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00:00:12.740 Coming up, the mainstream media accuses pro-choice Aaron O'Toole of having a secret pro-life agenda.

00:00:18.780 Why today's youth find punctuation triggering, and Michael Barrett on the latest in the Wee scandal.

00:00:26.400 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.

00:00:30.000 Hello and welcome everyone to another edition of Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.

00:00:37.480 This is The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.

00:00:40.240 Thank you very much for joining me for another edition.

00:00:43.640 It is August 26th, 2020, just a few days after Aaron O'Toole won the Conservative leadership.

00:00:50.860 And if you believe in that idea that the enemy of your enemy is your friend,

00:00:55.220 surely you must be pretty enthralled that many in the left-wing media, the left-wing sectors of the media,

00:01:02.400 are not too happy with Aaron O'Toole being the Conservative leader.

00:01:07.000 So if that is in fact a thing that you care about, as in it makes you more like someone,

00:01:12.560 if the people you don't like don't like them, then you may be in good standing right now.

00:01:17.400 I'm going to talk about later on the Wee investigation that the Conservatives are doing outside of the committee,

00:01:23.980 because Justin Trudeau has shut down Parliament, and as you know, he's also shut down the investigation into himself.

00:01:30.280 But I'm going to be talking about that with MP Michael Barrett later on in the show.

00:01:35.400 But I do want to begin by discussing a few of the media reactions to Aaron O'Toole.

00:01:42.240 Now, we spent most of the show Monday talking about how Aaron O'Toole became the Conservative leader,

00:01:47.480 what it's likely to mean.

00:01:49.140 And again, I have to point out here, and this is not a knock or an endorsement of O'Toole,

00:01:54.720 I think it's just a matter-of-fact observation.

00:01:57.880 He, yes, ran as that true blue Conservative.

00:02:00.720 You can't deny that.

00:02:01.720 He ran as being consistent and authentic.

00:02:04.420 But he's not a radical by any stretch.

00:02:07.280 There's a guy who's always been a consensus builder.

00:02:11.220 That's always been his approach, as far as I've known him,

00:02:14.660 going back to his time in the Stephen Harper Cabinet and looking at his previous leadership campaign.

00:02:20.220 And yeah, he's saying right now that, you know, he doesn't want to bend the knee on things.

00:02:23.980 He's going to stand up for free speech and cancel culture.

00:02:26.580 But we're not talking about a hard-line guy.

00:02:29.920 And I think this is important because it's already happening,

00:02:33.640 that the media is trying to paint him as being this radical.

00:02:37.820 And in particular, let's look at his first press conference.

00:02:41.840 So he was supposed to be declared the leader on Sunday.

00:02:44.940 It took until the wee hours of Monday morning.

00:02:47.320 Although, as my friend J.J. McCullough pointed out, who's on the West Coast,

00:02:51.180 he said, you know, all the Ontarians need to shut up

00:02:53.240 because typically the sun rises and sets on East Coast time.

00:02:57.700 So he said it was nice that there was a timing that worked out well for people on the West Coast.

00:03:02.260 But what happened is on Monday morning in the wee hours, Aaron O'Toole is the victor.

00:03:08.600 Because of the late hour, apparently he had, you know,

00:03:11.540 wasn't able to get caught up on all his work on Monday in the daytime.

00:03:14.940 So he waited until Tuesday to do his first press conference.

00:03:18.060 And this was his coming out party, his debutante ball to the media.

00:03:22.040 He comes out, gives a little bit of the same type of speech he gave on Sunday night,

00:03:27.220 the importance of uniting the party and the country.

00:03:30.200 He restated that line about how he wants everyone, black, white, brown,

00:03:35.300 if they worship on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, indigenous, immigrant, all of those people.

00:03:39.500 He wants everyone to come out and support him and find a place in the conservative party.

00:03:45.640 Not a hard line message, not even an ideological message.

00:03:50.160 But then you listen to the questions he's asked.

00:03:53.940 And he is asked in 15 minutes of a press conference,

00:03:57.600 no fewer than four questions that touch on abortion.

00:04:03.000 Four. Four questions about, oh, do you feel you owe social conservatives anything?

00:04:08.300 Which, again, is a fair question.

00:04:09.800 But when you look at the volume of it, four questions that touch on this thing.

00:04:13.700 When Aaron O'Toole is, by his own admission, repeatedly and recurrently, pro-choice,

00:04:19.780 he is not pro-life at all.

00:04:21.760 The only thing he said and did that was pro-life was say,

00:04:25.420 yes, I realize that social conservatives are a part of the party,

00:04:28.820 and I think we need to make sure that everyone has a voice

00:04:31.420 and protect the long-standing conservative tradition of free votes.

00:04:36.480 That was what he said.

00:04:37.560 That was his only position on this.

00:04:39.500 And he was and is unequivocally pro-choice.

00:04:42.780 Why this is relevant is because if someone who is unequivocally and unabashedly pro-choice

00:04:50.120 is getting hit relentlessly with questions about the social conservatism

00:04:54.920 and about the pro-life agenda and all of that,

00:04:57.560 to the same volume, to the same extent that a leader who was pro-life was,

00:05:02.440 what was the whole point of all of that rhetoric we heard from the red Tories

00:05:06.560 that, oh, we can't have a social conservative, you know, that's what sidelines us?

00:05:09.660 No, the media is asking that anyway.

00:05:12.240 Take a listen to this one question.

00:05:14.060 Now, it's translated, obviously,

00:05:15.620 but this is a reporter from Radio Canada yesterday at his press conference

00:05:21.760 asking about, you guessed it, that social conservative agenda

00:05:25.640 based on a vote he made a few years ago.

00:05:28.900 Question.

00:05:29.400 This morning, once again, you said that you are a pro-choice MP,

00:05:32.980 but in 2016, you voted for Bill C-225 that wanted to give legal rights to the fetus.

00:05:40.200 How can you reconcile that vote with the fact that you say that you are pro-choice?

00:05:46.080 Answer.

00:05:47.140 That is incorrect.

00:05:48.920 It was a bill on public safety, in fact,

00:05:52.980 and I voted in favor to have debate in committee on that bill

00:05:58.640 because it was on public safety for women

00:06:02.940 and that is my approach.

00:06:07.860 It's possible to listen to people

00:06:10.720 and to be a pro-choice MP.

00:06:15.440 That is going to be my approach question.

00:06:17.860 But women's rights advocates will tell you 0.98

00:06:21.200 that that's the kind of bill that tries to open up cracks

00:06:26.040 to reopen the debate on abortion.

00:06:29.140 How can you reassure people who may think that?

00:06:31.260 Answer.

00:06:32.860 That was a bill on criminal sentencing, actually,

00:06:36.420 and I have a completely clear track record on social issues as an MP.

00:06:42.500 That's not the case for Justin Trudeau

00:06:44.040 because in 2013, I was the first of only 18 conservatives

00:06:51.260 who voted for a bill for the LGBT community.

00:06:57.600 Mr. Trudeau missed the vote for a fundraising activity

00:07:04.260 for the Ontario Liberal Party.

00:07:10.640 But I have a clear record by that Mr. Trudeau does not.

00:07:14.040 They'll be trying to work their little spin cycle

00:07:21.260 and they're already starting.

00:07:22.820 I have a track record of always voting in favor of rights,

00:07:26.100 whether it's the rights of women with respect to choice,

00:07:29.320 whether it's the LGBT community.

00:07:31.680 In my first months as an MP,

00:07:33.200 I was the first conservative of 18 to support an LGBT bill.

00:07:38.040 I will always stand and defend the rights of Canadians.

00:07:41.060 Justin Trudeau skipped the vote, a very close vote,

00:07:45.240 to attend a Cash for Access fundraiser with the Liberals in Toronto.

00:07:49.000 So you'll see where his priorities are.

00:07:51.400 My priorities will be on Canadians. 0.98

00:07:53.600 Now, I have to speak about this bill for a moment

00:07:56.040 because Aaron O'Toole,

00:07:57.060 and I didn't actually quite like in his answer

00:07:58.900 how he downplayed what he did.

00:08:01.100 At first he said,

00:08:01.820 oh, you know, he was just voting to put it to committee

00:08:04.740 so that people could talk about it.

00:08:06.300 Then later he said, oh, no, no, no.

00:08:07.900 It's just a criminal sentencing bill.

00:08:10.020 The private members bill in question, C-225,

00:08:14.040 from MP Kathy Wagenthal,

00:08:16.260 had a very specific purpose.

00:08:18.380 And you can see it in the title,

00:08:19.840 Protection of Pregnant Women and Their Preborn Children Act,

00:08:23.660 Cassie and Molly's Law,

00:08:25.340 an act to amend the criminal code,

00:08:27.520 injuring or causing the death of a preborn child

00:08:29.940 while committing an offense.

00:08:31.300 And if you look in the text of the bill,

00:08:33.920 what this would have done

00:08:35.100 is make it a separate offense

00:08:36.900 if you knowingly harm a preborn or unborn child

00:08:42.280 in the course of committing a crime.

00:08:44.720 You have to know that the woman in question is pregnant. 0.90

00:08:47.540 And if that happens, it's an additional offense.

00:08:50.220 And that is not carved out in law right now

00:08:52.780 because under Canadian law right now,

00:08:55.160 up until a moment before a child leaves the birth canal,

00:08:58.540 they cease to exist.

00:08:59.500 So that was the point of this.

00:09:00.640 And obviously a lot of people,

00:09:02.660 as this Red Dew Canada reporter clearly believes,

00:09:05.640 thought that, oh, this is just a backdoor way

00:09:08.140 to banning abortion,

00:09:09.580 when in actuality it was covering an aspect of Canadian law

00:09:13.420 that is leaving vulnerable people

00:09:15.920 unprotected and unaccounted for.

00:09:18.040 A heinous crime happens.

00:09:19.680 There is no recognition in law

00:09:21.720 that something has gone wrong,

00:09:23.580 that something has happened.

00:09:24.780 That was the point of this.

00:09:26.960 The bill didn't pass.

00:09:28.400 Okay, moot point right now.

00:09:29.800 Aaron O'Toole voted for this,

00:09:31.960 which I think proves the point

00:09:33.980 that it wasn't a bill

00:09:35.340 that you had to be a pro-life person

00:09:38.160 to see the value in.

00:09:39.840 But even something so adjacent

00:09:42.380 to being pro-life,

00:09:44.420 but not being pro-life,

00:09:45.720 will get you hit by the media

00:09:47.200 for being this, you know,

00:09:48.300 evil, scary, social conservative.

00:09:50.480 And when, because Aaron O'Toole,

00:09:52.540 who is pro-choice,

00:09:53.500 and he said it again,

00:09:54.340 he said it repeatedly,

00:09:55.280 because he's getting hit by this,

00:09:57.940 it actually reinforces

00:09:59.900 what has always been my position on this,

00:10:02.480 that there is no better answer

00:10:04.120 to these questions than the truth,

00:10:06.260 because indeed,

00:10:06.980 there is no correct answer at all.

00:10:09.700 The media is not actually interested

00:10:11.800 in having a dialogue about this.

00:10:14.300 The media just wants to string everyone up. 0.61

00:10:17.060 And as I said on Twitter yesterday,

00:10:18.700 if you so much as like,

00:10:19.700 stop to tie your shoe

00:10:20.840 in front of a Catholic church

00:10:21.880 over the last 30 years,

00:10:23.020 you're going to be hit with having

00:10:25.060 an evil, scary, social conservative agenda.

00:10:28.980 So yeah, I wish O'Toole had stood up

00:10:31.200 for Kathy Wagenthal's bill

00:10:33.140 more forcefully than he did

00:10:34.960 instead of downplaying it,

00:10:36.200 because it's pretty easy to figure out

00:10:37.960 just from reading the title and the text

00:10:39.580 what this bill was actually about.

00:10:41.980 But nevertheless,

00:10:43.300 it proves that even having a pro-choice leader

00:10:45.960 doesn't make all of these concerns go away.

00:10:49.220 Now, this is not to say

00:10:50.440 that Aaron O'Toole's position

00:10:51.540 is a calculated one.

00:10:53.120 I believe that it's just authentic.

00:10:54.800 That's what he believes.

00:10:56.220 But it's more of a caution

00:10:57.580 to other people

00:10:58.680 in the conservative movement

00:11:00.220 that, I mean,

00:11:02.160 this is not rocket science

00:11:03.560 or shouldn't be,

00:11:04.220 that even if you give the media

00:11:05.540 and the left

00:11:06.020 everything they say they want,

00:11:08.600 it's not going to make

00:11:09.960 the criticisms go away.

00:11:12.420 And on that note,

00:11:13.780 I have to turn,

00:11:14.760 not that I go to Canada's

00:11:16.500 imitation of the view

00:11:18.000 called The Social

00:11:19.300 to get my in-depth

00:11:20.620 political commentary

00:11:21.620 or punditry fix.

00:11:23.000 However,

00:11:23.600 I have to play this clip.

00:11:25.100 It was actually shown to me

00:11:26.820 by one of my colleagues.

00:11:27.880 Believe it or not,

00:11:28.500 part of my working from home routine

00:11:29.940 is not, you know,

00:11:30.860 flipping on the daytime talk shows.

00:11:32.760 But this was a clip

00:11:33.940 from The Social

00:11:34.720 in which the four,

00:11:36.160 I don't know if they're co-hosts

00:11:37.220 or co-anchors

00:11:37.980 or socialites,

00:11:39.420 whatever the term is,

00:11:40.540 are sitting around.

00:11:41.820 They're talking about

00:11:42.460 the conservative leadership race.

00:11:43.880 And there seems to be

00:11:45.420 this overwhelming sense

00:11:47.160 of sadness

00:11:48.020 that Peter McKay

00:11:49.820 didn't win

00:11:50.600 the conservative leadership,

00:11:52.080 which, okay,

00:11:52.940 people who supported McKay,

00:11:54.600 I get why they'd be sad

00:11:55.860 they didn't win.

00:11:56.620 You're always sad

00:11:57.360 when your person

00:11:58.320 isn't elected.

00:11:59.760 But the rationale

00:12:00.880 I have to jump on

00:12:02.620 from one particular

00:12:03.780 member of this panel,

00:12:05.500 and that is Lainey Liu,

00:12:08.000 who, well,

00:12:09.720 why don't you just

00:12:10.440 listen for yourself?

00:12:11.280 I have to say,

00:12:12.660 I can't,

00:12:14.520 I have been discouraged

00:12:15.980 by Prime Minister

00:12:17.800 Justin Trudeau

00:12:18.800 in many ways lately.

00:12:21.180 Quite disappointed, actually.

00:12:22.860 So when the news came out,

00:12:25.580 or at least in the months

00:12:28.020 preceding this leadership race,

00:12:30.320 that Peter McKay

00:12:31.500 was the frontrunner,

00:12:32.920 I thought that

00:12:34.240 I would have to make

00:12:35.380 an interesting decision

00:12:36.480 that I maybe

00:12:38.540 would be able

00:12:40.240 to consider

00:12:40.980 an alternative

00:12:41.880 to Prime Minister

00:12:42.980 Justin Trudeau.

00:12:44.180 And in many ways,

00:12:45.200 I was looking forward to it.

00:12:46.660 And I was prepared

00:12:47.880 to go in

00:12:48.840 thinking differently

00:12:50.200 about the conservative party.

00:12:52.600 Now, though,

00:12:54.060 with this decision,

00:12:55.460 and as you mentioned,

00:12:56.820 Jess,

00:12:57.120 and the tweet

00:12:57.760 from Fluffy Teal

00:12:58.800 about social conservatism,

00:13:01.480 it feels like

00:13:02.940 this party

00:13:04.120 is turning away

00:13:05.320 from more progressive politics

00:13:07.160 and entrenching itself

00:13:08.880 even further

00:13:10.080 in social conservatism.

00:13:11.680 And it makes someone

00:13:12.540 like me,

00:13:13.140 a Canadian voter

00:13:14.000 who may be

00:13:16.160 open

00:13:17.060 to another option

00:13:18.940 other than

00:13:19.920 Justin Trudeau.

00:13:20.840 And I have

00:13:21.840 voted liberal

00:13:23.360 in the past

00:13:24.920 many times,

00:13:26.180 consistently.

00:13:27.220 It makes me wonder,

00:13:29.020 were you thinking

00:13:29.740 about me,

00:13:30.980 Conservative Party of Canada?

00:13:32.440 Like,

00:13:32.660 didn't you just,

00:13:34.160 did you just lose me?

00:13:35.540 I'm not sure I agree, Lainey.

00:13:38.400 Okay.

00:13:39.160 So, listen,

00:13:40.460 here is my position on this.

00:13:42.460 Yes,

00:13:42.740 the conservative base

00:13:43.680 needs to grow,

00:13:44.440 the conservative family

00:13:45.620 needs to grow,

00:13:46.320 people need to bring in

00:13:47.100 other people.

00:13:48.060 But her issue,

00:13:49.940 well, let me clarify,

00:13:50.940 you can tell how terrifying

00:13:52.380 it is

00:13:52.960 for a downtown

00:13:54.120 Toronto media personality

00:13:55.760 to even entertain

00:13:57.360 voting conservative.

00:13:58.800 And she says as much,

00:13:59.900 she's like,

00:14:00.280 well,

00:14:00.860 you know,

00:14:01.180 to think that I maybe

00:14:02.640 could have considered

00:14:04.220 thinking about

00:14:05.660 at one point

00:14:07.100 talking about,

00:14:08.340 thinking about,

00:14:09.580 maybe casting a ballot

00:14:11.680 that was almost

00:14:12.860 for the,

00:14:13.920 like,

00:14:14.340 she's trying to,

00:14:15.540 like,

00:14:15.680 talk herself into

00:14:17.500 or maybe talk herself

00:14:18.600 out of

00:14:19.200 what she's trying to say,

00:14:20.640 which is that,

00:14:21.120 you know,

00:14:21.320 she doesn't necessarily

00:14:22.480 want to vote liberal.

00:14:23.280 But it's like,

00:14:23.920 it's so painful for her

00:14:25.360 to admit that,

00:14:26.460 which I think is in and of

00:14:27.400 itself interesting.

00:14:28.500 But the more telling part

00:14:30.780 is when she says

00:14:32.540 the conservatives

00:14:33.540 are moving further

00:14:34.600 and further away

00:14:35.320 from progressive politics

00:14:36.960 and then I'm a liberal

00:14:38.440 voter,

00:14:38.900 she says,

00:14:39.500 were you thinking

00:14:40.400 of me?

00:14:42.180 No!

00:14:43.340 No!

00:14:43.800 Why should the conservatives

00:14:44.960 be thinking

00:14:45.740 of diehard,

00:14:47.400 lifelong liberals

00:14:48.520 when they're deciding

00:14:49.760 who should be

00:14:50.400 the standard bearer

00:14:51.620 of the conservative party?

00:14:53.300 No,

00:14:53.640 of course they weren't

00:14:54.520 thinking of you.

00:14:55.780 It's a conservative

00:14:56.880 leadership race.

00:14:57.880 Yes,

00:14:58.220 they want your vote,

00:14:59.320 of course,

00:14:59.760 and yes,

00:15:00.720 you have to reach

00:15:01.500 across the aisle,

00:15:02.700 but when you are deciding

00:15:04.440 who is the conservative

00:15:06.220 standard bearer,

00:15:07.860 the one that gets to,

00:15:09.380 in many cases,

00:15:10.440 sell and champion

00:15:11.600 conservatism,

00:15:13.020 the goal is not

00:15:14.300 to find the candidate

00:15:15.580 that's going to be

00:15:16.560 championing what you call

00:15:18.240 progressive politics.

00:15:21.260 And this proves

00:15:22.940 what Aaron O'Toole

00:15:23.920 was saying

00:15:24.620 in the leadership race.

00:15:25.880 This proves why

00:15:26.700 Aaron O'Toole won,

00:15:27.860 because progressive voters

00:15:29.580 liked Peter McKay

00:15:31.940 not because they thought

00:15:33.680 that Peter McKay

00:15:34.500 was a conservative

00:15:35.500 that they could get behind,

00:15:37.240 but because they thought

00:15:38.300 he was a progressive.

00:15:41.040 That's the whole point.

00:15:42.580 They liked him

00:15:43.520 because they thought

00:15:44.340 he was going to give them

00:15:45.500 progressive politics,

00:15:47.180 not conservative politics.

00:15:49.100 A conservative leader

00:15:50.480 does not,

00:15:51.840 in my view,

00:15:52.940 broaden the base

00:15:53.980 by diluting conservatism.

00:15:55.900 They broadened the base

00:15:57.080 by selling conservatism.

00:16:00.740 And that is a very

00:16:02.260 important distinction

00:16:03.320 that is lost

00:16:04.220 in all of the people

00:16:05.020 that said that Peter McKay

00:16:06.120 would be the

00:16:06.600 quote-unquote

00:16:07.260 most electable.

00:16:09.780 So that's the whole point here.

00:16:11.760 And yes,

00:16:12.300 Aaron O'Toole,

00:16:12.940 to be fair,

00:16:13.500 in his opening remarks

00:16:14.900 at that press conference,

00:16:15.820 said,

00:16:16.500 if you're a lifelong

00:16:17.140 liberal NDP voter,

00:16:18.280 I want you to join the family.

00:16:19.980 But he has to bring

00:16:21.240 those people in

00:16:22.100 by showing them

00:16:23.280 how conservatism works.

00:16:24.960 And the way you do that

00:16:26.400 is actually,

00:16:27.420 I would argue,

00:16:28.100 a page out of

00:16:28.900 Derek Sloan's book,

00:16:29.860 which is you are

00:16:31.020 a conservative

00:16:31.780 without apology.

00:16:32.840 You tell people

00:16:33.600 why these values

00:16:35.220 are right for them.

00:16:37.080 Because if you are,

00:16:38.120 and this is true

00:16:38.720 of any ideology,

00:16:39.620 I'm speaking of it now

00:16:40.520 in a conservative context

00:16:41.620 because that's where we are.

00:16:43.120 If you are a conservative

00:16:44.820 and you believe

00:16:45.500 in conservatism,

00:16:46.660 you believe that

00:16:47.760 for a reason.

00:16:48.600 You believe it

00:16:49.140 because it's correct.

00:16:50.780 So the way you get

00:16:52.020 people on board

00:16:52.820 with that

00:16:53.280 is by showing them

00:16:54.320 the same things

00:16:55.140 that drew you

00:16:56.160 to that way

00:16:57.300 of viewing the world.

00:16:59.220 And that clip 0.75

00:17:00.080 from The Social,

00:17:01.060 again,

00:17:01.420 I don't share it

00:17:02.440 because it's,

00:17:03.020 you know,

00:17:03.280 high-minded

00:17:03.980 intellectual debate,

00:17:06.740 nor is it supposed to be.

00:17:07.760 That's not a knock

00:17:08.700 at the host.

00:17:09.260 I'm saying it's not

00:17:09.840 a politics show.

00:17:10.880 It's a chit-chat news,

00:17:12.720 not even really a news show.

00:17:13.920 It's a chit-chat show.

00:17:15.000 But when that clip

00:17:17.180 comes across my radar,

00:17:19.700 I look at it

00:17:20.600 and I'm like,

00:17:21.080 that is exactly

00:17:22.580 the point

00:17:23.080 and that's why

00:17:23.820 Aaron O'Toole

00:17:24.400 got to the place

00:17:25.380 that he did

00:17:26.080 because the only people

00:17:28.820 that were really

00:17:29.500 enthusiastic about McKay

00:17:31.420 were not,

00:17:33.900 in fact,

00:17:34.540 conservatives.

00:17:36.120 He was the favorite

00:17:37.360 of the media.

00:17:38.540 He was the favorite

00:17:39.400 in many respects

00:17:40.640 of the left

00:17:41.400 and people who,

00:17:42.780 again,

00:17:43.040 were thinking,

00:17:43.760 well, you know,

00:17:44.580 I like conservatives.

00:17:46.140 Because here's the problem

00:17:47.700 and this is what

00:17:48.760 Ms. Liu wants. 0.96

00:17:49.880 She wants an alternative 1.00

00:17:51.820 liberal party.

00:17:54.080 She doesn't want 1.00

00:17:55.200 an alternative

00:17:55.720 to liberalism.

00:17:57.000 She wants an alternative 1.00

00:17:58.240 to Justin Trudeau

00:17:59.460 and to the liberal party

00:18:00.480 of Canada.

00:18:01.700 And this is, again,

00:18:02.980 an aspect of this dialogue

00:18:04.680 that a lot of people

00:18:05.760 I don't think realize.

00:18:07.620 They just want someone else

00:18:09.240 to champion

00:18:09.860 the same policies

00:18:11.060 that Justin Trudeau

00:18:12.380 and the liberals

00:18:12.860 are championing,

00:18:13.640 but without the baggage

00:18:14.660 of Justin Trudeau.

00:18:16.120 And it's why,

00:18:17.200 by the way,

00:18:17.620 the liberals

00:18:17.980 would be very smart

00:18:19.020 were they to replace

00:18:20.140 Justin Trudeau

00:18:20.900 with a Christian Freeland

00:18:21.900 or some other leader

00:18:23.280 because what the liberals

00:18:24.360 have right now

00:18:25.500 is a branding problem

00:18:26.980 in that the shine

00:18:28.520 has come off Justin Trudeau.

00:18:30.380 No, not the shoe polish.

00:18:31.600 The shine has come off.

00:18:32.980 Well, I mean,

00:18:33.260 maybe the shoe polish

00:18:33.980 has come off too.

00:18:34.940 But this has all come off

00:18:36.060 Justin Trudeau

00:18:36.660 and they're just left

00:18:37.720 with this not-as-advertised guy

00:18:39.960 filled with baggage,

00:18:41.500 filled with scandal,

00:18:42.760 filled with a pretty

00:18:44.060 abysmal record

00:18:45.420 in the last year

00:18:46.680 or so in particular.

00:18:48.420 And that's where

00:18:49.420 they have nowhere

00:18:50.340 left to go.

00:18:51.860 And if you had an NDP

00:18:53.200 that was a little bit more

00:18:54.580 on the ball,

00:18:55.740 that might be a big threat

00:18:57.000 to the liberals.

00:18:58.120 And yeah,

00:18:58.700 you could have a conservative

00:18:59.900 that picks up

00:19:00.580 some of that support

00:19:01.400 by being a Justin Trudeau

00:19:03.520 alternative.

00:19:04.640 But as I said on Monday,

00:19:06.020 at that point,

00:19:06.680 the conservative party

00:19:07.680 ceases to be

00:19:08.700 a conservative party.

00:19:11.120 So there is a lesson

00:19:12.820 in this.

00:19:13.440 The people that were

00:19:14.220 enthusiastic about McKay

00:19:15.680 and excited about McKay

00:19:16.880 only wanted someone

00:19:18.840 who was,

00:19:19.900 and again,

00:19:20.420 I'm hinging a lot

00:19:21.380 on one person's words,

00:19:22.600 but I think she encapsulates

00:19:24.160 a lot of the people

00:19:25.740 that we've seen online

00:19:27.380 and heard from

00:19:28.060 in the last several months

00:19:29.100 about this.

00:19:29.780 They want somebody

00:19:30.680 who's going to champion

00:19:31.600 progressive politics

00:19:32.600 who simply isn't

00:19:33.940 Justin Trudeau.

00:19:36.380 And when you allow

00:19:38.420 your message

00:19:39.680 to not just be diluted,

00:19:41.700 but in many cases reversed,

00:19:43.500 you haven't actually

00:19:44.560 won anything.

00:19:46.280 And that is where

00:19:48.220 it's important

00:19:49.240 to stick to your guns

00:19:50.620 and stick to your principles.

00:19:53.140 We've got to take a break.

00:19:54.320 When we come back,

00:19:54.980 more of The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:19:56.340 Hang tight.

00:19:57.980 You're tuned in

00:19:59.080 to The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:20:00.620 Speaking of high-minded

00:20:07.360 political commentary,

00:20:08.580 I had a couple of emails

00:20:09.500 ahead of today's show

00:20:10.540 asking me to tell this story.

00:20:12.640 There's not really much

00:20:13.360 of a story.

00:20:13.960 I got into like a one-sided

00:20:15.300 fight with Jan Arden

00:20:16.400 on Twitter,

00:20:17.080 which is a point,

00:20:17.960 I guess,

00:20:18.220 at which I have already lost

00:20:19.800 just by virtue

00:20:20.700 of engaging in it.

00:20:22.440 But Jan Arden,

00:20:23.620 who, again,

00:20:24.160 I knew of her music,

00:20:26.100 I think,

00:20:26.740 10 to 15 years ago

00:20:28.620 when that was,

00:20:30.160 I suppose,

00:20:30.580 the last time anyone

00:20:31.240 knew of Jan Arden's music.

00:20:32.900 And I liked some

00:20:34.300 of her songs, actually.

00:20:35.300 You know,

00:20:35.500 Easy Listening,

00:20:36.260 Adult Contemporary.

00:20:37.140 She does that one 1.00

00:20:38.120 Buble song,

00:20:39.160 and Buble did it.

00:20:40.100 I thought he did it better,

00:20:41.080 but I digress.

00:20:42.580 So Jan Arden is not a fan

00:20:43.960 of Erin O'Toole.

00:20:44.820 So she had tweeted out,

00:20:46.400 you know, again,

00:20:47.140 high-minded political

00:20:48.040 commentary here

00:20:48.920 on August 24th.

00:20:50.180 Erin is a tool. 1.00

00:20:51.560 And I'm like,

00:20:51.960 okay, it's a joke.

00:20:52.720 It's not a good joke,

00:20:53.520 but I can respond

00:20:54.320 with a joke

00:20:54.840 that's not all that good.

00:20:56.640 And I had said on Twitter,

00:20:57.660 fun fact,

00:20:58.800 Jan Arden has had

00:20:59.720 the same number of hits

00:21:00.560 in the last 10 years

00:21:01.480 as Erin O'Toole,

00:21:02.720 which is to say none.

00:21:03.880 Because all good jokes

00:21:05.260 are rooted in the truth.

00:21:07.560 Unfortunately,

00:21:08.380 it didn't really work out

00:21:09.820 too well for me.

00:21:10.940 If you can look,

00:21:12.160 you know,

00:21:12.580 an hour later,

00:21:13.460 that was the tweet

00:21:14.380 that I got back,

00:21:15.700 or that was the image

00:21:16.320 I saw on Twitter.

00:21:17.120 Jan Arden has blocked you.

00:21:18.480 So, again,

00:21:19.320 I don't know what I'm

00:21:19.960 missing out on,

00:21:20.660 probably nothing,

00:21:21.360 but there we go.

00:21:22.900 So, dish it out

00:21:23.780 and not taking it.

00:21:24.780 That is one of the

00:21:25.300 great sins of comedy.

00:21:27.660 This is a bizarre story.

00:21:29.660 You'd think it was comedy.

00:21:31.020 And I actually learned

00:21:32.040 of this from

00:21:32.920 William McBeath,

00:21:34.000 who many people

00:21:35.080 involved in Canadian politics

00:21:36.660 would no doubt know.

00:21:37.960 He's a spokesperson

00:21:38.820 for Save Calgary.

00:21:41.260 And William McBeath

00:21:42.320 had tweeted something

00:21:43.160 that I didn't actually believe.

00:21:45.480 And it was that,

00:21:46.820 again,

00:21:48.560 this is,

00:21:48.980 I can't stress enough

00:21:50.460 that I thought

00:21:51.060 this was a joke.

00:21:51.960 that Australia

00:21:53.800 once went to war

00:21:55.960 against birds

00:21:57.120 and lost.

00:21:58.760 And this actually had me

00:21:59.840 looking into a bit

00:22:00.560 of Australian history

00:22:01.520 and I discovered

00:22:02.240 the Great Emu War.

00:22:04.260 Is it Emu or Emu?

00:22:05.940 I think it's Emu.

00:22:06.820 The Great Emu War

00:22:08.180 of 1932

00:22:09.640 in which

00:22:10.260 the Australian military

00:22:11.500 was deployed

00:22:12.160 to fight

00:22:12.820 rampant overpopulation

00:22:14.500 of emus.

00:22:15.240 They were

00:22:15.640 taking the large

00:22:17.220 flightless birds

00:22:18.120 to task.

00:22:18.760 They were armed

00:22:19.380 with guns.

00:22:20.000 They were shooting

00:22:20.820 the emus.

00:22:21.840 They killed a number

00:22:22.620 of them.

00:22:24.040 And still,

00:22:24.660 for some reason,

00:22:25.380 the emus

00:22:26.020 emerged victorious.

00:22:27.900 So,

00:22:28.400 if Canada ever

00:22:29.460 ends up in conflict

00:22:30.320 with Australia,

00:22:31.440 I have a high-minded

00:22:33.640 likelihood

00:22:34.400 that we will emerge.

00:22:36.580 We will not

00:22:37.520 be destroyed

00:22:38.220 if Australia

00:22:39.100 couldn't handle

00:22:39.760 a few birds.

00:22:40.620 So,

00:22:40.980 I thought this story

00:22:42.120 was actually

00:22:42.860 for the birds.

00:22:45.080 No?

00:22:45.760 Nothing?

00:22:46.720 Okay.

00:22:47.220 I need a laugh track.

00:22:48.500 All right.

00:22:48.860 In any case,

00:22:49.280 that was actually

00:22:49.780 a true story.

00:22:50.340 You can read up

00:22:50.800 on the Great Emu War.

00:22:51.960 Thank you,

00:22:52.460 William McBeath,

00:22:53.020 I guess,

00:22:53.460 for telling me

00:22:54.220 that was a thing.

00:22:54.880 Although,

00:22:55.600 to any respect

00:22:56.500 I had lingering

00:22:57.520 for the people

00:22:58.160 of Australia,

00:22:58.940 I feel,

00:22:59.420 is gone.

00:23:00.760 Also,

00:23:01.240 in random news here,

00:23:02.880 this comes from

00:23:03.500 the London Evening Standard.

00:23:05.260 Young people

00:23:05.900 are intimidated

00:23:06.880 by full stops.

00:23:08.580 So,

00:23:08.860 you know,

00:23:09.120 periods at the end

00:23:09.860 of sentences

00:23:10.360 because they see them

00:23:11.800 as a sign of anger.

00:23:14.120 Linguists say,

00:23:15.000 this story has found

00:23:16.980 that people

00:23:17.420 in Generation Z

00:23:18.780 find that

00:23:20.360 a full stop

00:23:21.580 seems deliberate

00:23:22.840 because in text messages,

00:23:24.140 most people

00:23:24.640 don't use punctuation,

00:23:25.740 apparently.

00:23:26.200 It bothers me greatly.

00:23:27.500 So that if you put

00:23:28.480 a period,

00:23:29.440 it means that

00:23:30.580 they are trying

00:23:31.440 to be mad at you.

00:23:32.560 So,

00:23:33.060 if you send a text message

00:23:34.760 without a full stop,

00:23:36.060 Dr. Lauren Fontaine

00:23:38.020 tweets,

00:23:39.240 then it's obvious

00:23:40.800 that you've concluded

00:23:41.660 the message.

00:23:42.180 So if you add

00:23:43.160 an additional marker

00:23:44.300 for completion,

00:23:45.280 they will read

00:23:46.140 something into it

00:23:46.980 and it tends to be

00:23:48.100 a falling intonation

00:23:49.640 or negative tone.

00:23:51.600 So the rationale

00:23:52.520 is that hitting

00:23:53.220 send on a message

00:23:54.320 is good enough

00:23:55.180 to say it's complete.

00:23:56.200 You don't need

00:23:56.520 to put a period.

00:23:57.440 So I'm actually weird

00:23:58.320 because I will put

00:23:59.160 like a period

00:23:59.780 after the word

00:24:01.740 hi or hey

00:24:03.380 just because that's

00:24:04.300 how I was raised.

00:24:05.140 You have to use

00:24:05.860 periods or full stops.

00:24:08.320 I've never really

00:24:08.840 called them full stops,

00:24:09.880 but that's what they are.

00:24:10.860 You have to use

00:24:11.660 full stops

00:24:12.340 at the end

00:24:12.660 of a sentence

00:24:13.040 for it to be proper.

00:24:13.860 Now,

00:24:14.000 maybe I'll just

00:24:14.620 do an exclamation mark

00:24:15.780 because then I'm

00:24:16.620 finishing it

00:24:17.420 with a punctuation mark

00:24:19.360 that is appropriate.

00:24:21.220 But then I'm like,

00:24:22.160 are the youth today,

00:24:23.940 I sound so old,

00:24:24.960 but are the youth today

00:24:25.720 so triggered

00:24:26.420 that punctuation

00:24:28.020 is now seen

00:24:29.900 as this great affront

00:24:32.200 against their

00:24:32.720 delicate sensibilities?

00:24:33.800 Apparently,

00:24:34.460 the answer to that

00:24:35.580 is yes.

00:24:36.600 One linguist

00:24:37.180 at Cambridge,

00:24:38.160 Owen McArdle,

00:24:38.920 had said,

00:24:39.240 oh,

00:24:39.400 he's not sure

00:24:39.880 about emails.

00:24:40.560 You know,

00:24:41.120 I guess it depends

00:24:41.680 how formal they are.

00:24:43.020 But he says,

00:24:43.780 full stops are the exception

00:24:45.120 and not the norm

00:24:46.160 and now have a role

00:24:47.620 in signifying an abrupt

00:24:49.140 or angry tone of voice.

00:24:52.140 So all of the media

00:24:53.600 that thinks Aaron O'Toole

00:24:54.460 was too angry,

00:24:55.240 maybe he's just been using

00:24:56.080 too many full stops

00:24:57.120 in his campaign emails.

00:24:58.760 Perhaps that's the case.

00:25:00.240 And also in political

00:25:01.880 correctness news,

00:25:03.000 Rural Britannia,

00:25:03.820 one of the great anthems

00:25:05.340 of the era

00:25:06.340 and of the West,

00:25:07.040 is now being cancelled.

00:25:09.380 BBC removes the lyrics

00:25:11.760 to Rural Britannia

00:25:13.420 because apparently

00:25:14.740 it is just this great,

00:25:16.360 terrible ode to colonialism.

00:25:19.320 So BBC is having

00:25:20.380 its legendary

00:25:20.940 Last Night of the Proms

00:25:22.060 and is now just doing

00:25:23.340 an instrumental version

00:25:24.900 of Rural Britannia

00:25:26.680 because it is going to

00:25:29.200 just offend people

00:25:30.080 too much

00:25:30.560 to celebrate

00:25:31.320 the colonial glory

00:25:32.620 of Great Britain.

00:25:34.100 So Nigel Farage,

00:25:35.480 of course,

00:25:35.780 didn't take too kindly

00:25:36.580 to this.

00:25:37.000 Here's the video

00:25:37.440 he posted of him

00:25:38.280 just belting it out

00:25:39.460 louder than I think

00:25:40.560 the Last Night of the Proms

00:25:41.880 orchestral choir

00:25:43.040 ever could have.

00:25:43.760 Rural Demons 1.00

00:26:05.140 of Technology

00:26:07.220 Rural recursive

00:26:07.340 Rural forced 1.00

00:26:12.420 now thankfully boris johnson the prime minister of britain who's never been one to kowtow to

00:26:22.400 political correctness actually went against it sounds like his own staff when he spoke out about

00:26:28.360 this he said uh in one interview they're trying to restrain me from saying this but i wanted to

00:26:34.500 get it off my chest so i'm assuming that they refers to the handlers that are being like oh no

00:26:38.540 you you mustn't you mustn't talk about this no no no you just let them let it go no you mustn't and

00:26:43.160 then he's like ah you know forget about it i'm gonna do it uh but uh but now again when you have

00:26:48.380 like something that is almost a national anthem it's not quite i know god save the queen or god

00:26:53.660 save the king at some points is the british national anthem rule britannia is pretty much

00:26:58.580 the next best thing so when now you're going after that and not even for any real reason i can't find

00:27:05.380 anyone sensible who's actually raised a concern about this you have gone too far we have to take

00:27:11.660 a break when we come back we will speak to conservative mp michael barrett the latest in

00:27:15.920 the we investigation which even if the liberals don't want it to go on is still existing in some

00:27:22.220 form we'll talk about that up next here on the andrew lawton show stay tuned

00:27:26.220 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show

00:27:30.620 welcome back well as you saw and heard last week pierre pauliev and michael barrett last week were

00:27:39.220 raising the issues of the redacted we documents and talking about all of the things that they were

00:27:46.900 finding in them although a lot of the things that they couldn't find because the liberals decided to

00:27:51.200 take the old black highlighter to these things before handing them over and and when justin

00:27:56.180 trudeau prorogued parliament of course it ended up putting a stop to all of the committee work

00:28:01.800 including the committee investigating the we scandal the scandal in which justin trudeau

00:28:07.560 was handing out giant massive contracts to people that have been paying his family members

00:28:13.400 and bringing bill morneau on vacations and cozying up with liberal staff and all of these other things

00:28:19.180 and the fact is that without the parliamentary oversight of this a lot of people are questioning

00:28:24.700 what can still be done so i want to talk about this with michael barrett he joins me on the line

00:28:30.360 now he's a conservative member of parliament from ontario and also the conservative ethics critic

00:28:35.700 michael good to talk to you thanks very much for coming on today thanks for having me here andrew

00:28:40.340 ethics critic that's pretty much a full-time job with this government isn't it

00:28:43.860 yeah absolutely and it's no uh surprise that the ethics commissioner's office um has had uh job

00:28:51.620 postings uh in in the summer of scandal 2020 with uh with all that's going on so we hear often from

00:28:58.920 justin trudeau that he works closely with the uh ethics commissioner and i think that they should

00:29:05.220 probably just get someone uh on retainer or or maybe put a direct door between the two offices they

00:29:10.760 have to visit so often so yeah for for my part it's uh it's busy we saw the press conference last

00:29:16.500 week with you and your colleague in the conservative caucus pierre pauliev going through

00:29:20.600 a number of those uh release documents from we a great many of them redacted and and the liberals

00:29:26.980 have tried to use the release of those documents in some way to defend against shutting down the

00:29:33.380 committee investigation i was hoping you could set the record straight here what work can actually

00:29:38.440 continue over the course of the summer with parliament prorogued well i'll first note that

00:29:44.220 on those documents that uh the prime minister and other liberals have trumpeted as this great measure

00:29:49.480 of transparency um the the documents came redacted and so uh which is which is contrary to the

00:29:56.520 committee's order they had they had um allowed for the law clerk uh sufficient time to do redactions

00:30:02.920 for privacy purposes you know in someone's uh you know personal phone number name uh that kind of

00:30:08.600 thing uh but they came with uh with substantial redactions from the government so that's that's

00:30:13.960 the first point um the next is that uh while i am the ethics critic and i was a member of the

00:30:21.400 standing committee that was that was uh doing this uh this investigation uh all of the committees

00:30:27.560 effectively cease to exist once parliament is prorogued so no witnesses can be called no further

00:30:32.840 documents can be ordered um none of those a formal uh parliamentary uh um tools can be taken out of

00:30:41.640 the toolbox uh i hear from a lot of folks that they say well there should be a vote of non-confidence

00:30:46.680 because justin trudeau is prorogued well we we have no opportunity to do that until the house

00:30:52.840 uh reconvenes and uh and and then of course see what he has on offer so the short answer to your

00:30:57.880 question is uh the opposition um the the best tool that we have is a microphone and uh and talking

00:31:04.280 to uh and talking to journalists like yourself when parliament does resume can the committee resume

00:31:10.360 its work or is it really going back to start from zero yeah back to zero so the the committees

00:31:15.560 will be reconstituted uh all of the members will need to be reappointed to those committees or or

00:31:20.680 not uh then the motion to initiate hearings or a study and uh and um and then to write a report

00:31:29.640 and to get the documents and and to order witnesses all of those things have to start from

00:31:35.240 from square one so if you have this prorogation which halts this investigation into the government

00:31:42.760 i mean how can canadians have any confidence that there is a willingness to have the investigation

00:31:48.200 to have the hearing of facts from the government which has always been their their official line

00:31:52.440 that oh yes we want everyone to look into it and and have added and justin trudeau made this big

00:31:57.160 magnanimous stand saying that he was agreeing to appear as a witness but that really doesn't amount

00:32:02.520 to all that much if the testimony goes into a black hole well that's right and and we said it before and

00:32:08.920 this is very much a uh prorogation uh to cover up uh this scandal and we have uh we have the

00:32:18.040 independent officers of parliament who are looking at this and there are many you know this matter has

00:32:22.360 been referred to the the ethics commissioner uh to the procurement ombudsman to the privacy commissioner uh

00:32:29.000 to uh elections canada and to the royal canadian mounted police i think i'm leaving one out but there's a lot

00:32:34.840 so those are all happening but but members of parliament have a responsibility to be a check

00:32:40.280 against the power of the executive that's our role as as members all members of the house who don't sit

00:32:46.040 in government that's their job and um it is very damaging to our democratic institutions when we have

00:32:53.240 a prime minister and a government who um so blatantly um you know throw transparency uh to the wayside

00:33:02.200 and uh you know and and you don't flat out um mislead canadians they lie to canadians when they

00:33:08.520 say that you know well they've got all of the you know opposition members have all of the information

00:33:12.920 and they can they can read that and continue to ask us questions that's what justin trudeau said when

00:33:16.680 he prorogued uh parliament so i'm not sure um what time the prime minister is is prepared to take my

00:33:22.760 questions today or tomorrow um because uh because with the chamber locked with committee rooms locked um that

00:33:30.760 uh that check that the opposition is is to exercise on the government uh isn't available

00:33:38.120 you mentioned that a microphone becomes the primary tool in the opposition's toolbox right now

00:33:43.800 what have the more explosive aspects of these documents revealed i i know we heard uh in some cases

00:33:50.600 from you and mr polyev last week about some of the lines from the bureaucrats but has there really been

00:33:56.200 a smoking gun or anything you'd characterize as such in these well i i think that the contention

00:34:03.480 that this was something that was uh imagined by or or first initiated by the public service has been

00:34:10.600 proven to be false so um we've heard over and over again from ministers and the prime minister and his

00:34:16.680 chief of staff that this was recommended by the non-partisan professional public service right it was

00:34:23.160 recommended after uh after uh the we organization wrote the proposal so of course they were the only

00:34:30.120 one who can deliver on it the the the we organization was the only organization that could deliver on we's

00:34:35.880 proposal and uh and we know that there was uh there were conversations with officials with ministers and

00:34:43.720 this we organization that were um denied in in sworn testimony and so this this idea uh that this was

00:34:53.800 you know just one morning a public servant woke up said this is going to be a billion dollar contract

00:34:58.760 it's going to go to cabinet it gets um it gets approved in in a few weeks time it's it's too incredible

00:35:06.200 to believe so um the the the problem is is that the ministers uh the prime minister his chief of staff

00:35:12.920 they've gone to great efforts to muddy the water and what this comes down to andrew is an organization

00:35:18.760 that gave members of the prime minister's family more than half a million dollars and the government

00:35:23.720 then gave that organization a half a billion dollars in that same government there's a finance minister

00:35:29.400 who accepted more than forty thousand dollars in illegal gifts from this organization so um that's

00:35:34.280 what this boils down to and that's what um canadians need to need to consider when justin trudeau

00:35:39.400 talks about doing a reset he's not looking to reset his legislative agenda he's looking to uh

00:35:44.280 change the channel uh reset the story from from this this huge scandal another story that came out

00:35:51.240 recently the husband of justin trudeau's chief of staff katie telford her husband rob silver had

00:35:57.080 apparently lobbied the finance minister's office for changes to the wage subsidy program

00:36:01.960 he's not a registered lobbyist thankfully his pursuit of changes was not successful but there does

00:36:07.720 seem to be that this culture of nepotism and you know a wink and a nod to get into uh some office

00:36:14.120 where someone could give you what you want well that's right and we and and when the question was

00:36:19.080 asked if uh mr silver had contacted uh finance department officials or the prime minister's office

00:36:26.520 there was no response and it wasn't until it was revealed that there were these um previously

00:36:32.920 unreported lobbying interactions by an by a then unregistered uh lobbyist um it it's uh it should

00:36:41.560 cause people great concern uh that that we have um in the in the in the halls of power some people have

00:36:49.240 been given a hall pass uh because of who they know and that's that's the pattern that we've seen with

00:36:55.640 the trudeau liberals they put their um they put their friends first and when anyone calls them out

00:37:00.760 when anyone calls them out um they punish them they punish them as an enemy we saw that in the

00:37:05.160 criminal prosecution of snc lavalon where the prime minister was found to have interfered

00:37:09.160 and uh the then attorney general um jody wilson raybold um she she called it for what it was

00:37:16.120 and she was fired dr jane philpot then the treasury board president saw what was happening um

00:37:21.720 wouldn't be a part of it she was fired and we we see this time and again so it's no wonder that

00:37:27.800 around the cabinet table few have the courage to stand up to the prime minister um and that's why

00:37:32.600 the official opposition believes that more than a few faces need to change around that table and as

00:37:37.880 you mentioned these are precisely the questions and issues that can't be raised right now when there's

00:37:41.880 no question period no committee and no parliamentary mechanism yep that's that's absolutely right

00:37:47.720 conservatives called for the house to sit over the summer in a modified fashion to respect public

00:37:51.880 health guidelines but it's essential that the government is held to account when we have uh

00:37:57.320 opposition members who who give their input who give the feedback from their constituents uh to the

00:38:03.320 and and input that into the process we get better outcomes for all canadians and um this government

00:38:09.960 certainly has demonstrated that they can't operate without uh scrutiny and uh and it doesn't seem like

00:38:16.680 there's any adults in the room so it is very important that uh that parliament reconvene and um

00:38:22.360 and you know frankly uh we should have been in session all summer conservative mp michael barrett

00:38:27.320 thank you very much for your time michael thanks have a great day that was michael barrett thank you

00:38:33.320 very much again to michael and that about does it for me for today my thanks to all of you for tuning

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Juno News - August 26, 2020

Diluting Conservatism vs. Selling Conservatism

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