Juno News - February 23, 2024


DEBUNKING the CBC’s radical trans nonsense


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supposed journalists at the CBC are nothing more than radical trans activists, and on today's show, I'm going to walk you through the latest evidence. It's Fake News Friday, and we're bringing it back.

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00:00:00.000 Supposed journalists at the CBC are nothing more than radical trans activists. And on today's show,
00:00:05.680 I'm going to walk you through the latest evidence. It's Fake News Friday. I'm Candace
00:00:08.940 Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:24.700 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast. It's our favorite show here at The
00:00:29.060 Candace Malcolm Show, the Fake News Friday segment. We are bringing it back. I saw this article from
00:00:34.800 the CBC. It is peak CBC. Every single element of this story is just so over the top, so agenda
00:00:41.340 driven, so ideological, so far from doing a service to Canadians by providing them with news. So I
00:00:48.320 figured I would walk you through it in full just to show you what a farce CBC has become. So look,
00:00:54.960 we've been covering this issue a lot on The Candace Malcolm Show and True North overall. I think it's
00:01:01.140 an incredibly important story and revelation in Canadian media, in Canadian public policy,
00:01:07.780 in Canadian life. The fact that a politician, Danielle Smith, has come out with a bold,
00:01:12.820 brave policy to ban surgeries on gender dysphoric children, to ban life-altering sex change operations,
00:01:20.960 and then seeing how other politicians across the country, namely Pierre Polyev, have followed suit
00:01:26.200 and come along and defended this policy and now doubled down on that defense is something that
00:01:31.340 would not have happened even a year ago in this country. I think it's a tremendous revelation,
00:01:36.240 something worth covering in deep. So I'll take you back to that day that Danielle Smith announced
00:01:40.580 the policy, which was February 3rd. And our friend Jonathan Kaye pointed this out on Twitter,
00:01:46.860 that this is what the CBC national news page looks like right now. So John Kaye tweets,
00:01:51.700 CBC news editors having the expected meltdown. This is what the national CBC news page looks like
00:01:57.560 right now. And if we can just zoom in a little closer on what that page actually looks like,
00:02:02.960 you can see the stories that they're covering. So the main story on the site
00:02:06.200 is transgender allies in Calgary and Edmonton protest against Alberta's proposed new policies.
00:02:11.100 Danielle Smith says legislation coming this fall. And then all of the other stories on the website.
00:02:15.340 So there's one, two, three, four, five, six of their stories. They're all reactions to Danielle
00:02:20.000 Smith. And they're all from the exact same side, which is people who are outraged, people who find
00:02:25.480 this absolutely unacceptable, people who are having a negative reaction. You know, in journalism school,
00:02:31.540 we're taught like tell both sides of the story. I think to the CBC telling both sides of the story
00:02:36.860 means, you know, tell the side of athletes opposing this policy, tell the side of doctors opposing this
00:02:42.720 policy, tell the side of teachers opposing this policy, tell the side of activists opposing the
00:02:47.860 policy. It was literally just all the different sides that oppose the policy. Even though we know
00:02:53.280 that the statistics have come out, they polled Canadians. We know that somewhere between 50 and
00:02:58.520 75% of Canadians support Danielle Smith and what she's doing. But from the CBC's perspective,
00:03:04.180 everything about this was a travesty. Every single news story had to focus on how wrong it was that she
00:03:10.640 was doing this. And so this is coming from sort of the same mentality. I stumbled upon the story
00:03:15.880 and I'm going to read it to you pretty much in its entirety. This is what the article looks like.
00:03:21.980 It says, this clinic for gender affirming healthcare went private. The founder wishes it didn't.
00:03:28.920 Foria offers virtual healthcare for trans and non-binary patients in Ontario and Alberta. And then
00:03:34.720 it shows an image here of Dr. Kate Greenaway, who is the medical director at Foria, a virtual only
00:03:40.400 clinic for gender affirming care. She launches privately run service after her former clinic
00:03:44.900 closed due to funding changes by the Ontario government. So it's sort of the CBC is like two
00:03:50.560 favorite things to rail against, which is anyone who is opposed to their trans ideology and also
00:03:57.420 anybody who supports private care. And we get it all in this glorious news story. So let me just
00:04:05.100 read through you. It's like, again, peak CBC, if they can, if they can rail against someone and,
00:04:11.160 and promote trans ideology, and then at the same time rail against anyone for suggesting that there
00:04:15.860 should be private healthcare in Canada, they will do it. And that's what this article does here. So
00:04:19.760 let me just read through the story. It says, Kit Sparrow was faced with two options when he sought out
00:04:25.160 gender affirming care, wait months for a specialist appointment or pay out of pocket for a privately run
00:04:30.760 virtual service. The Ontario-based accessibility technology engineer had spent years trying to
00:04:35.740 understand his gender identity. Last March, he decided to visit his family doctor and begin
00:04:40.860 transitioning. While his physician responded positively, they didn't have the training or
00:04:46.100 experience to prescribe hormone treatment and instead referred him to an endocrinologist.
00:04:51.600 This referral, Sparrow says, came with a seven month wait list. Hearing that I had to wait
00:04:56.260 even longer was a punch in the gut, he told the host of this podcast. So let me just stop here
00:05:02.200 because like, we're supposed to read this story with empathy for this young woman who suddenly
00:05:07.960 believes that she's a man and she was pleased that her doctor went along with it. And then we're
00:05:13.540 supposed to feel a great deal of sympathy that she had to wait seven months. Well, perhaps it's just a
00:05:19.960 reminder, like to anyone who lives in Canada and has any experience with the Canadian healthcare
00:05:25.020 service, like everybody waits. Everybody waits for everything. Like when I was pregnant in Toronto and
00:05:31.340 I needed to find an OB, I had to go to a family doctor and they get referred and then wait. And I
00:05:36.400 was pregnant. I literally had to go see a doctor to have my six week visit and my eight week visit.
00:05:40.960 And I had to wait. That's just the normal experience of people in Canada. There are currently 3.4
00:05:48.260 million people in Canada on some kind of a wait list waiting for some kind of a surgery. This is
00:05:54.760 according to Second Street. So the idea that it's like, so unusual or unfair that this individual
00:06:01.980 had to wait seven months just doesn't really ring true for anyone who lives in Canada and has had the
00:06:06.740 experience of having to see a doctor or wait to see any kind of specialist. That's just how the system
00:06:11.660 works in our country, unfortunately. Okay. So going back to the story, it says, depending on where a
00:06:17.780 patient is located in Canada, wait times for gender affirming care can be months. Here is a precarious
00:06:23.420 position for people who are already struggling with their mental illness. So just another note
00:06:28.080 here, when they say gender affirming care, that is a euphemism. It doesn't really exactly describe
00:06:34.060 what is happening here. Okay. So the idea is that when it comes to gender for these people,
00:06:39.760 they're saying that it is different than their biological sex. So the biological sex is a woman,
00:06:43.880 but their gender that they see themselves as is a male. And so they want affirming care. So they
00:06:51.880 want healthcare to make them a man, they want a sex change operation, which, you know, as everybody 0.96
00:06:57.540 knows, you can't change your biology, you can't change your sex. So they say that you can change
00:07:01.440 your gender, and they want gender affirming care. So taking you to the other gender, that's what 0.98
00:07:07.620 they're referring to with this sort of soft, nice sounding gender affirming care, we're talking
00:07:11.640 about sex change operations typically. And interesting note as well is that the article says right out
00:07:18.840 that it's a precarious position for people already struggling with their mental health.
00:07:24.220 So the article kind of lets the cat out of the bag, and saying that the people who are going
00:07:28.240 through this procedure are mentally unwell, that this is a form of gender dysphoria, these people 0.98
00:07:33.380 are mentally unwell. And they're saying that because they're mentally unwell, we have to give them
00:07:38.680 life altering, sex altering medications, medical interventions to somehow help save their mental 0.91
00:07:45.980 illness. I mean, my initial instinct when I read that is, these people are mentally ill, let's treat 0.96
00:07:50.920 the mental illness rather than mutilating their bodies, because they believe that they are the 0.99
00:07:57.400 opposite sex. I mean, it seems to me pretty clear in the subtext of this article that that that is a
00:08:03.260 proper response. However, that's the exact opposite of what the CBC is advocating here. Okay, I'll
00:08:08.820 continue to read it says, transgender health researcher Avery Ahart says the trans and non-binary
00:08:13.860 community is facing a crisis of access to gender affirming care. And there may be value in trying 1.00
00:08:19.340 to throw every possible solution at it. So interestingly, there's always a crisis when it comes to this
00:08:24.580 stuff. It's always an emergency crisis of care, we should throw every dollar possible at this
00:08:30.400 issue. I mean, take a step back, like, what are we throwing? What do you want to throw every
00:08:34.140 dollar of care at it? Giving drugs and hormones to very confused young people, offering really risky
00:08:41.400 surgeries to people who might come to regret this decision, people who are already suffering from
00:08:46.520 mental illness. It's like, it's like, not only are they so dead set on pushing their radical solutions
00:08:53.300 to these social problems, but they want to treat it like every, like, we have to devote every dollar
00:08:59.800 of taxpayer money possible to fulfilling their, you know, ideological wishes. So here she says,
00:09:07.900 but she warns that further privatization of the healthcare risks creating an inequitable two-tier
00:09:13.520 system, where those with funds can get care quickly, and those without it have to wait,
00:09:18.860 while investors profit off of a marginalized community. That might be one of my favorite 0.99
00:09:22.960 sentences ever in a CBC story. This is sort of the argument that we've been hearing for like decades
00:09:28.380 in Canada, that no, no, no, we can't, we can't have privatized care, because it will just mean that rich
00:09:33.580 people will get to pay, and everybody else has to wait. Except for the current system that we have
00:09:38.740 now, where just everybody waits. 3.4 million Canadians waits. So at least in like this imagined,
00:09:43.980 like, they create this boogeyman saying like, in this terrible two-tiered system, rich people will
00:09:48.600 get they want everyone else to wait. Well, at least in that system, some people get the care that they
00:09:52.960 need, as opposed to now, where like, nobody gets the care they need. Everybody waits. Everybody's
00:09:58.460 suffering from a system. And then they throw in for good measure here, while investors profit off a
00:10:05.540 marginalized community, like if we had a private system, investors would profit. What investors
00:10:09.640 exactly is the CBC referring to here? What investors, honestly, we're talking about like pensions,
00:10:15.740 government pensions, and teachers pensions, that are typically the ones that invest in like large
00:10:20.240 private held companies in Canada. So it's just so bizarre, this, you know, this is a news article,
00:10:27.760 this is written by a straight news reporter, not an, you know, someone doing commentary, not a
00:10:34.120 opinion piece, not an analysis. But they just write, write that in, like, everybody knows everybody
00:10:40.700 at the CBC is like common wisdom at the CBC that you cannot private healthcare, because some people
00:10:45.540 will get what they want, others will have to wait, and investors will profit. It's like just such a
00:10:50.540 communist mentality. Okay, this article is almost done. Just finish it up here. It says,
00:10:55.560 this is something that disincentivizes us from fixing what's wrong with our existing
00:10:59.880 publicly funded healthcare system, says Everhart, the assistant professor of geography at the
00:11:05.020 University of British Columbia, facing a seven month wait to begin hormone treatment with worsening
00:11:10.560 mental healthcare. Sparrow decided to go to Foreo. Within a few weeks, he had a prescription for
00:11:15.320 testosterone. I'm lucky enough to have been able to afford it. But I'm very disappointed that it's not
00:11:20.400 already covered. This is life saving care. And I will be honest that I don't think I would be here
00:11:26.840 today without it. So there you have it. The tried and true, the favorite tactic of the political left,
00:11:35.640 if you don't give me what I want, I will kill myself or these people will kill ourselves. We hear this 0.99
00:11:40.400 argument over and over and over again. So I wanted to sort of take a step back and just sort of,
00:11:48.960 you know, go through some of these arguments that we see first. Within this CBC article,
00:11:54.720 there were a couple of clips embedded. So I do want to show you them just because it shows you
00:11:58.780 they, you know, they wrote this article and then they simultaneously also did a video segment where
00:12:04.700 they interviewed a teen from Alberta to talk about the troubles that that teen had in basically getting
00:12:11.420 access to the care that they wanted, getting access to the sex change operation that this teen was 1.00
00:12:16.780 after. So first I'll play the clip. This is the teen complaining about the onerousness of having to
00:12:22.460 speak to a doctor before getting the drugs that he was after, she was after. Play that clip. 0.90
00:12:28.680 It was like, um, asking me really weird questions. Like what if I wanted to get pregnant someday?
00:12:33.340 What if I had a husband someday? I think he asked me like, what if you want to keep your boobs? Like, 0.98
00:12:40.300 it was so weird and invasive. We just wanted a referral to a gender clinic. Just a referral was 0.99
00:12:45.500 all that we wanted. And then it would be out of his hands. He refused to do that for us.
00:12:49.720 Well, good. He, I'm glad he refused to do that. It sounds like a common sense doctor there talking
00:12:54.400 to a confused young teenager, uh, walking through the future risks because we know that so many of
00:13:00.880 these children who undertake these life changing surgeries and procedures live to regret it. And when
00:13:06.080 they're 20, 25, 30 years old, and they do, it turns out, it turns out that they weren't, they don't want
00:13:11.980 to be a man anymore. They want to be a woman. They want to have children. They want to be able to
00:13:16.820 fulfill their duties as a, as a human being and procreate. And they realize they can't because
00:13:22.940 they've had their uterus removed or they've been sterilized. So a doctor asking a child, just very 0.76
00:13:27.820 common sense questions like, think about your future. Do you really want to carve up your body? Do you
00:13:32.180 really want to lose your breasts? What if you want to have children in the future? I mean, 0.82
00:13:35.160 those sound like really very decent and important questions to ask this child. And you can tell that
00:13:41.720 the child there is saying like, how dare he asked me that question? Like I saw this trend on TikTok
00:13:47.420 and I want to do it. And I'm here to get my referral, give me my drugs. Don't ask me questions, shut up and
00:13:52.900 just do what I want. And it's actually kind of surprising that the CBC did that interview, conducted it 0.96
00:13:58.620 and then aired it. Because when you, when, when I watch that clip, I see a petulant child who is very
00:14:04.900 confused, not someone who I think it's like absolutely like life threatening that we indulge
00:14:12.000 this child and change and give, give this child the sex change operation. I mean, it's pretty wild.
00:14:17.620 Okay. I'll play one more clip. This is of the CBC's journalists. This person is a journalist
00:14:22.240 talking about how important these sex change operations are and how they can be life saving.
00:14:29.300 Let's play that clip. Trans youth say gender affirming healthcare can be life saving. But 0.98
00:14:34.240 depending on where you live in Canada, it's hard to get. And the wait can be years long. But there
00:14:38.640 are healthcare providers across the country providing this kind of care. They want to make it easier for
00:14:43.420 kids and teens to get it. So that is a journalist. She comes across as an activist. She comes across as 0.88
00:14:49.780 someone who is in a commercial trying to promote this butchery, but she's actually a journalist.
00:14:55.460 And that was her online news segment that she did. So that's, that's what we're dealing with here,
00:15:00.560 folks. That's, that's the state of journalism in Canada. And one final clip. This is a doctor that
00:15:06.420 was interviewed, giving the claim again, that these kids will kill themselves if you don't give them
00:15:12.620 what they want. So let's play that clip. Affirming care is sort of a bigger term, but it really
00:15:16.640 means, you know, meeting the kid where they are. That's what endocrinologist Dr. Daniel Metzger wants
00:15:22.080 to do. Metzger co-authored a new position statement by the Canadian Pediatric Society, endorsing affirming
00:15:28.920 care for transgender and gender diverse kids and teens. They have no legal support, but they also have
00:15:33.900 no medical support in some places. Or if they had medical support, it's been taken away.
00:15:37.080 So, you know, the unfortunate fact is that the suicide rate amongst trans youth is the highest
00:15:45.020 of all. That goes down very rapidly once a child is just talks to one grownup in charge and says,
00:15:52.520 yeah, we believe you. Let's help you out. Metzger says many kids and teens are only interested in
00:15:57.920 social transition, changing their appearance or their name. So that's not true. That last line about
00:16:04.340 how most of these kids are not interested in any kind of medical intervention. All they want is
00:16:09.180 just to talk to an adult who will understand and they just want to like change their appearance and
00:16:14.120 go by a different name. That's obviously not the case because if that was the case, then we wouldn't
00:16:18.800 be having this discussion. Then Daniel Smith's policies about banning surgeries and hormone treatments,
00:16:24.000 they wouldn't have cared. If the biggest issue, most of these kids just simply wanted to go by a
00:16:28.920 different name at school, that's one thing. That's one thing. But what we're talking about
00:16:32.780 is these interventions, is the surgeries and the hormones, and that's why they're up in arms.
00:16:37.220 So they can't simultaneously say like, most kids don't even want the drugs. They don't even want
00:16:41.500 the surgeries. And then when a politician says, okay, fine, we're not going to allow really good,
00:16:46.340 good that they don't want them because we're not going to allow them. And then they all like scream
00:16:49.620 and pull their hair out and say that it's, you know, a dictatorship. It's like, because the first
00:16:54.040 statement isn't true. So I just want to quickly go through this claim, this idea that if you ban
00:17:02.300 kids from getting these surgeries and taking these hormone drugs, it puts their lives at risk because
00:17:07.800 you do a little digging and you find, you know, Dr. Jordan Peterson, I shared this in my show earlier
00:17:12.700 this week, he said there's not a shred of clinical evidence to support this claim. And yet you'll see
00:17:17.220 that almost every article, almost every like, even just a tweet of people condemning Daniel Smith's
00:17:23.480 policy, they always note this statistic that kids will kill themselves. It's a threat. It's used as a
00:17:30.500 tactic. They will kill themselves. You don't give them what they want. So you have to give them what 1.00
00:17:33.320 they want. Well, when we look at the actual statistics, this is from an organization called
00:17:38.620 statsforgender.org. We learned that there is little evidence that medical transition decreases
00:17:43.940 suicidality. When it comes to gendered for children, there is little evidence that medical transition
00:17:49.780 decreases suicide rates. There's little evidence to assert that puberty blockers are necessary to
00:17:54.280 prevent surgery. So I'll just quickly read here. It says after sex reassignment surgery,
00:17:58.860 one study showed that adult transsexual clients were 4.9 times more likely to have made a suicide
00:18:05.200 attempt and 19.1 times more likely to have died from suicide after adjusting for prior psychiatric
00:18:12.100 comorbidity. Similarly, an Australian paper notes that many patients have poor outcomes, which puts them
00:18:18.600 at risk of suicide. That means that the surgeries get botched. I covered that on my last show as well.
00:18:23.360 Surgeries get botched. These people are in chronic pain as a result, and that puts them in a higher
00:18:28.860 risk of suicide. A prominent study claiming that medical transition alleviated suicidality had to
00:18:34.260 be corrected to clarify that it proved no advantage of surgery in this regard. A long-term Swedish study
00:18:40.020 finds that post-operative transgender people have considerably higher risks of suicide behavior.
00:18:47.660 Okay, so literally the opposite of what these people are claiming. Finally, a study from the European
00:18:53.100 Journal of Endocrinology demonstrates that suicide rates among transgender male to females were 51% higher
00:19:00.320 than the general population. So anytime you hear someone say that these kids will kill themselves if
00:19:07.740 you don't let them have these surgeries, just share these statistics. Share these statistics. Let them know
00:19:12.540 that this is not true. That the kids don't end up not killing themselves because they get affirmed and they
00:19:20.140 get this health care. It's the exact opposite. We have studies and we have the numbers to prove it.
00:19:25.620 And look, to another point, and again, I made this point in my last episode of my show, which is that
00:19:32.040 80% of children who suffer from gender dysphoria end up going back to wanting to be their original
00:19:38.820 biological sex post-puberty. So this is a stage that kids go through. It's very uncomfortable. It's very awkward.
00:19:46.740 A lot of the children that suffer from gender dysphoria have other issues and other illnesses.
00:19:52.080 A lot of them suffer from mental health. A lot of them are on the autism spectrum, something that we
00:19:56.500 don't often talk about as well. But 80% of them end up going back to wanting to be their original
00:20:01.700 biological sex. And many of them end up just being gay or lesbian as well. And so the idea that we need
00:20:08.460 to indulge these children and give them life-altering medications, in some cases surgery as a solution,
00:20:14.800 and the CBC advocates, like, it's absolutely urgent. We have to do it now. And if we don't,
00:20:19.800 the kids will die. Like, none of that is true. It's all propaganda. It is absolute ideological
00:20:25.100 nonsense. And people need to reject it. People need to learn the facts and they need to reject it. 0.72
00:20:30.120 It is the role of parents and adults in our society to help children, to help them understand the world,
00:20:35.580 to help them guide through difficult decisions and difficult stages of their life. And it is not helpful
00:20:41.800 to indulge these children in delusions, in fantasies. It is not helpful to politicize them
00:20:46.960 and make them political bonds and political tools to fight against your chosen political adversary.
00:20:53.900 And what the CBC is doing here, this is not journalism. Like, every aspect about this is silly 0.65
00:20:59.520 and farcical and obviously agenda-driven, but it's also terrible. Like, this is not based on the truth.
00:21:06.900 This is not based on anything honorable. They are pushing a twisted ideology that actually leads to
00:21:12.320 more pain and more suffering in our society that takes confused children and manipulates them 0.97
00:21:20.680 and leads them to wanting to destroy their own bodies, to prevent them from having children in the 0.97
00:21:27.420 future. Like, everything about this is just so terrible. Like, I would usually laugh during Vake News Friday
00:21:32.660 and say, like, how silly is this news story? We should all make fun of the CBC. But this is far worse.
00:21:37.980 This is poisonous. This is cancerous. And this is just one other reason that we seriously need to get rid of
00:21:43.560 the CBC. This organization needs to be defunded once and for all. What they do is not journalism.
00:21:48.520 It is activism and it is bad for our country. It's bad for society. Bad for the world. And especially
00:21:55.200 bad for people who read it and digest it and consume it and believe that it is true. I'll leave
00:22:00.680 it at that. Thank you so much for tuning in. Have a wonderful weekend. It's Fake News Friday. I'm
00:22:04.440 Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.