoppers drug mart buying their hair dye 1.00

00:25:35.080 and go straight to the back counter where the canada post um counter is and some 17 year old 0.98

00:25:41.080 kid will be there to collect my firearms from me right it's it's absolutely ridiculous it exposes 0.65

00:25:48.040 them to all kinds of risk and puts their staff in incredible public safety risk you know you'd

00:25:53.480 you wouldn't have to be a mastermind to sit out in the parking lot of a shoppers drug mart

00:25:57.800 and watch how many people like me are rolling in there with all these boxes to know that that place

00:26:02.840 would be a perfect place to hit at the end of the day or maybe in broad daylight who knows right

00:26:07.640 there they're emboldened so right yeah it's just it's absolutely insane canada post wants nothing

00:26:13.160 to do with it rightfully so and this government is exactly where they were um four years ago guns

00:26:19.160 so dangerous that you're forced to keep them for five and a half years plus right and guns so

00:26:24.360 dangerous that you want to drive up there in your rav4 with them in your little boxes and hand them

00:26:29.400 over so this is where the disconnect happens and i think i needed to clarify for people when they

00:26:34.600 when the government refers to this as assault style style is exactly the term so and again when

00:26:41.880 people hear semi-automatic i think they have this image in their mind of you know total recall or

00:26:46.680 something with arnold schwarzenegger no no semi-automatic means squeeze bang squeeze bang

00:26:54.120 there's no such thing as holding down the trigger and spraying bullets those those sorts of firearms

00:27:00.920 have been illegal in canada i believe since the early 1970s yeah since 1977 those have been banned

00:27:08.040 in canada and nobody's asking for that back no i mean no yeah those are actual you know uh i guess

00:27:15.960 what you would call um assault assault firearms but yeah it's been a really um a really effective

00:27:23.640 tool politically for them to drive a wedge between Canadians you know if you think back 10 years ago

00:27:29.400 nobody was worried about legal gun owners you're worried about gangbangers you're worried about

00:27:33.080 organized crime you're worried about maybe bikers I don't know you're worried about all kinds of

00:27:37.240 groups of people nobody was worried about your hunters and competitive sports shooters nobody

00:27:43.640 thought like that and they have you know over the years over the last nine years they have created

00:27:48.440 this divide and wedge um where you know you've got average people i see it on twitter all the time

00:27:54.780 people losing their mind over the fact that you know i go to the range on a saturday afternoon

00:28:00.680 with my grandson and uh send some lead down range it's just you know it's we're in a weird place

00:28:07.400 but um you know hopefully there's light at the end of the tunnel i wanted to get to that briefly um

00:28:13.320 because i think that's where we're heading uh so there you are in suburban ottawa my brother is out

00:28:18.200 near your way he's an arm prior and he's also a firearms owner and i think culturally you guys

00:28:24.840 have a bit more of an uphill battle because you guys are closer to the reactor you guys are closer

00:28:30.280 to ottawa and where these decisions are being made and i think closer generally speaking to

00:28:35.720 some misunderstandings about legal firearms owners and so here in canada um i was surprised actually

00:28:42.760 when i was looking at global stats so here in canada we actually have a relatively large

00:28:47.880 population of people who are legal firearms owners do you guys have estimates as to how

00:28:53.480 many of us there are here in canada yeah so there are um 2.4 million legal licensed gun owners in

00:29:00.920 canada um and another probably about 4 million people in uh peaceful but non-compliant um ownership

00:29:09.880 of firearms i you know old uncles and grandpas that live up in the mountains and don't even know

00:29:15.720 that you're supposed to have a firearms license um we if you count just the people with firearms

00:29:22.120 licenses we are the seventh most armed nation in the world so yeah wow wow and yes it's actually a

00:29:30.600 really big population of gun owners and if you think about it you know when you live in a home

00:29:35.720 and one of only one of those people's a gun owner you're still affected by it right so they the

00:29:40.600 estimates are that 25 of canadian homes um contain at least one firearm yeah and i think for a lot of

00:29:47.480 folks who didn't grow up with them it's a little bit confusing and so if i can just paint a little

00:29:51.480 picture so if you grow up in for example rural canada or even rural western canada like i did

00:29:57.480 um firearms especially long guns so rifles and shotguns things like that um they were a tool

00:30:03.400 they were no different than a chainsaw right which could be dangerous in the wrong hands you

00:30:09.080 need to treat it with respect but it performs a certain function similar to a pickup truck right

00:30:14.440 or even a snowmobile if you live up north so these were elements of rural life and if you're

00:30:20.360 a rancher for example you require these sort of things these tools in order to keep pests

00:30:26.600 away from your livestock and you know i was raised on hunted meat a lot of people were raised on

00:30:31.960 deer and moose meat. There's nothing better than having that fill up your freezer in the fall.

00:30:36.440 And so it's a really good way of feeding your family. This is an essential element of Canadian

00:30:42.520 culture for millions of people. And I think, unfortunately, some of our friends who not

00:30:49.080 always but typically live in, you know, downtown urban settings, the only familiarity they have

00:30:54.280 with firearms are things that they see on TV, things they see from American news, for example,

00:30:59.640 or the occasional you know gang shooting that happens in in our canadian cities would you

00:31:04.600 think that's a fair fair portrait i painted yeah and in fact you know i also think we also suffer

00:31:10.760 from bad branding i think for 30 years you know i've been a gun owner for 27 years i started out

00:31:16.120 as a hunter and i remember taking courses and you know be belonging to hunting groups and

00:31:21.960 they would kind of tell you to keep it keep it on the download don't advertise it don't put gun

00:31:26.360 stickers on your truck you know don't wear gun t-shirts and what happened there is i think we

00:31:31.720 we didn't really normalize it so for rural people or you know people grown up in that environment

00:31:37.960 it's totally normal but you're right for some people whether they're newcomers to canada or

00:31:43.080 people living in urban centers that are you know full of crime their only experience with firearms

00:31:49.000 is violence and that there there actually is no connection to legal gun owners um in the in the

00:31:56.200 sense of violence so you know we've got a number of initiatives that we put forward i'm going to

00:32:00.840 just do a quick shameless plug here yeah every the first saturday in june every year is national range

00:32:07.720 day and that's an opportunity for clubs and ranges and organizations and groups and even just regular

00:32:14.120 gun owners across the country to open their doors to the public i know here in ottawa on june 1st

00:32:19.240 which is the first saturday i'm hosting a massive national range day we've got you know the forbidden

00:32:25.000 bouncy castles i was gonna say you get the bouncy castles do you have to register that yeah i have

00:32:30.200 a registered bouncy castles we've got we've got a kids range set up we've got an axe attacks

00:32:35.720 axe throwing things set up um and of course the ranges will be open so you know i've been posting

00:32:41.320 it in all the suburban mom groups around ottawa saying hey get together with your girlfriends

00:32:46.600 bring your kids down there's a kids range there if they you know if they want to give it a try

00:32:51.480 if not that's cool they can play on the bouncy stuff and eat hot dogs and we've got cotton

00:32:56.040 candy and popcorn and you and your girlfriends can go shoot some guns and it's totally badass 0.98

00:33:01.400 and a lot of fun and this helps change the perception of gun owners we all know the very

00:33:06.840 best way to influence somebody's opinions about guns and gun ownership is just to take another

00:33:11.160 range. Yeah, I have a dear girlfriend in Ottawa who had exactly that experience and she's now

00:33:17.880 got a better license than I do. It's amazing. So I wanted to leave you lastly, Tracy, with this.

00:33:23.500 So now because they've hit all these roadblocks on the gun seizure, also known as the buyback,

00:33:29.060 so Canada Post won't do it. Provinces are saying no way, including Premier Daniel Smith here in

00:33:33.940 Alberta. And now it seems that the Trudeau government is kind of backed into the corner

00:33:38.120 on this and so now they've kind of delayed it until the middle of the election year 2025 i can

00:33:45.000 see this shaping up to be a wedge issue or an election issue where do you see this issue going

00:33:51.240 in 2025 well they actually um the trudeau government actually extended the amnesty that

00:33:57.160 protects gun owners who are in possession of those guns that are now deemed illegal

00:34:01.400 protects them from criminality but they extended that amnesty out past the next scheduled federal

00:34:07.080 election which is kind of interesting because you know this was an immediate crisis and

00:34:12.440 you know back in may of 2020 we had to do this right now there's no time for um for a legislation

00:34:18.760 or parliamentary debate or democracy there's no time it's an emergency we've got to ban them and

00:34:23.560 ban them through an oic right now and just have it done yet they're leaving them all exactly where 0.98

00:34:29.160 they've been for the you know the last for decades if not generations they're leaving them in the gun

00:34:34.200 safes of Canadians all across the country with no end in sight for this. And I think it's

00:34:40.520 interesting to put it out past the next federal election because what they'll say is they will

00:34:45.780 use it as an election fodder and they'll say, well, we ban these guns now. If you want them

00:34:50.700 picked up, if you want those dirty gun owners doors kicked in and all their stuff taken, 0.96

00:34:55.760 you better elect us one more time. And the anti-gun lobby groups and all of these anti-gun

00:35:01.780 groups fall for it year after year election after election and meanwhile we're just sitting here

00:35:07.940 thinking what a mess and what an absolute devastation to taxpayers because that money

00:35:13.460 would be better spent focusing on reducing illicit guns once again folks they're spending millions of

00:35:19.140 dollars on this they have not seized one single firearm yet and based on the trudeau government

00:35:24.260 track record just look out they can spend money like they can drink water uh tracy wilson thank

00:35:30.340 you so much for joining us today we really appreciate it i appreciate the opportunity

00:35:34.420 have a great day you bet so some super essential information coming from tracy there when it comes

00:35:40.340 to those of us who own firearms here in canada and really when it boils down to it this is a

00:35:46.820 property issue right this is the state deciding what sort of private property you are allowed to

00:35:54.020 have and even if you don't own firearms even if you actually don't have sympathy for those of us

00:36:00.100 who are law-abiding firearms owners, in some cases who have culturally had these tools in

00:36:05.940 our families for generations. Even if that doesn't get to you, you probably have a car or a truck

00:36:13.620 that runs on gasoline or diesel. And guess what? The Trudeau government is going to ban those too.

00:36:20.020 In fact, they're going to ban them in just over 10 years. So we have about a decade and a little

00:36:27.140 tiny bit of change before the Trudeau government says, you know what? Every single brand new

00:36:32.500 vehicle that is going to be sold within the Dominion of Canada henceforth shall not be

00:36:37.180 able to use an internal combustion engine. So no gasoline and no diesel. How on earth are they

00:36:43.100 going to be able to pull this off? And where are we going to get the energy from to juice these

00:36:48.300 electric vehicles? Joining me now is a very good friend of the program, Dan McTague. Dan, of course,

00:36:53.860 was a long-time member of parliament with a previous liberal government there in ottawa

00:36:58.580 and he is now president of canadians for affordable energy dan thank you so much for joining us great

00:37:05.940 to be here chris and thanks for that introduction it's one of those mind-boggling things right where

00:37:11.700 it seems like the government particularly the trudeau government can just say stuff and hope

00:37:17.380 things happen. But when you start asking them questions like, okay, where are we going to get

00:37:23.940 this electricity from for this utopia you are envisioning? They're lost for an answer. So in

00:37:30.620 all seriousness, Dan, do you have an answer? Where would we be able to get this energy from? If Santa

00:37:37.180 Claus brought all of us a free electric car tomorrow, how could we plug it in? And where

00:37:43.400 are we getting this energy from? Well, you're not. I mean, the fact is you can build as many

00:37:47.760 plants as you want. They can be nuclear, it takes years to build, or they can be natural gas,

00:37:51.980 which takes months to build, or they can be coal, whatever you want. It's what happens between the

00:37:57.100 plant and the actual receptacle, where you have the charge that is going to be critical. And that

00:38:04.200 infrastructure is simply inadequate across Canada. It is the elephant in the room. Everyone knows

00:38:10.340 this but it's not just of course that we have an inadequacy of infrastructure it is to get that

00:38:16.540 infrastructure you know you're going to have to mine several times more of all the mining that

00:38:22.560 we've conducted and mining by the way is a very you know in order to respect a very dirty business

00:38:28.520 if the idea the intent is that you can get around mining as a means of virtue signaling your way

00:38:34.360 and saying an ev is great for the environment yeah but how they made we can go down that road 0.98

00:38:38.740 But the reality is that we are not prepared for this.

00:38:40.960 It's funny because when Stellantis and the package that was offered for VW, here was the province saying, yeah, yeah, it's a great thing.

00:38:49.780 We'll put our money in. Where's the infrastructure coming from?

00:38:51.980 Well, we heard on the sidelines, oh, we're going to have these, you know, these small nuclear reactors, modular reactors.

00:38:59.420 Look, only at the embryonic state, they're really in the test mode.

00:39:05.440 We only have prototypes of these things.

00:39:07.340 so the idea that somehow we can wave a magic wand spend billions of dollars and this is your field

00:39:13.260 not mine of money we don't have that belongs to the canadian public which we're going to charge

00:39:17.900 children for the next 20 30 40 50 years two or three generations from now you better have this

00:39:23.060 right because the technology is evolving very quickly uh no offense chris i worked for toyota

00:39:28.240 i was public relations for toyota before i was elected member of parliament i'm biased i wrote

00:39:32.440 some of the cut lines on the hybrids that we had way back then they are not going to stick around 0.99

00:39:36.680 and do the cookie cutter type of lithium batteries. They're going to go and do other

00:39:42.660 things and they don't need necessarily the government grift to get there. The reality

00:39:46.720 is that no one has really thought this out. We're definitely not looking before we leap

00:39:51.500 and it's going to be extraordinarily disappointing, I think, for Canadians. And it's a colossal

00:39:55.960 white elephant on in making. I find that really interesting. If you don't mind me picking

00:40:00.300 up that thread that you're mentioning with Toyota. And if you don't want to go there,

00:40:04.640 that's fine we can go back to the actual energy requirements but so do you then see the puck going

00:40:10.240 elsewhere when it comes to energy and how we fuel our vehicles or charge our vehicles you don't then

00:40:16.480 see everybody just plugging in a fully electric vehicle and getting it magically i don't know from

00:40:21.760 a coal plant or a hydro dam or something like that do you see the energy requirements going

00:40:26.400 in a different direction yeah i think it's going to be diversity of transport options

00:40:30.880 uh the way in which a vehicle is actually transports runs is not going to be confined

00:40:35.840 to one type of technology which the federal government seems to be committed to sending us

00:40:39.920 towards um and whether it's my background my experience or my years of working in energy

00:40:44.080 or simply common sense the reality is i think we're looking at uh having really backed the

00:40:49.440 wrong technology now some people are gonna say well hang on a second dan it's stelantis uh will

00:40:54.320 create a lithium-based battery vw will go to a solid state battery look china is producing

00:41:00.320 batteries made on sea salt and they're a lot cheaper they're also willing to bring into

00:41:06.880 uh the four having had a 10 to 15 year advantage they looked at our markets in north america and

00:41:12.480 the west and said you know canadians americans europeans uh and japan and and uh south korea

00:41:19.440 have got us beat and licked when it comes to internal combustion engines they figured this

00:41:23.760 out a long time ago we're going to try something that no one else is really looking at that's

00:41:26.960 electric vehicles and we know that the pitfalls are substantial and the public hasn't really

00:41:32.960 understood those pitfalls until it came to sticker shock and it came to reliability and it came to

00:41:38.640 how much it's really going to cost them because no one now believes that there's such thing as a

00:41:42.640 free lunch but if we're looking at the long term by 2035 i can guarantee you internal combustion

00:41:48.800 engines are still going to be here why they're cheaper they are a lot better for the environment 1.00

00:41:54.400 that are recyclable 100 and they don't involve the kind of grifting and subsidies

00:42:01.360 i would suggest uh you know market distorting subsidies uh that uh that are offered currently

00:42:07.120 by the menu of evs as my old old uncle would have said to me some time ago dan it didn't

00:42:13.360 take henry ford a massive subsidy to displace the horse and buggy yes exactly i brought that

00:42:19.120 up on the show yesterday dan and i've talked with you about it even offline of you know what we've

00:42:23.840 had a transportation pollution crisis before in the late 1800s they had the so-called manure crisis

00:42:29.680 in you know gems of civilization in new york city and london they had piles of it they had corpses

00:42:34.800 down the street and you're right when when mr ford popularized the internal combustion engine

00:42:40.400 and had them all rolling off the assembly line it wasn't the government forcing him to do so

00:42:45.680 it was innovation actually causing this to occur through their work and through their invention

00:42:51.280 And so that was a big, big change. In fact, this is a little anecdote I wanted to let people know, and you probably already know it, of what helped save the whale. Well, the discovery of oil, of course, because up until then, we were using whale oil for pretty much everything. And so it was the discovery of what they then called mineral oil in order to differentiate it from whale oil that helped save the whale. I often like to mention that to my lefty friends.

00:43:17.140 um so getting getting back to the energy though that's required here and the electric cars this

00:43:22.500 is one of the reasons why the taxpayers federation is now in this fight so we have a petition going

00:43:27.220 it was surprisingly hot um saying you know what mr trudeau we don't want you banning our vehicles

00:43:33.380 so number one it's private property so same thing as the gun ban like back off okay this is

00:43:38.580 government intrusion this is private property two it is engendering this sort of grift in this

00:43:44.340 corporate welfare situation that exactly you pointed on here. And we've seen this show before.

00:43:50.580 So to me, I spent a long time in Ottawa, in Ontario, in talk radio. And I remember

00:43:56.740 when the so-called green energy scandal blew up in the face of the Ontario government.

00:44:01.620 This is when they were signing 20 and 30 year contracts. They were shutting down the clean

00:44:06.660 hydro dam at Niagara Falls, which sounds crazy, but they were doing it. And they were forcing

00:44:12.500 people to pay for solar and wind that they weren't using at a massive markup tens of billions of

00:44:18.260 dollars for these rate payers that they didn't need to pay are you seeing the same sort of thing

00:44:23.540 happening here are we headed for that kind of a problem when it comes to this ev mandate in a

00:44:29.540 major way it's always good to kick these things down the road but let's talk about the green energy

00:44:33.620 yeah 2009 because the province of ontario saw a doubling of average uh you know hydro rates going

00:44:41.780 from seven eight cents a kilowatt hour now always always up to a maximum 17 18 but of course they

00:44:48.980 would go to 32 were it not for the fact that the provincial government has to accept on its books

00:44:54.180 as part of debt an additional 10 billion dollars a year that's debt to offset the real effects of

00:45:03.220 green energy and so anybody who believes that you know renewables are somehow going to displace or

00:45:08.820 take away from or in any way shape or form are more energy efficient is that then what we have

00:45:15.220 the current menu natural gas backups uh hydro hydroelectric which we've had for over 120 years

00:45:21.940 as you mentioned the earlier the uh adam beck and the uh the uh the niagara falls plants and of

00:45:27.380 course nuclear my old writing first commercial operation of nuclear facilities in north america

00:45:32.580 hey look just talking about it 1965 there you go the i'll throw that back around another way here

00:45:38.420 there's there's what township of pickering 1965 september the 11th i happen to have this around

00:45:44.180 here's a coaster when i was mp we did it long before it's cool long before it's trendy because

00:45:49.220 it was a way of getting cheap energy to drive the ontario economy we've lost our way we basically

00:45:55.620 come out and said let's go with what the pied piper in ottawa and all the trendies who help

00:46:00.420 head out to the wef and have their cop you know a conference of the parties uh uh you know gab

00:46:07.300 gap baffle gabs every year to tell us how bad a job we're doing we've done a very good job we've

00:46:12.980 got a clean menu of uh of energy but to saddle it with something that is not going to lead to any

00:46:19.220 kind of appreciable decrease in emissions if in fact my grade four science is correct and says co2

00:46:25.860 is not an emission it's in fact a it's it's a neutral gas that doesn't do a darn thing out

00:46:32.360 there it's certainly in the quantities that they're talking about that aside I think Chris

00:46:36.180 we have to be very clear that this is a road to economic ruin that we have undertaken we've

00:46:42.840 allowed politicians because of those out there who are opinion leaders who basically said yeah

00:46:47.120 you have to go this way or we're going to tut tut you we're going to demonize people who who tend

00:46:52.100 resist fact of the matter is that we're doing extraordinarily well we've got a very clean

00:46:56.020 environment and we can continue to do so but we don't do it by throwing the baby with the bath

00:47:00.340 of water or pursuing these widgets that at the end of the day do nothing more than make the

00:47:04.900 country a lot poorer and a lot more canada more frustrated you know i just got to share uh you

00:47:09.860 mentioned your school days and i just share this anecdotally uh for the kids that are watching

00:47:15.140 because i'm gen x um and i in seventh grade i was in one of those nerdy classes and our entire

00:47:21.780 project for the entire year was survive the coming ice age no straight up like because this is what

00:47:28.260 all of us thought were coming and of course if things are dark and cold you're going to starve

00:47:32.420 to death that is very bad for human beings if you're living in an actual ice age and so i just

00:47:37.940 want to share that i with everybody thought this was happening the teachers all thought it was

00:47:42.660 happening it was a serious project we all did work on it i think i still have the blueprints around

00:47:47.300 here somewhere and so you know I raise that because even if I always try to meet people

00:47:52.980 where they are okay like as a host or just trying to be a nice person I'll meet them where they're

00:47:58.020 at and even if I say okay I'll take you where you are if you truly think that emissions are the

00:48:04.740 biggest problem right now in the world that you're facing it keeps you up at night okay let's talk

00:48:08.820 about that even if Canada ceased to exist god forbid we stopped we stopped eating we stopped

00:48:15.460 heating our homes, we stopped driving to work. It wouldn't make a dent in global emissions,

00:48:21.060 darling. So then why don't we do something smarter than the carbon tax, which is not

00:48:26.560 reducing emissions. Our emissions continue to go up both in British Columbia, which is

00:48:31.100 our longest standing carbon tax in Canada and our test case and our template. They're

00:48:35.340 going up big time in BC, even with two carbon taxes there. They're also going up federally,

00:48:41.280 by the way. Sorry to bust your bubbles. So why don't we be smart and tackle the big end of the

00:48:46.240 arithmetic problem and instead sell something like clean burning natural gas to a place like India

00:48:51.940 that has got 300 million people or so burning wood and animal dung every single day. Super heavy

00:48:58.560 emissions. Tackle that big end of the arithmetic problem. Why don't we do that instead? And that's

00:49:04.120 where I don't understand. Because when I present it that way mathematically to my well-meaning

00:49:09.460 friends who truly believe that this is a crisis, they're lost for an answer. And they keep saying

00:49:15.320 something like, well, we should do our part. What part? Like we explained, even if we stopped here

00:49:20.400 in Canada, it wouldn't make a hail of beans difference. And so that's the part I don't get,

00:49:24.840 Dan. Is this now a philosophical thing for people? Yeah. They're clinging to something

00:49:29.960 that doesn't exist. And, you know, we've, as I mentioned, we did nukes a long time ago. We did

00:49:34.300 hydroelectric dams a long time ago, long before it's cool and trendy. I think one way to settle

00:49:39.460 this, and I think it's the easiest way to settle it, is to say to all those organizations, all

00:49:44.580 those so-called charities and foundations, you don't get any money and you are subject to

00:49:50.980 Revenue Canada audits. Things that Justin Trudeau removed as prime minister allowed the loveliest

00:49:57.600 folks to basically escape normal scrutiny and to be able then to turn around and lecture

00:50:04.100 officials politicians tell people there's a climate crisis that there's a climate emergency

00:50:10.080 that you know the world is coming to an end this constant drip drip that we've been hearing for 20

00:50:16.380 30 and 40 years turns out not to be correct and I think there is no place for climate alarmism

00:50:23.020 I've referred to it very honestly it's climate bedwetting should not be a basis for public

00:50:27.120 policy in Canada or anywhere else in the world if you've got an issue great but do not in any way

00:50:32.700 shape or form ask me as a taxpayer to pay your grift so you can go out as some organizations

00:50:38.620 climate groups in this country 20 30 40 50 million at a time who then simply buttress the government's

00:50:44.700 position which is to continue to further this nonsense compounding it making canada a less

00:50:50.620 competitive place but don't take my word for it how's their productivity per capita as a country

00:50:55.340 going i can tell you where it's going it's because these these folks these pied pipers of of of 1.00

00:51:01.420 disbelief and fantasy have taken us down this very dark path for which there may not be a

00:51:06.140 return unless Canadians quickly smarten up. I agree. It's a key, people often say affordability.

00:51:12.220 It's a key element of affordability and I'll break it down for people. Even right now,

00:51:16.540 the first carbon tax, forget the second carbon tax out in BC and the second one that they're

00:51:20.540 launching across Canada here, that costs you around $13 extra just to fill up the minivan,

00:51:26.140 just in the carbon tax not counting gst pickup truck about 20 extra big rig trucker now you're

00:51:32.460 talking 200 extra in the carbon tax because of the carbon tax on diesel now you can see the

00:51:38.300 layering effect of why this is costing people so much and it gets down to the real person we only

00:51:43.100 have a few minutes left dan but i wanted to paint this picture for you one of the last phone calls

00:51:47.740 that i had as director in british colombia was from a lady i think she was in her 60s okay she

00:51:54.140 was living in a basement suite in chilliwack with her adult son i'll try to get through this without

00:51:59.900 crying because she was so upset um her adult son was a tradesman okay he had just had a divorce

00:52:05.420 okay so he's back with his mom trying to rebuild his life his job site okay keep in mind he's in

00:52:10.460 like you know south chilliwack here his job site was all the way over up in port coquitlam okay

00:52:17.420 his little pickup truck okay try filling that thing up when gas back then at this time was like

00:52:24.140 two dollars and 13 cents per liter and a huge reason for that was because british columbia had

00:52:30.620 two carbon taxes that were not reducing emissions folks you're not saving the planet okay all you're

00:52:36.700 doing is making that life harder she phoned us because she said she just couldn't afford things 1.00

00:52:43.020 anymore her rent on that basement suite was twenty six hundred dollars a month and her son couldn't

00:52:49.100 afford to fill up his truck to go to work and she was stuck and she'd been working her entire life

00:52:55.900 and so i want to put this to those pointy heads the same ones who created the green energy crisis

00:53:01.020 in ontario who scurried up from queens park and went to ottawa and wrote the carbon tax legislation

00:53:06.460 they are the same people who did this okay i want to get them to talk to people like that

00:53:13.020 because when they talk about affordability and the cost of living that's exactly what we're talking

00:53:17.100 but with things like the carbon tax and now i'm scared that we're going to have the same nightmare

00:53:21.820 all over again with this push for mandatory electric vehicles yeah it looks it's unconstitutional we

00:53:27.660 need to get on board with that there's only a couple of people fighting it we need to push

00:53:31.260 back hard the provinces saskatchewan new brunson ontario why isn't ontario standing up i get the

00:53:37.100 idea they think it's a wonderful way you know what have all these uh this money but when ford

00:53:43.420 motor companies losing hundreds of thousands of dollars in every unit of electric vehicles you

00:53:47.500 know full well that's only a matter of time before the this thing gets exposed for the sham that it

00:53:51.980 is and unfortunately it's a terrible way to build industrial policy at the end of the day it was

00:53:57.340 based on quicksand which the argument seems to be based on it looks like we're in for big troubles

00:54:01.980 here in canada we need to change very quickly to help canadians out of this thank you by the way

00:54:05.900 for raising the issue of affordability because there's a lot of people up there who feel very

00:54:10.140 much and it's a growing legion of people out there who feel disenfranchised and this country has

00:54:14.860 failed them and its political leaders have done so deliberately we just got the report this morning

00:54:20.060 a quarter of canadians have been using a food bank in the last year it's up 50 since 2021 that

00:54:28.540 shocked me totally shocked this is this is yeah this is not no no offense those countries what

00:54:35.420 are we doing if canadians cannot realize that voting liberal and ndp in green has these kind

00:54:41.180 of consequences then they are committing themselves to a future that is most austere and and complete

00:54:47.340 with uh despair and i think that's where people really need to smarten up you've got 16 months

00:54:52.140 you've made three mistakes 2015 2019 and 2021 don't go for a four p please people

00:54:58.940 dan mctaig with the canadians for affordable energy thank you so much for your time sir

00:55:03.020 always a pleasure chris thanks for having me thank you uh folks if you have experiences with this if

00:55:08.300 you can talk to us about your struggle for example to fill up your pantry your struggle to fill up

00:55:13.660 your gas or diesel tank and what affordability in government speak actually means to your bottom

00:55:19.100 line please drop us a line uh the best way to communicate with us for this part of the show

00:55:23.340 for the andrew lawton show here at true north is to leave a comment on this youtube channel we

00:55:28.460 We really wanna hear from normal people

00:55:31.180 who are out there working every day

00:55:33.020 and fighting to afford the basics.

00:55:35.260 Folks, thank you so much for watching.

00:55:36.940 Thank you to all of our guests.

00:55:38.340 So I think we've covered the gamut here.

00:55:40.140 We went everywhere from a history lesson

00:55:42.180 on the role of the speaker,

00:55:43.540 all the way to the need to be able to defend our rights

00:55:46.240 to own legal firearms,

00:55:48.420 to this impending crisis of what is energy poverty

00:55:53.100 and how that connects back to affordability

00:55:55.660 and the lack of ability to actually afford things

00:55:58.280 like food here in Canada, really important stuff.

00:56:01.280 Thank you so much for watching.

00:56:02.700 We'll catch you again tomorrow.

00:56:04.880 Thanks for listening to The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:56:07.300 Support the program by donating to True North

00:56:09.520 at www.tnc.news.

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Juno News - May 22, 2024

Conservatives push to remove House Speaker Greg Fergus

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