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00:00:00.000 welcome everyone to another edition of fake news friday finding our way through the blizzard of

00:00:15.600 lies that so often is heaped upon us by politicians and the mainstream media alike i am andrew lott

00:00:22.260 and it is friday october 28th and i'm joined as always by harrison faulkner who you can normally

00:00:27.840 catch on ratioed and harrison has been dutifully and diligently watching the public order emergency

00:00:35.020 commission hearings all week as have i and you're still awake you've managed to survive to friday

00:00:40.300 it's it's it's been difficult i mean i think you touched on it on your show uh yesterday wednesday

00:00:45.320 what what day it was that you know this has been there are parts of it that are extremely exciting

00:00:50.540 and then there are parts of it that are just so dull so difficult to get through and i feel like

00:00:56.100 they're kind of at a lot of times they're trying to muddy the waters and slow things down but

00:00:59.980 it's been you know what it's been really eye-opening and i think we're gonna there's some there's some

00:01:03.840 reporting that we're going to talk about on the show today that just shows you where the different

00:01:08.000 sides of the media are coming from this uh and where the narratives are coming at and what what

00:01:12.840 people are trying to do it's really at one side is trying to get to the bottom of the emergencies act

00:01:17.980 and then a bunch of other sides of this are trying to discover for their clients right trying to make

00:01:23.540 sure that they can clean their hands of this mess and try and pin the blame on somebody else but

00:01:28.700 all that is to say that on the show it's sometimes difficult andrew to find great examples of fake

00:01:34.040 news and then sometimes some weeks we get literal fake news like actual just fake reporting into our

00:01:41.480 hands that just land to us and just and we all of a sudden have a full show full of actual examples

00:01:46.760 of fake news not that other shows aren't fully fake news but this one this one's pretty good i've never

00:01:52.480 seen actually this many examples of just straight up fake news quite literally fake news so excited

00:01:58.680 to get into it yeah let's get into it and first off let me congratulate the new mayor elect of winnipeg

00:02:05.040 mr glenn murray what's that glenn murray isn't the mayor of winnipeg no okay scott gillingham

00:02:15.100 okay that's not what ctv said no no ctv was very clear glenn murray had been elected mayor of winnipeg

00:02:25.320 in wednesday night's election they declared it they uh said that he he was the victor it was all done

00:02:32.600 they were popping champagne corks and if you look the results it looked pretty close not something

00:02:38.440 you'd want to necessarily be calling that early uh then ctv of course ends up deleting it and says

00:02:44.140 ctv news has deleted a previous tweet saying glenn murray was declared elected by the ctv news

00:02:50.120 decision desk the desk is now revisiting the numbers as more polls come in as of now ctv news is not

00:02:57.040 declaring a mayoral winner in winnipeg so this wasn't just an erroneous tweet it wasn't just like

00:03:02.380 the jerry lewis uh or the jerry lee lewis obituary that they just like accidentally published uh before

00:03:08.520 they should have no this was one where their decision desk whatever that is at ctv winnipeg had

00:03:13.980 decided that he had won and was very far off the mark there so it was literal fake news you're right

00:03:21.680 no well and i i have to say when i was watching this unfold i had a little bit of sympathy because

00:03:27.040 i i didn't fully i i thought it might have been an error like i thought you know here's a little

00:03:31.560 secret for people who don't know this of course this is this is the truth a lot of these articles

00:03:36.020 are pre-written before the actual results are out so you can get stuff up when it happens and so i

00:03:41.280 thought at the moment i thought oh you know this is a bad mistake from some junior editor somewhere

00:03:46.660 yeah they just published like a few minutes too early or something and then and but then but then

00:03:51.500 they put the tweet up andrew so they published the article and then they put the tweet up as well

00:03:56.400 basically making it seem as though to uh the poor glenn murray camp who had their fleeting moment of

00:04:02.740 glenn murray's mayoralty of winnipeg was was short uh but it ended very quickly right it ended quickly

00:04:10.040 on that same night because uh he had won but then he had lost because ctv just made a big error there

00:04:17.140 and i think there was there was talk about how this had happened i think in quebec city previously or

00:04:21.340 another quebec city where the the news covering the event called the wrong winner and then had to pull

00:04:27.540 it back and then and then figure it all out but i'm just trying to figure out where how are these

00:04:31.940 decision makers getting the getting these stuff getting this stuff wrong andrew how are they making

00:04:36.260 this point where they they call a winner and then they have enough it's it's close enough for it to

00:04:41.360 keep going and it goes to somebody else that's a big time error there and it's not just a it's not

00:04:46.080 just an error by a junior editor they published the article then they put the tweet up after just to

00:04:50.240 just to rub salt in their own wound i guess i'm not sure what was going on over there at ctv winnipeg

00:04:55.220 news outlets have people that are experts in statistics and mathematics and people that know the

00:05:00.800 political histories and they're comparing county demographics to past election results and uh when

00:05:06.760 they make a decision that you know joe biden has won iowa or something they're they're doing it with

00:05:12.000 all of that and it's not to say they don't get it wrong sometimes i know in the last election there

00:05:16.580 was a lot of controversy about fox calling arizona for biden even though that ended up being

00:05:20.680 right ultimately but like i don't know and with all due respect to the people of winnipeg and ctv

00:05:26.360 winnipeg i don't know how sophisticated the decision desk is at winnipeg like i don't know

00:05:31.660 if ctv winnipeg's decision desk has all of the quants with their numbers or if it's just like a

00:05:38.260 guy named joe who just kind of looks and says yeah that that looks like a murray that looks like a

00:05:43.740 murray win i said that i think that's the big challenge here but a lot was hinging on him a lot

00:05:48.000 was hinging or her a lot was hinging on that person at the decision desk and they fell short of

00:05:53.240 expectations maybe andrew was one of those things where the the the the guy making the counting that

00:05:58.580 doing the counting for ctv news had some plans later in the evening it was getting later than he had

00:06:02.600 wanted things had been pushed back he thought you know i'm just done tonight i'm just gonna call it

00:06:07.180 pack up my things i don't want to do overtime i'm heading home uh murray's in the lead right now

00:06:12.420 i really hope i didn't call this wrong it would really be that i'm out he's doing the george

00:06:18.380 costanza thing i'm out yeah exactly and then turns out well they they called the race wrong so

00:06:23.840 an example of of straight fake news you got it it's just perfect fodder for the show and uh like i

00:06:30.020 said it doesn't come around that that often you have to say they're not they're not this this bad

00:06:34.820 right but when it when it does happen it deserves mockery and that's a big error there that's it's

00:06:39.720 not just uh it's not just a a little error by somebody a junior uh a junior journalist at ctv

00:06:45.520 news winnipeg no that's a that's a full-on missed call so scott gillingham is the mayor of winnipeg

00:06:52.000 and glenn murray is desperately trying to put corks back in champagne bottles so he can get the refund

00:06:57.200 at the local liquor store there uh let's move one province east from manitoba to ontario where some

00:07:06.620 of you are looking at your map trying to fact check me just now i know that yeah i know my ontario

00:07:10.780 manitoba geography sadly uh doug ford as we know last week was issued a summons to testify before

00:07:17.740 the public order emergency commission as was his former solicitor general sylvia jones now sylvia

00:07:24.620 jones has come down with covid in the last day which i presume is the same strain of covid that

00:07:31.440 justin trudeau got when the truckers came to ottawa and wanted to meet with him so it's a very very

00:07:36.960 pervasive train right when your presence is needed somewhere it hits you and it's very unpleasant but

00:07:42.800 doug ford doesn't have the convenient excuse of covid to not testify he's just saying he doesn't want to

00:07:49.280 and doesn't think he should have to but here's where the fake news friday material comes from because

00:07:55.360 when doug ford was previously discussing this he was rather clear that the reason he wasn't

00:08:00.720 testifying is because he had never been asked so he said that he had never been asked right at a

00:08:06.800 press conference standing with justin trudeau this was at the beginning of last week he said while

00:08:12.240 standing side by side with justin trudeau that he stood shoulder to shoulder with justin trudeau over

00:08:17.680 his invocation of the emergencies act and when asked by reporters why he wasn't testifying at the

00:08:23.200 emergencies act commission given that the ottawa mayor and the entire senior federal cabinet pretty much

00:08:29.520 is also testifying including the prime minister he was noticeably absent from the witness list along

00:08:34.960 with sylvia jones so reporters started asking him what are you what are you why are you not testifying

00:08:39.680 here what's the deal with that and he plainly and flatly said to reporters i have not been asked to

00:08:45.600 testify i don't think it's that i don't think we need to get a transcript here and parts of the language

00:08:50.000 it's quite clear to the ear doug ford saying i have not been asked to testify at the emergencies act

00:08:55.680 commission now again we're going to go through this because you'll realize that there's some

00:08:59.280 there's some there's some games being played with them by the media here some who are trying to

00:09:03.840 basically i think kind of sweep under the rug the fact that doug ford is now as now two different

00:09:10.480 completely different stories in as many weeks andrew again he's saying he was never asked to testify so

00:09:15.440 here's that clip that he was never asked to testify while standing beside justin trudeau

00:09:20.400 hi david thurton cbc i'm going to ask this question to premier ford going back to my

00:09:24.400 colleague kevin gallagher's question how come premier ford you're not testifying at this

00:09:29.440 inquiry were you asked did you decline i have not i have not been asked again i want to repeat what i

00:09:37.840 said earlier we have top officials uh from the opp that were running the operation with conjunction

00:09:43.120 with municipal uh police agencies and uh the rcmp you know our police did an incredible job they were

00:09:50.800 very peaceful they moved forward and i am so proud to stand here and back our police right across this

00:09:56.000 country and right across this province i'll always support our police they're professional they're

00:10:00.720 polite and they ended up getting the job uh done thank you so that was early last week then the canadian

00:10:08.720 then the emergencies act commission summoned uh premier ford and sylvia jones so they said we've we've

00:10:15.120 tried to get you to come here twice now you've turned us down now twice so because of that

00:10:20.720 we're now summoning you to appear under oath again that kind of that kind of flies in the face of

00:10:25.760 what doug ford had been saying which was he had never been asked to testify the emergencies act

00:10:30.960 commission now says he has they sent him two invitations to testify and it was repeatedly turned

00:10:36.400 down so then here's where it gets interesting the story has all of a sudden changed from doug ford

00:10:41.600 but here's where cp24 and fake news comes in listen to this cp24 report on october 24th

00:10:49.280 talking about the summons that doug ford had received and listen click listen carefully at

00:10:54.080 about 20 seconds in to what the journalist says regarding doug ford having been told by the

00:10:59.440 commission to testify listen into that lawyers for the public order emergency commission say they

00:11:04.960 asked ford and jones to sit down last month but both of them refused multiple requests last week ford

00:11:10.960 told reporters he'd been asked to appear a letter sent from the commission says it believes ford and jones

00:11:16.640 have relevant evidence to the inquiry's mandate however the attorney general's office says it plans

00:11:21.840 to fight the summons there it is andrew so the the journalist there in the cp24 report says very

00:11:27.920 clearly doug ford told reporters he had been asked to testify now we can go back to the other clip

00:11:35.040 and we can listen to that but one more time i'm pretty sure the premier says i was never asked to

00:11:39.440 testify by the emergencies act commission so there it is andrew i'm trying to figure out what's right and

00:11:44.560 what's wrong here how could cp24 tell the people tell people in toronto in their audience that doug

00:11:50.320 ford told reporters he had been asked to testify he clearly said he didn't i mean again this is another

00:11:56.160 example of straight fake news and it's kind of gone under the radar because it's just one little

00:12:00.400 slip of a word in about in a two-second clip on cp24 but these things matter to me and i think it

00:12:06.640 deserves to be called out it's the old groucho marks thing that cp24 is now appropriated as its slogan

00:12:12.320 who are you going to believe us or your lion eyes so it doesn't matter what you saw and heard yourself

00:12:16.880 from doug ford we're telling you no no no he said he was invited it's all good and look mistakes happen

00:12:22.320 accidents happen uh you ideally make a correction and move on but i think in general there's a bigger

00:12:28.240 issue right now in the media not really holding doug ford's feet to the fire on this and this is a guy

00:12:34.880 who i think has been sucking up to justin trudeau who's been sucking up to the mainstream media

00:12:39.360 and right now maybe i'm just in my own little echo chamber here but i've been looking and i'm not

00:12:43.840 seeing the uh anger from the media i'm not seeing the outrage i'm not even seeing all of the uh i'm

00:12:49.280 not even seeing much of the questioning of him at those opportunities where the press can put

00:12:54.320 questions to doug ford about it it seems like he took the right position and now he's getting a pass

00:13:00.400 is very strange to me again and just in regards to the sylvia jones excuse i'm just checking my calendar

00:13:05.920 and it appears under that i have covid next week which is going to be very convenient for me so i

00:13:10.000 can take some much needed time off myself uh but again i you said that ford won't have that excuse

00:13:16.800 i don't think he will be able to use that and like you said the media are not calling him out for

00:13:21.680 blatantly telling them something that isn't the case for trying to go with a line uh that that is

00:13:26.560 just not true um it's it's strange to me that in a different day or in a different time doug ford

00:13:32.160 be raked over the coals for trying to get away with this from the media but it's it we're in

00:13:36.640 this strange time right now where where doug ford seems to be getting a pass from the media the ndp

00:13:42.160 in the ontario ndp and the legislature are trying to do their best to hold uh his feet to the fire

00:13:48.240 but it seems they're the only people that are doing this right now i do have to say i saw on

00:13:52.400 wednesday night a great rant from breakfast television co-host sid cicero who usually has some

00:13:58.320 pretty good takes um i consider him to be pretty much down the line on a lot of this stuff he'll

00:14:03.040 he's an equal opportunity a slanderer which i actually appreciate in politics he goes after 1.00

00:14:07.760 everyone and he actually he actually put forward uh right in his place and made it very clear that

00:14:12.160 you can't just get away with saying one thing uh one week and then the exact opposite the next

00:14:16.400 there's a word for that um and uh and he used that word uh which i think is appropriate because

00:14:21.760 it's time that doug ford gets called out for this i don't understand what he's running for

00:14:26.320 what he's running from and why he's refusing to testify it seems and looks very shady and it

00:14:31.920 doesn't doesn't doesn't make him look like he's uh like he like he's some total neutral player in

00:14:37.280 this all it looks like he has something to hide no yeah i'd agree very much with that this is a bit

00:14:42.400 of a weird topic because it goes back to one we i can't remember if we did it on this show a couple

00:14:47.440 of weeks ago or if it was just on my show or if it was just on twitter or if i dreamed the whole thing

00:14:51.440 but uh it'll be a story that's a couple of weeks old now which is the uh somehow losing the ability

00:14:58.000 to speak english under oath when you've been testifying under oath in english for uh several

00:15:03.600 hours and using words like specificity and microaggression uh that was ottawa city councillor

00:15:09.840 matthew flurry but sometimes the opinion columnists are a little bit late to the party here i am myself

00:15:16.400 of a victim of that it'll take me a while to write a column and by the time i published it other

00:15:20.320 people have moved on but i think it's still relevant uh in this particular case the toronto

00:15:24.720 star in a piece on the 26th so that was wednesday of this week uh took aim at francophobia at the

00:15:32.160 emergencies act inquiry it was a piece contributed by isabel borgo tasse which i believe is an irish

00:15:40.160 chinese name if memory serves but uh isabel borgo tasse says that francophony meets francophobia

00:15:48.560 at the emergencies act inquiry and she says english is always first the french follows my tongue is

00:15:55.040 put in its place disquieting absence of the first nations inuit and metis languages manifestations of

00:16:02.160 canada's troubling linguistic pecking order emblematic of the country's colonial history man in like

00:16:09.440 diverse woke bingo that one just like got a straight line a box the four corners diagonal line

00:16:16.320 everything and what i find interesting about this the column just goes on to talk about uh you know

00:16:22.880 matthew flurry's francophone anglophone distinction and all of that but it's like of all the things you

00:16:29.520 take from that like we made fun of the language thing but it wasn't actually like the central thesis

00:16:34.480 of the public order emergency commission's work it's like that like you just have to be really looking

00:16:39.040 for a grievance if you've been watching the what is it 11 12 days of testimony now and that's the one

00:16:44.800 the the one thing you've taken from it is they're francophobes i i you know it's very easy i think

00:16:51.280 sometimes if you're really plugged into the the day-to-day news and it's your job to read too much

00:16:57.360 into things and i think all of us at certain points fall victim to that just analyze over analyzing

00:17:02.480 things and reading too deep into them the reality is as we all know matthew flurry just miraculously

00:17:09.120 forgot how to speak english when he was put in his place and asked to define a word that he had accused

00:17:13.520 truckers of of committing microaggressions multiple times the second he was asked to find that he

00:17:19.360 breaks out the whole i'm francophone for the first time i should say in the in the hearing the only

00:17:24.480 time he broke that out was when he was being cross-examined by brendan miller the convoy lawyer

00:17:28.800 so very very very creative excuse to just decide actually i'm not going to be able to speak in

00:17:34.240 english for this one section and i'm going to go back to speaking english just fine without an

00:17:39.760 accent without a problem right after right after i'm done being questioned by someone i don't like

00:17:44.320 and that's really what this is all about and the article itself is so absurd andrew you talked about

00:17:49.040 the the woke bingo card the fact that you know it will be an instant win those aren't even all those

00:17:53.440 aren't even all like the sort of fake words they're putting into this article there's one here anglo

00:17:58.000 normativity which i haven't heard before it's like this idea i guess i guess it's it's becoming too

00:18:03.040 normal andrew to speak english in canada last time i checked i think english is uh is the dominant

00:18:09.760 in canada by quite a significant ways so i guess in that in that instance canada is far too anglo

00:18:16.800 normative and i guess the point of this whole article is to basically say that we are far we

00:18:22.720 speak too much english in this country and it's not right at the beginning this writer says that

00:18:28.240 along with the fact that english is always first and french follows it's in tandem with the curious

00:18:33.760 disquieting absence of first nations inuit and metis languages and i'm just trying to figure this

00:18:38.880 out andrew like are we supposed is this article trying to basically tell us that we need to have

00:18:43.680 um inuit metis and first nations languages um in government documents in more public places

00:18:51.280 like is that going to help us better understand things that are going on i i'm very confused about

00:18:56.240 all this and the reality is you don't always have to defend people for you know absurd things that

00:19:02.480 they're doing that are that are obviously absurd i think it's very it would be the average position for

00:19:07.680 anyone who hears this will say uh that's ridiculous this guy sounds like he's just 0.71

00:19:12.240 bitter and trying to avoid answering questions we don't need to have some great big francophone 0.83

00:19:17.440 anglophone debate over this it's clear that matthew fleur was obviously playing around trying to mess

00:19:23.440 around and he got called out for it by miller who who who rightly said if he was asked to speak french

00:19:30.480 he reintroduced himself as je m'appelle brendan the perfect response in my opinion andrew to such a

00:19:35.280 ridiculous thing to try and try and pull like that as if as if no one was really paying attention

00:19:40.000 yeah a lot i mean look the the grievance is that and and i believe the writer is a franco-ontarian

00:19:45.040 in which she's even more of a linguistic minority than being a quebecois french speaker but the reality

00:19:52.080 is we can say we're an officially bilingual country but functionally english is the language

00:19:57.600 of this country you it would be very difficult for you to get by by speaking only french uh and even

00:20:02.640 then you can probably get away with it if you have certain jobs in quebec where you can just pretend

00:20:06.960 you don't speak english which i'm convinced is what like all of the quebec civil servants i've

00:20:10.960 encountered are doing but i generally speaking i mean there are people that just like don't like that

00:20:15.760 they lost in 1763 and that this is an english dominant country and i think that's what this comes

00:20:21.440 down to but it is ridiculous and and it's not to say that if he were genuinely struggling that he should

00:20:27.120 have been given a hand by the translator but the issue is it was only at that precise moment that he

00:20:32.480 he lost the ability to speak in the language he'd been testifying in but uh nevertheless uh this is

00:20:39.040 from the toronto star so what do you expect uh we all i mean i think that was a lighter note uh but

00:20:44.640 we always tend to uh end on lighter notes what else do we have coming up so we're talking about cp24 to

00:20:51.600 end off the show this week we we had a great example of cp24 being you know pushing fake news but we're not

00:20:57.120 done just yet we've got one more story and it's worth just reading the headline of this story so you guys

00:21:01.520 you don't understand where cp24 is coming from the headline reads mountie wears thin blue line

00:21:06.880 patch while escorting man convicted of hate crime so again the story could be about the man convicted

00:21:12.480 of hate crime what he did wrong and trying to understand that as that's usually the story not

00:21:17.280 usually the pants that the officer was wearing who escorted the man but nonetheless this is cp24

00:21:22.160 coming in to give us the real hard-hitting news andrew the the man the mountie wearing a thin blue

00:21:28.000 line patch while escorting the man convicted of hate crime and this writes the officer displayed

00:21:33.600 a thin blue line patch on the left side of his hat thursday as he transferred uh the travis patron

00:21:39.200 back to jail from quartz king bench and estevin and then the story says the symbol has been associated

00:21:45.360 with white nationalist movements was recently worn by a saskatchewan mountie while escorting an

00:21:50.080 inmate who had just been sentenced for hate speech you could almost know exactly where this story was

00:21:53.840 headed right when when it was talking about the patch that the officer was wearing oh you just

00:21:58.000 know it's actually going to be about some of the thin blue line being connected with white nationals

00:22:02.400 movements of course it was and here's the thing like the whole story is based on this idea that

00:22:07.840 you're supposed to read this and assume that the thin blue line patch is problematic as they say that

00:22:13.600 you're supposed to look at it and see that it must be hateful or white supremacist and hence the

00:22:17.840 justification and the funny thing is even the expert they cite who is this woman that will be

00:22:24.160 cited in like any story about hate groups and radical groups in canada barbara perry director of

00:22:29.440 the so-called center for hate bias and extremism at ontario tech university uh barbara perry doesn't

00:22:35.680 even say it's hateful she's like well the the symbol is purposely ambiguous so it it could be bad it

00:22:41.840 could be good you never know and uh the rcmp they're saying yeah we'll we'll look and we'll re-educate

00:22:47.200 everyone on the uniform and dress manual and the implications the thin blue line may have the thin

00:22:52.960 blue line has nothing to do with radicalism nothing to do with hate it refers to this idea of policing

00:23:00.400 as being the line that keeps society from defending into violent chaos i'm quoting that directly for

00:23:06.720 police officers it's generally something they just take as a point of pride that they are part of this

00:23:12.640 blue line that serves society uh oftentimes people use the term blue line in a derisive way as far as

00:23:19.440 like police only uh supporting police and not wanting to criticize each other but generally

00:23:24.880 speaking there's nothing hateful about that patch i know nothing about the officer maybe the officer

00:23:30.000 is like a you know ethnic minority racial minority lgbt uh woke diverse person maybe he is a white

00:23:39.120 supremacist i have no idea and i don't care but the patch itself is irrelevant and redundant and

00:23:46.000 the cp24 article is trying to make it out to be at some smoking gun of uh hatred which i just uh find

00:23:52.240 absurd no and god forbid the officers want to you know show some show some solidarity with their fellow

00:23:58.480 officers have some pride in the job they do which is one that we need them to do which is to protect

00:24:04.000 us i mean we should never let them be proud of that and that's such a bad thing and it goes even

00:24:09.200 further the rcmp in this article basically write this groveling you know apology about the thin blue

00:24:14.640 line patch worn by one of their officers and in this are in this the the rcmp are quoted as saying

00:24:19.840 the photos bring forth a good opportunity for senior management including the saskatchewan rcmp

00:24:24.320 sergeant major to re-educate individuals on the rcmp's uniform and dress manual and the implications

00:24:30.080 the thin blue line may have to segments of the community we serve there it is we have to re-educate

00:24:34.560 our officers because they dared andrew to show some they show some solidarity with their fellow

00:24:39.760 officers and have some pride in the job they take to keep us safe i mean what what strange times

00:24:44.720 you're living in and how could this be the story of the article how could this be the story in the

00:24:49.920 article yeah patch politics the newest product of cp24 that does it for today we'll have lots more

00:24:57.600 next week here on fake news friday also on ratioed on the andrew lawton show the rupa subramania show

00:25:03.520 reality check alberta roundup all sorts of programs and i hope you will tune into them and check out tnc.news

00:25:10.320 uh joined by harrison faulkner i'm andrew lawton have a great weekend everyone

Juno News - October 28, 2022

CTV News is LITERALLY fake news!

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