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Danielle Smith on unity, sovereignty, and the rights of the unvaccinated
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Coming up, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and I discuss the sovereignty act, standing up for the unvaccinated, reforming health care, and lots more. The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now on the True North Network.
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This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
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Coming up, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and I discuss the Sovereignty Act,
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standing up for the unvaccinated, reforming health care, and lots more.
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Hello and welcome. This is Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show,
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but we had an episode that we wanted to share with you immediately
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much of the show is dominated by the Public Order Emergency Commission,
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which has not just been under the national microscope in the last couple of weeks,
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where Premier Danielle Smith has hit the ground running
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after winning the UCP leadership race and being sworn in as Premier.
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She's had a lot of interest from around the world
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in her comments on the Alberta Sovereignty Act,
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and also her comments standing up for the rights of the unvaccinated,
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which I think was unprecedented by a Canadian leader.
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I'm deeply sorry for anyone who was inappropriately subjected
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to discrimination as a result of their vaccine status.
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I'm deeply sorry for any government employee that was fired from their job
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and I welcome them back if they want to come back.
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All of this has put, I think, a very sharp focus on what's happening in Alberta,
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a province that is going to the polls again in May of next year,
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so a pretty short runway for Premier Smith once she gets a seat in the legislature,
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assuming she wins her by-election in Medicine Hat in a few weeks' time.
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that covering Danielle Smith is a bit of a different situation for me
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than a lot of the other politicians that I've covered and reported on
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and while I'm not partisan and was not a supporter of her campaign,
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I have known her and have a very good rapport with her.
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Now, I still think that I can rise to the challenge of asking the tough questions,
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but I want you to be aware of the context before anyone pulls it up as some sort of gotcha
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when I've always been quite candid with the fact that I've known Danielle Smith,
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but at the same time, she's a professional in her role,
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I'm a professional in my role, and we move from that point.
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So with that out of the way, it's my great privilege to welcome to her first interview
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on True North since becoming Alberta's Premier, Premier Danielle Smith.
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Thanks for coming on today, and congratulations.
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Remember when you used to sub in for me on Chorus Entertainment?
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I wonder if there's any opportunity for you to sub in for me on this role.
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Yeah, I don't know if you're on vacation if I automatically become Acting Premier now.
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I'd have to check the Constitution on that one.
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I'll check with my staff and see what the protocol list looks like.
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If called upon, I will serve, I believe, is the old line.
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This has been a very, very accelerated timeline.
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Obviously, you win the leadership, you're the Premier, you have a new Cabinet assembled,
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you're in the process right now of getting a seat in the Legislature,
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you're only going to have a pretty short runway before next year's election.
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So explain to me what the priorities are and how much can you actually get done in that time
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Well, we will have a fall session, so that's going to be important.
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And I want to make sure that we make meaningful progress on the things that I campaigned on.
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So you will see a Sovereignty Act come forward.
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You will see a change to the Human Rights Code come forward as well.
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But the main thing that we'll be focusing on starting pretty soon here
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We in Alberta took a bit of a different path to some of the other provinces.
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Some of the other provinces have regional boards.
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We moved to a single health super board, and it's underperforming.
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I think we saw that during COVID, and they seem to be incapable of being able to address
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And it's not really fair to ask an appointed board of directors to do that major restructuring.
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And so we're going to be working on addressing some key issues in health care,
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to make sure that we have an effective ambulance service.
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To make sure we've got an effective system once people arrive in emergency,
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to get admitted to hospital if they need to be admitted,
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or to get treated if they need to be treated and sent on their way.
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And then we also have to make sure that we're using all of our facilities.
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to do enhanced surgical initiatives to start clearing the infrastructure or the surgical backlog.
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So those are the things that we'll be working on immediately
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and hoping to make some meaningful progress for patient care before the end of the year.
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one of the key hallmarks of your campaign insofar as health policy is concerned,
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and something you and I have spoken about in the past,
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Is this something that you would expect to move on before the election,
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or is this part of something you would put to voters next spring?
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I want to move on it before the next election again.
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I have a different process because I recognize that there's a difference
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between the things that you campaign on and then also getting caucus buy-in.
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And I don't want to be the kind of leader that dictates policy.
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I want to make sure that our caucus is comfortable with the decisions that I make.
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And to do that, you have to make sure that you've got a pretty inclusive process.
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We have regular caucus meetings, and we're starting a new process
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so that when we bring ideas forward, the MLAs are not caught by surprise for it
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because the first time they see it is in the legislature.
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They're going to be involved in the development of that.
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I feel like I've got some pretty good buy-in from caucus,
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but we're going to have to go through a process
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to make sure that we can get it into the budget.
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So it wouldn't be an immediate decision we could make in the fall
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because there are quite significant budget implications to it.
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It's something that I'd be looking to do when we release our budget in the spring.
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I know that the Sovereignty Act was something that you became a bit of a punching bag over
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from the media and also your opponents in the leadership race.
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And I don't want to rehash that because I think you have defended it very clearly.
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But I'll ask you about how you'll manage that from a caucus perspective
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because you now have people in your cabinet that raise very serious concerns
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Will there be a free vote from your caucus and from your cabinet
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on the Sovereignty Act when you put that forward?
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Well, here's the approach that I've taken so far
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I think maybe some of the miscommunication happened
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around the idea that it came forward from a policy think tank
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who had one conception of how it could be implemented.
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I have to make sure that I pass legislation and craft legislation
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that can get caucus support that is constitutional.
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was to assert all of our areas of jurisdiction in the Constitution.
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And we had a really good, robust discussion at caucus about this
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to pass legislation in our core areas of jurisdiction.
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I think perhaps what I'm doing is helping people
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We were never supposed to be a subordinate level of government
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We've acted that way and we're going to stop acting that way.
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So I think once people understand that really what this is about
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is going back to the original intention of our founders
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when they crafted those sections of the Constitution
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and as a signatory to the Charter of Rights and Credence,
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ensuring that we defend the rights of our citizens.
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to how our country has operated in the last number of years
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I take from that that you're working on smoothing
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over the opposition that might exist within your caucus.
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is it going to be a whipped vote or a free vote?
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I think that in the Westminster parliamentary tradition,
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we know that cabinet has a higher standard of need
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And so I talked it over with all of my cabinet members
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so that they knew that a sovereignty act was coming forward.
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I have no doubt that I'm going to get the support of my cabinet.
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And if there are still some lingering concerns within our caucus,
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But ultimately, all of the legislation that we have
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will allow for somebody who has a severe objection
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And so we will be working very hard over the coming weeks
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to make sure that we can address all of those concerns.
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And I would hope that everybody will come on board
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the people that we've seen in cabinet in the past still are there.
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almost all of your leadership opponents in cabinet as well.
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You were, I think, very sincere when you made an apology
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on behalf of the Alberta government, as I took it,
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The lockdowns and vaccine passports came in place
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under Tyler Shandro, the health minister at the time,
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and the positions that these people are in now?
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Well, it goes back to the previous conversation
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that we had, that when you're a part of a government,
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And I think that Minister Madhu has very openly,
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to arrest pastors and how he supports religious freedom.
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And I think you may recall that there was a change
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as soon as the restriction exemption program came in.
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but I think that that gives you some indication
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on certain key areas about how that was rolled out.
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especially after the freedom convoy took place,
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in pushing ahead to truly treating COVID as endemic.
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protecting our most vulnerable in a different way,
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We know it's dangerous to certain members of our society,
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If we've got a problem managing search capacity
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And so I think that everybody is of the same mind on that.
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in my opinion, from our public health officials.
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and also some major reforms in how they operate.
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we were asked that question along the campaign trail,
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and every leadership candidate said the same thing.
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So I think that there has definitely been a shift
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to treat this particular disease and virus as endemic.
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Have you heard from anyone in any other provinces,
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that are interested in taking things that you've done,
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which sadly was happening at the same time as ours.
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is that everybody is very much talking about ways
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how we can take more autonomy and more authority
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Number one will probably be around issues of immigration
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and making sure that each of us have the ability
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on fighting back against the federal government
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to see if we can partner with our First Nations
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in having Premier Stephenson host us in Churchill