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Despite what the media tells you, Canada is not a left wing country

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In this episode, Candice explains why Canada is not a left-wing country, and why it's time to abandon the myth that Canada needs to move to the left in order to win elections. In fact, Canada is a conservative country.

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00:00:00.160 Canada at its core is a conservative country. We're not a left-wing country, we're a conservative country.
00:00:05.380 It's time to give up on the myth that conservative parties need to move to the left and become more progressive in order to win elections.
00:00:12.020 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:18.620 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning into the show.
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00:00:36.460 Now if you've been watching The Candace Malcolm Show, you know that we have been doing deep dives into the election,
00:00:41.500 into focusing and digging in on the question of why the Conservatives lost the last election and looking at the various reasons why.
00:00:49.500 Today I want to continue on that path and I want to confront a myth about Canada that I believe harms Conservatives,
00:00:54.880 it harms the country and it really prevents the Conservative Party and Conservative politicians
00:00:59.540 from embracing the policies that matter to Canadians, the policies that matter to Conservatives.
00:01:05.240 So the myth, of course, that I'm talking about is this idea that Canada is some kind of a left-wing bastion,
00:01:10.840 that we're a left-wing country, that we're progressive, we champion left-wing ideals and values,
00:01:15.720 a place where traditional Conservatives are few and far between,
00:01:18.720 and this idea that left-wing parties, woke politicians like Justin Trudeau or in his case fake woke politicians like Justin Trudeau
00:01:25.600 can easily win elections, easily maintain power and in order for a Conservative to win,
00:01:30.900 they have to really heavily water down any aspect of Conservatism.
00:01:34.640 They have to basically run as a Liberal in order to win and that is essentially the strategy that we saw from Aaron O'Toole
00:01:40.460 and that is why he lost the election, that's why he failed and that is a path that we should not go down again.
00:01:45.100 So I really want to hone in on this idea that Canada is a left-wing country
00:01:49.060 because you hear it so much in the media, it is the sort of conventional wisdom among the Laurentian elite,
00:01:55.120 the people who write in newspapers, the pundits, the talking heads on television,
00:01:59.100 they kind of all have the same view, this assumption that Canada is progressive
00:02:02.460 and we have left-wing values and ideals and so there's just not any room for Conservatism in this country.
00:02:08.640 This is a total myth and I'm going to explain why using data, going through the numbers
00:02:12.580 and really explaining and making the case why Canada is actually quite Conservative.
00:02:17.100 So I want to start by reading from an op-ed that was in the Financial Post over the weekend.
00:02:20.540 It was written by Joe Oliver, Canada's former Finance Minister and former Conservative Member of Parliament
00:02:26.160 in the GTA. Joe Oliver served as Finance Minister under the Harper government.
00:02:30.600 So he writes this, he says,
00:02:32.120 Conservatives must persuade the electorate, not pander to the left.
00:02:35.260 And then he writes,
00:02:35.780 Bring the public to you rather than mimic the left-wing's latest fattish ideals and retreated socialist truths.
00:02:41.760 100% true.
00:02:42.800 So he starts by saying Conservative leader Aaron O'Toole's strategy to broaden the Tory base
00:02:47.560 did not achieve the breakthrough he sought.
00:02:49.560 So it's time for a deep dive.
00:02:51.740 First off, 100% agree with that.
00:02:53.100 That is exactly what we've been doing here on the Candace Malcolm Show
00:02:55.860 and I applaud other Conservative thought leaders doing the same thing.
00:02:59.760 So I won't read the whole thing, but Joe Oliver makes the point
00:03:01.760 that so many progressives lead this notion that Canada's a left-wing country
00:03:05.640 and therefore the Conservative Party has to chase moderate values,
00:03:09.040 moderate ideas and policies in order to stand a chance in the election.
00:03:13.180 And he talks about how Aaron O'Toole really should have won this election.
00:03:15.580 That he has a lot going for him, that he has a good speaker,
00:03:17.800 he has a really impressive background, and that he was non-threatening.
00:03:21.600 And really he should have won because Justin Trudeau is such a disastrous Prime Minister,
00:03:25.160 he's so vulnerable.
00:03:26.480 I'll just read this one part about what he says about Trudeau because it's so good.
00:03:29.140 He says he was up against a privileged narcissist who called an unnecessary election
00:03:33.260 during the fourth wave of a pandemic on the day Kabul fell to the Taliban,
00:03:37.540 a Prime Minister twice convicted of ethical breaches,
00:03:39.920 a self-proclaimed feminist and anti-racist who broke faith with women and posed in blackface.
00:03:44.620 So he goes on and on and on to really just eviscerate Justin Trudeau
00:03:47.840 and talk about how O'Toole should have won.
00:03:50.440 And then he stops and says, but he didn't win.
00:03:52.420 And let's talk about why.
00:03:54.200 He writes this,
00:03:54.760 An existential identity debate within the conservative movement has been simmering
00:03:58.480 since the merger of the PC and Canadian Alliance parties.
00:04:01.060 Red Tories argue that because Canada is basically a liberal country,
00:04:04.680 the only route to a majority for a true blue conservative party is a strong showing by the NDP,
00:04:09.880 like Jack Layton's orange wave in 2011.
00:04:13.000 However, a long-term winning strategy cannot be based on the uncertain fortunes of a third party
00:04:17.240 over which conservatives have no control.
00:04:19.620 Therefore, the argument goes, it is crucial to broaden the base by moving to the centre.
00:04:23.440 So Joe Oliver goes on to just refute this idea,
00:04:26.060 saying that the real way that conservatives can win is not to surrender and move to the left,
00:04:30.860 but to try to better articulate conservative values and ideals, which I completely agree with.
00:04:36.800 But the reason I wanted to include that part from Joe Oliver is because he's been working
00:04:40.500 in conservative politics a long, long time,
00:04:42.060 so he better understands the thinking of red Tories and progressive conservatives,
00:04:47.040 particularly because he's a conservative from Toronto.
00:04:50.000 But that prevalent idea among progressive conservatives and red Tories that in order to win
00:04:54.840 as a conservative, it needs to either be one of two things,
00:04:57.680 either one, a very strong showing from the NDP to completely split the left-wing vote,
00:05:01.780 or two, become more left-wing yourself.
00:05:04.620 So just right off the bat, that whole concept,
00:05:06.420 that whole basic underlying theory among red Tories and progressive conservatives,
00:05:10.920 that Canada is a left-wing country, a liberal country,
00:05:13.500 and that you have to either move to the left to win or rely on vote splitting between NDP and liberals.
00:05:20.280 I just want to stop and say that that is not true.
00:05:22.980 That might have been true 10 years ago when Harper won.
00:05:25.820 That might have been one of the reasons why he did so well in the GTA
00:05:29.060 and was able to sweep the areas around Toronto because there is a vote splitting.
00:05:33.860 But I want to stop and look at the state of the country in 2021.
00:05:38.120 Because again, this idea that Canada's moved to the left,
00:05:40.540 that Canada's liberal, Canada's progressive,
00:05:41.920 just because we have a liberal prime minister, Justin Trudeau,
00:05:45.200 who barely wins elections, who hung on by the skin of his teeth in the last election.
00:05:50.200 He had the lowest percentage of vote for a conservative prime minister in Canadian history.
00:05:55.800 So he's not exactly winning with huge majorities here.
00:05:59.100 Justin Trudeau is barely holding on.
00:06:01.120 And if you just do a scan through the Canadian provinces,
00:06:03.700 we're going to go through them right now,
00:06:05.080 because this idea that Canada's a liberal country is easily refutable
00:06:07.960 by simply just looking across the country,
00:06:09.980 looking at the provincial governments and seeing how many of them are led
00:06:13.280 by conservative governments and conservative premiers.
00:06:16.260 So this is, as of now, as of September 2021,
00:06:19.700 eight out of the 10 provinces in Canada,
00:06:21.940 representing 30.38 million people out of Canada's total population of 38 million people.
00:06:28.000 30.38, so 30.4 million people live in a province with a conservative premier.
00:06:35.220 So in Nova Scotia, we have progressive conservative premier, Tim Houston.
00:06:38.680 In Prince Edward Island, we have a progressive conservative premier, Dennis King.
00:06:42.080 In New Brunswick, we have a progressive conservative premier, Blaine Higgs.
00:06:45.620 In Quebec, we have the coalition leader, Francois Legault.
00:06:48.860 Now, Francois Legault may not fit in the same mold as a federal conservative or an Anglo conservative,
00:06:54.140 but within the Quebec context, there is absolutely no doubt that he is a conservative.
00:06:58.640 Just look at his stance on immigration, if you have any doubt.
00:07:01.600 Francois Legault is a Quebec conservative, a French conservative.
00:07:04.780 In Ontario, we have progressive conservative premier Doug Ford.
00:07:08.180 In Manitoba, we had Brian Pallister, the PC premier,
00:07:10.960 who recently stepped down and is replaced by interim premier Kelvin Gortzen.
00:07:16.420 In Saskatchewan, we have the Saskatchewan party,
00:07:18.320 which is basically just a conservative party with Scott Moe.
00:07:21.060 And in Alberta, we have the United Conservative Premier, Jason Kenney.
00:07:25.000 Now, I know you can stop, you can go through any of this list,
00:07:27.760 you can criticize and say they're not true conservatives, they're not conservative enough.
00:07:30.840 That may all be true.
00:07:32.000 That may be part of the problem, which is just that conservative politicians in this province
00:07:35.920 believe that they have to govern from the left or embrace left-wing faddish issues 0.68
00:07:40.860 in order to be popular or maintain power.
00:07:43.620 But just on the surface, the fact that so many premiers,
00:07:46.620 so many provinces are led by people with the conservative title or moniker
00:07:51.020 or at least the understanding that they are the sort of right-of-center political party.
00:07:55.780 I think that in and of itself can't be ignored.
00:07:58.280 And so next time someone says that Canada is a left-wing country,
00:08:00.620 you can just stop and say eight out of the ten provinces have conservative premiers.
00:08:05.780 So right off the bat, not true.
00:08:08.100 We can look at the popular vote in the last two elections.
00:08:10.180 In 2019, conservatives won the popular vote.
00:08:13.500 They had 6.239 million people, 34% of the electorate vote for conservatives.
00:08:19.940 Compare that to the liberals who got 6 million, that's 33%.
00:08:23.260 And very similar outcome in the 2021 general election.
00:08:26.860 The conservatives got 5.7 million votes compared to the liberals, 5.5 million.
00:08:32.160 So conservatives are at 33.7, almost 34%, whereas the liberals were down at 32.6%.
00:08:39.240 So let's just remember that, that there are more people in this country
00:08:42.660 who vote federally for the conservative party than they do for the liberal party.
00:08:46.720 And I know you can stop and say, yes, there are more liberal left-wing voters in Canada.
00:08:51.680 But the important point is that it's not a complete wash.
00:08:54.780 It's not overwhelming one way or another.
00:08:56.780 There are so many people in this country who have conservative values,
00:09:00.360 who have conservative ideas.
00:09:01.480 And it's just so important to keep that in mind when we are getting into elections,
00:09:05.040 when conservative parties are putting together their platform.
00:09:07.360 This idea that Canada is a left-wing country by and large, it's just not proven.
00:09:11.920 It's just, it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny under the data.
00:09:15.580 And so while it's true that there are more progressive voters in the country,
00:09:18.240 just going from the basic assumption that all liberal NDP and green voters are on the left,
00:09:24.240 that's something like 9 million people over there.
00:09:26.300 But then if you add the conservative plus the PPC party on the other side,
00:09:29.940 you're getting close to about 7 million, plus another 1.3 with the bloc,
00:09:33.760 which again, it's not entirely clear whether they are left or right.
00:09:37.040 It's sort of a coalition of both.
00:09:38.260 So I won't include those in.
00:09:39.940 But I'm saying that the numbers are close.
00:09:42.440 They're not as lopsided as you would believe.
00:09:44.340 They're not overwhelming evidence that Canada is a left-wing country.
00:09:47.520 And I still think that there is a lot of opportunity and a lot of chance for growth
00:09:50.800 for a conservative party if they just stopped with the whole idea that you need to water down
00:09:55.680 conservatism to win, if they championed conservative values and ideas.
00:09:59.780 And I want to continue on this theme by going into some public opinion polling
00:10:05.220 and talking about conservative ideas and issues that are not really properly identified
00:10:10.140 and articulated by conservatives.
00:10:12.220 And if they were, it could be even more popular.
00:10:14.900 So I'll start with this one.
00:10:15.840 This was a True North exclusive.
00:10:17.560 We commissioned a scientific poll in the middle of the pandemic last year,
00:10:22.440 asking Canadians about immigration.
00:10:24.020 We found that 76% of Canadians agreed with a total pause on immigration,
00:10:30.000 a complete moratorium on immigration.
00:10:32.260 So this is what it said.
00:10:33.460 Three quarters, 76% of Canadians polled by one, a research company based in Toronto,
00:10:38.220 strongly agree or moderately agree with the statement,
00:10:40.900 Canada should temporarily pause immigration until a vaccine is developed for the coronavirus
00:10:45.480 and the unemployment rate drops to pre-coronavirus levels.
00:10:49.680 And so even when you break that one down by party affiliation, 67% of liberals agreed with a pause
00:10:55.580 on immigration, 89% of conservatives agreed, and 66% of the NDP agreed with something that is
00:11:02.240 fundamentally a very conservative idea, the fact that we should just hold off on letting people
00:11:07.260 into the country at this point until we figured out what was going on.
00:11:10.780 This, of course, was the exact opposite approach of the True to Liberals who continued to allow
00:11:14.960 rampant illegal immigration and also increase our immigration levels in the midst.
00:11:19.680 Likewise, so 63% of respondents to a Leger poll said the government should prioritize limiting
00:11:25.720 immigration levels because the country might be reaching a limit in its ability to integrate them.
00:11:31.300 And again, the party affiliation break down 81% of conservatives, 57% of greens, 44% of NDP,
00:11:37.640 and 41% of liberals.
00:11:39.780 So this idea that we should take it slow, that we should hold off on these huge immigration targets, 0.96
00:11:44.500 and we should instead focus on the community, focus on integrating, focus on making sure
00:11:48.220 that every newcomer to Canada joins a Canadian family, feels settled, feels welcome, builds a
00:11:53.480 community, and is really integrated into the country.
00:11:56.260 This, again, is a fundamentally conservative idea that the conservatives shy away from.
00:12:00.820 You never see immigration as a main plank in a conservative campaign platform because
00:12:05.220 they're just so afraid of the negative press that comes along with it.
00:12:08.340 And so they ignore the issue, even though it is something that, again, could bring voters
00:12:12.940 from across the spectrum over to the conservative side.
00:12:16.400 So again, this whole idea that we should never talk about abortion, that it just should be 0.99
00:12:19.580 completely off limits for politicians and in public life, is offside with the majority of
00:12:25.040 Canadians.
00:12:25.620 66% of women, 60% of Canadians say that there should be some kind of a law outlying sex-selective 0.75
00:12:32.600 abortions or gender-based abortions. 0.98
00:12:34.660 And even if you take a step back, 51% of people say that there should be some kind of a law
00:12:39.260 limiting when women can have abortions.
00:12:42.080 Interesting note, something that conservative politicians shy away from.
00:12:45.800 Next, a Pew Research Center poll found that the overwhelming majority, 73% of Canadians,
00:12:51.420 view China unfavorably.
00:12:53.240 37% say that they view China very unfavorably.
00:12:56.400 And 36% say they view China somewhat favorably.
00:12:59.760 So again, a strong foreign policy standing up to China, which, to his credit, Aaron O'Toole
00:13:04.320 did sort of touch on this, but he really shied away from it and he didn't put it as central
00:13:08.320 in his campaign as he should have.
00:13:10.240 This is something that most Canadians agree with.
00:13:13.180 Next one, this one's really important.
00:13:14.360 A 2020 Ipsos poll found that the majority of Canadians support an economic recovery that
00:13:19.420 includes oil and natural gas.
00:13:21.820 The poll found that 52%, so more than half, disagreed that there should be job losses in
00:13:27.080 the oil and natural gas sector or the manufacturing sector, even if it means having a greener economy
00:13:32.480 and a green recovery.
00:13:33.420 61% agreed that jobs in the Canadian oil and natural gas industry are essential to Canada's
00:13:39.340 economy.
00:13:40.640 So Canadians support our energy industry.
00:13:42.720 Canadians support oil and gas in Canada.
00:13:45.420 We should really have a conservative leader who unapologetically champions this and make
00:13:49.520 sure that Canadians know that that is where they stand.
00:13:52.080 This next one came from Stats Canada, just released today.
00:13:55.020 And it said that 63% of immigrant responders said that they felt very proud of Canada and
00:14:01.400 specifically very proud of Canada's treatment towards all groups in society.
00:14:05.740 Compare that with Canadian born respondents.
00:14:08.340 Only 43% said that they were proud of Canada's treatments of all groups in society.
00:14:13.260 So it even goes through the identity and the race of people who made this comment.
00:14:18.180 So I don't like the idea of separating Canadians by race and pinning us against each other.
00:14:22.900 But for the purpose of this survey, it is really interesting to see the disparity in
00:14:26.840 opinions.
00:14:27.740 So 44% of white Canadians said that they felt proud of Canada's treatment of all groups
00:14:32.600 in society.
00:14:33.400 Let's just go through the other groups so that you can see the gap.
00:14:36.420 51% of Koreans agreed.
00:14:38.360 53% of black people.
00:14:40.100 57% of Chinese.
00:14:41.940 70% of South Asians.
00:14:43.700 72% of Arabs.
00:14:45.020 73% of Filipinos.
00:14:47.240 And 77% of West Asians.
00:14:50.340 I assume that means Middle Easterners.
00:14:52.340 So really, if you're a new Canadian, if you're a minority, you're more proud of Canada, more
00:14:56.480 proud of the way that we treat all the various groups in society than white people in the 0.99
00:15:01.460 country, even though 44% is still a sizable plurality.
00:15:05.560 And finally, a January 2020 Angus Reid poll found that 48% of Canadians say that crime has
00:15:11.460 increased in their community over the past four years, up from 42% in 2018 and 30% in
00:15:17.080 2014.
00:15:18.120 So again, this idea that a conservative can champion rule of law, law and order, crime
00:15:23.400 issues, rather than doing what Erin O'Toole did, which was surrender to Trudeau when Trudeau 0.98
00:15:27.460 tried to bring up the issue of assault weapons.
00:15:30.100 A conservative should own that issue.
00:15:31.960 They should be dominant in talking about the need to secure our streets.
00:15:35.420 That's a winning strategy.
00:15:36.780 Half of Canadians agree.
00:15:37.780 So taking all this information in its totality, all of the public opinion showing conservative
00:15:42.180 issues that really dominate and are popular with the country, the fact that eight of 10
00:15:46.780 provincial premiers are conservative, the fact that conservatives win the popular vote
00:15:50.440 in the election.
00:15:51.560 Canadians are open to conservative ideas.
00:15:53.600 Many Canadians are already willing to vote conservatives.
00:15:56.620 So again, this shows, I think it's pretty clear that Canada at its core is a conservative
00:16:02.060 country.
00:16:02.720 We're conservative by temperament.
00:16:04.200 Canadians prefer slow and incremental changes, and we're skeptical of those who promise
00:16:08.860 utopia, promise big, grand changes, or theoretical ideas that haven't been proven out and are
00:16:15.200 often counter to human nature.
00:16:16.960 We're also conservative by culture.
00:16:19.180 Canadians are proud and patriotic people.
00:16:21.160 And this is especially true, as I just pointed out, for new Canadians and immigrants, people
00:16:25.380 who are visible minorities.
00:16:27.180 Canadians are looking for common sense proposals.
00:16:29.440 They're looking for real world solutions.
00:16:30.940 And fundamentally, they care about things like order, liberty, family, faith, community.
00:16:37.420 Those are the foundations of a free society.
00:16:39.540 And they're also the cornerstone values of conservatism.
00:16:42.440 Conservatives can win by proudly celebrating Canada, by rejecting and by refuting divisive,
00:16:48.400 woke identity politics, by promoting core conservative values like protecting law and order, life, free
00:16:54.340 markets, freedom, rule of law, our energy economy, by promoting safe streets, strong families,
00:17:00.520 and fostering a sense of national identity, national purpose, and national community.
00:17:06.440 That's a conservative message that I, and millions of other Canadians, would happily embrace
00:17:11.640 and celebrate if presented by a federal conservative party.
00:17:15.940 Instead, the Conservative Party of Canada and its leader, Erin O'Toole, went in the other direction
00:17:21.040 in this election, and that is why they lost.
00:17:23.720 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:17:30.520 Thank you.
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