Juno News - January 30, 2025


Danielle Smith calls for a Canadian BORDER CZAR


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1 hour

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11,685

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673

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great show
00:00:14.780 lined up for you today. We have to talk about the most important issue of the day, which is
00:00:20.080 Canada's immigration crisis. We have an immigration crisis that has caused a border crisis in this
00:00:25.460 country. This has been years and years in the making. I myself and many others have been ringing
00:00:30.600 the alarm bell, urging the Trudeau government to take this issue seriously. But the liberals
00:00:35.020 disastrous immigration policies, our disastrous national security policies are finally blowing
00:00:40.180 up in their faces. And it's also blowing up in our faces. So we know that the Trump administration
00:00:44.780 continues to make it very clear to us. They're saying to fix our borders, to stop allowing
00:00:50.320 terrorists to cross the border, to stop allowing drugs and fentanyl to cross the border. Otherwise
00:00:54.700 we'll face disastrous tariffs. Well, Trudeau continues to ignore these warnings. And meanwhile,
00:01:00.220 Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is the only political leader calling him out. So we're going to talk
00:01:06.340 about the latest, including Danielle Smith's calls to have a border czar in Canada. We desperately
00:01:11.700 need it. We're going to talk a little bit about the liberal leadership race. We'll talk about
00:01:16.420 Quebec's new immigration and integration bill that they're proposing and all the other big news stories
00:01:22.760 of the day. I'm very excited to be joined by two new guests to the podcast. Never had them on before.
00:01:27.100 I'm talking about Jonathan Harvey and Liam DeBoer. These two together are the hosts of the Blender
00:01:33.460 Report podcast. I love their stuff. I see their videos all over social media. They're always hitting
00:01:37.740 the nail right on the head with very pointed discussion and debate when it comes to issues like
00:01:42.900 politics, immigration, public policy, and especially corruption. So guys, thank you so much for
00:01:48.600 joining the podcast. Great to have you here. Hey, Candace. Thanks for having us on.
00:01:52.620 Okay. So let's start with this call from Danielle Smith, Alberta Premier. She's been taking the lead
00:01:57.540 when it comes to what I think is the correct approach to dealing with Donald Trump, which is a
00:02:01.940 little bit of diplomacy and a little bit of listening to the things that he's saying, right? He wants us to
00:02:06.680 fix the border. He wants us to fix our immigration systems, immigration system. These are known issues
00:02:11.860 for us. We know that these are creating huge problems. So let's start by playing this clip. This is
00:02:16.180 Danielle Smith saying that Canada needs a border czar, similar to what Trump appointed with Tom
00:02:22.340 Homan, someone who can help us crack down on the fentanyl, crack down on the illegal immigration.
00:02:27.460 Let's play that clip. Let me say it again. The one thing that we can do this week in just the next
00:02:33.680 couple of days to have the best chance to avoid tariffs is to show clear and unequivocal action to
00:02:40.660 secure the border. This should start with the appointment of a Canadian border czar to work
00:02:45.720 with the new American border czar to jointly crack down hard on fentanyl and illegal migrants.
00:02:51.800 Is this likely to end the threat of tariffs entirely? I don't think so. I think there will be other
00:02:56.840 things that we will need to work on and we will do so. But I am convinced after speaking with dozens
00:03:03.640 of elected U.S. representatives, administration officials, and the president himself, that this is
00:03:10.200 the most important first step. Today, I reiterated this to the premiers, Minister LeBlanc, Minister
00:03:15.640 Wilkinson, and Prime Minister Trudeau. And I hope it is acted on by the end of this week before February 1st.
00:03:24.040 So there you have it, Smith taking on the leadership role. Liam, I'll start with you. What do you think
00:03:28.120 of Danielle Smith's call there for borders are? And what do you make more broadly of this entire issue?
00:03:32.840 I don't know if it fully addresses the issue in its entirety. Because, you know, right now,
00:03:40.280 the Canada-U.S. border is the largest unmanned border on the planet, essentially. And one thing that
00:03:49.400 Luke Sabrin, a CBSA whistleblower, detailed in our interview with him is that the main issue is that
00:03:56.440 we're first granting a lot of these people asylum and citizenship. And so, you know, yes, sure, we can
00:04:03.960 monitor our border more. But the issue is that a lot of these people are coming here in the first place.
00:04:09.880 So there's a few famous cases. So a couple months ago, the Ahmed al-Didi case, where a ISIS member who
00:04:19.800 was filmed dismembering somebody for ISIS was granted Canadian citizenship. We're seeing it all
00:04:27.080 over the place, a lot of instances like that. And so I don't know if really just monitoring the border
00:04:35.240 fixes the issue in its entirety. It seems more like a Band-Aid than anything.
00:04:39.400 Well, you're absolutely right. And it's a decade in the making of Trudeau's disastrous
00:04:43.640 immigration policies, not screening people, not vetting them. The idea of asylum seekers just being
00:04:49.080 able to walk in. We don't really know who they are. We don't really know where they came from.
00:04:52.680 In many cases, their documents are either gone or they've been falsified. They're fake.
00:04:57.400 In the interview that you did with that CBSA official, retired official, what was it? He said
00:05:02.520 that there was 300,000 missing passports that a terrorist group had stolen blank Canadian passports,
00:05:08.120 and we're now using them to issue fake passports. It's kind of unbelievable how broken our system is.
00:05:13.800 I don't think that this solution of a BordersR will fix everything, but I think it's a step in the
00:05:18.200 right direction. What do you think, Jonathan? Well, here's the challenge. I agree with both
00:05:23.640 of you that it's a Band-Aid on a broken leg, but the real problem you have is if it's going to be
00:05:28.200 a BordersR, are they coming from the federal government? The answer is yes. So if it's a
00:05:31.960 liberal BordersR who's aligned with liberal policies, which has got us into this mess,
00:05:36.680 really what value is it? So it's really nothing more than performative if they do that under the
00:05:40.120 Trudeau government, in my opinion. That's true. I think that what Trump wants is action. When I look at the
00:05:46.040 liberal government, I just see they're always coming up with federal strategies and always
00:05:51.240 wanting to create new bureaucracies and new regulatory schemes to fix a problem,
00:05:57.000 whereas Trump is so action-oriented, right? And so I don't know specifically if Tom Holman,
00:06:03.240 who is the American BordersR, is going to be able to fix every single problem when it comes to American
00:06:09.000 immigration and poor southern border. But having a maverick-type character out there defending the
00:06:13.720 policies, leading the charges, saying like defending ICE, defending these government agencies in the
00:06:18.920 U.S. that gets such a bad rap in the media, it is a step in the right direction. I agree that probably
00:06:23.160 the liberals would appoint some terrible bureaucrat, but I think that Canada needs to be more action
00:06:28.200 oriented. So the Trump administration has made it quite clear. So the other day we had a Commerce
00:06:34.840 Secretary nominee, Howard Lutnig, and he was speaking to a U.S. Senate hearing. He made it pretty clear
00:06:42.600 what the Americans are planning to do. So he says here that there's going to be basically a two-phase
00:06:48.760 implementation of the tariffs. They're going to have an emergency action that will be implemented
00:06:54.280 as early as Feb 1, which is this Saturday. And the purpose of that is to mitigate the fentanyl crisis and
00:07:00.120 to stop the flow of deadly drugs into the United States. And then they said that they're also looking
00:07:04.680 to study and implement something on Feb 1, or sorry, on April 1st. This was what the executive order on day
00:07:10.840 one of Trump's administration focused on, which is we're going to study something and see if we can
00:07:15.640 come up with a better tax policy and tariff policy. So that's phase two. Let's play this clip. We have
00:07:20.520 this clip of Commerce Secretary nominee Howard Lutnig. The big tariff view is going to be studied,
00:07:28.600 and the president launched that in an executive order where he asked the Commerce Department and
00:07:33.960 the USTR to study the tariff model long term. The short term issue is illegal migration and worse,
00:07:43.560 even still, fentanyl coming into this country and killing over 100,000 Americans. There's no war we
00:07:50.040 could have that would kill 100,000 Americans. The president is focused on ending fentanyl coming into
00:07:56.280 the country. You know that the labs in Canada are run by Mexican cartels. So this tariff model is
00:08:05.960 simply to shut their borders with respect. Respect America. If we are your biggest trading partner,
00:08:12.200 show us the respect. Shut your border and end fentanyl coming into this country. So it is not a tariff
00:08:18.840 per se. It is an action of domestic policy. Shut your border and stop allowing fentanyl into
00:08:26.200 our country, killing our people. So this is a separate tariff to create action from Mexico and
00:08:34.680 action from Canada. And as far as I know, they are acting swiftly. And if they execute it, there will
00:08:40.760 be no tariff. And if they don't, then there will be. But it's an action oriented model. That's not
00:08:46.920 the ordinary tariff. The ordinary tariffs need to be studied and examined. And that will start,
00:08:52.840 as the EO said in April. So we're talking about two tariffs here. And he says that if there's swift
00:08:59.640 action, we won't bring in the tariff on Feb 1. So in that regard, what Danielle Smith is saying is
00:09:05.880 absolutely right. That we need to take swift action here. We need to show the Americans that
00:09:09.720 we're serious. We don't want fentanyl in our country either. We don't want terrorists in our country
00:09:14.040 either. You know, we have, what, three days here, gentlemen, to try to avoid, you know,
00:09:20.200 economy crushing tariffs here. What do you think we can do?
00:09:26.440 Well, I think one thing that is worth noting as well is the border issue goes both ways. Now,
00:09:33.160 I am on the idea that, yes, that something definitely needs to be done on that front. But,
00:09:40.040 you know, we just saw as well, the big cocaine bust that happened in Toronto there with the $83
00:09:45.240 million worth of cocaine being seized. Was it more?
00:09:51.240 Oops, we can't hear you there, Jonathan.
00:09:54.680 Go ahead. So with that, either way, things are going both directions. Even a lot of the illegal
00:10:02.680 firearms that are in Canada, it was the Peel Regional Police said 90% of the illegal firearms,
00:10:09.160 they come into contact with, are come from America. And the other 10%, they just don't know
00:10:14.760 because the serial numbers are scrubbed. However, they also believe those come from America as well.
00:10:20.360 So I am of the mind that Danielle Smith has the right approach, which is a diplomatic approach and
00:10:26.760 going, hey, you know, this border issue goes both ways. And maybe we need to stop. Well, both governments
00:10:33.160 have facilitated the open border policies for the last four or five years. And so we need to first
00:10:40.760 deal with that issue that those policies have created. But that's going to take a team approach,
00:10:45.960 not necessarily just America pretending like there's nothing on their end, and that it's all coming from
00:10:52.040 Canada south. It's going both ways, for sure.
00:10:55.880 Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, obviously, we're on the same page there. But in terms of like,
00:11:01.560 what can we do in the next few days? I'm of the opinion, we're sort of set up for failure here,
00:11:05.560 because government moves slow. It's what it is, like we have increased the size of government direct
00:11:09.880 federal workforce under Trudeau by 42%. But this country hasn't gotten any better, nothing's moved
00:11:15.560 low, we're not more efficient. We're actually just burning more, more, more money. So when you look
00:11:20.280 at an issue like this, that, you know, agreed team approach, and it's going to be, it's complex,
00:11:26.440 it's not just, I agree with the idea of a border czar, obviously, if it's going to be liberal, I
00:11:30.440 think there's going to be some issues there. But that's only one step, right? These people are
00:11:35.560 looking for a solution to stop this thing, which is all the fentanyl trafficking and the illegal
00:11:40.360 migration. We can't do that in three days, we can't turn that tap off or on that quickly,
00:11:45.240 because our government doesn't really have a handle on these things. So unfortunately,
00:11:50.280 I think whatever our best efforts are going to fall short no matter what. And I do think we have
00:11:55.640 sort of a foundational issue here, because our federal government is trying to go to war with
00:12:01.000 with Trump over this. And it's an unwinnable tariff war, very much bigger player, there's no chance. So
00:12:06.840 I think that their perception of the whole thing is still off. Like I think 10%, 20% of their effort,
00:12:12.280 like in not about mobilization, but just in terms of how they're politicking, 20% of the politicking
00:12:18.040 effort is towards the border and the fentanyl and the other 80% is about managing these tariffs and
00:12:22.760 this tariff war. I think they're just, I think their efforts are going in the wrong direction
00:12:27.240 in a lot of ways for something that's very complex and will take more than, well, three days to solve.
00:12:30.920 So I think we're, I think we're between a rock and a hard place here, to be honest with you.
00:12:34.680 Well, and I just, sorry, I just want to add one perspective there as well, is that you've got
00:12:38.920 Doug Ford and Trudeau both claiming that they're ready to put forward pandemic style spending of
00:12:46.120 stimulus in order to save the economy, right? Well, okay. To, to Jonathan's point about it being 20%
00:12:51.880 of the focus being on the border, I'd say it's almost even less than that, because if they put 1.4
00:12:58.600 billion towards the border security, and then on the other aspect, they're talking about tens of
00:13:05.320 billions into stimulus spending. So they're saying, right, this is what we're willing to a lot for a
00:13:10.600 trade war. This is what we're willing to a lot for the actual problem. Well, the problem with the
00:13:17.320 liberals is that the, the solution to everything that they see is more socialism. Like they, they truly
00:13:23.160 believe that Canadians should have a universal basic income. They want to find ways to pay Canadians,
00:13:28.040 basically to be subservient. And we saw this during COVID with the CERB. It was disastrous
00:13:33.000 for the economy and disastrous for small businesses who just couldn't hire people. Terrible for the
00:13:37.320 psyche of the Canadian people. Like the idea that it'd be better to just stay home and play video
00:13:40.920 games. Like what does that do to a generation of young men and young women? It's like, well,
00:13:44.600 I don't really want to work. I don't really have to. And, you know, we constantly see this,
00:13:49.160 that they, that they use an emergency as an excuse, and they're just going to do it again and again and
00:13:53.560 again, and I, I really, I really fear. I mean, when I, when I, when I look at that pandemic
00:13:57.880 stuff program, it's like, hello, you guys bankrupted the country. Like the reason that
00:14:01.160 we're in a cost of living crisis is because of rampant immigrant, uh, inflation and inflation,
00:14:06.280 because you just flooded the money supply. You gave everybody tons of cash instead of homes.
00:14:09.800 They're printing money. And these problems are all still like spilling out. We're still dealing with
00:14:14.680 it. Uh, Jonathan, you, you, you mentioned, um, that the, that the Trudeau government is kind of
00:14:19.320 trying to respond by playing tough and wanting a trade war. I noticed that industry minister
00:14:23.400 François-Philippe Champagne, uh, posted this link online showing the, a map of the United States'
00:14:28.520 largest trading partners. You can see all the purple there is Canada. So it is true that Canada,
00:14:35.400 uh, that the United States will also suffer from these tariffs. You know, Trump is trying to fix the
00:14:39.960 inflation crisis that Biden created in the United States. Um, adding on these tariffs will make it more
00:14:44.760 expensive, uh, for Americans. Uh, but I think the reality is it's just going to be much, much,
00:14:50.200 much worse for Canadians. So, uh, David Knight Legg, who was a former special advisor to the premier
00:14:56.280 of Alberta, he was a guest on Rachel Parker's show here on True North last week. Um, he responded
00:15:01.880 to François-Philippe Champagne's, um, tweet there with a, with a long post. I'm going to read part of it
00:15:07.160 here and then I'll get you guys to react. He says, the map doesn't tell the story you think it does,
00:15:12.360 minister. We are under tariff threats because your government broke the border and the formerly
00:15:17.400 reliable Canadian, uh, offered in our military asylum, immigration, security, and foreign affairs.
00:15:22.840 The past four years, 90% of all terror, um, terrorists interacted, um, coming from, came from
00:15:29.800 Canada. Um, I'll just go on here. He, he writes that here's the data behind that picture minister,
00:15:35.640 Canada's total GDP export dependency on the U S is 77%. America's export
00:15:41.960 dependency on us is only 17%, right? So even though all these states have their largest trading
00:15:47.720 partner being Canada, um, when, when you look at the total economy, you're only talking about 17%,
00:15:53.720 um, whereas for us it's 77%. Like their economy is sometimes bigger. We are far, far more dependent
00:15:59.960 on them. Almost like eight, like four to 5% of our, like 90% of our economy is tied to trade with them.
00:16:07.320 Like a trade war is going to hurt us so much worse. Um, it like, what, what are the liberals doing?
00:16:14.840 And, and what, why is it that they always see the same, uh, they, they always want to use the same
00:16:19.160 solution to every problem. Well, they, I think one of the problems is if you change your strategy,
00:16:24.360 it's an admission of guilt and politics, which is a fundamental flaw in the organization just in
00:16:28.360 general. Um, I actually had the numbers a little lower. I thought it was only around 13%
00:16:33.320 of goods were from Canada and America. So like you said, we're going to feel this significantly more.
00:16:38.280 Um, you know, the issues we have when you talk about solutions, you know, sure we try to wrap
00:16:42.920 up the border issue, but we need to be leveraging our natural resources more. I mean, Liam and I
00:16:46.680 were talking about this yesterday. Um, we could ramp up oil and LNG production, uh, and, and exporting.
00:16:52.520 It's pretty significantly over the next few months. I know that wouldn't be a silver bullet solution,
00:16:56.440 but it's a step in the right direction. Um, we'd be able to ramp up oil and LNG at scale through
00:17:01.640 new pipelines in the next few years, you know, three to five, depending on all the regulatory
00:17:05.880 nonsense. Um, and then in terms of our, uh, just critical mineral minerals and stuff like that,
00:17:11.080 we can be moving on this in less than 12 months. These would make a big difference for us because
00:17:14.680 our exports would go through the roof by comparison to what they are now. And we could diversify. We know
00:17:19.240 we've got several countries in Europe that already want our natural gas. You know, we could be less
00:17:22.840 dependent on the United States. This is, this is, this is crucial. You know, there's, there's,
00:17:27.560 they talk about phases. There's two phases for Canada. One is working through this. Two is
00:17:32.040 diversifying our exports. Otherwise we're going to be in this exact same situation again. And it's
00:17:36.120 pretty nonsense that we're not already doing this look like Canada should be one of the most prosperous
00:17:39.800 nations in the entire world by like, but top three, I would suggest. Um, but we're not leveraging our
00:17:45.400 natural resources because it's all, we're, we're kind of operating under this, this green agenda guys
00:17:50.200 that in my opinion has got some palti science behind it and we're all suffering because of it.
00:17:53.800 Right. So, um, we've put ourselves in this situation and Trudeau has made it significantly
00:17:57.800 worse by refusing to do what's right for this country. Um, but with respect to the United
00:18:01.560 States, what I find interesting is Trump is now also talking about abolishing in, um, the,
00:18:06.760 I think it was income tax. He was talking about, he's talking about a bunch of stuff, but
00:18:09.720 he was looking at, um, a strategy used by McKinley in the, uh, 18, late 1800s, early 1900s.
00:18:15.960 McKinley was assassinated in 1901. He was a president that used tariffs to rebuild the American economy.
00:18:21.240 But here's the difference in 1900. Tariffs were not, uh, an economic, a form of economic warfare
00:18:28.680 because there was a lot more nationalism. There was a lot more domestic production. So you use
00:18:32.680 these tariffs and would support your own economy. People didn't really get too upset about it. Right.
00:18:36.760 But the problem you have now is, and probably for the last 50, 60 years, tariffs are economic
00:18:41.560 warfare. That's what they're used for. I mean, what did every country in the West do to China when
00:18:44.760 it came to EVs? We threw tariffs on them, sometimes a hundred percent. So the, the, the,
00:18:49.960 the understanding or just the perception of tariffs is not the same. So I understand that
00:18:54.680 Trump's going, Hey, we need to do more domestic production. We need to rebuild America, America
00:18:58.440 first. Okay. No problem with that. But he's using a weapon that was effective 130 years ago,
00:19:03.640 but it's seen very differently today. So when you're using a 25% tariff on Canada,
00:19:08.120 and then the other day, Columbia wouldn't let some of their, um, some immigrants from America
00:19:12.600 back in Columbia that were Colombians, he used the same thing. Well, I'm going to throw a 25%
00:19:16.360 tariff on you. So what that says to us is in terms of this being economic warfare,
00:19:20.440 you put us in the same boat as Columbia, that's not good for trade relations. So I think you're going
00:19:24.200 to have some pretty big issues. Um, and maybe some, some, you know, diplomatic problems that drag on
00:19:30.520 from, from Trump's, from Trump's move here. Like, I think he is going to like, to your point,
00:19:35.640 they are going to suffer. I'm not sure it's going to be from Canadian imports specifically. Um,
00:19:40.120 but I think more so maybe diplomatically from these moves, what they're doing to everybody around the
00:19:43.320 world. I mean, let's play the devil's advocate there because you have to look at it from Trump's
00:19:47.480 perspective, right? It's like, there are all of these criminals in their country and they don't
00:19:51.640 want them there. Right. I used to work in the Canadian department of immigration. I was a press
00:19:55.240 secretary under the Harper government. And one of the problems Canada has too, is it's very hard
00:19:59.640 to deport people who have destroyed their documentation. So if someone comes to Canada,
00:20:04.520 burns their passport or flushes it or destroys it, and then it's time to deport them, the country
00:20:09.000 that you're deporting them to has to actually issue a new passport. And if they, if they're not
00:20:11.960 inclined to, they'll just say no. And a country like Canada, you don't really have a lot of recourse,
00:20:15.800 right? You can say, okay, we're going to slap, like, like, you know, there's different ways that
00:20:19.320 you can try to get them to do what you want. Uh, we're going to slap a visa on your nationals.
00:20:24.120 So they have to get a visa now, or, or, you know, just do things that will annoy them. Uh, but when
00:20:27.880 you're in the United States of America and the global economy depends on you, you have a lot more
00:20:32.920 leverage and a lot more power. And, you know, you have Canada, the response being, uh, let's set
00:20:37.480 up a regulatory framework here and let's, let's create a new government program. Uh, whereas you
00:20:42.120 have Trump on the other hand, like tweet, like texting from a golf course, like in between holes
00:20:46.360 saying, take your people, or you're going to feel my wrath. And I respect that. Like, I think,
00:20:52.600 Hey, you know, you're, you've got to do what you got to do. The people are sick of feeling like no
00:20:58.200 one's looking out for them, that their best interests are not being held in, in top of
00:21:02.440 mind. Um, that the world is run by shadow elites and forces like the WEF. Um, and there you have
00:21:07.640 Trump saying, no, uh, if you don't take your people back, um, you're going to pay the price,
00:21:12.760 not just through tariffs, but also just, uh, canceling visas for the family members of the
00:21:17.000 regime. I thought it was hilarious. Um, like, I, I, I just think that these are real issues.
00:21:22.840 And I, I, I think, you know, the, the, this is the way you get stuff done.
00:21:28.760 I don't disagree with his move on Columbia, not even a little bit. I think that it's,
00:21:33.480 um, I think the difference is that he's put Canada in the same category and Canadians are
00:21:37.640 going to suffer at scale because of it, because of bad governance. So this is a direct issue with
00:21:42.200 Columbia. Yes. They're gonna, now they're accepting all their immigrants back, uh, their own
00:21:45.800 people rather than their nationals. Um, I'm totally on board with that. What is, what, what I find to be
00:21:50.680 the diplomatic issue or what I think is going to be the bigger problem is that he's put Canada in
00:21:54.680 the exact same category. And like I said, um, first, like Liam said, it's a two way problem.
00:22:00.360 You've got them doing the same thing to us with the open border situation. Uh, but the other thing is
00:22:05.480 Canadians are going to suffer at scale because of this, because it's such a big part of our economy.
00:22:09.480 So sure. He doesn't like what's happening and sure. He doesn't like probably the liberal
00:22:12.680 government or Trudeau. I mean, who does right now? Uh, I can agree with that, but this will affect
00:22:16.840 all Canadians and it could be for, you know, what is it? Five, six, seven months a year. Depends
00:22:20.680 how long he does this. So I do think that there is some diplomatic fallout and some hard feelings
00:22:24.920 that come from Canadians. So I'm not sure. Um, and again, back to my point earlier is we can't
00:22:29.480 solve this problem in three days. So it's coming. Yeah. I think I'll just add one thing and then I'll
00:22:33.400 get you to jump in on it too, Liam. Like for me, Canada, United States have a special relationship.
00:22:37.880 We're very similar countries. And the more we lean into that friendship and that relationship,
00:22:42.120 I think the better off we both are like, I would rather have a very secure North North American
00:22:47.320 perimeter where none of us let fentanyl in and none of us let terrorists in. And we have like
00:22:52.040 incredibly strict rules and then a more open laissez faire internal border where we allow free trade,
00:22:57.720 free movement of people. I think Kevin O'Leary has been touching on some great ideas and issues
00:23:01.720 about like using the same dollar and having kind of like an EU type passport where you can work and live
00:23:06.920 in either place, depending on where you like better. Um, but, but the idea is especially under
00:23:12.760 Trudeau, but this is something that's been happening in Canada for generations now. Um,
00:23:16.200 Canadians kind of have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to Americans that they think they're
00:23:19.240 superior and they like to define themselves in an anti-American way. At least the Canadian elites,
00:23:23.480 the Laurentian elites, you've seen Trudeau out many times saying, uh, you know, Canadian identity is
00:23:28.040 just not American. Um, and I don't think that helps. I don't think that Americans, first of all,
00:23:32.840 I don't think they're very clued in on the fact that a lot of Canadians don't like Americans very much.
00:23:36.760 Um, but I, I think we have an opportunity to like lean in on the special relationship,
00:23:40.440 create a new bilateral friendship. I had, uh, JJ McCullough, who's a popular YouTuber on, uh,
00:23:45.960 the show last week. And he, he said like, we need to ditch Mexico. Like, this is like cut Mexico out.
00:23:50.680 They can deal with their own issue. They have a unique problem with their border and their,
00:23:54.280 you know, flow, huge, huge flow of migrants coming up across the, the, the Southern border for the
00:23:59.160 States. Uh, Canada's issues are different. Let's, let's get back to like one-on-one relationship.
00:24:04.440 Um, what do you, what do you think about that, Liam?
00:24:06.840 I completely agree. Just the harsh reality is, is that with our current leadership, that's just
00:24:12.520 not a possibility. Like you said, a lot of the Laurentian elites just claim their,
00:24:17.720 the whole Canadian identity is anti-American. Actually Peterson just did a good post, uh,
00:24:23.560 good or sorry, a good article in the national post about that, about the Canadian elitism driving
00:24:30.360 Alberta, especially into the hands of, uh, Donald Trump and such. But this very much goes to the
00:24:36.760 broader ideology that is driving the liberal party. Uh, you know, you mentioned that they're,
00:24:42.840 they seemingly have one solution to everything, which is more socialism. And that's a hundred percent
00:24:49.400 true. Uh, if you look at the ideology that is driving these people, a lot of it has come out of the
00:24:55.080 Fabian socialist group. That's a lot of what's driving the world economic forum and such. And
00:25:00.520 one of the, the main, the main idea behind the Fabian society was to bring about socialism,
00:25:07.800 but not through revolutionary means, but through long, uh, long-term reform. And that's exactly what
00:25:13.560 you're seeing with the open border policies, because the socialists believe that, that it should be a
00:25:19.480 worldwide revolution. So bring down the borders and then we can bring socialism to all these states
00:25:24.600 that were, that's what you're seeing with a lot of even these climate change payments and stuff.
00:25:28.360 It's trying to redistribute wealth from, uh, rich countries into the poor countries.
00:25:33.880 Where I'm going with this is just, that's the ideology these people live within. That's the reality
00:25:38.760 that the Trudeau camp is in. So trying to get that group, which believes that there should be this
00:25:45.640 worldwide socialist revolution to now all of a sudden take a pro national stance when you've got,
00:25:53.320 you know, Trudeau in 2015, telling, uh, the New York times that Canada could be the first post
00:25:58.680 national estate again, a nation, sorry, supersede nations that Canada doesn't even exist as a nation
00:26:05.960 anymore. Um, to get him to all of a sudden be on pro team Canada. Like, I just don't see that
00:26:12.360 happening at all. And that's one of my biggest worries with this economic warfare and why they're
00:26:19.400 seemingly buckling down in welcoming it and just trying to avoid the real solution is because I
00:26:27.720 think this will grant them a lot like the emergency crisis to just continue on in power. And once the
00:26:34.440 prorogation ends, they can skirt more non-confidence votes by declaring a state of economic emergency.
00:26:40.760 And so that's, I don't know, it's a very cynical view, but until, until we get new leadership in
00:26:48.040 Canada, I really don't see any of those solutions being implemented.
00:26:51.720 Oh, I couldn't agree more. I think that for sure, the whole idea of the, you know,
00:26:55.480 the Globe and Mail story that we reported on, um, Ottawa planning pandemic level relief for workers and
00:27:01.320 businesses. If Trump imposes tariffs, we say like, this is like the liberal dream, right? It's like another
00:27:07.560 fake COVID emergency where we can just pay Canadians in the lead up to a federal election.
00:27:13.240 I've noticed that the liberals are actually polling upwards or trending upwards in the polls,
00:27:17.400 which is kind of terrifying, um, for people who've been paying attention. It's like, I saw the liberals
00:27:22.840 tank in the polls and that was justice because of how like horribly they've run our country for the
00:27:28.120 last decade. Uh, now they're floating this idea that, Hey, it doesn't matter if Trump, uh, issues
00:27:32.520 these tariffs, we're just going to pay you. We're just going to pay you, uh, just like we did during
00:27:36.040 COVID it's so cynical. And I, you know, I hope, I hope Canadians see through it. Hey guys, I want to
00:27:41.640 tie this to some reporting that I noticed, um, on your page about how Canada has become a playground
00:27:47.560 for criminals. So this goes to the idea that we don't really keep good track of who's coming,
00:27:52.360 going in our country. Maybe it's part of a deliberate plan by the liberal government to
00:27:56.760 like undermine our national unity and national security. But, um, I have this clip that I found through
00:28:01.160 you guys of India's foreign minister. Um, basically that saying that Canada's biggest, Canada is
00:28:08.440 India's biggest problem when it comes to seek separatism and terrorism. And basically that
00:28:13.320 Canada intentionally welcomes like the worst of the worst people. Um, and we don't, we don't monitor
00:28:17.960 it. So let's play that clip. Number of people with organized crime links from Punjab have been
00:28:24.440 made welcome in Canada. We have been telling Canada saying, look, these are wanted criminals from
00:28:31.080 India. You have given them visas. You let, they have come many of them in false documentation.
00:28:37.000 And yet you allow them to live there. If you decide to import for political purposes,
00:28:42.600 people with very dubious, actually very negative background, there will be issues. You know,
00:28:47.960 they have in some cases created problems in their own country as a result of their own policies.
00:28:54.520 So, I mean, that's, that's someone from India who gets it saying,
00:28:57.240 you know, you guys are letting in our worst people. Um, I, I think you could say the same
00:29:00.760 thing about so many countries. Like my husband's family is originally from Iran and there's always
00:29:05.240 stories in the Persian community in Toronto of like regime officials and people who carried out
00:29:09.480 massacres in Iran, like living nice lives in the suburbs, driving fancy cars. It's like,
00:29:14.440 how did they even get visas to come here? What are they doing in our country? I think you'd probably say
00:29:18.040 that about so many adversarial states. Uh, so guys, why don't you tell us a little bit
00:29:22.280 about your reporting and your thoughts on this issue? You want to take that? Sure. So I think,
00:29:29.160 yeah, it's terrible. It's not just necessarily organized crime from Punjab, but also from China
00:29:35.320 and the Mexican Sinaloa cartel, which we know is allied very well with the CPP or sorry, CCP. Um,
00:29:44.040 Sam Cooper has done excellent reporting on this, but the intertwining of organized crime within
00:29:51.080 Canada is extremely concerning. Uh, even Luke Sabrin points it out in our CBSA whistleblower as well,
00:29:58.200 that he, uh, he believes a large majority of the higher ups at the CBSA have been, uh, compromised by
00:30:07.480 organized crime. And a good example is even the head of, I can't remember his name. Uh, uh, but the head
00:30:17.960 of, it was the big circle boys, which is the narco group out of China. They're bigger than Pablo Escobar
00:30:24.440 ever was in terms of volume of drugs being moved and, uh, revenue. And he was operating out of Markham.
00:30:31.880 He was living in Markham for years and he ended up getting detained in Australia, but he was living
00:30:38.520 here. And, uh, and this is, this is intertwined too, with the, uh, the money laundering cases with
00:30:45.400 the TD bank. They got fined billions, uh, for essentially facilitating money laundering. A lot
00:30:51.800 of that money ends up getting pushed into politics as well. Uh, a crazy story that Sam Cooper reported on
00:31:00.920 was how, uh, um, Bill Blair essentially let a, uh, warrant for a criminal that was, uh, involved
00:31:11.080 with organized crime sit on his desk for over 50 days, delaying it because he was a liberal party
00:31:18.600 power broker, because these guys have like, again, when we're talking about billions of dollars of
00:31:23.880 fines and stuff, the, actually at one point it was estimated the Sinaloa cartel was making $3 million a
00:31:29.320 day in Canada. And so like, this is a major, there's a lot of money being tossed around here.
00:31:35.320 And these groups then weaponize these diaspora groups, whether it be the Sikhs, you know, pushing
00:31:41.480 the, uh, the Sikh community to vote a certain way. Uh, we've also seen it with the Chinese diaspora.
00:31:49.320 And so they funnel money through these communities it back into politics. And so the web is very deep when
00:31:56.680 it comes to organized crime in Canada. And, uh, yeah, I think this is a lot of what is causing the
00:32:03.160 alarm bells for Trump and his team in America. Well, it seems like this is exactly the problem
00:32:09.720 they're talking about. And it's like, why does it take an external force like the United States
00:32:13.320 president, uh, to point all this out and to bring it to urgency? Like, why isn't this top of mind for
00:32:18.680 the Trudeau government? I'll loop this in with the foreign interference report that was just tabled
00:32:23.480 yesterday. So as viewers know, we talked about a little bit on the show, but we can talk about it
00:32:27.160 a bit more. The, uh, foreign interference inquiry, um, called for the government to monitor more online
00:32:33.480 activities. So that's, that was what they basically, you know, after all of this, after two years of
00:32:37.960 feeding the Canadians, uh, stories about how there were supposedly traitors, um, and people willfully
00:32:44.600 and unwillfully acting, uh, in like in support of foreign adversarial regimes, uh, you know, the reports
00:32:51.880 finally tabled and that just found that there were no bad faith actors, um, concludes this report.
00:32:57.560 So this is from the, uh, True North, uh, reporting speaking at a press column, uh, conference following
00:33:03.320 the report's release, Hogue commissioner, who's the justice that authored this 900 page report,
00:33:09.160 um, said that while the outcomes of the two previous elections were not affected by foreign
00:33:13.880 interference, there is a possibility that some writings were affected in a small way during the
00:33:18.600 nomination contest. And of course, this links back to the idea that we're having a liberal leadership
00:33:22.200 race right now. Um, the liberal party is sort of notoriously fast and loose when it comes to the
00:33:27.720 rules around this kind of thing. You don't even have to pay or, or do like, like give your full name
00:33:32.520 and address to be a member. You just do it online. Um, so I'm going to just play you two clips. So the
00:33:37.080 first clip here is Canadian leaders, um, basically out and saying that parliamentarians are engaging in
00:33:44.680 foreign interference and acting at the will of foreign governments. Uh, let's play that clip.
00:33:50.440 I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and or candidates
00:34:00.520 in the conservative party of Canada who, uh, are engaged or at high risk of, or for whom there is clear
00:34:12.280 intelligence around foreign interference. MPs that are involved, wittingly or unwittingly,
00:34:17.480 are they traitors to Canada? Uh, what they're doing is unethical. Uh, it is in some cases against
00:34:24.120 the law and it is indeed, uh, they are indeed traitors to the country. Certain, uh, and I described it
00:34:31.480 initially as fewer than a handful of current members of parliament have allowed themselves. And again,
00:34:39.640 going back to the original comments from CSIS, semi-wittingly or wittingly allowed themselves
00:34:47.400 to become compromised. Okay. So that was what we heard before. And sorry to the viewers. I usually
00:34:54.920 give a trigger warning when I play Justin Trudeau because so many people will tell me, just don't
00:34:59.160 play him or tell me before so I can mute it because they just like, they can't stand the sound of his
00:35:03.400 voice, um, or, you know, the lies that he's been telling. So anyway, that, that was like the preview
00:35:08.440 of this report, right? So that these, these leftist politicians are saying, and this is something,
00:35:12.440 we've got something here. We've got the names of the parliamentarians. Um, and then this report
00:35:16.920 comes out and it doesn't really say that at all. In fact, it says the opposite. So here is a clip
00:35:21.560 of commissioner Hogue basically just saying nothing to see here, folks. Although a few situations
00:35:28.120 involving attempts to curry favor or develop problematic relationships with the parliamentarian have come
00:35:33.960 to light, such phenomena remain marginal and so far appear to have been ineffective. Some may have
00:35:44.200 benefited from the support of a foreign state, sometimes without knowing about it. But again,
00:35:52.360 thus far, this does not seem to have led to any real gains for the states involved.
00:35:57.320 Nor have I seen any evidence to suggest that there are currently so-called traitors in parliament.
00:36:08.680 So to me, this was all just kind of let down. We know this stuff is happening. We know to the points
00:36:13.800 that Liam was making a minute ago that there are all kinds of really bad people that have been let
00:36:18.280 into our country. Um, many of them making tremendous amounts of money, many of them involved with foreign
00:36:22.600 governments that wish us harm. Uh, we know they're here. We know that many of them do fund our
00:36:26.920 politics. Um, but when it came to this report that, you know, dove through, spent lots and lots of
00:36:31.480 money, lots and lots of time trying to find evidence, they basically just shrug their shoulder
00:36:34.840 and say, uh, not nothing here, folks. So, uh, Jonathan, what do you make of all this?
00:36:39.400 It's very frustrating. Um, first it's tough when you have a public inquiry that's mostly held in
00:36:43.880 private. That's a little confusing for the people of Canada. Um, and it's either the politicians are
00:36:49.080 lying or, or Hogue is Hogan. Her, her report is, is let's call it lying. Now there's, I will be,
00:36:54.840 I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, try to steal me at her argument. And, you know,
00:36:58.440 one of the things that came up when she was going through this, uh, inquiry is that they
00:37:02.360 kept a lot of information. Uh, they redacted a lot of information. Like they only give her like
00:37:06.840 20 or 30% of all of the files that were available. Now, if it stayed at that, and that's all she got,
00:37:12.760 um, I can sort of give her the benefit of the doubt, but I'm just trying to be charitable because the
00:37:16.920 reality is, um, if there was no foreign interference, then why would her recommendation be to have a
00:37:22.840 sweeping censorship body that's now controlled by the federal government? So if it's not a problem,
00:37:28.200 why do you now need a federal body that censors the internet to make sure that, but I thought it
00:37:33.240 wasn't an issue. So the two things sort of contradict each other. Um, I also found it to be frustrating
00:37:38.360 that, you know, you've got your intelligence agency that is saying, Hey, these things are happening.
00:37:43.400 Her first report that came up months ago is saying, Hey, yes, these things, some, like you said,
00:37:47.400 some writings are compromised. So if some are compromised, how can you say that the election wasn't
00:37:51.480 compromised? Now you come out with this, this report at the end of it all to say that, no,
00:37:55.560 the intelligence agencies were wrong. All those politicians we just watched on camera,
00:37:59.080 they were wrong. And the only thing we need to do is censor more Canadians. It's just, it's just
00:38:03.320 a hundred percent BS. Like, you know, uh, Liam actually mentioned something to me the other day
00:38:06.840 when we were having this conversation. Hogue used to work at a law firm in Quebec that, um, that was either
00:38:13.400 owned or operated with Jean Chrétien and Pierre Trudeau. So she's bought and paid for. That's how I feel about this.
00:38:19.240 Well, I mean, I mean, it's, it's, it's really something. And again, you know, we were talking
00:38:22.600 about how, uh, the liberals always want to implement like a national program to pay people. Uh, it's
00:38:26.840 just like another way of having socialism. It's also like, they always are looking for opportunities,
00:38:31.640 um, to crack down on so-called misinformation, disinformation, anything that goes against the
00:38:36.040 regime's narrative. Um, we saw it's, it's like everything from the COVID playbook is coming back
00:38:41.480 and being used again. Like, yeah, I don't understand how censoring the internet and cracking down on
00:38:46.680 dissident voices is really the same thing as all of these criminals acting in Canada and their
00:38:52.520 involvement in political campaigns. We know this because the foreigners themselves are much more
00:38:57.080 open often, um, in talking about this. Liam, do you have any, any thoughts on all this?
00:39:01.800 Yeah. Well, when it comes to the foreign interference, I have no idea how you can say
00:39:06.120 that there isn't MPs working with foreign nations. So for instance, one of the most egregious
00:39:11.640 examples is Han Dong, right? He was the center of a scandal that was accusing the CCP of bussing
00:39:19.400 foreign Chinese students into his riding to vote for him in the, uh, in the election. And then,
00:39:26.200 so that's one case actually. So, and then with him as well, he was also advising China to hold on to
00:39:31.880 Canadian hostages, uh, or people that were arrested in China that were being used as political leverage,
00:39:37.400 essentially, uh, to benefit the liberal party. So you've got those two accusations being held
00:39:43.800 against him. He's still sitting as an MP, which is wild that, you know, he stepped down from the
00:39:48.840 liberal party and said, well, I don't want to tarnish the liberal party's reputation.
00:39:56.760 Um, and then you've also got say guys like, uh, Stephen Gubot. He sits as the executive vice
00:40:03.480 chairperson of a organization called the CCICED. So it's the, the China council for international
00:40:12.200 cooperation on environment and development. And so it says the first sentence on their, uh, website is
00:40:19.560 we have been a platform for cooperation and policy development between Chinese and international
00:40:25.320 researchers. So this is an organization. It's a, it's a United front, uh, organization, which China
00:40:31.960 uses to manipulate foreign nations. But even I gave up when I counted 21 Chinese communist party
00:40:38.760 members sitting on the board of this organization. And then there's just Stephen Gubot in amongst all
00:40:44.840 of these CCP members in the whole, uh, idea behind this organization is to collaborate on policy, right?
00:40:52.680 So of course he's bringing in policy from this organization, which is again, China council. Um,
00:41:00.120 and then another egregious example is Sam Cooper uncovered. This one as well is that, uh, David
00:41:06.920 Eby gave $20,000 grant. He's the premier of British Columbia for those who don't know.
00:41:16.840 To another United front tied organization, uh, which then, which came in the, uh, with the bow wrapped of
00:41:25.000 DEI and, uh, you know, trying to bring forward, uh, multiculturalism and stuff, but it ended up
00:41:31.960 essentially being, uh, a bribe because I mean, that's, that's a strong word to, to toss it up.
00:41:37.880 But the way I look at it is a bribe because immediately after that Ding Wow, who was the, uh,
00:41:44.360 one of the heads of that organization starts being very favoritism towards, uh, uh, David Eby in the
00:41:53.000 diaspora media within that, within the, uh, BC area. So like, okay, we give this, these comp,
00:42:00.040 these organizations grants, and then these organizations turn around and start trying
00:42:03.800 to mobilize diaspora communities to favor a certain party. It's like, you're telling me
00:42:08.440 there's no foreign influence here at all. Like even, and that's just three examples, but I think
00:42:13.960 it goes, I think it goes pretty deep and you know, there's, there's countless people that have been
00:42:18.520 named on that front. I mean, I'm sorry, what an absolute mess. Like the more details that you
00:42:23.640 hear about these stories, the more you just think like, how can Canada's democracy even survive when
00:42:28.280 you have this many foreign actors meddling in different areas and you have like a polite elite
00:42:33.000 that are too like cautious or too concerned to even point it out or be real about it. Um, that makes
00:42:40.040 me like a lot more cynical, uh, Liam, uh, I'll blame you for that. I, I did see something that I liked,
00:42:45.720 um, out of Quebec. Um, I, I don't usually point out Quebec, uh, politicians and say like,
00:42:51.240 we need more of this, but, uh, in this case we do. I think when it comes to immigration and
00:42:55.640 particularly protecting cultural heritage, it's just something that the French get better. They
00:43:00.520 get the Quebecers understand, I think more, or they're more willing to talk about it than, uh,
00:43:04.840 the rest of us in, uh, English Canada. Uh, but Quebec, uh, the government over there tabled a social
00:43:10.680 contract bill for immigrants amidst cuts to integration programs. Uh, so on Tuesday, Quebec's
00:43:17.640 minister of immigration and French language, Jean-Francois Roberge told reporters that immigrants
00:43:24.120 must accept Quebec's values and they must contribute to society. You don't hear Canadian
00:43:29.960 politicians talking like this very often. I'm going to play this clip, uh, because like I said,
00:43:34.040 I think it's fantastic. Let's play that clip. With our plan, with our bill, we will be pretty clear.
00:43:43.080 We are a nation. We have a culture. We have some, uh, democratic values. Uh, men and women are equal
00:43:53.240 and, uh, people coming here must accept that. And after we want them to contribute to the society.
00:44:01.880 So this is complete, completely new. And this is really different from, uh, what, what's the Canada
00:44:09.240 is saying. Like, like when he says it, you're like, yeah, obviously like, like, why is that even,
00:44:15.080 why is that even something that a politician has to go out and say, but then you think about it and
00:44:17.800 you're like, I don't hear anyone else talking like that. I don't hear anyone like this. Something
00:44:21.640 so basic that when you come to Canada, you have to respect our, our values, our rules, basic things like
00:44:27.480 men and women are equal. I think he's talking specifically, uh, to some presumably in like
00:44:31.880 Islamist communities that believe in the subordination of women, uh, want women to
00:44:36.040 cover their heads and faces. Um, basically just saying, no, come to Canada, contribute,
00:44:40.760 get a job, contribute, um, and learn to be Canadian. Uh, Carl Valle, who's a conservative
00:44:46.200 operative out in Quebec. He, he, he writes on Axie says, we simply want to conserve and protect our
00:44:51.800 language, our culture, and our values. We will never apologize for our history. We will celebrate
00:44:56.600 it in a way that is the essence of conservatism. I completely agree. I'd like to just see a lot more
00:45:03.000 of that. I know, uh, back in 2019, during the conservative leadership race, uh, Kelly Leach was
00:45:07.720 making these points and the media and the press treated her like a total pariah, like that she was
00:45:12.040 just like a total racist. Um, but really what she was just saying was so basic. Like if you come to
00:45:17.320 Canada, you have to embrace our values. Canada needs to do a lot more on this front. Uh, what
00:45:22.600 do you think, Jonathan? Yeah. I mean, I think what's happening is the Overton windows sort of
00:45:26.920 shifting, right? So in America, because their politics are polarized. So if you go for the
00:45:32.920 left, I go for the right. What that creates is a very wide Overton window. Pretty much everything's
00:45:36.840 up for discussion, right? Um, in Canada, however, our politics are magnetized. Sorry, I'm reverse.
00:45:41.800 So like if a party moves left, um, the party in power is the one that always moves the needle. So if
00:45:46.440 the liberals are moving left, the NDP has to move further left, uh, and basically become
00:45:50.760 socialist. They're pretty much self-proclaimed socialists these days. Um, but it also shifts
00:45:54.360 conservatives into the center, which is a lot of what we're seeing today. Conservatives
00:45:57.640 in a lot of ways are very much liberals of the nineties. But what that does is it keeps a more
00:46:01.560 narrow Overton window. So an Overton window is pretty much acceptable political speech within society,
00:46:06.760 you know, issues that we will debate. Um, so in Canada, because it's more narrow because you can
00:46:12.360 shift voters from one side to the other much easier than you do in the United States.
00:46:15.720 So this is why it's a little tighter, but what's happened right now. Um, and why this didn't work
00:46:19.800 out for the politician in the previous election in Canada is because it was, it was basically
00:46:23.640 unacceptable. It was like a lot of things that, um, you're hearing from like the PVC party in,
00:46:28.280 um, in Canada, you know, anything he was saying was, um, sorry, his name has just slipped my mind.
00:46:33.160 Maxine Bernier. Yeah. So anything he was saying was seen as, as extremist almost just because it was a
00:46:39.960 little too far outside the Overton window where people like us would probably agree with a number of
00:46:43.480 those things, uh, but it was not really acceptable within society. So what's happened now. And I
00:46:48.200 pretty much have to give Trump credit for this is that he has opened the Overton window in the West
00:46:53.640 to push back against a lot of the immigration and a lot of the, you know, for lack of a better term,
00:46:58.680 lack of assimilation within your community, people are not, people are not becoming a part of Canada
00:47:02.280 anymore. In fact, they're coming over at such high volume in these droves where they just implement
00:47:06.440 their own culture. And you know, the problem you have with that multi-ethnicity is not a problem.
00:47:11.240 Multiculturalism though, can be. And the reason is because if you don't give people a time to sort
00:47:15.560 of assimilate into your community, what happens is you, you have one ship, it's Canada, but now you've
00:47:20.200 got five different cultures here that are all trying to steer it in a different direction. So
00:47:24.200 inevitably what happens, you're going to have conflict. That is the only way that this plays out. So
00:47:28.520 to have society be in harmony, you need calm. You need a common cultural set of values. It doesn't matter where
00:47:35.560 they come from, but they have to sort of see things the same way. So this isn't necessary for
00:47:39.240 harmony within society. And because of Trump, I think now our Overton window has opened a little
00:47:43.960 wider. So now people are starting to jump onto these ideas. There's even a liberal, I think Ruby
00:47:49.240 Dallas, her name, I got that correct. She's running for, she's running to take the liberal leadership
00:47:55.240 position right now. And she even said, Hey, all legal immigrants, I'm kicking them out of Canada.
00:47:59.880 That's a bold claim. And it's not going to get done, but this is coming from the liberal party.
00:48:03.640 So it shows you that, yes, this is not only opening for conservatives, this is opening,
00:48:07.160 this is becoming wide open for all political parties. So I think it's, I think it's a net
00:48:10.600 positive and I think it's necessary to have a safe and harmonious society.
00:48:14.840 I just want to hop in there as well on the, on the multicultural front,
00:48:19.880 Pierre Trudeau in 1971 was the, made Canada the first country in the world to implement a multicultural
00:48:27.640 policy. And what that changed within government at that time was it, it swapped their entire mindset
00:48:35.160 from, okay, when we take in immigrants, we want to assimilate them to Canadian culture.
00:48:41.400 After that multicultural policy change, the mindset within government became,
00:48:47.960 when we take in immigrants, we now need to make Canadians respect their culture. And so it was a
00:48:53.640 complete 180 on that front. And again, this, this kind of goes to that whole idea of just building
00:49:00.200 a nation without an identity. And I think that's where we're getting to in Canada, especially with
00:49:06.600 now Trump talking about the 51st state and this kind of stuff is Canada needs to define its identity.
00:49:13.320 This is like a non-negotiable at this point. Um, even to like, I think we need a complete
00:49:19.480 constitutional overhaul as well, because you look at, at our constitution and right at the beginning
00:49:25.240 of it, it says that Canada is part of the British empire. Well, what British empire there is like,
00:49:30.440 that empire doesn't exist anymore. Um, to your point, you said that it was okay. We need to bring
00:49:35.400 them into British or, uh, French values. That is largely what drove Canadian identity, but like,
00:49:41.640 that's not a thing anymore. That was 200, like 140, 150 years ago, but it's not today. And so
00:49:50.840 I think that's why you see more and more people getting on board with the idea of becoming America's
00:49:57.000 51st state is like, there was a recent poll that was, uh, by Ipsos, which was 43% of people aged 18 to
00:50:05.080 35 in Canada would accept American citizenship if it was offered to them. And I think that largely
00:50:13.640 comes from the fact that our culture for the last couple of decades, hasn't been setting a positive
00:50:21.560 aim for Canadians and saying, this is what it means to be Canadian. This is what, this is the part of
00:50:26.040 the group that you can be. It's actually just been trying to destroy that heritage and that identity
00:50:31.720 for the last couple of decades. And so now they look to somewhere like America and go,
00:50:36.280 Hey, I know what it means to be American. Like I could become an American and I would like to be an
00:50:41.800 American. Whereas, yeah, they look at Canada and they go, I don't know what it means to be Canadian.
00:50:47.080 Well, there's a certain level of irony to hear the same elites who stood by and did nothing,
00:50:52.200 or in some cases cheered on while they demolished statues of Sir John A. Macdonald,
00:50:58.200 while they, you know, burnt churches to the ground. We're still seeing stories.
00:51:03.240 True North was reporting this week of Egerton, Ryerson and John A. Macdonald statues being
00:51:10.200 renamed, school districts being renamed. Like they allowed for the total destruction of Canadian
00:51:15.720 history. They call this genocidal. They basically just said being Canadian, early Canadians were evil.
00:51:22.120 And look, I don't think that there's anything wrong with an old constitution. I think that our values
00:51:26.360 are eternal and that we inherited our freedoms from our political ancestors in Europe, in England,
00:51:34.280 on the day back to the Magna Carta. I think that there's a very strong argument that we need to
00:51:38.760 highlight that history even more and teach it and promote it. One thing that the Americans have is
00:51:42.600 they're not afraid. They're not ashamed of their history. Maybe some are on the woke left, but those
00:51:46.040 people have been marginalized in silence because the broad perspective in America is that we like being
00:51:51.560 American. We're excited about it. We think we're pretty good and we do something pretty well
00:51:55.400 in the world. Canadians haven't had that attitude and they've been all on board with
00:51:59.720 the tearing down of our institutions and our culture and shaming Canadians for what? Just being
00:52:04.680 here, calling us settlers or whatever. And now all of a sudden they want us to stand up to the
00:52:10.280 Americans and say, no, we have our own unique culture and our own unique heritage. Just like,
00:52:14.600 well, where were you guys over the last five years? Well, that was all being torn down. I find
00:52:22.040 ironic. It's the same kind of thing as like Doug Ford. There's an election happening in Ontario
00:52:25.880 and he's got this Canada is not for sale hat on. We just spent half the show talking about all the
00:52:30.760 various ways that our officials are corrupted by foreign forces meddling here. And in some cases,
00:52:37.400 it very much is for sale and has been. So there's just a lot of hypocrisy. I want to go back though to
00:52:42.680 something you said, Jonathan, which is that the Overton window is shifting. We have some evidence of
00:52:46.760 this in the liberal leadership race. It is great to see you have the front runners, both promising
00:52:52.360 in some way or another to move away from the carbon tax. Both Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland have
00:52:56.760 hinted that that's gone. So I think we can all agree that it's been a failed policy and hopefully we're
00:53:00.680 going to move away from this whole green shift and green new deal and start focusing on our natural
00:53:05.240 resources. Obviously the environment is incredibly important, but it's not like we have to kill our own
00:53:10.840 industries to protect our environment. Chrystia Freeland was out there yesterday announcing that if she
00:53:16.040 becomes prime minister, she's going to cut a cabinet in half. So you even have liberals promising to cut
00:53:20.920 the size of government to not have such a ridiculously large cabinet like Justin Trudeau has.
00:53:26.120 And then Jonathan, you mentioned Ruby Dalla, who's really embracing the anti-immigration message.
00:53:31.960 And you know, she's from Brampton, which I think is the most ethnically diverse riding in Canada. It's
00:53:37.400 actually not very ethnically diverse. It's kind of a monoculture, just not white Canadians. It's mostly
00:53:42.040 people from India, although there's other people there as well. I think it's the smallest percentage
00:53:46.760 of white people in a riding. So her constituents, I mean, she's hearing this and she's the one that's
00:53:51.720 coming out strongly saying deport the illegals, sounding a lot like Trump, which led our friend
00:53:57.240 Joe Warmington, the Toronto Sun to write an article calling her Canada's female Donald Trump ready to take
00:54:04.280 on the president. Former MP Ruby Dalla has distance herself from her federal fellow liberal leadership
00:54:10.280 candidates by looking to negotiate with President Trump. Instead of the punitive counter tariffs,
00:54:15.000 she's vowed to take a similar tough stand on illegal immigration. So Dalla herself liked that article
00:54:21.240 because she posted it on X, sharing it, tagging Donald Trump saying, let's make a deal.
00:54:27.640 Canada's Donald Trump ready to take on the president. There it is.
00:54:30.520 I'm here for it. I don't know. I'm not going to vote in the liberal leadership race. And I don't
00:54:35.800 really like Ruby Dalla that much. But I like the idea that there might be an all party consensus now
00:54:41.400 that we want to deport the bad guys. We want to focus on promoting a strong economy in Canada,
00:54:47.400 getting rid of the carbon tax. And maybe there can be some serious generational change in Canada.
00:54:53.640 What do you think, Jonathan?
00:54:54.600 Yeah, I mean, I think that's the direction we're going, regardless of who comes,
00:54:58.920 whether it's kicking or screaming or like Pierre Polyev is kind of leading the charge, right?
00:55:02.600 I think what you're seeing with the liberal leaders is a lot of them are trying to distance
00:55:05.240 themselves from Trudeau's policies. None more than Christia Freeland, who was kind of the right
00:55:10.920 hand woman for a long time. So for me, the issue I have is I like when a politician changes their
00:55:15.560 mind. People don't. People often say, oh, you flip flop. But no, no, look, if you get new information
00:55:20.040 and you change your mind, this tells me that you're rational and open. I like this. This is very positive.
00:55:25.400 However, in her case, she gaslit Canadians for five years and is directly responsible for a lot
00:55:31.640 of the problems we have. So even if she doesn't see the policies the same way today, I can't trust
00:55:36.040 her because of what she's done to this country. But in kind of shifting back towards the liberal
00:55:40.520 party, I think a lot of them are, like I said, trying to get themselves as much distance as
00:55:44.920 possible away from Trudeau and these policies. However, it's my opinion that a lot of it is
00:55:50.600 politicking. I'm not sure a lot of these things are really going to come to fruition because of how our
00:55:54.200 political system works under liberal rule. There's still a lot of people within these
00:55:58.200 organizations that I think would actually fight it. I'm of the mind the liberal party needs to
00:56:03.880 step back, rebuild, regroup, and they need some fresh blood. I like what Ruby Dallas heads at.
00:56:08.680 She's one of those people, the first one I've seen that I'm like, hey,
00:56:11.720 she could actually be a part of the new long-term liberal strategy. But I think they need to get rid
00:56:15.880 of a lot of the old stuffy Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney types that are going to play this old
00:56:21.480 sort of institutional democracy game. It's like you said, very strong socialism pull towards
00:56:26.040 everything. Like right now, they're trying to win an election or they're trying to, they're trying to
00:56:29.560 right now within the party, they're trying to win seats. But eventually, you know, by October,
00:56:33.000 providing they don't pull some sort of emergency measure, they're going to be trying to win an
00:56:36.120 election. So they're trying to rebuild brand equity right now. And to me, it's fooling once,
00:56:41.000 you know, I don't trust the liberal party to do all the things that Canada needs right now.
00:56:45.160 It could, there's so many other issues you see, whether it's the DEI stuff, the kids,
00:56:48.360 the stuff they're doing with kids and some of the gender stuff and the economics in this country are
00:56:52.440 a total disaster relationship with the US, you kind of name it, they've managed to mess it up.
00:56:56.680 So I like that they are shifting their direction and shifting their thoughts on a lot of these
00:57:02.360 policies. But I don't think that they've earned our trust yet. So I do think they need to take a step
00:57:08.440 back and rebuild first. Yeah, I wouldn't trust the liberals as far as I could throw them. I don't
00:57:13.160 think that the liberal party is going to head in the direction that you and I want them to though,
00:57:16.360 Jonathan, I think that they're going to double down with their elite WEF institutionalists like
00:57:20.840 Mark Carney, who I think will become the next prime minister. Last word over to you, Liam.
00:57:25.560 Well, I just want to go, I just want to highlight that when both Carney and Freeland talked about
00:57:32.520 moving away from the carbon tax, they were very specific about the consumer carbon tax. And so what
00:57:39.000 that leads me to believe is they would just try to rebrand the carbon tax and essentially change the
00:57:45.480 system that, okay, if we've been, say, equally punitive on the consumer front and the corporate
00:57:52.120 front, we're just going to take the consumer cost and just apply it to the corporate front. And as we
00:57:58.680 all know, market dynamics, like if you incur more costs to the corporation, they're just going to raise
00:58:03.640 the price. So either way, it's going to end up on the consumer's lap. And I think it's worth noting that
00:58:09.560 Mark Carney was just named in a US committee report six times as being one of the architects of a,
00:58:19.400 this, this comes from his position with the UN as a finance reformer, a climate finance reformer.
00:58:25.560 Their whole idea was, is to leverage the institutional investors in the banking world finance,
00:58:32.920 whether it be BlackRock, central banks, Vanguard, State Street, all of these to use finance to pressure
00:58:40.760 corporations into limiting supply in order to, because what that does is it drives up the price.
00:58:48.360 People can't afford to consume as much in their idea was, well, if people are consuming less because
00:58:53.320 they can't afford it, that means less carbon emissions. And they called this whole scheme,
00:58:58.040 demand management, which is price fixing, it's global monopolization of price fixing. And they
00:59:04.200 were using the funds that were in the Glasgow finance, financial alliance, which Mark Carney helped
00:59:12.760 build was $130 trillion. That's more than the global annual GDP that these people have finance,
00:59:21.560 like that they can wield financially to weaponize against people that don't follow their agenda.
00:59:26.840 And so Mark Carney was the architect of all of this. I don't believe for a second that a guy that
00:59:32.360 was willing to manipulate financial markets to that degree, to international price fix in order to
00:59:38.440 drive down consumption of food, clothing, and also like say flights and such, is all of a sudden going
00:59:46.360 to change his mind on the carbon tax. Like he's, he's just going to find a way to rebrand it and push it
00:59:53.640 further. Yeah. And I think Canadians are just done with this. We're done with these elites from
00:59:58.200 these institutions, from these purchase of power, you know, telling us to shut down our own industry
01:00:03.480 to be poor while they, you know, jet set around the world and go to these global conferences. Guys,
01:00:08.520 we've got to leave it there. It's been so great to have you on the show. Really appreciate your time
01:00:12.120 and insight. Everyone go check them out at Blender News. We've got great videos. It's Liam DeBoer
01:00:16.520 and Jonathan Harvey. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks. All right, everyone. Thank you so much.
01:00:22.120 That's all the news for today. We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news analysis. I'm
01:00:25.480 Candace Malcolm. This is The Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.