Danielle Smith puts immigration back in Alberta’s hands
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In this episode, I'm joined by Michelle Ferreri, former Conservative MP for Peterborough and political commentator, to discuss Alberta's new premier, Danielle Smith, and her plans to hold a referendum on immigration in the province.
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Joining me now is Michelle Ferreri, former Conservative MP for Peterborough and political
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commentator. Always great having Michelle on the show. Welcome.
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Let's talk a little bit about Danielle Smith. I imagine you're probably a big fan of hers.
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She has introduced plans to hold a referendum. In other words, to give Albertans an opportunity
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to decide the future of what immigration is going to look like in the province. I think
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Yeah, you're right. I am a big fan because she's a leader. I think Danielle Smith approaches
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hard issues with thought and with leadership. She's not afraid. And I think if we are going
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to stay neutral, nothing happens. There's a very real threat of Alberta separation. And
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a good leader listens to their constituents, a good leader listens to their citizens. And
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so she's obviously taken those threats very seriously. She's come up with a plan. And now
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she's saying, we're going to do everything we can to ensure we're listening to you so that
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we can then take action. I think what you've seen, you know, bad leadership creates chaos
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and anxiety. And the fact that you have this Alberta separatist threat, as serious as it
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is, is a direct reflection of poor federal leadership, right? Like you've never seen
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separatist threats at the rate that we have, uh, until Mark Carney and Justin Trudeau were
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in power. Like this never happened at this magnitude before because they're not, it's
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not a unified country. So I think Danielle Smith is doing exactly what she needs to do to protect
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Albertans and to listen to them and to do the things that need to be done.
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I always thought of immigration being a federal jurisdiction and that the provinces are kind
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of stuck with whatever the feds wanted to do. Unless, of course, you're Quebec, which
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seems to have powers that the rest of the provinces do not. I mean, how is she able to pull this
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Well, I think that the prime minister, Mark Carney, and before him, Justin Trudeau put the provinces
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into a corner and they've had no choice but to do what they need to do to protect their
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province. Like, I mean, this is why you seen Doug Ford and Danielle Smith have to go deal
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with the tariff threats because we had no, uh, federal leadership. And so now she's saying
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you let way too many people in without having any resources in place to employ, house, uh,
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healthcare for these people. You've left us high and dry and it, it was insane immigration
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policies. And now I'm going to take the bull by the horns and do what I need to do to protect
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Albertans because they've had enough and it's leadership.
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Yeah. I mean, Albertans will get a chance to vote on seizing control of their own borders,
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prioritizing economic migrants and restricting social programs to citizens and permanent residents.
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I mean, these sound like common sense measures. I mean, we should all have the right to do that.
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I mean, don't we want the best possible people we can get into our country? People are going to come
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in with initiative, people who are, who want to work, you know, not people who just want to,
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I don't know, stay in hotels, get free phones and collect as much cash as they can from the
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taxpayers. What do you think? Well, it's even worse than that, Mark, because what you have is you have
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loopholes for people claiming refugee status who are violent criminals that are allowed to stay,
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right? Like there was a judge that just granted a Lebanese, he's not a citizen, he's immigrant or
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illegal immigrant, who is head of a drug ring to stay. So he's going to access the health care.
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Like there was, there was stats that just came out in the federal health committee saying that we've
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spent a billion dollars to provide health care for illegal immigrants and refugees. Like when,
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when regular Canadians who pay their taxes can't get seen. Like there was another woman who just
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passed away in Winnipeg who waited for, I believe it was eight or nine hours at the ER who couldn't
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get in. So no wonder people are upset. Like it's, it's dangerous, right? This, the extortion.
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Um, there was another story out in BC, this guy's like, anyway, they go on and on and on. It's like
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every time you open the, the news or on online, another illegal immigrant is here either terrorizing
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this country, taking resources, not contributing, and it's creating a divide, right? Like people are
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like, Oh, we've never been so divided. We've never been so racist. Well, it's because you've created
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scarcity under bad leadership, right? And you've pitted people against each other because they're
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now trying to, you know, get their own job. Their kids can't get a job. It's just, it's terrible
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immigration policy. That's what it comes down to. And the, and the reason for it, if you want to get
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really dark is it, it gives you votes. Like, I think I just saw before I logged on here that the
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liberal Ontario leadership race is going to allow temporary residents to vote. Like that for you,
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that's what this is all about. It's again, they always want to buy the votes. It's, it's brutal.
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It's brutal. And it's a major strain on the school system, for instance. I think you said there's 80,000
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new students that have gone into the school system. I mean, teachers are pulling their hair out trying
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to deal with it. I mean, in a way this takes me back to when there was a slew of people who came into
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the country back with the sixties and seventies, the country was growing. And my parents came in,
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in the 1950s and raised a family. They, they didn't come here with a handout. They expected to work.
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All they wanted was a peaceful place to raise their family. And at the time, well, the, the country was
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booming. I mean, we needed to build homes and my dad was more than happy to build work construction.
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And, you know, at that time going way back, maybe you remember this as well, Michelle, you know,
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you could have one person working and have mom stay home and raise four kids or, or whatever. And
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you could still afford to buy a house. All that has changed. And now she's saying, look, we're teetering
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under, under the brink. You've allowed 600,000 people into our province in short order. That's like
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half the size of Calgary. And it's adding to our debt burden and it's adding to the strain of dealing
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with education and healthcare. I mean, to me, these are things that every province should be pushing
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for, but I don't hear a whole lot of that talk from say, Doug Ford or any other premier. Could,
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could Daniel Smith's views spread to other provinces? Somehow I doubt it. What do you think?
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Well, I think you're going to have to deal with this. Like the other thing you've just left out
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again is the crime aspect, right? Like you have the CBSA officers testifying committee saying, oh yeah,
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well, we don't have the ability. We just have to use an app to, uh, to do criminal checks. Like,
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hopefully they're, hopefully they're not criminals, hopefully. And like, to your point earlier,
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you know, having the opportunity to go and knock on thousands of doors and talk to people constantly,
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the number one group of people who complain about immigration are immigrants. To your point, Mark,
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of your parents who came over and did everything right and followed all of the rules. And we had a
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great immigration system. Our country was built on immigrants. That's who we all are. Like whether
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it's first generation, second generation, third generation, we are all from an immigrant family,
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but the system was proper. You know, like in Peterborough, we had the Peter Robinson immigration.
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This was, you came over from Ireland, the Irish famine, they came, they were given a plot of land,
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like I think a shovel, a shanty, a cow. And if you didn't prove, uh, what you were able to contribute
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back to the community with a, within a year, you were gone. Like there was a, there was like,
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it seems so simple, like it's not complicated, but now you have literally violent criminals who are
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running human trafficking rings, running drug rings, who are not contributing in the way that they were,
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or they're taking resources and claiming refugee status as a loophole to stay in the country and
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commit crime all while taking away healthcare, education, and the social resort housing that
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Canadians and taxpayers deserve. So it's insane. And net, and then let's throw on the other thing
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that just happened with the federal immigration minister, Leanne, uh, Lena Diab, like, has anybody
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seen this? So she has just announced, like, I can't even believe what I'm about to tell you, Mark.
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She just announced she's going to allow foreign military officials into the Canadian army.
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Like in what world did anybody say, that's great. Like the last thing, the best comment I saw on my
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online was, aren't we developing our Canadian forces to fight foreign folks? Like, isn't that the point
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of the Canadian forces? And now you're inviting them in and giving them weapons. What is actually happening?
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Yeah. I mean, it's like they're trying to weaken our country on purpose. That's what it looks like to me.
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I mean, if you're bringing in a whole lot of people who are working...
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I mean, if you're bringing in economic dependence, it hurts the rest of us because we've got to support
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those economic dependence at a time where our debt has already doubled under the liberals. What are we,
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like a 1.4 trillion now? I mean, so our debt continues to climb. We've brought all these people
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who are not, are basically not contributing. Most of them are not contributing. They're just kind of waiting
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to go through their asylum process or whatever, and basically costing us money, costing us money.
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But I think to your point earlier about voting, I think the liberals need dependence. More dependence
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means more votes for them. That's why they love civil servants who are on the government payroll.
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And you know what? They also love people who are dependent on them in other ways.
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And you know, they can then go to the election, to the electorate and say, you know, those mean
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old conservatives are going to take stuff away. And you know, you're going to suffer if those cuts
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happen. You know what I'm saying? They get to scare voters into voting for them by pointing fingers
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and saying those mean old conservatives are going to take everything away. I mean, did you find that
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That, that that was the threat, like that we would cut public service or what? Is that what you mean?
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Yes. Yeah. So I mean, look at Bruce Fanjoy. So this is the guy that took Pierre Polyev's riding
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and told everyone, Pierre Polyev is going to cut the public service. Pierre Polyev is going to cut
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the public service. What did Mark Kearney just announced for that riding where this is like the most
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concentrated place of public service workers, government workers? 10,000. That's what Mark Kearney's doing.
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So all the things like I, one of the great things I heard someone say is liberal talking points are
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confessions. And I was like, oh, that's good. That's really good. Right? Because they're telling
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you what they're going to do, but they're blaming and projecting it onto the other people, whether it
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be conservatives or whatever. It's never their fault, Mark. It's never their fault. There's never
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any accountability. Oh, grocery prices are the highest in the G7. We have the highest food inflation in the
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G7. Mark Kearney said, judge me on grocery prices, judge me on whether you can afford a home or whether
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your kids can afford a home. I have a, I have a solution for the very problem that I created.
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I'm going to give you $10 in a grocery rebate. That's actually going to cost $13 billion that we
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don't have. That's going to drive up food inflation even more. I'm going to contribute to the problem
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even more, but hopefully you're not going to notice and I'm going to buy your vote. Like once you see it,
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you can't unsee what they do. And I guess, you know, the biggest thing I have to say to people
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is a, you deserve better. You absolutely deserve better. Stop accepting this, this low bar. And to,
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to loop it back to Danielle Smith, she's showing leadership by allowing the people to actually
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have a voice and to critically think like, are you happy with this? Are you happy with this
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immigration system that has absolutely taken away our resources and your ability to provide for your
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family or opportunity for you to work? Absolutely not. But guess what? The federal government has
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failed you. So I'm going to have to step up and do their job for them because they don't know what
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they're doing. Or they do know what they're doing to your point, Mark, where it's pretty hard at this
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point to say, this pretty feels, this feels pretty intentional. And you know, I have this saying that
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I would say in committee all the time, once you start to go down the road of following the money,
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when you have a guy of a CEO of Brookfield who has, you know, hidden assets, like it, it's just,
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uh, it's more of the same once you start to see it and you start, start to follow the trail.
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Yeah. I think there's a plan for them. They're not telling us what it is. I mean,
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they added 80% to the federal, uh, roles, the, uh, worker, right. The public servants, 80%.
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Well, if you hire a whole bunch of people from say, Polly Ove's old riding and, you know,
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put them on the payroll and then scare the hell out of them come election time, that
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Pierre is going to take their jobs away. Well, you know what, you have a chance to knock off the
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leader. And so I think that's probably what happened there. At least that's what I think.
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No. And I think you're right. And I think anybody who owns a small business, so small business owners
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make up like 99% of the economy. And every day, a small business owner phones me and tells me they're
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leaving Canada. They can't compete. Like there was a hair salon in Montreal charged a $500 fine
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yesterday because they didn't have non-binary haircuts on their, on their price list. This is why,
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like that's, that's a radical example, but it, this is why you have businesses leaving at exponential
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rates because the liberal belief system is to invest in socialism and bureaucrats and not allow
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a private, uh, independent entrepreneur or business to thrive. They make it impossible for them to
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thrive. And so they just give up and they're making everybody weak and dependent. And they're also
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normalizing this, uh, low bar for customer service, right? Like I just talked about this the other day,
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like phoning CRA. So never before have you paid so much tax and received what in return? How's your
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health care? How's your roads? How's like, I know those are municipal things, but like, how are all of
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these services that you pay all this tax for when you phone the CRA? What's that service like? Can you
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get through to a person? Will they give you the right information? It's just more of decay of, of what
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we've come to expect. And then we just kind of become desensitized to it and accept it. And it's like,
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well, everybody's doing the best they can. Like everything Mark Carney promised you,
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he has not delivered on nothing, nothing. Like he said, judge me by the grocery prices,
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judge me on housing, judge me on electricity prices, then judge him, judge him because it's
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not getting better. It's getting worse. How do people consume your content? And by the way,
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I also know about your hope tour. You want to plug that while we got a minute? Oh yeah. Thank you so much,
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Mark. So hope tour was born out of the, basically the rallies that I took part in during the election
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period where everybody got to come together, feel like they were part of something and give them
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concrete tools, um, and advice on how to stay politically involved. Because I feel like a lot
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of people do feel hopeless right now. What's the point? Why even vote when the guy I voted for crosses
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the floor, all of these crazy things happening in our world. So the hope tour is kicking off in Vaughan,
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Ontario, February 26th is our first one. It's our pilot one. It's a 7 PM start point. Uh, you can get
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tickets on Eventbrite, just search the hope tour. And it's myself along with some amazing guests,
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Jonathan Harvey, Jasmine Lane, Brad Smith from AM 640 and many others. It's going to be a lot of fun.
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Jeffery. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Great to speak with you.
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