Juno News - March 12, 2019


Did a crime happen in the SNC-Lavalin scandal？


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4 minutes

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170.17482

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795

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40

Misogynist Sentences

1


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Jody Wilson-Raybould be allowed to speak at the Justice Committee hearing on Wednesday. She has already testified in front of the committee about her allegations of political interference from the Prime Minister's Office. Should she be allowed another crack at it?

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00:00:00.000 So there's a conversation going on right now
00:00:07.320 about should Jody Wilson-Raybould be allowed to speak
00:00:10.480 in the committee hearing coming up this Wednesday.
00:00:12.920 Having her second shot, her second time around,
00:00:15.880 to go and put forward her facts, her truth, as she calls it,
00:00:19.380 of what happened and all of that political interference
00:00:22.320 from the Prime Minister's office.
00:00:24.040 Andrew Scheer has a Let Her Speak campaign going on
00:00:26.640 and a lot of people are rallying behind it.
00:00:28.360 And at face value, I'm very much in support of it, of course.
00:00:31.680 She says she wants to come forward.
00:00:33.580 Jerry Butts, Michael Warnock, and Justin Trudeau
00:00:35.520 have basically said that she was a liar, 0.80
00:00:38.040 that she misinterpreted the situation,
00:00:40.360 that two people can experience the same event differently,
00:00:43.660 in Jerry Butts' words.
00:00:45.100 I am fully aware that two people can experience
00:00:48.460 the same event differently.
00:00:50.200 So if she wants another crack at it,
00:00:52.260 she should be entitled to that.
00:00:53.840 She should have that opportunity.
00:00:55.260 But what more is she going to add from what she already presented?
00:00:59.640 In her stunning 30-minute initial testimony,
00:01:02.220 she gave considerable detail for those 30 interactions
00:01:05.540 in person, on the phone, text message, email,
00:01:08.540 where she detailed all the different examples of interference
00:01:12.100 that her and her staff received from the Prime Minister's office.
00:01:15.840 For a period of approximately four months,
00:01:19.880 between September and December of 2018,
00:01:23.760 I experienced a consistent and sustained effort
00:01:27.140 by many people within the government
00:01:28.940 to seek to politically interfere
00:01:31.180 in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion
00:01:34.480 in my role as the Attorney General of Canada
00:01:37.320 in an inappropriate effort
00:01:39.020 to secure a deferred prosecution agreement
00:01:41.540 with SNC-Lavalin.
00:01:42.980 I mean, what more are we going to get?
00:01:58.900 We're probably just going to get a second round
00:02:00.460 of he said, she said
00:02:01.560 that's going to muddy the waters even further
00:02:03.680 and Canadians might even get tired of it.
00:02:05.700 They might get news fatigue and go,
00:02:07.240 yeah, I don't know,
00:02:08.020 call me when there's a resolution in all of this.
00:02:10.420 And is there going to be a resolution?
00:02:11.920 I think a lot of people might be under the mistaken view
00:02:15.080 that the Justice Committee is going to come up
00:02:16.800 with some sort of verdict or edict
00:02:18.640 or they will press charges.
00:02:20.420 No way, that is not what House of Commons committees do at all.
00:02:24.300 All they do is write a report
00:02:25.720 and then the report,
00:02:26.700 they summarize what the different witnesses said
00:02:28.680 and then they offer their own recommendations,
00:02:30.960 8 or 10 or 12 or what have you.
00:02:33.420 They're not going to be saying much.
00:02:35.420 Probably the most aggressive recommendation they'll have is,
00:02:38.000 well, in the future,
00:02:38.660 you should consider separating the Attorney General
00:02:40.860 and the Justice Minister post
00:02:42.500 so we no longer have this situation again,
00:02:45.020 this sort of problem.
00:02:46.520 But that's not what we want to know.
00:02:48.180 We don't want to know what do we do moving forward
00:02:50.540 so this doesn't happen again.
00:02:52.060 We want to know,
00:02:53.240 did a crime happen?
00:02:54.820 Was there obstruction of justice?
00:02:57.260 And something dawned on me the other week.
00:02:59.560 I was appearing on a television panel
00:03:01.160 and there were a couple lawyers on the panel with me
00:03:03.100 and we were all getting into this big debate
00:03:05.100 over some of the very nitty-gritty legal aspects.
00:03:08.160 And I looked at it and I stepped back for a second
00:03:09.900 and I thought,
00:03:10.500 this is like a dress rehearsal for a trial.
00:03:13.760 I mean, I'm not a lawyer,
00:03:14.600 but here's these other two lawyers.
00:03:16.400 They're arguing two sides of the coin.
00:03:17.920 They're bringing up their points and so forth.
00:03:20.000 I mean, you've got this happening on TV and radio
00:03:22.420 and op-eds all throughout the country.
00:03:24.440 You've got former prosecutors,
00:03:26.580 former judges,
00:03:27.520 lawyers stepping forward,
00:03:28.780 arguing both sides of the coin.
00:03:30.660 They're treating it like a trial.
00:03:32.100 And hey, here's a novel idea.
00:03:34.380 Maybe quit with the dress rehearsals
00:03:36.060 and actually do the real thing.
00:03:38.460 The main event.
00:03:39.720 This is about the legal details.
00:03:42.200 And people aren't sitting together
00:03:43.520 and coming to a conclusive answer.
00:03:45.460 So that probably tells you
00:03:46.720 this is something that needs a judge,
00:03:48.320 a jury to weigh in on.
00:03:49.680 The legal system.
00:03:51.420 So I support Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:03:53.300 going back to the Justice Committee for sure,
00:03:55.560 but that is not where the resolution comes.
00:03:57.800 A very serious question
00:03:59.300 as to whether or not
00:04:00.400 there is political interference
00:04:02.000 in our justice system
00:04:03.120 is a legal question.
00:04:05.160 I mean, heavens,
00:04:05.760 if they can rustle up
00:04:07.380 31 criminal charges for Mike Duffy
00:04:09.740 and he's acquitted on all of them,
00:04:11.560 you've got to think
00:04:12.620 they've got to be able to find
00:04:14.040 one or two or three charges
00:04:15.780 for these guys
00:04:17.220 and have an actual trial
00:04:18.680 and get to the bottom of it
00:04:20.100 that way.
00:04:20.900 You
00:04:34.460 You
00:04:38.400 You