00:02:36.760I actually spoke there when my book, The Freedom Convoy, came out.
00:02:40.200And it was good to be back for this interview with Danielle Smith.
00:02:43.120She was the keynote speaker of the Albany Club's big annual black tie dinner, the Sir John A. McDonald dinner.
00:02:50.000And because it is Danielle Smith and this is Canada, she was met with protesters who have been following her as she's gone through Ontario.
00:02:57.500She had an event in Ottawa on Monday that was protested.
00:03:01.120They've protested her in Toronto yesterday.
00:03:03.780I'm assuming whenever she appears next, she'll be protested.
00:03:06.320all in response to the announcement that she made last week that we spoke about on the show
00:03:11.680about parental rights, about caution and consideration and compassion for younger
00:03:18.800people who are transgender, who are battling or grappling with gender dysphoria. The announcement,
00:03:24.100I mean, there were a number of policies. She said they're going to ban any sex reassignment
00:03:27.720surgeries for minors, any hormone therapy for minors under the age of 16, protecting
00:03:35.900women's only sports and also insisting on parental rights if a youth under 16 wants to change their
00:03:43.320name, gender, pronouns, etc. in school. These are policies that are incredibly popular
00:03:49.200with the majority of Canadian parents across religious lines, political lines, geographic
00:03:55.120lines, cultural lines, all of it. These are policies that are not just conservative, let alone
00:04:00.580social conservative so really these protesters are in the minority you know that old line from
00:04:06.180justin trudeau the fringe minority this is a literal fringe minority this is a literal fringe
00:04:12.200minority that was coming out to protest danielle smith now the albany club is a very old building
00:04:17.300it goes back to the 1800s i don't know when the current building was constructed but old buildings
00:04:22.260do not insulate from sound very well so i was getting a little nervous when we were setting up
00:04:26.760and starting to hear the chants from protesters who were like right outside we were on the third
00:04:32.660floor they were right outside and below where we were and I was noted I noticed and I remarked to
00:04:38.500Sean my producer and Jeff was there as well who's a videographer with True North I remarked that it
00:04:44.500was odd that they ran out of the trans chants after like 15 minutes and they had already reverted to
00:04:50.140from the river to the sea Palestine will be free which perhaps you believe perhaps you don't I'm
00:04:55.760not sure what that has to do with Danielle Smith or the Albany Club. But Sean then sent me this
00:05:01.380video later on because he was outside and they had again exhausted the trans stuff and the from
00:05:06.960the river to the sea stuff and they were just shouting about intifada. Long live the intifada.
00:05:23.560All right. Well, there you go. The Alberta premier, Danielle Smith, she's been told
00:05:26.900long live the Intifada. That is all of these protests. If you've ever been to like a left
00:05:31.800wing protest, first off, I hope you took a shower and got deloused. But if you've ever been to a
00:05:36.140left wing protest, you'll notice that they all kind of converge by the end of it into the same
00:05:41.320thing. They're indistinguishable. It's all about trans lives, black lives, Palestinian lives and
00:05:46.880indigenous land. And it's all this sort of amorphous mass that is indistinct. So again,
00:05:52.080when these people were carrying their trans flags and talking about liberation for Palestinians,
00:05:58.140I was really encouraging. I was like, yes, why don't you go and take your message? I didn't say
00:06:02.600this. I, you know, I just, I had to get home. I'd been away from home for a long time, but had I
00:06:06.400said it, which is the most cowardly thing is like, if I were to say it, I would have said, I would
00:06:10.900love for you to take your trans flag to Gaza and really spread the message of trans liberation of
00:06:16.400Palestinian liberation all at once. But nevertheless, the protesters were a pretty
00:06:22.160meager group there. There was this one clip I'll play for you. I want you to help me because I'm
00:06:27.600actually having trouble figuring out what they're even saying in this one.
00:06:40.760I have no idea. It's like rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble. So they're saying something,
00:06:45.280they're chanting something what was it you thought they were saying sean sean uh i i had
00:06:49.560him try to demystify it earlier i gotta find his uh oh stand up fight i didn't hear stand up fight
00:06:55.680back i maybe you did that's fine um he sean was out there in the midst uh filming that so uh stand
00:07:01.920up fight back might have been this the syllables match up yeah but the syllables match up of like
00:07:06.180chicken cornbread uh that also matches up like it's just your four syllables is all i wouldn't
00:07:11.060I wouldn't start counting the syllables
00:07:12.300and saying that you know the words from that.
00:07:14.760But I don't know why chicken cornbread
00:07:17.040was the first four syllable thing that came to my mind.
00:07:19.900It might've been that like Southern restaurant
00:08:18.500I had some great meetings with the minister as well as the opposition members.
00:08:23.120I also had a chance to speak to the Economic Club of Canada.
00:08:27.700And I'll be doing another speech this evening.
00:08:30.400And, you know, my message is the reason I'm on the road is to tell people that Alberta's open for business.
00:08:35.780Alberta wants to be part of a strong and united Canada. When Alberta does well, Canada does well.
00:08:40.880And we just need to get the federal government out of our way so that we can continue to invest
00:08:45.160in our economy. So I think people are liking that message. And I'm hoping to see more investment in
00:08:49.720Alberta as a result. Well, we'll certainly get to that in a few moments. But I want to begin
00:08:54.180starting off really about the announcement that you made a little over a week ago on
00:08:59.040a suite of policies related to gender and health care for transgender individuals, the way they're
00:09:05.500treated in the education system and in sports you packed a lot into that and I I wonder if I can
00:09:11.100kind of offer a question here about why it took so long when we saw similar moves in Saskatchewan
00:09:17.320and New Brunswick what was it that made now the moment and not months ago when people were pushing
00:09:22.660your government to have an answer to these questions well I've been watching this unfold
00:09:26.280over the the last number of years and I've I've also paid attention as we've seen lawsuits that
00:09:33.480have generated, not just here, but around the world. We've watched as the policy that was
00:09:40.200really began in the approach that was started in the Netherlands, started getting rolled back in
00:09:45.020some of the Nordic and progressive nations in Europe. And then of course the UK in particular,
00:09:50.100which made a pretty dramatic move to schedule the shutdown of their gender identity clinic,
00:09:56.180Tavistock, as a result of a lawsuit. So I was watching this and seeing as well locally
00:10:02.620there was a young transgender woman who felt pushed into, rushed into making a decision
00:10:08.440prematurely and has had ongoing health issues as a result of that. So as I looked at this window
00:10:16.400of the range of debate on it, I wanted to see if we could find a balance. We know that
00:10:22.620transgender adults need better support in their medical decisions. There's a lot of aftercare
00:10:27.360that has to happen because of surgery. There's lifetime hormonal treatment and managing
00:10:32.420some of the side effects that has to occur, so we want to make sure that they have access to the
00:10:36.180care that they need. But then we have to talk about when is it that a child should be making
00:10:40.720these decisions that, in some cases, are irreversible. So we believe that these are
00:10:46.500adult decisions to be made as adults, so no surgery until 18 and over, and no cross-sex
00:10:54.160hormones as well until 16 and older. We think 16 is kind of the age where kids now begin to
00:10:59.200understand the consequences of what it is that they're choosing. And we want to make sure that
00:11:03.620there's a pathway to keep families informed along the way and involved along the way. So that was
00:11:07.960the approach we wanted to take. You put forward in your announcement video what I and a lot of
00:11:13.020people have lauded as being a very compassionate message, a very balanced and nuanced message. But
00:11:20.300you fast forward to today, and I don't know how much of it people watching this interview can
00:11:24.360here. But you've got protesters outside that have been chanting some pretty vile things inexplicably
00:11:29.900about Palestine too, which I don't know if Alberta has a skin in the game on that foreign policy
00:11:35.440debate. But you had the same thing in Ottawa, a lot of protesters here. And you also, from the
00:11:40.580federal Liberal government, had some, I think, very torqued rhetoric in response to this. Randy
00:11:46.380Boissoneau, an Alberta Member of Parliament for the Liberals, said this was the NATO moment. So
00:11:51.420So do you think there's truth to the criticism you've had from some of your supporters, that you're trying to find a compromise with people that aren't willing to compromise?
00:11:59.100Look, I know that there is not uniformity of opinion in the medical profession.
00:12:03.960There's not uniformity of opinion in the LGBT plus community either.
00:12:08.380And as a result, I consulted broadly to try to get a suite of proposals that I thought were going to be very reasonable.
00:12:16.040I think the rhetoric and the way in which the protesters are reacting is it's not helpful.
00:12:22.720They're not being truthful about what it is that I'm proposing because I'm very supportive of allowing and helping a person become who they want to be, whatever that pathway is.
00:12:32.700what I think we have to be mindful of as adults is that kids don't necessarily have the full
00:12:39.600context of what it means if they're making decisions for sterilization, what it means
00:12:44.020if they're making decisions for cross-sex hormones that create permanent changes.
00:12:47.860And until they are old enough to understand the ramifications of those, we think we have
00:12:51.680to be very cautious. Give them support, give them mental health treatment, give them counseling
00:12:57.360to make sure that they can develop the comfort level
00:16:01.660And because she ultimately went to a point where she wanted to seek medical assistance in dying because of the complications that happened after her surgery 14 years later.
00:16:10.960We've got to address those health needs.
00:16:12.860We've got to make sure that people like Lois feel supported.
00:16:17.460So I think it's being mischaracterized.
00:16:20.340I think that people will see that the measures that we put in place that allow for us to attract more doctors who can do the surgical aftercare, who can give that long-term life care, I think people will see that we're actually going to be very supportive of the trans community.
00:16:35.200I wanted to turn to what you started off talking about, which is the relationship between Alberta and Ottawa.
00:16:40.480This week you opened up or reopened, I should say.
00:16:43.320It's been closed for quite some time at Alberta's representative office in Ottawa.
00:16:47.380And I'm curious where you think this relationship can go,
00:16:51.860because I know you and your minister, Rebecca Schultz,
00:16:54.160have had very harsh words for Stephen Gilbeau in particular,
00:16:56.500and I won't pretend for a moment they haven't been undeserved.
00:16:59.640But is it a relationship that can be fixed?
00:20:54.380So you kind of answered the question I was going to ask,
00:20:56.620which was whether you are able to or trying to do an end run around the federal government.
00:21:01.080But is that what it's had to come to now, that provinces have to basically have their own, you know, their own diplomatic corps, basically, to start representing Canada's interests at the East Bora?
00:21:10.680There's no question we have to. I mean, it's part and parcel of why we're represented now in Ottawa.
00:21:14.640Quebec is represented in Ottawa. They have an office there.
00:21:17.840And I find that very interesting, being that most of the civil service is from Quebec and that they're right across the river in Hull.
00:21:23.680and yet they felt a need to be able to have a diplomatic office in Ottawa.
00:21:26.700Well, if they're there, then we should be there too.
00:21:28.980They're internationally at more international offices as well.
00:21:32.680Internationally, they also go to all of these conferences.
00:21:35.180And internationally, they also sign on to subnational agreements that are hostile to our interests.
00:21:40.460So my view is that there are a lot of energy producing nations in the world
00:21:44.500and subnational governments that want to do the right thing,
00:21:48.260that want to find ways to share technology, use carbon capture utilization and storage,
00:21:52.760develop hydrogen, develop ammonia, and increasingly in Alberta, look at things like geothermal and
00:21:59.880brine lithium as a way of taking our current resource and using and developing it in a
00:22:04.520different way. And we want to share that technology. So I want to assist in bringing
00:22:09.000the subnational and national governments together who are energy producers so that we can share that
00:22:13.960technology. And I think that the COP meetings are the perfect place to do that. So I think that
00:22:18.840you'll see a much stronger presence of Alberta in the future.
00:22:23.020I know it's very easy for Albertans who voted against the Liberals
00:22:27.680in the vast majority of the province in the last federal election
00:22:30.420to find a foe in the Liberal government right now.
00:22:32.720And I think that probably makes your job easier in a way
00:22:34.980because you can kind of point to Ottawa and this government.
00:22:37.320But Alberta has not always had great success historically
00:22:47.100And I'm curious, not to force you back into your previous role as a political accommodator, but I'm curious what your sense is from what Pierre Polyev has said to you, either privately or what he said publicly, about what a change in that direction would mean for Alberta.
00:23:03.940Would it make a lot of the issues that you have with Ottawa go away, or are there still some grave concerns you'd have that are general, regardless of who's in power federally?
00:23:11.400One of the things I find that Pierre Polyev says a lot is, let the province run provincial
00:23:16.980jurisdiction. Let the province runs the hospital. Let the province run the school system. Focus on
00:23:23.220the things that the federal government should be focused on. They've got a big job to do.
00:23:27.080They have to express who we are on the international stage in international trade and
00:23:32.660foreign aid in national defense. They have to develop immigration policy. They have to
00:23:39.560manage our money supply and the value of our dollar. These are all a justice system. There's
00:23:47.260a lot that the federal government has to do, but they're not doing particularly well. So rather
00:23:51.760than trying to tell me how to run my business, I think they should focus on running their own
00:23:55.280business. And I get the very strong sense that Pierre understands just how much there is to
00:24:00.120fix at the federal level. He has no interest in micromanaging the provinces. I think we'll find
00:24:05.240lots of areas of collaboration. So if there's a change of government, I think it will be very
00:24:10.580good for Alberta. Premier, thank you. My pleasure. That was my chat yesterday with Alberta Premier
00:24:18.500Danielle Smith. I've often joked I used to be her go-to guest host or fill-in at 770 CHQR in
00:24:25.700Calgary. So my joke, which is now overused, but you, well, it's my show, so you have to listen
00:24:29.880to it again, is that I think the Constitution says I'm the acting premier now because I've
00:24:34.120never technically been told I wasn't her fill-in so it was good to be radio colleagues good now to
00:24:38.480sit down in a different capacity as she is the premier and I am well still a broadcaster but
00:24:44.400having more fun than when I work for a legacy media outlet I must admit but she's done something
00:24:50.360there that I think is very important now I was getting a little bit I don't want to say antsy
00:24:55.020because I knew from sources I had spoken to in the Alberta government that something was coming
00:24:59.900but I had wondered why it was taking so long. You may recall it was back in, I think, November that
00:25:05.000the UCP had its AGM members overwhelmingly voted for parental rights policies. We had
00:25:10.120the federal conservatives vote for this in September. We had New Brunswick push this in
00:25:14.700the summer, Saskatchewan not long after. And a lot of people were saying, why is Alberta,
00:25:18.720the conservative heartland of Canada, not doing the same? And when the announcement ultimately
00:25:24.260came out, it became far more apparent why. The reason was because we had a government that was
00:25:30.280doing a lot more. It's not even possible to summarize in one sentence what this legislation
00:25:36.220is about, because it touches on healthcare, it touches on sports, it touches on education,
00:25:41.300it touches on all of these things. And that was why, to bring it to the federal realm for a moment,
00:25:46.660Pierre Polyev has had a bit of an out when people have asked him about it, because people have asked
00:25:50.600in general terms there was a an exchange he had with a reporter for omni a couple of days ago
00:25:56.520in which the reporter and i felt bad for the guy because it was just it wasn't even a reporter it
00:26:00.840was a camera guy that had been given a question to ask and then he asks the question and it was
00:26:06.520a terrible question terribly worded but he he didn't know anything about it he was just like
00:26:10.520reading it to get pauliev's response so pauliev then you know does the pauliev thing with the
00:26:14.680the media before he sort of pulled back on it. But what ended up happening there was he had,
00:26:21.720the premise of the question was that Paul Yev is restricting access to transgender youth. It was
00:26:26.620some variation of that. There was a better version of the question asked yesterday in Montreal by
00:26:32.840Justin Ling, who's a left-leaning reporter, but he's been on the show. I've always had a very
00:26:37.820cordial relationship with him. But Justin Ling asked a question, which I think was entirely
00:26:42.600fair which was you know first off where do you stand personally on this and then more importantly
00:26:48.540is it true this Globe and Mail story that said your caucus members are forbidden from speaking
00:26:54.060out about it this came out a couple of days ago now again I didn't like Justin Ling's framing of
00:26:59.060the policy itself which was non-specific as you'll see and Polyev seized on that but this was the
00:27:05.720exchange in question. You often said you support medical freedom, that you oppose the state
00:27:13.280imposing medical choices on the Canadians. Yesterday, you were asked about a new policy
00:27:19.020in Alberta, which restricts health care for transgender youth in particular. You refused to
00:27:25.140say where you actually stand on those regulations. You attacked journalists who asked you that
00:27:30.840question as peddling disinformation for the prime minister. So can you say now where you stand on
00:27:37.240the state restricting health care access for transgender youth? And can you confirm whether
00:27:42.560or not your caucus is allowed to speak freely on this issue? First and foremost, you are spreading
00:27:50.020disinformation and you refuse to even describe the policy proposals that are being debated.
00:27:56.100You refuse to even list any of them. And the reason that you the reason you do, let's be clear
00:28:00.040why you don't do it. Because you don't want to lose the debate. And so if you keep it vague
00:28:06.400and you actually refrain from actually describing the policies that Premier Smith is putting in
00:28:12.480place, then you think that you can misrepresent them and misrepresent conservatives.
00:28:19.300This is exactly what Justin Trudeau has done. You notice that Trudeau has not given a single
00:28:24.220example of any of the policies that premier smith has brought forward that he individually disagrees
00:28:30.460with because he doesn't want to be specific about it and that's because he and you want to peddle in
00:28:38.300disinformation in order to demonize uh premier smith and parents and justin trudeau has spread
00:28:49.260hatred against parents he's accused muslim parents of being hateful because they were standing up
00:28:56.700for their kids he's attacked christian parents he has suggested that parents cannot be trusted
00:29:03.740with their kids and i disagree with him i think we have to trust parents no one cares for their
00:29:09.740kids more than parents and that's why justin trudeau should butt out he should let parents
00:29:17.020raise kids and let provinces run schools and hospitals
00:29:22.780so again he gives a general support for what provinces are are doing and in general i think
00:29:30.300he's saying the federal government shouldn't engage but he still didn't deal with the core
00:29:34.620of the question and the core of the question is what do you think about this policy
00:29:39.020and are members of your caucus allowed to do it and this is by the way now almost a full week
00:29:44.780after it was announced i think six days after it was announced he knows the questions are coming
00:29:49.900parties prep the leader and their members of parliament up the yin-yang with talking points
00:29:54.700and messages for how to respond to these things and still there was not a cogent or cohesive answer
00:30:01.180to the question at stake well we finally got one this morning on a key part of it but as you'll see
00:30:06.460in this clip i'm about i i won't even comment on it i'll just share the clip with you right now
00:30:10.620It's about two and a half minutes long because I want you to get the full back and forth of this.
00:30:15.060And then I'll have some thoughts on the other end of it.
00:30:17.220But this is this morning at a press conference that Pierre Pauly have held in Ottawa.
00:30:23.940Do you support age restrictions for puberty blockers and hormone therapies for trans kids?
00:30:28.880I think that Justin Trudeau is trying to divide and distract Canadians by spreading disinformation about the decisions that Premiers and parents are making.
00:37:48.100but to give the testament to our customers they were also willing participants in that they could
00:37:56.380see the old practices of 30 40 50 years ago were causing you know liabilities that they didn't want
00:38:03.920to you know have in the future so there was all i think a mutual interest there how could we work
00:38:09.260together we also wanted to help them in just the day-to-day production so you know the simple
00:38:15.240things that that that look simple but are complicated is you know as you produce the
00:38:20.540oil and natural gas there's also water byproducts there's waste that gets built up and and so
00:38:26.380handling that day-to-day production waste as well and then finally finally we're helping with some
00:38:31.080of the remediation and the reclamation of of their uh wells as they became suspended to abandonment
00:38:37.760finally putting it back to what nature was there before the narrative we hear today certainly from
00:38:43.680a lot of people in government and even more so in environmental NGOs is that the industry is the
00:38:49.380problem to the environment and the government is the solution. So that doesn't square with
00:38:53.960the story you've just told of the industry taking a leading role on this. So what are people missing
00:38:58.820in this discussion? Yeah, first of all, you know, reading headlines or reading biased statements
00:39:07.040versus getting out there and actually seeing what's going on is, you know, perception versus
00:39:11.500reality and and so i've had the luxury of because secure has been very successful wanting to expand
00:39:18.220all around the world and whether you go to texas or you could go to kazakhstan or you go to the
00:39:23.700middle east it doesn't matter columbia um canada has not only the best regulations but the best
00:39:31.760regulations that are followed there's there's a lot of countries that have good regulations but
00:39:36.680they're not enforced so it's all about not only not only having good regulations but also following
00:39:42.300but the great thing about our industry was that right from day one industry had an input and bought
00:39:49.920into the new regulations so they didn't fight them and so as time developed they could see the
00:39:56.360benefits of environment you know stricter environmental regulations was actually better
00:40:01.000for the business long term. So before the whole ESG theme started to come about, our customers
00:40:07.260were thinking, asking us to help them be more proactive with any type of environmental aspects
00:40:13.920of the business. And you look at the environmental footprint that was around 50, even 15 years ago
00:40:21.660versus today, the, you know, drilling eight to 12 wells on one pad versus, you know, having eight
00:40:28.800or 12 leases all that is now on one lease you know so and then the pipeline coming from there to get
00:40:35.840the oil or gas to to the processing plant to get it to the market huge smaller footprint everybody's
00:40:43.840worked together in terms of reducing emissions we've been doing a lot of things a lot of product
00:40:48.860was moved by truck now that's pipeline connected so you're taking trucks off the road that burn
00:40:53.780diesel but you're also from a safety aspect you're not worried about all these trucks on
00:40:58.400different roads and highways so all these little things are adding up to reducing the overall
00:41:03.520emissions intensity it's also reducing their long-term liabilities so it's a win-win there's
00:41:08.740there's not this is costing more business it's actually the right thing for not only the planet
00:41:14.480earth but for their business and we've been able to create a business where we're adding value to
00:41:18.900the customers and so that that's where it becomes a win-win. I know the words themselves are fraught
00:41:23.620But we have the government articulating this so-called just transition that basically imagines a future without the oil and gas sector.
00:41:31.220And there are very real-world consequences to that.
00:41:34.640And really, the stated objectives, I go back to what we were talking about a few moments ago, are things that you're saying the industry has already been committed to.
00:41:52.440Yeah, I think when I look at it no differently than someone picks up a new religion,
00:41:59.240I'm not going to be able to convince them to change religion.
00:42:02.260So if you have open-minded people that want to get away from the big cities
00:42:08.920and come and walk in footsteps and actually see what's going on,
00:42:19.120And most of our visitors that have come from other countries are astonished to see the cleanliness, how we have all this environmental protection.
00:42:32.860We do sometimes two, three different liners to protect the earth.
00:42:37.400You know, we have all these gas blanket systems to reduce emissions and make sure that they don't go in the atmosphere.
00:42:43.920So when people actually get out there and touch it and feel it, they come away with a whole different story.
00:42:50.020And this even goes to the investment world, which, you know, you hear about, you know, not wanting to invest in oil and gas.
00:42:55.880A lot of our investors, we encourage them to go to the field and see what's going on and come away with a totally different perspective as opposed to reading headlines in a newspaper or a TV show.
00:43:07.200Well, and I think that's why this series has been so valuable in these conversations, because there are a lot of Canadians that I don't think know one way or another.
00:43:15.740So they're probably open-minded, and the first person or the loudest person to give them their position is probably the one that they'll take.
00:43:21.760So I'll ask, I guess, more of a general question here.
00:43:24.920I mean, what is it you think Canadians who are not connected to this industry need to know about it?
00:43:30.100Well, I think, first of all, they can sleep at night knowing that the Canadian oil and gas industry
00:43:38.200has the best environmental regulations and the best standards in the world.
00:43:41.740So bar none, I've seen them, I've been there, bar none.
00:43:46.060Second of all, this industry is not resting on its laurels.
00:43:52.280It's saying, okay, we're going to stay number one for a long, long time.
00:44:20.620We're going to be able to not only do that for North America,
00:44:25.680But if you can start exporting that around the world, it starts to begs the question that if you can get more Canadian energy around the world, i.e. exported, then you're not only having high environmental standards, but you've got lower emissions and you're replacing production from a Nigeria or a Venezuela.
00:44:47.860it does never mind all the ethical boundaries around uh being a democratic versus a tongue
00:44:54.200democratic and and suppressing freedom so i mean i would just you know all i ask is people to get
00:45:02.020the facts just get the facts and if you if you want you know uh please come out and see it but
00:45:08.960just get the facts and and then at least then make your judgment renee amiro secure thank you okay
00:45:15.040thank you renee amiro that was the penultimate edition of unjust transition i hope you've been
00:45:22.640learning as much in these as i have it's funny so one of the things that journalists do oftentimes
00:45:28.460is they kind of pretend to be experts in certain things you see this with like health journalists
00:45:32.980that kind of think they're doctors and climate change reporters that think they're scientists
00:45:36.280and all of that and i i am like the anti-expert i i love being a journalist because i love just
00:45:41.560being able to ask really dumb questions to learn things about things and and if you here's the
00:45:45.940little trick if you ever hear me ask someone i'm interviewing i shouldn't admit to this i shouldn't
00:45:50.640admit to it but i'm going to because i believe in honesty if you ever hear me ask a question of like
00:45:55.240for someone what would you tell someone who doesn't know anything it's me saying i don't
00:46:00.820know anything but i don't want to admit that i don't know anything usually maybe once in a while
00:46:05.400i'm i'm genuine about it but usually if i say yeah what would you tell someone who didn't if
00:46:08.900because I'm an idiot. All right. That does it for us for today. We'll be back tomorrow to wrap up
00:46:14.100the week. And also, if you haven't had a chance to check it out yet, we have a brand new show
00:46:17.780every Friday on True North called Off the Record. I can't tell you too much about it because, well,
00:46:22.760it's off the record, but you can catch that Fridays. And I will be, I'm not going to be on
00:46:26.940every week, but I'm going to be on, I think, most weeks, including this week. So we premiered it
00:46:30.940last Friday. We'll have episode two this Friday and who knows what will come after that. So
00:46:34.500So without further ado, we'll wrap things up there.
00:46:36.980Thank you, God bless, and good day to you all.
00:46:40.440Thanks for listening to The Andrew Vaughn Show.
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