Juno News - DEFUND Foreign Aid

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Happy Friday, everyone. We have a

00:00:12.600 great show put together for you today. We're going to be joined in a little bit by Preston Manning to

00:00:17.660 talk about Canada and the future of North America. Before we get to that, I just have to tell you

00:00:23.720 about this unbelievable story that is breaking overnight and has been uncovered by the many,

00:00:30.740 many wonderful people on the internet that exposes one thing, that our government is lying to us.

00:00:36.640 So they're taxing Canadians, they're taxing more than ever, taking more and more of our hard 0.93

00:00:42.020 earned money away, and they're wasting it on programs that are patently ridiculous and woke 0.83

00:00:48.300 and absurd, even for this liberal government. And of course, as soon as Canadians start to 0.74

00:00:55.680 notice this ridiculous waste, the government tries to back down, try to hide their scandal

00:01:00.940 spending and try to lie about what it is that they found. Well, not so fast because we are 0.88

00:01:06.820 onto them. So here's what happened. It started when Conservative MP and from Calgary Shoe 0.54

00:01:12.780 Majumdar, posted the following on X. This happened yesterday afternoon at around 149 Eastern on

00:01:19.780 Thursday. And he wrote this. NDP liberals have wiped Global Affairs Canada's project database

00:01:26.420 clean, hiding where your taxpayer dollars are going. What was once public is now erased.

00:01:33.600 No transparency, no accountability. Really, truly unbelievable. And so to that tweet,

00:01:40.520 I asked the following question. I said, what kind of crazy, woke nonsense are they funding 0.87

00:01:47.720 and trying to hide? Well, at 2.10 p.m. yesterday, our friends over at Canada Proud

00:01:54.220 posted this story as news. This is what they wrote. Breaking. Global Affairs Canada has suddenly

00:02:01.900 wiped their entire public database of foreign aid spending, and the data is no longer available

00:02:08.340 to the public. This is a big deal, folks. This is a big story. So two hours later, two hours after

00:02:16.420 Canada Proud posted that, two hours, two and a half hours after Shubh Mijamdar posted on X,

00:02:22.420 this is at 4.19 p.m. Eastern Time yesterday, Development Canada, which is the Department

00:02:29.140 of Global Affairs Canada's X account dedicated to international development. Well, this is what

00:02:35.820 they posted to try to clarify the matters. They wrote, Global Affairs Canada's project browser

00:02:41.940 is currently experiencing technical difficulties and we are working to resolve this issue.

00:02:47.640 The claims that it was taken down on purpose are false. Okay, convenient timing, wouldn't you say?

00:02:57.080 At a time when Elon Musk is exposing the absolute rot and ideological radicalism of the programs

00:03:04.900 over at USAID, suddenly the Canadian equivalent just happens to have technical difficulties and

00:03:12.640 their website is down. And this is when everything starts to backfire on the Canadian government and

00:03:19.380 its woke department of global affairs. You see, when a community note was later slapped on that

00:03:26.360 Canada Proud post, which by the way was going viral, it now has over 1.1 million views. Well,

00:03:32.560 that community note, which you can see here, posted a link to the correct website containing

00:03:40.160 all the information that we were looking for. And folks, this is why I just love the internet.

00:03:47.480 Because as soon as that community note was slapped on to try to correct the record and say it was all

00:03:52.100 just misinformation, well, as soon as we got that link, the internet sleuths went to work. And I

00:03:58.460 love this. Dozens of independent citizen journalists jumped into action and began uncovering the crazy

00:04:05.920 woke nonsense. And oh, is there a lot of it. So just a sample of the craziness that we are

00:04:12.860 funding with our tax dollars under the guise of foreign aid, $7.2 million for gender responsive

00:04:20.260 health care in the Philippines. A billion dollars to the Gates Foundation's Vaccine Alliance.

00:04:27.340 44 million dollars to a climate food system fund in Luxembourg. 10 million dollars for abortions

00:04:35.900 in London, England. Oh my goodness. 13 million dollars for a rehab center in Bangladesh. Those

00:04:43.020 are just a few of the dozens and dozens of examples and we'll get to more. I promise as

00:04:48.240 True North's Clayton Demain dug up. We also give over a million dollars a year to the BBC,

00:04:54.980 to Britain's state broadcaster. I guess bribing the journalists in Canada wasn't enough for the

00:05:00.260 Justin Trudeau government. So they have to bribe the British state broadcaster. It makes no sense.

00:05:06.760 And again, there's so much more, which we will get to in a minute. But first, let me just say

00:05:11.000 that in an attempt to do damage control, Global Affairs handed us a link to the database of all 1.00

00:05:17.840 the incredible, stupid, wasteful, perverse, and absolutely idiotic things that they are spending 1.00

00:05:24.540 our money on. Now we have the list, we have the database, and all we have to do is defund it. 1.00

00:05:31.480 And that is why today I am calling on the government to defund foreign aid, defund

00:05:37.020 Development Canada, Global Affairs' foreign aid program that has been exposed as nothing more

00:05:42.980 than embarrassing and wasteful

00:05:45.340 and an arm that promotes a twisted, woke agenda 0.93

00:05:48.260 all over the world.

00:05:49.820 Defund the entire Global Affairs Canada's

00:05:52.540 Department of International Assistance,

00:05:55.080 which has wasted over $52 billion

00:05:58.060 from the fiscal year 2017 to 2023.

00:06:02.340 My goodness, that money should be spent in Canada, 0.85

00:06:05.740 not on these ridiculous programs. 0.94

00:06:07.800 So folks, help me send this message to our elites.

00:06:10.740 Head on over to my website right now,

00:06:12.660 www.candicemalcolm.com and sign this petition. Let's end the wasteful spending and the ridiculous

00:06:20.840 propaganda and stop pushing this twisted woke ideology on the world's poor and needy. Again,

00:06:28.600 head on over to my website, candicemalcolm.com, sign the petition. We're going to send this

00:06:34.340 message. Enough is enough. Okay. We don't want to fund this stuff anymore. We don't like the ideas.

00:06:39.640 we don't like the ideology, we don't want to do woke anymore, and we certainly don't want to be

00:06:44.400 promoting this all over the world. It really is embarrassing. It's embarrassing, folks. This is

00:06:49.140 what people all over the world will come to know Canada for, that Canada is the country that still 0.99

00:06:54.640 believes in this ridiculous, perverse nonsense. So I'm going to show you the link to the actual 0.91

00:07:02.400 website that I'm talking about. Sean, if we can pull that up for a second, let me just find it

00:07:10.140 here. This is the website that I'm talking about. And if you just take a look at the kinds of things

00:07:15.900 that they are funding, even just the way they describe themselves, right? Canada's effort to

00:07:20.640 address global issues. So the purpose of this department are actions to promote human dignity

00:07:26.120 and a more just, inclusive, sustainable, and safe world, okay?

00:07:32.460 So the purpose is diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:07:35.620 And they're promoting this all over the world on behalf of Canada.

00:07:39.920 Throw that back up, Sean.

00:07:41.440 Just look at some of the things that they are doing.

00:07:44.800 Canada's, the most requested right here on the right-hand side, you can see it.

00:07:48.900 Canada's feminist international assistance policy.

00:07:53.560 i mean is anybody else sick and tired of this stuff this is not how i want to be represented

00:08:00.700 this is not how i want people to think about canadians that we're pushing woke intersectional

00:08:06.920 feminist nonsense enough is enough we really need to defund this entire department um and i hope 1.00

00:08:13.760 you'll sign my petition so we can so we can send this message to the elites to the conservatives

00:08:18.680 to the liberals whoever's going to be the next prime minister whoever's going to win the next

00:08:22.340 election, they need to put this in their sights and just get rid of it. Enough is enough. Just 0.93

00:08:28.560 pull the plug. Do what Elon Musk is doing. They're creating a perfect model and example for us, and

00:08:34.060 we should do the exact same thing. So I want to highlight some of these wonderful sleuths, the

00:08:39.680 citizen journalists, the independent journalists on X. So there's one account here called vote

00:08:45.220 canada.com and they shared an archive snapshot of the database giving plenty of examples 75

00:08:53.780 million dollars for an inclusive economic recovery uh 751 000 for a community approach

00:09:02.560 to gender equitable education 7.2 million dollars for those gender reassignment surgeries in the

00:09:08.580 philippines another wonderful account here called freedom of goose you got to follow this guy he is

00:09:13.940 hilarious. He writes, you dumbasses think you are smart by deleting access to the international 0.98

00:09:18.880 funds section on Canada.ca. Well, you're not that bright. I got the whole data dump into a 1.00

00:09:25.280 spreadsheet, be quick and smart next time. And so that account continues to give more information

00:09:32.060 of just the kind of things that we have seen. There's a 91% spending increase in international

00:09:38.920 assistance between 2021 and 2023. So help me understand why they're doubling their budget

00:09:46.580 at a time where Canadians are struggling. Canadians are using the food bank at record

00:09:52.040 numbers. Canadians, more and more Canadians, more than half the country is less than $200 away from

00:09:57.340 not being able to pay their bills. And we have something like 40% of Canadians are worried that

00:10:03.620 if there's an interest rate hike increase, interest rate increase at the banks, they won't be able to

00:10:08.400 before their mortgage is anymore, and they might lose their house. And meanwhile, we have our

00:10:12.200 foreign aid budget doubling in that exact same time. It makes no sense. I'll continue reading

00:10:17.520 here. Ukraine has received the most of any country with $5.8 billion in funds, $5.8 billion

00:10:25.040 between 2017 and 2023, $18 billion going to Africa during that same time. Another one of these 1.00

00:10:33.420 great YouTube, or sorry, X accounts, you should follow, TableSalt13, writes that there has been

00:10:40.620 a $10 million contribution for something called Actions Buy-in for Women to Adapt Climate Change

00:10:48.500 from Global Affairs Canada, that $44,000 climate fund in Luxembourg. And Ryan Gerritsen, another

00:10:55.300 great X account to follow, writes that our government has given Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance

00:11:01.340 founded by the Gates Foundation, almost a billion dollars. It truly, truly is unbelievable.

00:11:08.460 And, you know, you look down at what's happening with Trump in the States and Elon Musk, sorry,

00:11:12.720 with President Trump, President Trump and his efforts to basically just get rid of so much

00:11:19.000 wasteful spending that's happening in the United States and see and seeing what Elon Musk has come

00:11:23.800 up with. Elon Musk has basically recommended that they completely defund USAID. Like he said,

00:11:29.740 you know, you're looking for a few worms in a bad apple, and then you open it up and it's all

00:11:34.660 worms. There's no apple. It's just all worms. And you have to get rid of all of it. So there's been

00:11:38.860 a lot of really funny stories that have been making the rounds. In the US, you know, you had

00:11:44.360 $15 million for condoms to the Taliban. This is through USAID. $400,000 to promote atheism in

00:11:53.100 Nepal, uh, $47,000 transgender opera to Columbia from the state department, $32,000 LGBTQ comic

00:12:02.940 book in Peru, $70,000 for an Irish musical promoting DEI, um, and, uh, not to be outdone

00:12:11.340 has $7 million for a BIPOC speaker series in Canada. That was all funded by the Americans.

00:12:18.360 no wonder they're getting rid of their program. And, you know, it really is more than enough

00:12:24.980 evidence that we need to do the same. Say it one final time, head on over to my website,

00:12:28.920 CandiceMalcolm.com, sign that petition, help me send the message that we need to defund foreign 1.00

00:12:34.000 aid in our country. Okay, I want to show one clip before I get to Preston Manning. And this is of

00:12:40.140 Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau was speaking at a Black History Month reception in Ottawa,

00:12:45.500 And things got a little weird. This is this is Justin Trudeau, I guess, letting his hair down in his last few days of work as prime minister of this country. And let's play that clip.

00:12:55.980 One of the things that comes with knowing that you're on a countdown clock to your last day means you get to be really ruthless about the things you want to do and the things that you don't want to do.

00:13:11.240 so there it is folks i guess be prepared uh trudeau is going to get ruthless i wonder what

00:13:20.460 uh he thinks the last nine years have been like now i guess he's going to show us what he really

00:13:25.060 believes what he really wants to do uh probably won't be defunding foreign aid but that's okay

00:13:29.640 because he'll be gone soon enough and hopefully the next government uh will listen okay let's get

00:13:35.020 to the big interview i recorded this earlier uh with preston manning um and for those of you who

00:13:40.640 don't know, Preston Manning is the founder and leader of the Reform Party, which was active in

00:13:45.860 Canada from 1987 to 2000. He represented the constituency of Calgary Southwest in the House

00:13:51.960 of Commons from 1993 until 2002. He served as the leader of the opposition from 1997 to 2000,

00:14:00.500 and then he founded the Manning Foundation for Democratic Education. He's really just an

00:14:06.900 absolutely incredible leader in Canada. We have so much that we can learn from him. And even,

00:14:11.860 you know, in his retirement, he's still active in government. He recently chaired

00:14:15.500 the review of Alberta's COVID-19 response and the National Citizens Inquiry. Did an incredible job.

00:14:22.720 We get to all of it. This is really a wonderful interview. We talk about North America, about

00:14:27.140 Trump. We talk about energy security and national security, the things that Canada needs to do if

00:14:32.300 we're a serious country, if we wanted to take seriously our sovereignty and our independence,

00:14:37.640 these are the things we need to do. And then later in the interview, we talk about the COVID

00:14:42.320 response, how it diminished trust in institutions, and what Preston thinks that Canadians can do

00:14:47.620 to fight back and to restore faith in our institutions. It's a great interview,

00:14:51.580 and it was really my pleasure to conduct it. So without further delay,

00:14:55.840 I will show you this interview now with myself and Preston Menn.

00:15:02.300 Preston, thank you so much for joining the podcast.

00:15:05.380 Yes, good to talk to you.

00:15:07.620 It's great to see you and really looking forward to this conversation.

00:15:11.280 So first of all, let's start with Donald Trump and the tariffs that he threatened and then reversed.

00:15:17.700 So, you know, right off the top, what is your takeaway on all of this?

00:15:21.300 Well, I think it's necessary to go back to square one.

00:15:25.460 And what was the first instance in which he even mentioned tariffs on Canada and Mexico?

00:15:33.160 This goes back to November 2019 when he was president the first time.

00:15:39.260 And he mentioned tariffs as a threat to try to get Canada and Mexico to be serious about stopping the illegal movement of people and drugs across the border into the United States,

00:15:54.980 from canada and mexico that was what the threat was linked to so it seems to me the starting point

00:16:02.340 and premier smith has made this point over and over again would be to tighten up the border and

00:16:08.660 stop illegal movement of drugs and people across that border from canada or anything connected

00:16:15.060 with it and if the prime minister and the premiers are getting together the first thing on their

00:16:20.100 agenda should not be talking about tariffs it should be talk here's what we are going to do

00:16:26.180 here's what we are doing to stop that illegal movement of of drugs and people and i think this

00:16:34.580 business of getting off onto the tariff thing when when the it was the illegal movement of drugs and

00:16:39.780 people that was the thing that triggered this is a big mistake well certainly and i mean we saw

00:16:46.180 everybody jump into action. So going back to last Saturday, when Trump came out and said, yes,

00:16:51.880 it's going to be a 25% tariff, 10% on energy, which I think you can credit that to Danielle

00:16:57.420 Smith and the advocacy diplomacy that she did, that oil was only going to be 10%, everything 0.87

00:17:04.020 else was 25%. Trudeau instantly jumped in and said that they were going to retaliate with our own

00:17:09.280 25%. Now, luckily, we avoided all that, or at least for now, because Trump did just say that

00:17:13.920 it's a 30-day pause, and that we'll be revisiting it in March. By then, I think we'll have a new

00:17:20.260 Prime Minister, Preston. But I want to point to your essay that you wrote in the National Post

00:17:26.440 on January 30th, where you said Canada's response to Trump needs common sense, not mindless hysterics.

00:17:33.280 So I think you said that the political and media establishment got off on the wrong foot

00:17:39.580 by responding foolishly rather than sensibly now I just want to read a

00:17:44.020 little bit from this because I think you make such a good point here that is not

00:17:47.200 being made elsewhere you wrote that Trump is a businessman and a dealmaker

00:17:51.280 common sense further suggests bringing a positive response to an item which

00:17:56.140 clearly is on Trump's agenda which also happens to be very much in Canada's

00:18:00.500 interest energy security this is a subject dear to Trump's heart referenced

00:18:05.320 his inaugural address and a front on which canada can lead with its strengths not its fears and

00:18:11.480 then you go on to say um thus surely common sense suggests that the most important component of

00:18:16.600 canada's response to trump to the trump administration should be making north america

00:18:21.080 more self-sufficient especially with respect to energy i didn't hear very many people making this

00:18:26.840 case in this point um but it's it's so obvious that canada and the united states need to be

00:18:32.280 energy secure so why don't you elaborate on that a little more and yes from Canada's standpoint

00:18:37.280 what is the one front on which we are stronger and bigger than the United States it's not

00:18:43.860 population that we they got a bigger population than us it's not financial resources they got

00:18:49.320 more financial resources than us it's not we don't have the smartest government that's certainly the

00:18:54.000 case but what we do have because we're the second largest nation on the face of the earth area wise

00:19:01.820 We have the largest or second largest stock of natural resources.

00:19:07.940 That is Canada's strength.

00:19:10.280 And it seems to me the second item on any agenda in dealing with the United States after cleaning up this border question is to say,

00:19:20.000 what can we do to make North America more sufficient, self-sufficient, which is what Trump has talked about, and particularly self-sufficient in energy.

00:19:31.120 And that's an area where we lead with our strengths, not our weaknesses.

00:19:36.880 Ontario, Quebec and BC particularly have a capacity to export much more electricity to the United States.

00:19:44.720 Alberta and Saskatchewan, of course, have the petroleum resources.

00:19:49.040 Ultimately, no matter what Trump says, North America will not be self-sufficient in petroleum without the exploitation of the Athabasca oil sands.

00:19:58.640 So that's our strength. And so it seems to me if we're developing an agenda for talking to Trump, and you notice in his interviews, he uses the word deal about every five minutes. Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal on Gaza. Let's make a deal in the Ukraine. Let's make a deal. He's a deal maker.

00:20:18.620 So our second item, if we want to lead with our strengths, seems to me to be on this area of energy self-sufficiency in which Canada's got a great deal to offer.

00:20:29.480 And let's not talk about tariffs.

00:20:31.040 Let's talk about how to make this continent energy self-sufficient.

00:20:34.540 This is getting, I'm showing my age on this, but the first time I heard the phrase continental energy security was from J. Howard Pugh with the Sun Oil Company back in the early 1960s.

00:20:49.280 Pugh developed that first oil sands plant in Fort McMurray.

00:20:54.040 He was 80 years old at the time.

00:20:55.980 He was one of the richest men in the United States.

00:20:58.600 You might ask him, what is this old guy doing up in Fort McMurray?

00:21:03.580 He didn't need the money, and the Sun Shipbuilding Company manufactured a lot of the tankers

00:21:13.840 that were used to haul oil in the First and Second World War.

00:21:20.140 Pew was familiar with how many of those tankers had been sunk by submarine traffic and so

00:21:25.080 forth, and he was convinced that North America was vulnerable from an energy standpoint,

00:21:31.620 particularly a petroleum standpoint.

00:21:33.240 was going to go let the Texan boys go and find the conventional oil. He was going to go find the

00:21:38.120 unconventional oil and develop it. So this is a subject that's been around for a long, long time

00:21:44.280 and it seems to me it's very much in Trump's mind and it's something that Canada should cater to.

00:21:49.400 It ought to be the second item on our agenda in talking with them.

00:21:52.520 Well, I agree that the most important issue is immigration and cleaning up the drugs. I know 0.99

00:21:58.280 I know that Pierre Polyev has tried to hit that straight on with declaring that he would impose life sentences upon fentanyl dealers and kingpins in the drug war.

00:22:09.660 But when it comes to energy security, Preston, I want to ask you, because if it was an easy solution, I think we would have done it already.

00:22:15.880 Obviously, Justin Trudeau's priority and agenda was towards the environment and making sure that everything was green.

00:22:22.860 But it's led to a point where Canada now imports oil from the United States, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria that were not energy sufficient, even in our own country, let alone as a continent.

00:22:34.100 So what like how can we how can we fix this and how can we actually make it so that we don't have to import oil?

00:22:39.900 Well, first of all, we have to permit and encourage pipeline development in this country to be able to get Western resources to eastern Canada.

00:22:48.740 This has been stalled or objected to or obstructed by the Trudeau government and by the Quebec

00:22:57.780 government, so getting the movement of petroleum in our own country would be an item I think that

00:23:04.500 you're referring to. The other point is that the last people to make these arguments in Washington

00:23:12.420 are the Trudeau gang. Trump thinks of Trudeau as a weak, narcissistic, lame duck leader. He's got no 0.99

00:23:23.700 credibility there. Freeland is, in Trump's view, if he gave any thought to it, is the Canadian

00:23:30.740 equivalent of Kamala Harris. Jolie, as a foreign minister, is considered a joke by our own

00:23:39.140 foreign affairs people, let alone the Americans. Guibault is considered to be a climate change

00:23:47.220 fanatic. These are people that ought to be sent on a cruise to Antarctica for the next six months,

00:23:55.540 and don't let them get anywhere near Washington. This gets back to your point. There needs to be

00:24:02.660 a change of government and get a government that is going to be credible with the Canadian people

00:24:09.560 in dealing with Trump. And the sooner that can happen, the better. But even since all of this

00:24:15.280 news came out and we sort of saw a newfound approach, like it seemed like all the parties

00:24:19.000 suddenly wanted to break down into provincial trade barriers and everybody was suddenly all

00:24:23.540 in favor of trying to figure out pipelines. Even in that scenario, the Quebec premier still came

00:24:29.280 out and said no to Energy East Pipeline. So how do we get something like that approved when you

00:24:35.180 have some sort of veto power by interests in Quebec? Well, I guess maybe the first place is

00:24:42.040 to appeal to Quebec's own interests. Is Quebec interested in exporting more power to the United

00:24:48.920 States as part of the continental energy security? If it wants cooperation from the federal government

00:24:54.320 of the rest of the country with respect to that, then it's going to have to cooperate with respect

00:24:58.100 movement of petroleum. The worry in Quebec is that that government is in a lot of trouble too.

00:25:05.600 If there's an election, provincial election next year, you're liable to get a separatist

00:25:11.380 government elected in Quebec, which is even more opposed to pipeline development. So that's going

00:25:16.760 to be a real internal problem for Canada and the next government, no matter who it is.

00:25:23.140 Further to this idea about resource development, it was interesting, Steve Bannon, who is

00:25:27.500 used to be a close advisor to Donald Trump. He was on with global news. I want to play part of

00:25:33.640 this clip because so Steve Bann, I'll set it up. He's a US media executive, political strategist,

00:25:39.760 former chief strategist for Donald Trump. And he said that Canada and the Arctic has been thrust

00:25:46.760 into the center of a geopolitical war between Russia, China and the United States. And so like,

00:25:52.460 whether we like it or not, Canada is the center of that. And, you know, we may choose to say we

00:25:58.240 don't want to align ourselves with America. But the reality is, if we don't, you know, you have

00:26:03.000 China and Russia knocking at the door. So let's let's play this clip. It's a bit longer. It's 45

00:26:07.820 seconds. But here he is explaining why Canada is so important. China and Russia, the great powers

00:26:15.560 and the United States fighting it out over the Arctic with the vast resources of the Arctic is

00:26:22.220 going to be the new great game of the 21st century canada you are thrust into the middle of that and

00:26:27.020 quite frankly you are the greatest i don't know if target or prize you're you're like asking you

00:26:33.420 you're the great prize of that that is that as you awaken and the geo economically he's saying hey

00:26:39.100 the united states market's so lucrative you're going to have to pay a premium to get through

00:26:43.180 the golden door right canada could be all part of that the geo economics of the of north america

00:26:50.220 combined in the geostrategic interest of north america combined and particularly hemispheric

00:26:54.860 defense all the way from argentina and brazil under bolsonaro all the way up to the canadian

00:27:00.220 arctic is what the first half of the 21st century is going to be about now i think it's interesting

00:27:06.780 because he's talking about it strategically he's being a realist he's not saying that he's not

00:27:11.740 trolling he's not saying like oh we're going to take canada because we want it to be the 51st day

00:27:16.220 He's saying whether we like it or not, this is the future. This is what the 21st century

00:27:20.460 will be about. What's your take on that?

00:27:24.780 Well, I think he makes a very good point. In fact, I think it's been made even more strongly by

00:27:30.700 Mike Waltz, who's Trump's current national security advisor, that the Canadian Arctic,

00:27:40.140 there's other interests. There's the Russian interests and the Chinese interests in that

00:27:44.460 area and so canada's going to have to sharpen up its defense and its development of the arctic

00:27:49.500 another area that's been completely neglected by the by the trudeau government so if we're

00:27:55.260 developing an agenda for talking to the united states now we got to tighten up the borders number

00:28:00.780 one we got the continental energy security and what we can contribute to it number two and number

00:28:08.140 three what are we going to do to beef up our defenses of the canadian arctic i had author

00:28:13.980 and sort of controversial thinker diane francis on the podcast a couple weeks ago now a decade

00:28:19.340 ago she wrote a book called the merger of the century and how it was a business proposition

00:28:23.500 that canada could potentially join in with the united states and what one of the things that she

00:28:28.220 pointed out to me was that canada has failed to develop the north like we don't have seaports we

00:28:33.180 don't even really have roads up there and if you look at the development of alaska and compare it

00:28:38.140 to yukon northwest territories or none of it i mean it's just starkly different the americans

00:28:43.500 have the ability to build and they focus on that and they prioritized it i'm not even talking about

00:28:47.820 military i'm talking about even just communities that we don't really have a lot up there there's

00:28:52.300 not really much that has been built let alone um seaports up there i i wonder like why why do you

00:28:58.060 think that is uh what can canada do to to show that we do have serious sovereignty up there and

00:29:04.700 maybe talk a little bit about canada's military because i know we i think it's it's the goal is

00:29:09.980 supposed to be 2% of GDP to meet our NATO targets. I think Canada barely spends 1.2% of our GDP.

00:29:16.620 Like our military is not a serious force and with all due respect to the men and women who

00:29:22.380 serve and who wear the uniform. I think everyone admits that our military has become a little bit

00:29:28.220 of a joke in recent years. Well that's a huge subject but your first point about there's a need

00:29:35.820 to develop infrastructure into the Arctic, into the Northwest Territories and into the Yukon

00:29:46.220 Territory. Incidentally, the province has done more of that than the federal government has been

00:29:51.100 Alberta. The one big road between Yellowknife and the rest of Canada is from Alberta. It's 600 miles

00:30:00.300 from Yellowknife to Edmonton, it's 3,000 miles from Yellowknife to Ottawa. I think the province

00:30:06.380 has got a lot more to do with developing that infrastructure, but that ought to be a priority.

00:30:12.300 And then the second point you make is very valid, that the Canadian

00:30:17.980 military has been neglected, particularly by the Trudeau administration, so the next

00:30:22.780 administration is going to have to beef that up. I think one lesson from the Second World War,

00:30:27.020 while Canada contributed directly in terms of soldiers and equipment, its biggest contribution

00:30:35.900 was basically made by C.D. Howe in organizing defense production. Canada produced a lot of

00:30:44.380 the equipment and the background materials that were needed by the Allies in order to conduct

00:30:50.460 activities in the second world war and whether particularly nato would accept if if canada's

00:30:58.540 contribution to nato included the direct contributions that they're talking about a

00:31:03.000 percentage of the defense budget but also what can canada contribute in that defense production

00:31:09.500 so supporting its allies with other with equipment and things like that will that be counted as a two

00:31:15.380 percent that's where canada had a strength in the second world war and could be that could be

00:31:20.320 repeated. You need someone like C.D. Howe, though, to do that. And there's nobody like that in the

00:31:25.460 current Liberal government at all. Well, yeah, I mean, Canada does need to focus more on building

00:31:31.600 up its manufacturing base in general. I think that's something that we can take away from these

00:31:35.940 trade threats. I want to go back to this Steve Bannon interview in the Global News report on it.

00:31:41.640 So I'm going to show what that looked like. Their headline says Trump's plan for hemispheric

00:31:45.400 control, Steve Bannon, on why tariffs may only be the start. And they show this sort of scary,

00:31:51.420 ominous picture of Donald Trump pointing to Canada, and it's labeled as MAGA land. They make 0.98

00:31:57.820 it seem kind of dark. But then even if you just listen, Preston, to what Steve Bannon said, he

00:32:04.620 said Canada's a prize or maybe the target. And he was talking about the golden age of America

00:32:10.440 that Trump has promised and said that Canada can be part of it.

00:32:13.160 I think this is complete nonsense. I think this is complete nonsense.

00:32:17.320 The first time Trump mentioned this, he said, well, Canada should be the 51st state with Wayne

00:32:22.040 Gretzky as the governor. It was a joke. It was one of his off-the-cuff jokes.

00:32:29.480 It should have been treated as a joke, saying, haha, that is funny. Let's get on to border

00:32:33.560 security and energy security, but particularly the central Canadian media, the hysteria in

00:32:41.480 the Toronto Star, for example, and central Canadian politicians took this as a serious

00:32:48.580 policy of the Trump government. And I think I've blown it way out of proportion. It's a ridiculous

00:32:56.220 proposition. For one thing, Trump couldn't get it through the US Congress. There's no way that 0.98

00:33:03.540 could happen without getting it through the American Congress. You're not going to get that

00:33:07.300 through the Congress as it's formed now. Secondly, Trump's got to watch it. He's a populist leader

00:33:15.300 who's got a populist base. One of those mistakes populist parties can make, and Western Canada's

00:33:21.140 had more experience and knowledge about this than any other part of North America, is if you get

00:33:26.660 elected as a populist government and get off the agenda that got you elected by ordinary people,

00:33:33.540 You will not be the government very long.

00:33:37.140 And there was nothing in Trump's platform about Canada's a 51st state.

00:33:43.860 There was nothing about the Panama.

00:33:46.240 There was nothing about Greenland.

00:33:48.140 And he has got to watch it.

00:33:50.220 His own voters will say, look, we elected you on issues of affordability and controlling this immigration thing. 0.80

00:33:57.740 Don't stray from that proposition.

00:34:00.880 The other thing, why on earth would Trump want to get a hold of Ken in its current condition?

00:34:06.720 If he did annex it, the first thing he'd have is three separatist movements,

00:34:10.720 a separatist movement in Quebec, a separatist movement in Alberta,

00:34:13.760 and a separatist movement in Newfoundland and Labrador.

00:34:16.480 What American president would ever want to get into that kettle of fish?

00:34:23.440 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:34:24.320 Well, and there'd probably be a separatist movement by the Laurentians

00:34:27.120 to separate from the newly formed North America

00:34:30.040 because they wouldn't want anything to do with it.

00:34:31.580 But the thing that I thought was interesting

00:34:33.520 about what Steve Bannon was saying there

00:34:35.220 was that he wasn't talking about it.

00:34:38.060 I think a lot of the media presented

00:34:41.020 like Trump has this vision

00:34:44.100 and it's all about protectionism

00:34:47.000 and America first and all that kind of stuff,

00:34:50.760 which is true.

00:34:51.840 But Steve Bannon said right in his discussion there

00:34:54.640 that Canada can be a part of it all.

00:34:56.800 So I don't think that he means that from like a sovereignty perspective, like we're going to take Canada.

00:35:01.700 I think he means that Canada can be part of the prosperity, part of the new golden age that Trump wants to build.

00:35:07.360 And we can all be part of this fortress North America.

00:35:10.480 We just need to get ourself in order, get our house in order, mainly with immigration, drugs. 1.00

00:35:18.540 That's an interesting point, Candace, but it bothers me.

00:35:22.180 why does Canada need to be told by an American president what its future is going to be?

00:35:27.360 Why does Canada need some initiative from the United States to restore pride in this country?

00:35:33.280 Where's the capacity to do that ourselves?

00:35:36.540 And one of my concerns about this whole debate is what it says about the state of Canadian democracy.

00:35:43.880 Everything on this agenda we've talked about, beating down internal barriers to trade,

00:35:49.060 strengthening the protection against illegal immigration and importation of drugs, energy

00:35:58.740 security, all of these things have been advocated by Canadians for years, by Canadian think tanks,

00:36:07.020 by Canadian political people, including myself, years and years ago. Why is it that that gets

00:36:14.440 nowhere in our democratic institutions. It does not get a reaction from the current government,

00:36:22.760 it's on another agenda that 50% of the country thinks is nonsense. Why does it take some

00:36:29.640 initiative by an American president to do the things that are self-evidently in our own interest

00:36:34.680 and have been advocated by Canadians for years? I think we've got to pull up our own socks, 0.63

00:36:41.320 restore some pride in their own country, get rid of these anti-Canadian crowd in the universities

00:36:47.800 and the schools that trash Canada every opportunity they get. How are you going to get

00:36:53.260 pride in the younger people in the country in a future vision? I think we've got to pull up our

00:36:58.560 own socks, and we ought not to have to be told to do that by an American president, no matter who he

00:37:06.600 Such a good point. And I agree. When the countermeasures were announced, when Justin Trudeau announced the new measures that he was going to take to secure the border, putting more money on, making sure that we have enough people at the border and all this stuff.

00:37:20.380 It's like, why did this take 10 years? You know, this should have been happening from the beginning, not at the very, very end of his role.

00:37:27.520 Well, that leads me to Justin Trudeau and his decision to resign on January 6th, or at least, Preston, that's what he told us that he was resigning, but he's still around.

00:37:36.140 So he didn't actually resign. He just intended to resign.

00:37:38.380 He prorogued parliament and now they're holding a liberal leadership race so that a prime minister can be selected by an elite few.

00:37:48.000 I mean, I think that the leader has already been selected.

00:37:50.700 I think the banks, the World Economic Forum have already given us the next prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney.

00:37:56.260 But as someone who's been advocating for democratic reform and who's been frustrated with the Canadian political system for decades, what did you think of Trudeau's move that he pulled here in early 2025?

00:38:09.460 Well, it's regrettable because it's crippled the country at the crucial time when it needs strong federal leadership.

00:38:19.740 It's just left the country in limbo. You've got a lame duck prime minister, but still purporting to represent the country.

00:38:28.900 And I'm sure if you could record some of the internal comments that are being made by some of these premiers with respect to whether Justin Trudeau ought to even be convening these conferences, I think it would be pretty revealing.

00:38:43.460 So it's just regrettable that we've got this lame duck situation.

00:38:47.300 what should have happened was they should have recalled parliament. The fact that you've got this

00:38:52.660 whole crisis situation and the parliament isn't even meeting, they should have recalled parliament,

00:38:58.500 the parliament would have moved a non-confidence motion, would be into an election, and that would

00:39:04.340 be the process to decide who should be the next leadership of the country. And I know the leaders

00:39:10.420 they're putting forward Mark Carney, you can imagine what Trump thinks of him,

00:39:15.780 you know, a central banker, an elitist, a snob who has nothing but contempt for the rank and file of

00:39:25.460 people that elected Trump or that will elect the next government in Canada. It's a regrettable

00:39:31.140 situation and the sooner we can get to an election and get a new government, the better.

00:39:36.900 So do you think that the Governor General should have said no to Justin Trudeau's request?

00:39:40.980 Should she have said we're not going to throw?

00:39:43.220 That should have been done. There's actually a precedent for that occurring in the British 0.73

00:39:49.780 Parliament and that would have moved things along further. But of course the Governor General's

00:39:55.700 Trudeau appointment with loyalties to Trudeau and just did what he said.

00:40:01.540 Well, it's really unbelievable that we don't have a say. What about there's a,

00:40:05.940 i don't know if it's a conspiracy theory because i think it's legal and it could happen but there's

00:40:09.700 a theory going around online that there won't be an election in 2025 that there's a that the

00:40:15.940 there's an act an elections canada act that says an election should happen every four years

00:40:19.780 but it's not in the constitution the the law can be changed it can be amended that potentially

00:40:24.340 whoever leads the liberal party presumably mark carney could strike another deal with ndp leader

00:40:28.900 Jagmeet Singh to prolong their time in power, blow past that October 2025 election date,

00:40:35.620 and possibly not have an election for another 18 months. What do you think of that?

00:40:39.700 Well, I think if they resorted to that, it would be a desperation measure which would

00:40:46.660 almost ensure that they're replaced in that election. And I would think members of parliament,

00:40:52.420 particularly NDP and Liberal members that would think twice about getting part of that kind of

00:40:58.840 an operation, they might be guaranteeing the loss of their own seat. I think they might be losing

00:41:04.720 their own seat anyway. I think Canadians are so frustrated at Jagmeet Singh in particular for

00:41:08.860 propping up this government for so long that he's going to lose his seat. So why would he trigger an

00:41:13.440 election if it just means that he's going to basically get fired? I mean, I think that that's

00:41:17.140 That's the concern that these people…

00:41:19.020 But again, you can look at the composition of that current department, 153 Liberals,

00:41:23.940 120 Conservatives, 33 Bloc members, three Independents.

00:41:31.060 The Bloc members and the Independents voting together in a confidence motion would still

00:41:36.420 defeat the government. It's not entirely dependent on Singh, but it's a big mess.

00:41:42.980 Yes. What about this story, Preston? We learned at the end of January that Justin Trudeau is going

00:41:50.640 to fill the Senate vacancies before retiring. So he's planning a final wave of appointments to

00:41:56.840 fill the 10 empty seats in the Senate. The move will allow him to mark on Parliament for years

00:42:02.820 to come with unelected legislatures. I know you've been a critic or at least someone who has advocated

00:42:08.740 for reform when it comes to Canada's upper house, upper chamber. What do you think of this move by

00:42:14.980 Trudeau? That would be regrettable too because that cripples the federal parliament even further.

00:42:21.220 In the end of the day, the House of Commons would have the whip hand over the Senate.

00:42:25.300 The Senate could block legislation from the House of Commons and the House of Commons could pass it

00:42:29.380 again. The Senate can block that, the House of Commons can pass it again. The House of Commons

00:42:34.180 in the end of the day can't have the whip hand. And if the Senate blocked a piece of legislation 0.82

00:42:39.940 three times or four times, unelected people, appointed by a discredited prime minister,

00:42:46.180 that would make life intolerable. I wouldn't want to be one of those senators. But again,

00:42:51.780 it's a shame that it has to come to that kind of a conflict at a time when the federal

00:42:57.380 parliament should be united in getting down to business. Well, especially when we face

00:43:01.700 a situation where we have an unelected Governor General, soon we're going to have an unelected

00:43:07.060 Prime Minister, and we have a new onslaught of unelected legislatures put into the Senate. 1.00

00:43:13.300 I mean, no wonder Canadians are losing faith in these institutions.

00:43:16.900 Yes, and as I come back to, our democratic institutions need to be

00:43:23.060 be strengthened and this current crisis indicates the weakness of those institutions and the fact

00:43:32.520 that it takes some action by an American president to get us dealing with items which our own

00:43:38.040 democratic process should have brought to the top of the agenda and got action on.

00:43:43.340 I want to move on and talk about the Alberta COVID response report. Before we do, I just want

00:43:48.260 to ask you because we haven't really talked about it, but Daniel Smith, I think, has just

00:43:52.400 been doing a tremendous job advocating for Canada. I heard Ezra Levant, he was on Rachel Parker's

00:43:57.860 show the other day here on True North, and he was talking about how he met with Danielle in the midst

00:44:02.600 of her basically back-to-back-to-back-to-back meetings. She rented a hotel room right in

00:44:08.220 Washington, had a conference room, and apparently her staff had, you know, minute-by-minute interview,

00:44:14.220 interview, meeting with different officials, lawmakers, Republican insiders, Republican

00:44:18.380 staffers it sounded incredible i mean just such hard work the fact that trudeau and no one from

00:44:23.380 the federal government was doing that and it fell on a provincial premier uh is remarkable in and of

00:44:28.980 itself um but i i wonder what what do you uh what do you think of the job that danielle's doing 0.79

00:44:34.420 um and uh you know you think she's she's hitting the right marks in what oh yes no i i think she's 0.89

00:44:39.900 been the strongest canadian leader on on the particular points that we should be emphasizing

00:44:45.840 On the border security, she linked that to the tariff issue the way Trump did on the energy security basis.

00:44:56.840 Alberta premiers have often had a good relationship with the Western governors of the United States,

00:45:02.840 who tend to think a lot like we do, and she's been active on that front.

00:45:07.840 So I think she's done a commendable job, and this is a job she never asked for.

00:45:12.840 for. The provincial premier didn't ask to have to get involved internationally with the United

00:45:19.340 States in this way. She never asked for it. But there's a vacuum. This is not being done by the

00:45:24.220 current leader. Our current federal leader is discredited. And so I think she's doing an

00:45:28.800 excellent job. And people should support her. And some of these other premiers ought to support her. 1.00

00:45:34.100 She's providing more leadership than Tudor. And that is self-evident to them at these meetings.

00:45:39.120 So I agree with the approach she's taking and believe she should be fully supported.

00:45:44.580 Well, it seems like some premiers are coming around.

00:45:46.900 When they first initially met with the premiers and Trudeau, they signed a joint statement.

00:45:50.660 Danielle said, no, I'm not signing that.

00:45:52.420 And she was sort of the odd man out.

00:45:53.940 But then, you know, over the course of the next few weeks with her advocacy and Trudeau's sort of vacancy,

00:45:59.520 we saw Saskatchewan come around, even Quebec came around to her perspective.

00:46:03.860 And I think it did win the day.

00:46:05.280 I want to talk about this report also commissioned by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith.

00:46:10.100 So she I think she's one of the only leaders, political leaders in the world to do this sort of introspective look at what happened during COVID.

00:46:19.840 So the Alberta COVID report was commissioned by Smith in 2022 with a mandate to explore the province's response to COVID.

00:46:27.600 The task force included prominent medical professionals, including doctors Gary Davidson, Jay Bhattacharya, who's been appointed into the Trump administration now, and Biriam Brittle.

00:46:37.520 The final report recommends the provincial government stop providing vaccines for healthy children and teenagers.

00:46:44.620 The report revealed evidence to suggest it was not effective.

00:46:47.860 For example, it highlighted that the original Pfizer vaccines did not prevent death compared to the placebo in their clinical trials in any group.

00:46:56.960 Further, the report alleged that Alberta Health Services

00:46:59.640 removed a dashboard after it showed higher hospitalization rates

00:47:03.920 among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

00:47:07.420 It also said there's a lack of reliable data

00:47:09.340 that COVID-19 vaccines protect children from severe cases of COVID.

00:47:13.920 The task force that published the research said

00:47:16.520 that vaccines were not designed to stop transmission.

00:47:19.540 This is all really incredible stuff,

00:47:21.660 things that you could not have even said on YouTube two, three years ago.

00:47:25.160 So now it's out in the open.

00:47:27.080 Again, Alberta is one of the only, if not the only government to do this kind of research and this kind of report.

00:47:32.120 So I wanted to hear your reaction to the report and what you make of it all.

00:47:39.640 Well, first of all, there are two reports that were commissioned by the Alberta government.

00:47:45.580 And I chaired the first one.

00:47:47.060 The first one was called the Public Emergency Governance Review Panel.

00:47:52.120 panel and its instructions were to look at the legislation which authorized the initiatives that

00:47:59.200 were taken by the Alberta government to cope with the COVID crisis and to recommend there's

00:48:04.140 changes in the law that had to be made. That report was done, finished February of 2023,

00:48:13.080 recommended a bunch of amendments to the Public Health Act, to the Education Act, to the Alberta

00:48:17.940 Bill of Rights. It takes forever to get these things through. You have to make a presentation

00:48:23.620 to a cabinet committee. You have to be a presentation to the cabinet. There has to

00:48:27.060 be a presentation to the caucus. That then has to go to the Legal Services Branch of the Justice

00:48:32.260 Department to do the draft legislation, which then has to be checked with the Treasury Branch

00:48:36.500 if it involves spending any more money. But finally, in the fall session, the Alberta

00:48:43.140 government did make a number of those amendments, particularly amendments to the Alberta Bill of

00:48:47.540 rights to tighten up the protection of rights and freedoms by law during a public emergency so that

00:48:54.340 was that report now this report you're talking about was not to look at the legislation it was

00:49:00.500 to look at the data base that informed the decisions of the government during that period

00:49:06.020 and as you mentioned it's it's it's produced a number of it questions the modeling that was

00:49:12.500 done what was the basis that modeling it's it's questioned the validity of masking of the

00:49:19.140 the vaccination program and of the validity and efficacy of the vaccines that were used

00:49:25.140 themselves a whole list of things now the the interesting thing too that that panel had about 12

00:49:32.180 15 basically medical people on it it's been reacted to by the uh college of physicians

00:49:40.660 and Surgeons, which has a list of people with medical credentials. And its report is contrary

00:49:47.380 to what the scientific advisory group of the government that it had at that time. So you have

00:49:52.640 two groups of medical scientists with conflicting views on what should have been done. And the bigger

00:49:58.480 question is, how do you reconcile it? How does a government bring science to bear on a public issue

00:50:05.020 like the COVID issue when there's this conflicting opinion within the science community? And we had

00:50:10.320 a recommendation in that report of ours to address that two recommendations what one is that the

00:50:17.120 the overall coordination of the response to a public emergency like the pandemic should not

00:50:25.680 be assigned to the subject department like the department of health because it's got broader

00:50:30.720 ramifications in health it should be assigned to the alberta emergency management agency that's

00:50:37.040 what it's for. And if it had been responsible, it would have had a lot more than just internal

00:50:42.900 medicine people on that scientific advisory panel. It would have had a psychiatrist, and it would

00:50:50.920 have had people dealing with the mental health impacts. It would have had an economist. It would

00:50:56.620 have had a broader group. And our second recommendation was that that Alberta Emergency

00:51:02.620 management agencies should have a science a senior science advisor whose job is to have an

00:51:09.700 inventory of the science that you need to deal with the issue and who could adjudicate disputes

00:51:15.040 between groups like the panel that was currently done and the people that actually manage the

00:51:22.020 the the crisis so that's a long rambling answer but i think the bigger problem here is that you've

00:51:28.860 got two groups, all with good, to the layman, good scientific credentials, but they don't

00:51:37.800 agree. The College of Physicians and Surgeons has labeled this report as misinformation.

00:51:43.540 So how do you adjudicate that? And our suggestion was with the senior science officer attached to

00:51:50.100 the emergency management agency. Well, I appreciate you laying that all out and

00:51:55.320 explaining the difference between the two reports, but I think both of them had the same goal. And

00:52:00.100 I actually think it's a good thing because the fact that the science doesn't all, scientists

00:52:05.760 don't all agree, doctors don't all agree, that's the reality of the world we live in. And that's

00:52:09.460 the frustration that so many of us had during COVID when people like Justin Trudeau would say,

00:52:14.240 we believe in science and our method is completely science-based. And it's like,

00:52:19.340 well, no, it isn't because we have scientists over here that are saying the exact opposite thing. So

00:52:23.220 I think proving the disagreement and proving that there are different sides was kind of the

00:52:28.000 point. I did want to ask you about the media response, because from my perspective, it was

00:52:31.920 quite hysterical, labeling it disinformation, misinformation, saying these people were

00:52:38.040 anti-science. It brought me back to 2020 and 2021. It was like we were there all over again

00:52:42.520 with all of these people in the media quoting experts, saying that the other side was wrong.

00:52:48.480 uh what what did you think of the media response there yeah well i think it was it's misguided the

00:52:56.720 there were headlines the worst reporting i think on it was by the cbc which is almost hopeless when

00:53:01.760 it comes to reporting anything that's going on in alberta or anything the initiative by

00:53:07.040 premier smith but they had headlines that alberta doctors oppose the panel report that well there

00:53:16.560 There were as many Alberta doctors on the panel as there were with the College of Physicians and Surgeons.

00:53:24.960 That's just nonsense.

00:53:26.540 And what is needed, though, is when there is this conflict, some way of adjudicating it.

00:53:31.580 And somebody with the responsibility to do that.

00:53:33.820 Okay, we've got this group that's saying this and this group saying this.

00:53:36.440 Let's hear the arguments out and see who carries our judgment.

00:53:41.080 And we've tried to provide that mechanism.

00:53:42.760 And that recommendation has not been acted upon yet by the Alberta government, but we're hopeful that it will.

00:53:50.160 Well, it's such a great initiative, and I appreciate you being one of the ones that was spearheading it.

00:53:55.660 President, I want to be respectful of your time, but while I have you, I have to ask,

00:53:59.760 we are just closing up nine, almost 10 years of Justin Trudeau's rule.

00:54:05.160 And I think if you look at public opinion polls, one of the sort of unfortunate, sad things that's happening

00:54:10.520 is that pride in Canada has gone way down.

00:54:13.640 I think only 34% of Canadians now feel a pride in our country.

00:54:17.300 When you look around and you see just everything

00:54:20.800 from crime to homelessness to drug addiction,

00:54:24.680 the cost of living, cost of groceries, cost of gas,

00:54:26.920 the number of Canadians using a food bank,

00:54:28.920 every statistic that you look at economically is bad.

00:54:32.900 I mean, it's a sad state of affairs in Canada, to say the least.

00:54:36.780 I'm wondering what can be done at this point in Canadian history?

00:54:41.180 What's your sort of final assessment of the Trudeau years?

00:54:44.040 And what do you think it's going to take to turn Canada around and turn ourselves into a great country once again?

00:54:50.420 Well, I think this Trudeau year is something, but he's labeled it a lost decade.

00:54:57.620 Canada's lost international prestige.

00:55:01.960 It's lost credibility with the G7.

00:55:04.520 It's lost credibility with NATO.

00:55:06.160 it's lost credibility internationally. But the worst effect is that it's lost its own

00:55:12.880 self-confidence. And I think a major effort needs to be made to restore that. And that's going to

00:55:18.640 be dependent on the next government, which is not going to be, in my judgment, is not going to be a

00:55:24.080 liberal government. And I think there's things individual Canadians can do. When you hear people

00:55:29.840 trashing the country and even ask your school children ask your grandkids i say this to

00:55:36.960 seniors that are going to university if if if they have a professor or a program that is trashing

00:55:44.000 the country protest that this is anti-canadianism try and root out the anti-canadianism from our

00:55:51.280 institutions and one simple practical suggestions i've had to friends is to fly the flag you know

00:55:59.520 When you go to the U.S. and go through the Midwestern towns or even in New England,

00:56:07.520 every eight or nine house has one of these American flags on it. Americans, for all their

00:56:15.440 faults that we continually point out, are basically proud of their own country. One of the ways they

00:56:20.480 show it is to fly the flag. Well, why don't we fly the flag? Why don't we fly the flag? If somebody

00:56:25.040 watching and you're concerned about this anti-Canadian at least fly the flag fly the flag

00:56:30.200 on your house fly the flag on your business fly the flag on your church fly the flag as a symbol

00:56:35.960 that you have pride in what this country is and what it can become and are opposed to anti-Canadianism

00:56:43.940 in all its shapes and forms well I think that's a perfect note to end the interview Preston Manning

00:56:50.240 I really appreciate your time your insights thank you so much for joining the show well thank you

00:56:54.260 very much, Candice. Good to talk to you. Always a pleasure. All right. Thank you so much. Thank

00:56:58.980 you for tuning in. We will be back again on Monday with all of the news. I'm Candice Malcolm. This

00:57:03.200 is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.

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