Juno News - Convoy lawyer Brendan Miller kicked out of Public Order Emergency Commission

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00:00:25.600 it is fabulous to have you aboard the show.

00:00:28.660 by being here today, you are deciding that you would rather listen to me speak than listen to

00:00:34.960 public safety minister Marco Mendicino speak. I am honored. And if there is any one of you that

00:00:41.480 picked Marco Mendicino over me, I am horribly, horribly insulted. I don't know who would pick

00:00:46.660 listening to. I mean, listening to me is a bit of a weird life decision. Listening to Marco

00:00:51.600 Mendicino though, and then imagine if I were below that. Anyway, it is good to have you tuned in

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00:01:44.660 is going to be there so i hope you'll come out and say hello if i've been in alberta a lot lately

00:01:49.060 but it's like the the heartland now it's where all the fun stuff's happening and i don't know

00:01:53.320 if it's related to rebel news live or not but you may be able to tell i've got a little bit of a

00:01:58.160 weird quality to my voice weirder than normal that is i am coming down with one ever have come down

00:02:04.680 with one of the like 27 000 things that are apparently circulating right now that we have

00:02:09.440 to flatten the curve on i don't know whether i've got uh covid i don't know whether i've gotten rsv

00:02:14.620 maybe i've got the common cold maybe i've got the flu maybe i even have the monkey pox you never know

00:02:20.340 I'm not going to rule anything out. I haven't gotten the vaccines for any of those other things, so we'll see.

00:02:26.220 But I hope you'll indulge that my voice may have a bit more of a grading quality than usual to it.

00:02:31.640 But the big news today, if you've been following it, has not been what Marco Mendocino said on the stand of the Public Order Emergency Commission.

00:02:39.780 But it was Brendan Miller, the lawyer to the Freedom Convoy, getting kicked out of the commission hearing.

00:02:47.440 Now, right now, Brendan Miller is back, and he's actually cross-examining Marco Menettino as we speak.

00:02:53.560 One of my colleagues is tuning in on that, so we'll share updates if anything new emerges from that process.

00:02:58.800 But I want to share the clip that is really the climax of this session.

00:03:03.040 This is, just for the purposes of my producer, not the longer one,

00:03:06.520 but this is the clip that led up to Brendan Miller getting ejected earlier today.

00:03:12.020 And then in the clip, he actually gets ejected by Commissioner Paul Rouleau just before lunchtime.

00:03:20.120 Sir, the Commission Council has not completed her presentation.

00:03:26.000 I understand that, sir, and your council has advised you that.

00:03:28.900 No, I know you've directed.

00:03:30.360 I'm sorry, I'm speaking.

00:03:32.500 Yes, sir.

00:03:34.360 The application, if you want to do it, you've been advised it to be done in writing, not in the middle of the presentation.

00:03:41.460 You've filed two motions in writing at your direction that you've refused to rule on with respect to the redaction of documents from the government of Canada.

00:03:49.160 You're speaking, I'm speaking.

00:03:50.880 I will take a break while you're asked to leave.

00:03:57.520 I will return in five minutes if security could deal with the council.

00:04:04.080 Commissioner Denrysos, the Commission on the B.

00:04:05.740 so there he was the first person in this entire process uh that i understand it on the council

00:04:15.240 side to be removed there were a couple of members of this spectating audience a few weeks back that

00:04:20.940 were removed now as i mentioned brendan miller was allowed back in so there was a period of time he

00:04:26.820 came back in uh just about 20 minutes ago he apologized uh at the beginning of his cross

00:04:32.640 examination for speaking over the commissioner and the commissioner just had a like it was like

00:04:37.560 a one syllable response of like k so i don't think they're going to be golfing buddies anytime soon

00:04:43.320 but at least he's back in and re-engaged in the process and i i will admit i was a little bit

00:04:49.500 unnerved by it just because when you're in that situation the judge has all the power the

00:04:55.140 commissioner in this case has all the power and you can't be much of an activist or an advocate

00:04:59.500 when something like this is happening

00:05:03.700 and you're outside on the sidewalk,

00:05:05.820 which is where Brendan Miller ended up

00:05:07.740 after he was removed.

00:05:08.920 And he did a little impromptu scrum with reporters

00:05:11.360 that I'll play a clip of in just a moment.

00:05:14.140 But at the same time,

00:05:15.040 I also think it's important to understand

00:05:16.700 the context of this.

00:05:17.960 So a couple of days ago,

00:05:19.660 the process that the commission and their,

00:05:22.580 sorry, the convoy lawyers went through

00:05:24.080 was submitting in writing as they're supposed to

00:05:26.540 a bunch of motions, two in particular,

00:05:28.420 and the commissioner as of that time had not ruled on them now over the lunch break the commissioner

00:05:35.100 did issue a decision on that and it was regarding the redactions of government documents which a lot

00:05:41.140 of the parties not just convoy organizers but also the canadian civil liberties association the jccf

00:05:48.220 the canadian constitution foundation and several others thought did not seem suitable and did not

00:05:54.520 seem appropriate so what happened was they decided to get this uh put it before the commissioner and

00:06:01.420 say you you have to compel them to release the unredacted documents now over lunch the commission

00:06:07.500 did actually release that decision and they effectively sided with the government but it was

00:06:14.000 kind of a bizarre it was a bizarre turn of events and i'm not really confident about whether

00:06:21.760 Commissioner Rouleau was in the wrong there I think at a certain point when you're in this same

00:06:25.680 hearing room for hours and hours a day I mean yesterday's session went from 9 30 a.m up until

00:06:31.640 just after 8 p.m you're bound to get a little bit more uninhibited than I think you were at the

00:06:39.160 beginning when everyone was chuckling and having a grand old time and people were taking more time

00:06:43.440 and everything was fine so I think that perhaps tempers flare up just because of the longevity

00:06:49.040 of this thing. And I think the tolerance and patience level on both Rouleau and Miller were

00:06:54.120 going down. But also in that moment, Miller's frustration was, I think, not necessarily

00:07:00.700 understood by a lot of people. Now, this is him explaining this a little bit outside moments after

00:07:06.520 he was ejected from that hearing. When decisions are not made on procedural issues of this

00:07:13.120 importance. Without undue delay, procedural fairness, not just my clients, but everyone's,

00:07:20.020 is violated. Canadians are entitled to the truth, and you can't hide behind unlawful redactions in

00:07:27.080 a public inquiry claiming baseless redactions on staff or correspondence because it may hurt you.

00:07:36.180 And that, in my view, is what the Government of Canada is doing. And it needs to stop. And had

00:07:42.840 we had a timely ruling on these redactions this application made orally today would have been

00:07:50.920 entirely unnecessary so that was a brendan miller earlier and he said this this was a whole i mean

00:07:59.040 here's the thing i'm going to say a lot of people are understandably going to immediately leap to

00:08:06.340 the question of bias there's been a lot of accusations since miller was ejected that

00:08:10.400 oh this was all just a hatchet job and oh this was a case of a liberal appointed judge and there

00:08:16.140 the fix is in and all of that and especially when you come when you compound that with the fact that

00:08:22.200 the decision that the commissioner released over lunchtime generally speaking sided with the

00:08:26.380 government but i should say if you look at this thing in its totality it seems as though the

00:08:32.320 commissioner has been generally speaking very fair there's been a lot of flexibility in the process

00:08:37.340 there's been a lot of opportunity for convoy organizers to speak for convoy lawyers to cross

00:08:42.760 examine for civil liberties oriented parties like the ccf and the ccla to put their perspectives

00:08:48.380 forward it's been a very fair process i think up to this point now this week is where we're getting

00:08:54.540 into crunch time this is as of the current schedule the last week of witness testimony

00:08:59.500 this is when some of the most critical witnesses are up the federal government ministers that were

00:09:05.020 responsible for making this decision. So this is where it is a high stakes game. This isn't just

00:09:12.820 like some public servant that didn't like the sound of horn honking. These are the people that

00:09:18.180 actually froze your bank accounts that are testifying this week. These are the people

00:09:22.520 that sent in the cops to pepper spray you and me and other people. These are the folks that

00:09:28.620 actually took the decision that triggered this inquiry in the first place. So absolutely,

00:09:36.160 this is the week above all else where they need to get it right. And I am not going to willy-nilly

00:09:42.020 make an accusation of judicial bias on the part of the commissioner based on this flare-up,

00:09:48.600 although I do think it is an important thing for people to take note of, especially as things

00:09:53.640 proceed and i will note that the convoy lawyers have made a couple of applications here to call

00:09:59.060 new witnesses which as i understand it have so far not been met with success they've tried to

00:10:04.980 call the president of cbc as a witness has not had any success they have tried to call starting

00:10:10.960 yesterday the guy that the convoy lawyers think was the wielder of the confederate flag now i i

00:10:17.500 should say i have reviewed the limited evidence that's been provided on this i don't think that

00:10:23.400 is the guy. I will say I think the convoy lawyers are wrong about that, but they have evidence that

00:10:29.040 they want to put forward and a witness they want to put forward that's going to make that claim.

00:10:33.360 Okay, if this is an inquiry and a fact-finding expedition that is supposed to unpack all of

00:10:40.240 these different things, then we shouldn't be closing the door to people that can, they believe,

00:10:46.680 bring these facts forward. And that's the key question here. Is the deference only going

00:10:52.460 in one direction? Is the latitude only going in one direction? I mean, basically, Marco Mendicino

00:10:59.720 has not been particularly useful today for anyone. He's just kind of given the same old lines you'd

00:11:06.480 expect to get from the government. I will say there was this very weird moment that I'll share,

00:11:11.500 and I'm not even making a political point here. I think I'm just explaining that it's a weird

00:11:15.560 moment where the word bromance was entered into the record. This is a portmanteau of bros or

00:11:23.620 brothers and romance, a bromance, a platonic romance between brothers from another mother,

00:11:30.840 I believe is the Webster's dictionary definition. I have no idea if that's the case, but a bromance

00:11:36.100 between Marco Mendicino and David Lamedi, the justice minister. And if you look at the terms

00:11:42.680 of this bromance, uh, I'll pull up the text message here. Uh, Marco Mendicino and David

00:11:47.680 Lamedi are chatting in a signal group. So they use signal too. And, uh, Marco Mendicino says to

00:11:53.720 David Lamedi, you were perfect today. Thanks. And then David Lamedi replies. So were you buddy.

00:11:59.820 It's like, Oh, I can just see the hearts flying and the birds chirping and all of that. Uh, you

00:12:04.080 were perfect today. So were you buddy. And then they go on to, you know, taking away your civil

00:12:07.960 liberties and whatnot so they always eventually pivot back to that but i think the point of this

00:12:13.940 the canadians need to understand right now is that right now this commission is the best

00:12:20.740 opportunity we have expose the facts expose the misinformation expose the dishonesty

00:12:28.180 that the government used in promoting the emergencies act we have court cases yes we

00:12:37.540 have a parliamentary commission? Yes. But this is so far the most open option for this. So even if

00:12:45.580 at the end of it, it doesn't come with a definitive binary finding that will result in some sort of

00:12:50.740 penalty, it is still critically important right now. And absolutely, I want people that have facts

00:12:56.540 to be heard. We've got to take a quick break here. When we come back, more of The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:13:00.980 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show

00:13:07.760 welcome back to the andrew lawton show i want to turn away from all this other news that's

00:13:15.480 happening right now and talk about the climate and specifically the political response to climate

00:13:21.440 over the last couple of weeks world leaders had descended on egypt for the what mark stein and

00:13:28.380 then Mark Morano called the Sharm el Shakedown, the United Nations COP27 conference, where they

00:13:35.180 attempt to save the world, prevent the Maldives from basically being underwater and keep global

00:13:42.160 warming down just to like a 1.5 degree rise over pre-industrial levels, even if it means sacrificing

00:13:48.520 traditional energy. They aren't really concerned about the details as much. Well, Mark Morano is

00:13:54.320 the publisher of climate depot.com and he decided to lead by example and not take a limo or a private

00:14:00.960 jet we're heading to the united nations climate summit uh and this is the way we chose to go

00:14:07.520 see you there soon

00:14:08.720 that was mark morano riding in on his camel now as we know uh animal flatulence is nothing to

00:14:18.640 scoff at so it might have actually been uh just as bad an emitter as the private jet so you never

00:14:23.120 know. But Mark Marano is the publisher of ClimateDepot.com and joins me now. Mark, good to

00:14:28.320 talk to you. Thanks for coming on today. Thank you, Andrew. I do have to give credit to Mark Stein. I

00:14:32.780 believe he had the original Sharmel Shakedown. So credit where credit's due. Well, it is a shakedown 1.00

00:14:39.200 indeed, no matter which way you slice it. And it's interesting. I will say that I always get

00:14:44.020 very nervous about these summits of what my government leaders are committing me as a taxpayer

00:14:49.860 or two and i know it's the same for americans for britons for australians and well there is some of

00:14:56.200 that to be concerned about i think your analysis is probably spot on here that this was just a big

00:15:01.040 colossal waste of time they come out of it and nothing has actually happened no i mean the only

00:15:07.220 thing that happens is they introduce a lot of scary very frightening totalitarian ideas for

00:15:12.700 the future and they put that in the groundwork but no even a bbc reporter came out and called

00:15:17.140 whole conference crazy and said the bbc reported and i have this at climate depot that they

00:15:22.900 literally just copied and pasted last year's meaningless declaration from scotland u.n summit

00:15:28.180 posted it this year and actually weakened it a bit that was the bbc analysis i can't say i disagree

00:15:33.940 and so what these are and they've also added this year for the first time ever it's historic

00:15:39.700 this uh lost and damage otherwise known as climate reparations they want trillions of dollars per

00:15:45.940 year to be spent by developed countries like the U.S., Canada, and Europe, and Australia to the

00:15:52.940 developing world for so-called damages that we've caused. And the thing is, first of all, no one's

00:15:58.700 going to pay this. Second of all, first, they're basing it on bad weather being worse. On every

00:16:04.220 metric, hurricane floods, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, there's either no trend or declining

00:16:08.320 trends on 30, 50, 100-year climate timescales. So if anything, they owe us for making the weather

00:16:15.880 better as we've increased CO2. And secondly, any wealth that we brought in infrastructure

00:16:21.060 to the developing world has helped them. And what they need are more fossil fuels,

00:16:25.000 not handouts, so they can stay poor. And it'll basically turn into the UN paying the governments,

00:16:30.380 which are best able to keep their citizens locked in poverty. And there's a lot of government

00:16:34.300 leaders that'll raise their hand and say, pay me, pay me, to ensure their reelection, patronage,

00:16:39.900 monuments to themselves, pay off their friends. That's how the UN really is brilliant, though.

00:16:45.100 On this angle, they understand politics.

00:16:47.520 They understand how to get developing world leaders to go against the interests of their own citizens by paying them huge sums of cash to basically say, forget the interests of your residents.

00:16:59.220 Yeah, and some of these, I mean, the one thing that's always so annoying about these conferences is that you get countries that have very outsized influence at the negotiating table,

00:17:09.320 like tuvalu and the maldives which are all the ones talking about how they're supposed to be

00:17:13.880 underwater by next friday and at the same time these are also countries that have very robust

00:17:19.640 tourism industries that actively encourage and welcome people from all around the world to fly

00:17:24.440 there and then when it comes to this they say well we need you know a billion dollars from the us we

00:17:28.600 need a billion dollars from the uk yeah and that's exactly right tuvalu the maldives all of these

00:17:34.360 islands which they've done press conferences literally underwater the prime minister will

00:17:38.440 dress up in a suit and swim underwater they'll put up a table to illustrate their plight meanwhile

00:17:43.960 they're building new hotels new airports the resorts and the oceans are doing fine sea level

00:17:48.680 is not accelerating it's been rising since the end of the last ice age 10 000 years ago but there's

00:17:53.640 no indication that anything's going to happen with sea level other than scary climate model predictions

00:17:58.760 so they're using this fear of the future when current reality fails to alarm you make scarier

00:18:04.520 and scarier predictions and they've been in the news all the time with the media loves the hype

00:18:09.640 the pacific islands that are paying the brunt of our of our uh you know evil sinful carbon dioxide

00:18:16.280 waste the bottom line is this the industrialized world embraced wealth cheap fossil fuels and we've

00:18:24.600 reduced our climate related deaths 99 in the last 100 years 99 and they keep dropping so what we need

00:18:34.200 to do is not do handouts to to give to corrupt leaders in the developing world we need to allow

00:18:40.040 them to develop cheap fossil fuels and as much as possible market economies private property rights

00:18:45.800 very difficult in a lot of places of course but the more they develop the more resilient they'll

00:18:51.320 be to the climate whether you believe it's man-made or natural climate change i remember when the lead

00:18:59.000 up to Glasgow was happening last year the big refrain we kept hearing from Alex Sharma in the

00:19:04.220 UK was that we need to quote keep 1.5 alive unquote and it was that you know this this

00:19:10.100 linchpin I think of what they're striving towards is to get all the countries to agree to keep

00:19:14.260 global warming to a rise of no greater than 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels at

00:19:20.440 Paris they can only agree to two and they still haven't met this magic 1.5 number now I think

00:19:26.480 the number is is completely fictitious and arbitrary but i do think it's revealing that

00:19:31.780 they're up against this resistance and that all of these countries that claim they're prepared to do

00:19:37.420 everything they're buying into it they're actually quite realistic about their own limitations in

00:19:42.680 some ways and they don't want to go that whole distance yeah well i think a couple things have

00:19:46.920 happened in recent years that are of note and the biggest thing since the covid lockdowns and now

00:19:52.280 war in Ukraine and then of course all the green energy policies which you know that Europe is much

00:19:57.560 more further advanced along than we here in the United States all of these leaders now realize

00:20:02.760 that this virtue signaling that's been going on for decades actually has real consequences it's

00:20:08.600 no longer you know we're gonna like in UK we're gonna shut our fracking wells and we're gonna

00:20:13.240 pour cement in them to make sure that no one ever and now that of course the one there I guess the

00:20:17.960 briefest serving prime minister in history trust was actually talking about opening up the new

00:20:22.040 prime minister is like no we're not going to open up we can't we can't allow fracking back in the

00:20:26.280 uk but most of these other leaders realize that they can't make these pledges anymore because

00:20:31.400 they've run out when you're when you're literally praying for a warm winter when trees are more

00:20:36.840 valuable than gold and when you're fearing a cold winter like you used to before the industrial

00:20:41.560 revolution suddenly energy policy matters so a lot of these leaders are getting hesitant now

00:20:46.360 they're looking at europe particularly and saying maybe i shouldn't be committing to these virtue

00:20:51.320 signaling, I thought, cost-free benefits. And that's what's happened in the whole green agenda.

00:20:55.540 We were sold a bill of goods. When I say we, not that you or I voted for it, but the people who

00:21:00.080 did vote for these green politicians, we were told that solar and wind were cheaper, ready to replace

00:21:06.880 it, that fossil fuels were out the window, that there was historic moments where solar and wind

00:21:11.140 were overpowering the grid. And that's all we had to do was get out of the way. And every bill we

00:21:15.120 passed was heralded as saving the planet. Every UN agreement was heralded. And what's happened?

00:21:19.660 And we've invested, and this was in the words of Goldman Sachs economists in the U.S.,

00:21:24.480 $3.8 trillion over 10 years for green energy.

00:21:28.400 It dropped the U.S. fossil fuel use from 82% to 81% briefly.

00:21:33.760 We're back up to 82%.

00:21:35.340 Now, you'd think people would look at that and say, well, this doesn't work.

00:21:38.300 Let's come up with a new system.

00:21:39.440 No, they're looking at this.

00:21:41.220 Al Gore shows up opening day speech at the U.N.

00:21:44.040 Cop Summit in Sharm El Shakedown, where I was.

00:21:47.100 And he gave a speech talking about $4 trillion a year in investment.

00:21:52.960 So they look at trillions in failure for no benefit.

00:21:55.900 And they say, well, we need to double, triple, quintuple, and just keep on going.

00:21:59.760 They don't look at it as failure.

00:22:00.900 They look at it as lack of a proper investment.

00:22:03.560 The pathetic spectacle, by the way, is after Gore is calling for $4 trillion per year investment,

00:22:09.980 and I shouldn't call him investment, boondoggle or spending,

00:22:12.660 Joe Biden shows up a few days later and brags about his Inflation Reduction Act in the U.S. will spend $370 billion.

00:22:21.040 Sorry, Joe, your pennies on the dollar. No one's even paying attention.

00:22:24.920 $370 billion, we laugh at. We're talking $4 trillion per year.

00:22:29.640 That's how quickly this escalates into just lunacy at these summits.

00:22:34.280 Yeah, and they cease to be real numbers at a certain point.

00:22:37.480 And it's amazing how much of a delusion there is by, especially the United States in this.

00:22:44.080 I mean, I know it went viral and I know you reported on it as well.

00:22:47.060 When John Kerry was shaking the Venezuelan dictator's hand, Nicolas Maduro, you know,

00:22:52.860 this guy that they wouldn't even recognize as being the leader for the longest time.

00:22:56.020 And now when they're at a climate summit together, they're best buddies.

00:22:58.660 And, you know, the U.S. calling China their partner in climate.

00:23:01.700 It's like it's amazing how they're so dedicated on this very one track focus on the climate negotiations that they manage to just forget everything else they say every other day of the year. 0.64

00:23:13.340 They do. In fact, John Kerry, there's a 15 million dollar bounty on Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela.

00:23:19.400 John Kerry got a purple heart in Vietnam. You think he could have been thinking, hey, I could get another yacht.

00:23:24.160 I could get another private jet. No, they can put that towards the reparations.

00:23:28.120 Yeah, he could put it toward reparation. But instead, I believe he shook his hand twice, if my memory serves, when he first met him and when they walked away. This was a man with the U.S. government has a bounty on, you know, the capture. He could have got a lot of money. But this was all these rogues. The World Health Organization, not only was Ignatius Biduro, but the World Health Organization. And yeah, I put them in the same category at this point. They were there basically trying to make climate a public health threat. They've already declared climate the greatest public health threat of the 21st century.

00:23:56.780 So the new template is if you don't fight climate, if you don't support the U.N. or Green New Deal or the net zero climate agenda, you're a grandma killer because unchecked climate will lead to unchecked viruses like COVID.

00:24:11.180 Second thing is, well, real quick, John Kerry appeared with the World Economic Forum and actually said we'll use COVID template to fight climate.

00:24:19.860 And then the big one was Al Gore and Google, which we can talk about in a minute.

00:24:22.980 Yeah, the emergency thing, the public health threat is important.

00:24:26.420 Like when Canada was having its Supreme Court battle a few years back over the carbon tax, one of the arguments that some of the environmental NGOs were putting forward when they intervened is that this was justified under emergency power.

00:24:40.860 So the same constitutional authority that the federal government of Canada has in an emergency, they should be able to use that power on climate.

00:24:48.620 And this was pre-COVID. I think now, looking back at what's happened in the last two and a half years, people should be a lot more concerned about that, because I'm absolutely convinced, and I've gotten the sense from your writing, you are as well, that a lot of the things that really we saw modeled over COVID could very easily be applied to the climate situation.

00:25:10.040 Climate lockdowns, restrictions, mobility restrictions, this is all very likely.

00:25:15.240 In my book, The Great Reset, Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown, I have two full

00:25:18.780 chapters on the COVID climate connection.

00:25:21.320 And in it, with 90 pages of footnotes, 230 medical journals, including the British Journal

00:25:27.040 of Medical, all these prestigious medical journals, say that to fight COVID, climate

00:25:31.600 change, we should use the same template that we did on climate.

00:25:35.360 We have Harvard School of Medicine basically morphing COVID and climate together.

00:25:39.780 You have the International Energy Agency coming out with the same concept of calling it almost like an energy lockdown.

00:25:46.220 You had a Soros Gates-funded professor in Europe, Mariana Mazakedu, say the phrase climate lockdown.

00:25:54.100 So this is not some fever dream of a climate denier.

00:25:57.980 We have all the tools of the establishment.

00:26:00.640 The journal Nature just came out with a study earlier this year calling for an individual carbon footprint tracker for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

00:26:07.060 The U.N. has teamed up with MasterCard to do a CO2 monitoring card that cuts off your spending when you hit your CO2 max, according to their own promotional material.

00:26:17.940 But this is, you know, John Kerry in the World Economic Forum at this summit.

00:26:22.080 And the most frightening aspect of this is Al Gore and Google partnering up for Climate Trace.

00:26:27.320 Now, think back to COVID track and trace.

00:26:29.960 Let's go look at Australia.

00:26:31.060 If you went to a grocery store and you were within six or eight feet of someone who later tested positive, police would show up at your door.

00:26:38.200 You could be commandeered, taken to an internment camp, a quarantine camp for 10, 12, whatever, how many days it was, against your will because you were exposed and it's all for public safety.

00:26:47.640 Well, what Al Gore is doing in Google partnership collusion, if you will, that they announced, climate trace, 70 plus thousand individual emitters will be monitored, farms, energy plants, fossil fuel.

00:27:00.920 And remember, humans inhale oxygen, we exhale carbon dioxide.

00:27:04.480 This is all part of this measure to monitor our carbon footprints individually, tax, penalize, and restrict our movements.

00:27:12.560 And in fact, the biggest restriction of movement is coming out now with all of these, they're talking about airline monitoring and people who fly a certain number of flights will end up paying hundreds of dollars per year extra, possibly per flight, depending on how many flights you've taken.

00:27:32.120 it's an attack on freedom of movement and of course the g20 summit is what the big one was

00:27:36.940 they announced the digital vaccine passport all these g20 leaders where klaus schwab suddenly

00:27:41.760 elevated as a head of state but that is where they're going the who is going after to be in

00:27:46.740 charge of who gets to move and when and that's frightening because when you bring electric cars

00:27:51.180 in the mix national charging grids the ban on gas powered cars you can see very quickly that

00:27:56.280 they're going for our uh you know our right to be free to move across travel vacation anything

00:28:03.700 well i appreciate that you were there and that you continue to shine a light on this i hope next time

00:28:08.480 you'll be able to find a hybrid camel for the sake of the climate yeah i got the right one funny last

00:28:13.600 thing i was gonna mention is greta thunberg rejected this summit correctly we could all 1.00

00:28:18.820 agree with this she called it a scam full of greenwashing lying and here's the thing she 1.00

00:28:23.560 didn't show up for the first time to a UN climate summit since she became a public figure. She was 0.58

00:28:28.960 replaced like that. There's a girl named Sophia from social media, and I don't know if it was

00:28:35.420 Instagram or one of those things. She ended up giving a keynote speech at the UN. She met with

00:28:40.600 Secretary Gutierrez, the UN general secretary. She had a private meeting with John Kerry. She

00:28:45.880 got all involved in negotiations. She wears very skimpy outfits. They literally dumped Greta as 0.91

00:28:52.360 fast as they could. They didn't like. Greta had an understudy this whole time and probably didn't 1.00

00:28:56.860 even know it. That's right. So Greta has been replaced. Her name's Sophia and she is, you know, 0.98

00:29:02.700 was all over the place at this UN summit. And it's amazing. I really believe that they're not,

00:29:07.400 that UN is not happy that Greta called the process a scam, which it is. Wow. Well, there you go,

00:29:12.300 Greta. If you step out of line, they'll just turn back at you and say, how dare you? So

00:29:15.760 Mark Morano, climatedepot.com, his book about the great reset. Absolutely phenomenal. Do pick it up.

00:29:21.400 Thanks very much for coming on, Mark.

00:29:23.440 Always good to talk to you.

00:29:24.680 Thank you, Andrew.

00:29:25.320 I appreciate it.

00:29:26.180 Just because we were talking about this idea of how world leaders talk about things in

00:29:32.160 that context, and then once they leave, change their minds, I have to share with you this

00:29:37.320 little clip, which I've played on the show before.

00:29:39.720 I recorded it when I was in Davos at the World Economic Forum annual meeting back in May.

00:29:45.100 And it's a clip of India's natural gas and petroleum minister.

00:29:49.740 And the reason it's important is because this man, Minister Hardeep Singh Puri,

00:29:55.800 was on a panel in which he was talking about the need to accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.

00:30:01.100 And then I ran into him on the street and asked him to elaborate a little bit.

00:30:04.940 You were on a panel about oil and gas and energy this morning.

00:30:07.520 Do you think phasing out of fossil fuels is actually a realistic goal?

00:30:11.420 Look, I said what I had to.

00:30:14.160 But, you know, if you were to do that survey in different parts of the world,

00:30:18.960 If you were to do it, for instance, in South Asia or Africa or in Latin America,

00:30:24.860 you'd get results that might be a little different from the kind of results you're getting here.

00:30:28.580 Oh, interesting.

00:30:29.660 So all of a sudden, yeah, the people in the room,

00:30:31.700 they're disconnected from what's happening out in the real world and in the developing world.

00:30:36.660 It's a wonder and it's a shame he didn't say that in the room.

00:30:40.020 But all these world leaders tend to just go along with this.

00:30:43.720 They go along with it.

00:30:44.540 Some of them aren't even true believers.

00:30:45.820 but a lot of them certainly as we see in Canada are true believers and when that is the case we

00:30:51.480 have to pay for it. We've got to take a quick break here when we come back we will talk about

00:30:56.960 a somewhat related subject here on the Andrew Lawton Show. Stay with me.

00:31:03.760 You're tuned in to the Andrew Lawton Show.

00:31:06.560 welcome back isn't mark morano absolutely fantastic i'd love to do a deeper dive and i

00:31:16.920 think i will i've just like inspired myself in the last five seconds on this into this idea of

00:31:22.000 the covid lockdown becoming the climate lockdown and a lot of these measures that we saw governments

00:31:28.380 are able to do when there is a quote-unquote emergency and how they might apply that to this

00:31:33.340 climate emergency which is why that term is not benign when the mayor of calgary jody gonduk gets

00:31:39.100 out and says oh we have a climate emergency when the david suzuki foundation files its applications

00:31:44.040 before the supreme court of canada saying oh no no there's an emergency what they're actually doing

00:31:48.400 is giving the government license to do some pretty overbearing things and as i mentioned the last uh

00:31:54.060 in canada in particular the emergencies act inquiry should really put a level of caution

00:32:00.220 and anyone thinking that a declaration of an emergency can just be made all willy-nilly,

00:32:05.180 whatever the consequences are.

00:32:06.940 And on that note, I want to talk a little bit about the energy sector in Alberta,

00:32:10.940 but I just want to return, popping back into what's been happening in Ottawa,

00:32:15.160 the Public Order Emergency Commission, into Marco Mendicino's testimony.

00:32:19.440 This is, again, the public safety minister who's been on the stand now since basically 9.30 this morning,

00:32:26.620 minus a bit of a break.

00:32:28.840 And the thing about Marco Mendicino that's interesting is that he, I believe, I believe,

00:32:33.980 and I may be wrong about this, I believe he's the fall guy.

00:32:37.780 I think he's the one that is ultimately going to be the minister that has to bear some accountability

00:32:44.500 and some responsibility if anyone does.

00:32:47.440 I don't think it's going to be Christian Freeland.

00:32:49.100 It's certainly not going to be Justin Trudeau.

00:32:51.280 Bill Blair maybe is expendable, but I also don't think he is like the pound of flesh

00:32:55.640 that's going to assuage any concerns.

00:32:58.340 I think it's Marco Mendicino, because he was the guy that was sticking his neck out.

00:33:02.140 He was the guy that was often making these incredibly false claims about how law enforcement

00:33:08.620 requested the Emergencies Act, about how it was police that were asking the governor for it.

00:33:14.200 It was police that were the ones demanding it.

00:33:17.040 And then you put him on the stand and he's not doing any of that.

00:33:20.660 He's not making any of those claims now that he is under oath.

00:33:24.200 He's been very muted about the whole thing.

00:33:26.280 So I find that to be quite an interesting way of looking at this here.

00:33:32.020 So Mendicino, I think, is probably going to be the guy,

00:33:35.660 if anyone in the government has to take accountability for it,

00:33:40.320 I think he's likely to be the guy to do it.

00:33:43.460 Now, it was interesting.

00:33:44.680 So the Canadian Civil Liberties Association and its cross-examination

00:33:48.200 really took the approach of how vague and how broad the orders were.

00:33:54.360 and Kara Zwiebel I think was very shrewd in this question she put to Mendocino and I want you to

00:34:00.120 hear both the question and the answer. Would you agree with me that the definition of a public

00:34:05.620 assembly which is prohibited and if we can scroll down so you can see the whole thing

00:34:10.820 maybe we can just make it a bit smaller so that it'll all fit. Thank you Mr. Clark.

00:34:18.760 So a person can't participate in a public assembly that may reasonably be expected to

00:34:23.580 lead to a breach of the peace by the serious disruption of the movement of persons for goods

00:34:28.940 or the serious interference with trade. Let's just stop at that one. You might be aware, as an MP

00:34:36.460 coming from the province of Ontario, that we've had some labour strikes and threats of labour

00:34:43.200 strikes in the last couple of weeks. Would you agree with me that during the existence of these

00:34:50.320 orders uh a strike would likely be contrary to these orders well i i do think that um we need

00:35:01.860 to be very careful and circumscribed in defining what the powers are so the prohibition of public

00:35:09.480 assembly as it is itemized under the regs does direct that people can't be part of a public

00:35:18.160 assembly that may be reasonably expected to lead to a breach of the peace by the serious disruption

00:35:23.300 of the movement to persons or goods or the serious interference with trade let me pause there and say

00:35:28.560 that that is directly responsive in part to cbsa's concerns around the lack of authority

00:35:36.100 to clear roads adjacent to critical infrastructure in the form of the border and you can draw a

00:35:42.700 straight line to the right now for that power that having been said in addition to that the regs

00:35:47.820 still have to comply with the emergencies act which is the parenting statute and what that says

00:35:55.020 is that yes all of the individual rights that that that are there around freedom of assembly

00:36:03.340 including the right to protest um are preserved um so long as you do not then cross the boundary

00:36:11.500 into activity which could pose a threat of serious violence and that is the delineating

00:36:19.100 limitation to um to how it is that we both protect charter rights while at the same time giving

00:36:27.340 circumscribed targeted powers to restore public safety so you have to read this provision in in

00:36:34.060 in my opinion in conjunction with the parenting statute she goes on after that to ask him about

00:36:40.780 like whether it's geographically limited which it isn't and I mean she knows that when she asked

00:36:45.180 that and he looks at it he's like well you know if you read it it's clear it's only talking about

00:36:49.760 where things are happening and some things could only happen in some places and not others so I

00:36:55.180 mean yes it is and then like I'm like yeah this is this is the guy this is the fall guy and we'll

00:37:01.040 have obviously more clips a little bit later on I'm told just in a chat here I have with one of

00:37:06.520 my producers, that Marco Mendicino was asked if law enforcement asked for it, and he gave a very

00:37:12.240 different answer than what he's given in the past when he's not under oath. He was like, well, you

00:37:17.040 know, the threshold was met and we could do it. So their goalposts are already moving at a rather

00:37:23.240 significant pace right now. And that line we just played where he insists that civil liberties are

00:37:29.640 intact, that the right to protest is intact. Well, tell that to the people that got arrested, zip

00:37:34.440 tide dropped off in the outskirts of town because they dared to protest even without a vehicle. So

00:37:40.420 thanks for that indulgence. I want to jump back into our discussions about energy here. We had

00:37:45.680 my interview with Mark Marano a few moments ago and he's one of the few people that calls out the

00:37:51.400 nonsense unequivocally. Another is Michael Schellenberger who I actually saw speak in Banff

00:37:57.900 a couple of months ago. Great speaker on this and certainly someone who's gone through a bit of an

00:38:01.840 evolution on this. And if you are in Southern Alberta, he's actually speaking in Calgary

00:38:06.800 tonight. The doors open. What time is it now? It is 2.40 in Calgary right now. The doors open at

00:38:13.800 five. He's not speaking until 6.30 and that's over at the Weston Calgary airport. And this

00:38:19.340 event is being put on by Alberta Proud, which brings me to Lindsay Wilson, the president of

00:38:24.720 Alberta Proud, who joins me now. Lindsay, good to talk to you. Thanks for coming on today.

00:38:29.180 hi andrew thank you so much for having me this is my first time on your on your show

00:38:34.480 yes it's been it's been long overdue so i i thank you for for coming here i mean i want to talk

00:38:40.260 about the schellenberger event in a moment but let's just talk about the broader energy picture

00:38:44.700 here because uh we have a new premier in alberta and i think obviously jason kenny and danielle

00:38:50.080 smith are very similar on the oil and gas issue uh from public statements i've seen on that but

00:38:55.800 Do you see any major shifts now that we've transitioned from one government to another on this issue?

00:39:02.780 Well, you know, I think it's a little bit too early in Daniel Smith's and Premier Smith's tenure to see where she's going to go with this.

00:39:09.560 But I don't know if you caught her interview with Dr. Jordan Peterson last week.

00:39:14.660 He probably did. A lot of us did.

00:39:16.200 And it was really quite powerful.

00:39:17.920 And I think she said it all right there.

00:39:19.980 You know, we're not going to be moving away from oil and gas.

00:39:22.780 We're going to be moving toward low emissions.

00:39:24.420 and I love that and I think that's just kind of a good base to go off of and I think that Premier

00:39:30.340 Smith and is putting together or has put together the right cabinet and I think that they will

00:39:35.120 tackle these issues and they will stand up for our energy sector and most importantly they're

00:39:40.700 going to stand up to the Trudeau elites who want to do nothing but take our money and you know

00:39:46.820 batter down our oil sands which at Alberta Proud our main focus is on energy advocacy and standing

00:39:53.100 up for Alberta and we believe strongly in that and in Alberta autonomy. Yeah and obviously the

00:39:57.900 energy minister was at what my guest earlier called the Charmel shakedown at COP27 putting

00:40:04.820 Alberta's interest front and centre and I think you know the sad part here is that I would say

00:40:09.980 ideally Alberta's interest shouldn't be distinct from Canada's interest. I mean certainly economically

00:40:14.560 a thriving successful oil and gas sector is good for Alberta and good for Canada but increasingly

00:40:19.980 there's a huge divide there and the position that Alberta is going to put forward on the

00:40:24.420 international stage is vastly different from the one Canada is putting forward. Yeah, that's always

00:40:29.880 really unfortunate in Alberta. I think, you know, there has been this east-west divide or an us

00:40:35.460 versus them and it doesn't really need to be that way. You know, we're really proud of our best in

00:40:39.500 the world, Canadian energy, of our Alberta energy. We produce the most ethical, sustainable oil and

00:40:46.060 gas pipelines are the safest way to ship it and i think the gig is up you know we we've got michael

00:40:51.460 schellenberger coming tonight and he he i you and i both saw him in bamf a couple of months ago and

00:40:56.760 he does such a great job at dispelling all the hypocrisies of these so-called green energy

00:41:01.960 solutions and i think more and more people are catching on just even in conversations i have

00:41:07.140 with alberta proud followers uh we've got a tremendous following on facebook alone we have

00:41:11.360 about 212 000 followers let alone all the other socials so i connect with a lot of people on a

00:41:15.960 daily basis. And I think we're being heard loud and clear. And I think, you know, when you look

00:41:22.020 at such the Trudeau, such low popularity ratings and how he's doing in the polls, right, in the

00:41:27.440 toilet, essentially, I think there's a lot to do with that. I think we've seen a flip in dialogue

00:41:32.480 over the last few years, Andrew, and I think people are coming around to see, yeah, I mean, 1.00

00:41:36.760 you know, my electric car is the batteries made by child slave labor in a third world nation with 0.97

00:41:43.560 no human rights legislation and you know the batteries are mine mine from lithium 0.99

00:41:51.080 we're starting to see you know where did they go where these batteries go when they

00:41:55.800 when when we put them into landfills made of dozens and hundreds of little tiny parts that

00:42:01.240 don't decompose and i think i think people are starting to catch on like there's a lot of

00:42:05.480 really good positive things happening in that but there's it's not going to replace oil and gas i

00:42:11.160 I mean, you saw what happened with California and the grid and everything this summer.

00:42:14.980 We can't, we can't, we don't even, we don't even have the power to power all these electric vehicles.

00:42:20.160 So I think, I think Canadians are waking up.

00:42:22.940 I think, I think we can still be on the same team.

00:42:25.560 I think we can, hopefully, I'm hopeful we can move away from this us versus them dialogue.

00:42:29.920 Yeah.

00:42:30.360 And I mean, just to go back to Danielle Smith's government now, I mean, pre-premier Danielle Smith,

00:42:35.500 Private sector, Danielle Smith, has been talking a lot over the last couple of years about private sector innovations, about carbon capturing, recycling, about all of these things that get to what the government federally says is its stated benefit, which is low to net zero emissions without carbon taxes, without punitive measures that go after the oil and gas sector.

00:42:56.520 but I know that net zero is a divisive issue among oil and gas advocates and you know there

00:43:02.600 are some people that feel that you know talking about emissions is basically accepting the premise

00:43:06.880 of the oil and gas sectors critics and I was wondering how you navigate that battle because

00:43:11.240 I know you see it among your supporters too I'm assuming yeah absolutely I think we can talk more

00:43:17.100 about low emissions right you know we're we're striving every day there's such innovations going

00:43:23.040 on in the industry and every day they're working toward uh cleaner cleaner solutions and and to low

00:43:28.960 emissions and i think i think we'll get there and i think under premier smith's leadership

00:43:33.200 we are i think i think we've got the right leader in place certainly for our energy sector i think

00:43:38.000 she really knows her stuff she's been very uh acutely engaged for many years and i like what

00:43:44.080 she's saying and i think it's resonating with with albertans and i think she will stand up

00:43:48.000 you know strongly for our energy sector so so when we talk to people you know nothing's perfect

00:43:52.880 right our oil sands aren't perfect and it's all a work in progress but but the the point is is the

00:43:57.920 world needs more not less oil and gas fact it's going to be that way for our foreseeable future

00:44:04.400 so do we want to be getting this from um you know do we want to be getting unethical conflict oil

00:44:11.040 or do we want to be doing it right here i mean the answer is pretty clear just to go back to

00:44:17.440 that's kind of the way sorry sorry about that Lindsay I just to go back to the Schellenberger

00:44:22.180 event and advocacy and outreach on a regular basis do you find that this issue has undecided

00:44:27.840 or do you find that it's the you know the the anti-oil and gas sector position that right now

00:44:32.160 has a home in the government and a lot of ENGOs the pro-oil and gas sector position do you find

00:44:37.380 there is a middle ground there that you're able to reach yeah I find so I find you know we are in

00:44:43.600 bit of a bubble here of course in alberta it's it's i'm hard pressed to find many people in

00:44:47.700 alberta who oppose our oil sands now certainly when you travel across the country i think you're

00:44:52.700 finding that yeah if you come to my province that's a bit of a different story certainly but

00:44:56.840 you know it's really interesting our our mutual friend robbie picard with oil sand strong he just

00:45:00.860 returned from his two month long uh a pretty incredible bus tour to ottawa and he was you

00:45:06.000 know he was remarking in a video that he put out the other day that you know there is a bit of a

00:45:10.380 division and there's some misconceptions out there, but largely I'm meeting people across

00:45:14.540 the country that aren't against our oil and gas. So I think that, you know, the NGOs and some of

00:45:20.480 the really leftist organizations out there and the federal government, I think they're putting

00:45:25.380 forth this dialogue as if it's coming from the people, but it's not coming from the people. It's

00:45:29.200 coming from those above us, that dialogue. I think your average everyday Canadian is largely

00:45:34.440 understands, yeah, we do have the best oil and gas here in the world. Yeah, the alternatives

00:45:40.700 aren't so desirable. Yes, it employs a tremendous amount of people, including it's the biggest

00:45:45.640 employer of high-paying jobs for our First Nations, our Indigenous people. So I think most Canadians,

00:45:53.760 I think that story is coming through. I'm pretty optimistic about that.

00:45:57.820 Well, and just, I mean, on a related note, and I'm throwing you a curveball here. I didn't tell

00:46:01.420 you I was going to bring it up so I hope you've read it or can nod politely as though you did

00:46:05.160 but just this morning SecondStreet.org published a study that found Canada could displace

00:46:10.520 half of Russian energy so this is a survey of oil and gas experts they suggest Canada could

00:46:16.400 displace up to 59 percent of Russian natural gas experts up to exports and up to 46 percent of

00:46:23.540 Russian oil sales over the next decade and all you need to do is basically let government get

00:46:28.500 out of the way here yeah absolutely i mean like danielle smith says um you know premier highlights

00:46:34.820 the private public partnerships and and and really i think most of us in conservative circles really

00:46:40.740 see that right we can't just give the government a big carte blanche to bloat everything right we

00:46:45.460 we need to create a business friendly culture and environment uh and you know attract investors

00:46:51.380 right and we went through a few years there we're going to go back to 2015 to 2019 where there was

00:46:56.580 a tremendous amount of investor uncertainty that was i believe created by largely by an ndp government

00:47:03.380 which was very focused on an aggressive climate agenda agenda and demonizing our oil science

00:47:08.580 sounds and i think uh you know we paid the price for that and we've come out of that now and it is

00:47:14.820 devastatingly sad that it's taking the war in ukraine to to highlight yeah um what's happening

00:47:21.220 with the despot oil and the reliances on it but it's it's really blowing the whole picture up

00:47:25.300 isn't it andrew i think it's making the average person really see i think it's been a real eye

00:47:29.540 opener and um again my heart breaks that it takes such a travesty like that to show to show canadians

00:47:35.940 to wake people up yeah i would certainly agree with that i know it's a couple hours away but

00:47:40.660 can people still get in on this michael schellenberger event yes yes i i really hope

00:47:46.180 that i'll see many of your beautiful faces there tonight the doors open at five o'clock we will have

00:47:50.580 some tickets available at the door but if you go to any of our social medias if you go to like

00:47:55.860 we're albertaproud on facebook instagram everything like that twitter if you go to our socials there

00:48:00.740 are tick there is a ticket link right at the top of the page there you can click on that 45 bucks

00:48:05.540 gets you beef on a bun and some snacks and there's a cash bar there um i'm going to be hosting we're

00:48:10.900 going to have uh michael shellenberger shellenberger is going to present and then we've got a guest

00:48:15.780 panel. We're going to have former Ward 11 Councillor Jeremy Farkas there. We're going to

00:48:20.500 have Dale Swampy from the National Coalition of Chiefs. And we're going to also have Marshall

00:48:25.860 Smith, Chief of Staff to Premier Danielle Smith there as well. And we're hoping to have facilitate

00:48:30.740 a really healthy discussion where we're going to take some questions from the floor as well

00:48:35.460 on our best in the world, all better energy, why Calgary needs to be at the front of that,

00:48:41.060 front and center of that and and at the same breath talking about Michael's other expert

00:48:46.180 subject which is how you know some of these progressive policies have been destroying our

00:48:51.620 cities and destroying our economies and uh it's pretty powerful because you know little known

00:48:56.820 maybe to some but Marshall Smith is a himself has his own really uh amazing story his own personal

00:49:02.660 story of addiction and homelessness and he uh has done some really tremendous work within the UCP

00:49:08.980 government to transform and to catapult this alberta model to move away from harm reduction

00:49:16.020 and safe supply which we're seeing kind of the travesties in cities like san francisco and and

00:49:22.100 vancouver and and the effects of that and moving away from that into a recovery first model so i

00:49:27.140 think it's going to be a really great discussion tonight and i'm hoping to see so many people

00:49:30.580 there so we're we've got a few hundred people attending but we still have some tickets left

00:49:35.380 and yes there are tickets at the door so please join us there's great parking it's at the west

00:49:39.260 end at the calgary airport and and thank you i hope to see you there all right lindsey wilson

00:49:44.420 president of alberta proud good to get you on the show thanks for coming on today

00:49:47.540 thank you i hope to see you again sometime soon likewise i always always enjoy heading out to

00:49:53.140 alberta so thank you for that and speaking of which unrelated to that event i am going to be

00:49:57.460 out in alberta this weekend so if you want to come out to rebel news live you can find out about that

00:50:02.660 at rebelnewslive.com and I will be there I'm not I don't even think I'm on the website because I

00:50:07.300 was supposed to originally just do the Toronto one and I don't know I guess like the caterer

00:50:10.800 cancelled or something so uh they invited me but I am going to be there so if you are there come

00:50:15.160 out and say hello that does it for me for today we'll be back tomorrow with more of Canada's most

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