Juno News - Disgraceful： Canadian fans boo the American national anthem

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00:00:46 we have so much planned in terms of content really getting ready for the election because

00:00:52 i believe this will be the most important election of our lives this is really a fork in the road for

00:00:58 canada we have two options in front of us right we have another term of liberals yes it won't be

00:01:04 justin trudeau probably looks like it will be mark carney and a continuation of the sort of

00:01:11 left-wing socialist government this idea that the government knows best that they're ruled by

00:01:16 experts who tell us what to do we don't really have a say they have their priorities which are

00:01:21 a woke agenda, a green agenda, sort of de-industrializing Canada and putting us on a

00:01:26 path to be a lot like the declining countries of Western Europe. Or we have another option,

00:01:32 which is what is being presented to us by Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives, something different,

00:01:38 a change. And, you know, we're still learning more about Pierre Polyev. We're still trying

00:01:43 to understand what a Polyev government would look like. Is it going to be a conservative,

00:01:48 a significantly more conservative government, something more like the American First Movement

00:01:53 in the States with Trump? Or is it going to be something more like the polite, centrist,

00:01:58 progressive conservatives? I hope it's more like the former. But again, we're still getting to know

00:02:02 Pierre Polyev. And we're going to get to all of that in the show today. We're going to talk

00:02:06 about the disgraceful, I think, performance by the Canadian fans in Montreal over the weekend

00:02:12 booing the American National Anthem. What a disgrace. Terrible to see. We'll talk a little

00:02:17 bit about Pierre Polyev's Canada First rally that he held in Ottawa on Saturday. What a great look.

00:02:23 What an impressive looking event with just so many people and really sounding like a leader Pierre

00:02:29 Polyev is. We'll talk about a gaffe, I think. Mark Carney told a podcast that he's a globalist and

00:02:36 an elitist. Unbelievable. It looks like the Conservatives are up in the polls. So we'll talk

00:02:41 about that. We'll talk about some crime updates and an update on the prerogation story. So you

00:02:46 know that the Trudeau government probe parliament, there is a case being put forth to the courts to

00:02:54 determine whether or not that was legal or not. And we had a True North reporter, Alex Zoltan,

00:03:00 who was in Ottawa covering that case. Alex is a journalist, author, documentary filmmaker,

00:03:05 and he's the crime reporter for True North Wire. Very pleased to be joined for the show today

00:03:10 by Alex Zoltan. Alex, welcome to the program.

00:03:13 well thank you for having great yeah so let's before we get to your reports on the prorogation

00:03:18 i just want to walk the audience through what happened with this team canada i just i absolutely

00:03:25 drives me crazy to see this i don't like i don't like seeing canadian fans we've seen it many many

00:03:29 times in cities across canada for hockey games and basketball games and now we have um the

00:03:35 The Team Canada is facing off against Team U.S. in Montreal on Saturday evening.

00:03:42 And they even had to warn the audience to be respectful of the national anthems.

00:03:46 After that warning, this is what we saw.

00:03:48 This is the display that we saw.

00:03:50 Let's play that clip.

00:04:05 so it's it's fascinating alex because you know even during the cold war uh canada would play

00:04:17 hockey games against the russians and i don't believe that they had the reaction like this

00:04:21 right the americans are our allies they are our neighbors our closest trading partner and our

00:04:26 friends everyday canadians and everyday americans have a heck of a lot in common but our political

00:04:31 classes are getting into this argument this spur and the sort of mob mentality of the Canadians is

00:04:38 I now hate my American neighbor I now hate my American friend and they they can't control 1.00

00:04:43 themselves enough um to to boo like this I thought it was so disgraceful um so let's continue with 0.99

00:04:49 the story because after that ridiculous pathetic display in my mind just no class just completely 0.96

00:04:56 completely embarrassing for our country uh well the game started off and what a game it was because 0.78

00:05:01 within nine seconds of starting three fights broke out so it seems that the americans weren't too

00:05:06 happy with these canadians booing their national anthem and you know they took it out uh with with

00:05:12 the gloves off on the ice so here's what that looked like this is underway and the gloves are

00:05:19 off. Matthew Kachuk and Brandon Hagel. This was set up. And here they come right here,

00:05:27 right. Right before the first Kachuk fight, this was set up. Here you go. Coaches and

00:05:34 players on both sides said they hoped it wouldn't happen tonight. It did. It helps

00:05:38 in the tone. Charlie McAvoy put one on net. Now we're nine seconds in. We had a fight

00:05:45 two seconds and another one one second later now in the center of the action it's colt pareko and

00:05:52 jt miller spilling out onto the ice and i know fighting is part of the game and a lot of people

00:05:59 like that aspect of the game uh but to me it was like you know their their emotions couldn't be

00:06:03 contained i can't imagine the electricity in the building after going through that having your

00:06:09 national anthem booed like look i'm a patriotic canadian i love my country if i was in the united

00:06:13 States and they were booing my Canadian national anthem, I would be furious. So I understand. And

00:06:17 I have sympathy and respect for the Americans that took it out that way. Oh yeah. And the Team USA

00:06:23 ended up beating Team Canada 3-1. I don't think I've ever cheered for the Americans in a hockey

00:06:28 game in my entire life against Team Canada. I can't say I was cheering for the Americans,

00:06:32 but I think that Canada deserved that. I think Canadians deserved to lose because of the attitude

00:06:37 and the behavior that they displayed. Look, Alex, my perspective is that this is all an artificial

00:06:43 manufactured story that the legacy media and the Liberal Party want this trade war. They want

00:06:49 Canadians to be worked up and fighting that against the Americans because it helps them 0.99

00:06:53 in the polls. And Canadians shouldn't engage. We should look through it, realize that, yes,

00:06:58 this is a trade dispute. Canada is not completely the angels in this situation. We are in the wrong

00:07:04 when it comes to a lot of the subsidies and the breaks that we give. We don't have free trade.

00:07:09 we don't have a free market here. And a lot of that is our fault. Some of it's the Americans as 0.99

00:07:14 well. But there's two sides to the story, right? And this idea that we should just hate the

00:07:18 Americans, that we should boo the national anthem and fight them. I think it's terrible. What are

00:07:22 your thoughts? Well, I heard a saying many, many years ago that I found very interesting, where

00:07:27 somebody prospected that hockey is Canada's time to act like Americans. So we're generally very

00:07:34 polite. We're generally very deferential. When we watch hockey, we become rude, we become impolite,

00:07:39 we become a bit more aggressive a bit more violent and so i think that if we look at this

00:07:44 um as a bit more of a one-off i mean booing generally is fun especially when you're watching

00:07:53 sports so i have a little bit of forgiveness in that respect i think that sports arenas are one

00:07:59 of those places where you can be a little bit more disrespectful that being said i understood that

00:08:03 the person who was doing the anthem was a veteran and so i think that that is makes the situation a

00:08:08 bit more egregious to your point and i'm trying to look at this a bit more holistically and a bit

00:08:12 forgivingly yeah i get it that when you're at a sports game maybe you're you know you're having

00:08:17 a couple drinks and you're with your buddies and that you know you let your kind of wild uh side

00:08:22 out to to me though it's it's just like they've inserted politics into sports the the thing about

00:08:27 sports is supposed to be escape from an escape from that and so when you have this like political

00:08:32 agenda that you know is manufactured right you know that it's there to help the trudeau liberals

00:08:38 with their polls because the more that this issue is spoken about the more the issue is focused on

00:08:42 the better that they do and the the liberals are so good at this right they're like maniacally evil

00:08:48 but they're good at this they're good at whipping up the mood of the country to suit their political

00:08:53 agenda we saw during covid and i feel like this is just like covid all over again yeah i definitely

00:08:58 get that sense as well but i also am old enough to remember in the late 90s i think it was donovan

00:09:03 Bailey and Johnson. There was a lot of friendly competition between Canada and the United States

00:09:09 and a variety of different arenas including hockey and racing and other sports and friendly

00:09:13 competition. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I think that that's good but I

00:09:17 also agree that it's important to remain respectful. Yeah I want to show a couple of

00:09:22 tweets that I thought picked up the mood really well. So the first one was an account called DC

00:09:25 Drain. You should follow them on X. Huge account run by an individual named Brogan O'Handley. He's

00:09:30 got millions and millions of followers and he posted this he says i know this tariff battle

00:09:34 has got canadians seemingly pitted against americans but i want to make something clear

00:09:38 for the record our beef is not with the canadian people it is with the liberal canadian government

00:09:43 terrorizing the canadian people tens of millions of americans appreciate the canadian truckers

00:09:48 for what they did to destroy covid protocols worldwide we are now fighting their hostile

00:09:53 government to help liberate you well i don't know about that last i don't think that we need

00:09:56 any help liberating ourselves although if uh if mark carney becomes the next elected prime minister

00:10:02 i think maybe at that point we might but uh the point is i think that you know we can get past

00:10:09 the politics of it all we all probably agree on a lot more than we disagree with another one is

00:10:14 our friends over at resistance coffee company and they wrote this on x we're an overtly canadian

00:10:19 company and unapologetically reject all of the anti-american sentiment we're seeing it's naive

00:10:25 pathetic and immature this is an artificial narrative political elites are using to maintain

00:10:30 power we want nothing to do with it yes yes i completely agree with that what are your thoughts 0.90

00:10:37 well i also understand that the cost to attend this game was very high i think it was somewhere

00:10:41 in the vixen or the somewhere between 800 and a thousand dollars for one ticket so similar to

00:10:47 maybe a taylor swift concert or something like that so i imagine it was a lot of elites that

00:10:51 were there a lot of people who um maybe are liberal donors perhaps i don't know if it's a

00:10:57 fair representation of canadians generally yeah fair enough it's sad how canadian sporting events

00:11:03 i know it's like that to go to a maple leafs game as well and then you go to leafs game and

00:11:06 everyone's wearing a suit and people are on their phones not even watching it's it's it's not like

00:11:11 the hockey games i grew up watching well i want to segue that into this canada first rally that we

00:11:16 saw in ottawa so pierre polyev you know many people are saying that he gave the speech of

00:11:21 his life that he really rose to the occasion that he looked and sounded like a prime minister

00:11:25 you can see he's back wearing his uh you know nice tailored suits um and he's he's gotten away

00:11:31 from the sort of like t-shirt and aviator glasses that look that he was he was going for a while

00:11:36 uh he came out and i i think i think that the imagery uh sean do we have any b-roll of this

00:11:41 you know the imagery of of Pierre Polyev uh going out there with the huge maple leaf the big

00:11:48 um backdrop there a huge vibrant uh crowd really really enthusiastic he had his beautiful wife Anna

00:11:56 introduce him and you really got to see a softer side of Pierre another side of him and then he

00:12:01 came out and he gave a big speech you know talking about his his big plans for Canada how he would

00:12:07 put canada first going through his priorities uh you know overall it it seemed like a speech by

00:12:13 someone who's winning a campaign right like you can compare that to uh what mark carney is doing

00:12:19 and uh you know pauliev it just looks like a winning campaign you can see there the big beautiful

00:12:25 maple leaf behind him uh like a huge huge crowd of people there i think there was tens of thousands

00:12:32 of people in attendance um and really he he he sounded great so uh the the focus of his campaign

00:12:40 unfortunately of the speech unfortunately went back to what i think is this manufacturer narrative

00:12:45 this idea that the tariffs are coming that we're in a trade war with the americans that is

00:12:49 unavoidable and that the only thing that we can do is basically turn our backs to the americans

00:12:54 and try to find new partners try to find new allies and try to find new trading partners i

00:12:58 I don't think that's the right approach, Alex.

00:13:00 I still think that Canada's best approach

00:13:02 is to lean into our friendship with the Americans

00:13:04 and find a way to make a deal with Trump

00:13:06 because the things that he wants

00:13:07 are the things that we want too, right?

00:13:09 We want more secure borders.

00:13:11 We want drugs off our streets.

00:13:13 We want free trade, not all of these subsidies

00:13:15 and all of these basically special deals for insiders

00:13:20 and subsidies for Canadian companies.

00:13:23 Like all of the things that Trump is asking for, we do too.

00:13:26 So I'll play a few clips.

00:13:28 First, Pierre Polyev said that he would enact retaliatory tariffs on on any tariffs imposed by the United States.

00:13:37 We already knew this. But here is a clip of him saying that retaliation is only the beginning.

00:13:43 Retaliation is only the beginning. Yes, we need to retaliate.

00:13:46 If they put tariffs on our steel and aluminum, I will put tariffs on their steel and aluminum.

00:13:52 them. If they hit us with generalized tariffs, we will respond dollar for dollar. Yes, we will

00:14:00 carefully target American goods that we don't need, can produce ourselves, or we can get elsewhere

00:14:05 to maximize the impact on Americans while minimizing the impact on ourselves.

00:14:12 I think that's a bit of a pipe dream that we can harm them without them harming us. Of course,

00:14:16 our economy is much, much bigger and much less reliant on ours. But, you know, he's saying what

00:14:21 he's got to say, I guess. Next, we had Pierre Polly of adding this line, which is a little bit

00:14:26 of a dig against Americans, quoting Winston Churchill here. Let's play that clip. As Winston

00:14:32 Churchill said, though, you can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after exhausting

00:14:39 all other possibilities. I guess it was a clever line. I thought it was unnecessary. What do you

00:14:49 think, Alex? I think it's very funny. And I actually agree with Paul Yev and respectfully

00:14:54 disagree a little bit with what you had to say, because I actually don't think that Trump cares

00:14:58 whether we have drugs off of our street or not. He certainly hasn't said as much.

00:15:02 He is simply saying that he wants fentanyl to quit flowing in over the northern border,

00:15:07 a claim that I actually find rather nebulous and dubious. I think that there's a bit of a

00:15:13 logical leap that some people are making that Trump wants what's best for Canada. That's not

00:15:17 what he said. He said that he wants Canada to stop pouring fentanyl into the United States,

00:15:23 which again, I don't think that that claim necessarily holds up to the data on either

00:15:26 the American or the Canadian side. And so I actually agree with Polyev's approach. I know

00:15:32 that it's not necessarily popular, but I think that it's the right approach. And I also remember

00:15:36 that Polyev saying something at a presser I attended, where he said, it's inexcusable if

00:15:40 the issue is over fentanyl to impose a 10% tariff on China and a 25% tariff on Canada.

00:15:46 in what world does that possibly make sense if your biggest concern is because they already

00:15:50 they already did the tariff on china right so the time when it came in during trump's first

00:15:55 administration canada didn't have a tariff of that back then so they already have a 25 tariff

00:15:59 that came in during trump point 1.0 and then now there's an additional 10 so so it's not it's not

00:16:05 just 10 versus canada it's just an increase on what he had already done and yeah sure trump's

00:16:10 not out there looking to take care of canada but the reality alex is that we share a hemisphere we

00:16:15 share the Northern North America. And so if there's rampant drug use and drug manufacturing

00:16:21 and fentanyl labs across Canada, like we found these super labs. I had Sam Cooper on my show

00:16:26 last week and he walked me through in great detail how China is creating and moving all 0.99

00:16:32 these drugs, working with like a United Nations of transnational gangsters from countries like

00:16:39 India, Iran, China, Mexico, all operating in Canada. Trump very much has it in his interest

00:16:47 to shut that down. Like, it's a lot harder to close down our huge shared border with the United

00:16:52 States than it is to just get it under control in Canada in the first place. And I do think it's a

00:16:57 big problem. I think that the stats that we see going around, like, oh, less than 1% comes from

00:17:01 Canada, that's a manufactured narrative, right? That's just based on what they find, because we

00:17:06 have, again, like an unmanned border, right? So you can cross the border into the United States

00:17:09 from Canada, most of the time without being checked. Whereas in Mexico, everyone's going 0.98

00:17:14 to get checked. So it's not apples to apples. And to Sam's point as well, less than 5% of the

00:17:19 containers that leave from Canadian ports get checked. So 95% of them are going completely

00:17:23 unchecked. And that's a lot of the ways that they are distributing it. So just because it's not

00:17:28 being caught, that's part of the problem, right? We don't have the efforts needed to crack down on

00:17:33 this because we don't take it seriously. Yes, yes and no. So the Cato Institute did a really

00:17:38 great study where they showed that 90% of the fentanyl that is seized comes over across legal

00:17:43 points of entry on the northern border. That, of course, is a shared responsibility as well.

00:17:48 So if the drugs are pouring in, then it's as much the Americans' fault as it is our fault to some

00:17:53 extent. Also, one of the ways that you could backtest the theory that there may be a lot of

00:17:57 people crossing over illegally carrying fentanyl would be to look at how many people who have

00:18:01 crossed over illegally and been caught doing so, how many of them possessed fentanyl? And the

00:18:06 amount who possessed any fentanyl at all was 0.02%. So I really do find this claim that fentanyl is

00:18:14 pouring in from Canada into the United States to be a nebulous one, and one not supported either

00:18:19 by the data or by the way that the economy and the supply and demand dynamics work when it comes

00:18:26 to fentanyl. So I was talking to a journalist in Seattle, her name is Katie Daviscord, and she's

00:18:31 done quite a bit of research into this subject. And you can actually buy a gram of fentanyl in

00:18:36 Seattle for a fraction of the cost of buying it in Vancouver. And the reason for that is very

00:18:40 simple. The United States has a lot more fentanyl flowing in from Mexico, whereas Canada really just

00:18:45 has domestic production. We don't have any direct competitors. So you can sell fentanyl for a

00:18:50 premium in Canada versus the United States. So it would be, you'd almost be crazy or stupid to take 1.00

00:18:56 lot of fentanyl in a truck over the land border from canada to the united states i i truly don't 0.97

00:19:02 believe that this claim really holds up to scrutiny or the data or statistics okay so if

00:19:07 you don't think that it's over fentanyl like what do you think this is all over then i think that

00:19:13 i think we certainly do have a domestic ventanil problem i don't think anybody's going to deny that

00:19:17 and it's a tragedy and it's a generational concern it's very very important i think that part of it

00:19:23 it is, is that he doesn't like the administration. He doesn't like the Trudeau government. And it's

00:19:28 hard to blame him for that. Who does? Look at their polling numbers here in Canada. But I think

00:19:33 that a lot of this is really quite petty. And I think it is a logical leap to say that, well,

00:19:38 if Trump wants fentanyl to stop pouring in from Canada, which again, I don't necessarily think

00:19:43 is an accurate claim, then that means that what he really wants is for us to get rid of fentanyl

00:19:47 within Canada to save Canadians. He's not saying that. And I think it's a bit of a bit of a leap

00:19:53 to assume that that's what he means, right?

00:19:56 Well, yeah, I'll take the point

00:19:58 that it's a lot more expensive to produce it in Canada

00:20:01 and that it's a shared responsibility.

00:20:03 I would prefer, Alex,

00:20:04 that we didn't have a completely closed border,

00:20:07 that we didn't have every single vehicle

00:20:09 and truck being inspected,

00:20:10 that there was just a level of trust

00:20:12 between the two countries,

00:20:13 that we have similar standards

00:20:15 and that we have similar concerns.

00:20:17 And so to your point about the administration,

00:20:18 I think that if we had an administration

00:20:20 that was harder and firmer on crime,

00:20:22 on immigration, on terrorism, that that would give them assurances that we wouldn't need to

00:20:28 completely like militarize our border and have checks. I don't know if you've ever crossed the

00:20:32 U.S.-Mexico border by car. I have several times. And it's wild, like compared to the experience

00:20:37 of doing it in Canada, where, you know, you just hop in the car with the family, go through,

00:20:41 show them your passports or whatever, and you're through. In Mexico, like it's like they get you, 1.00

00:20:45 you get out of the car and they search everything in every bag. And like, it's more intense than

00:20:49 going through an airport security. So I would never want that for Canadians. And I think that

00:20:54 the best way to do that is to maintain a strong relationship of shared values, not turning our

00:20:59 backs to the Americans. Okay, I want to move on to some of the... If I could just add one more thing 0.70

00:21:04 to that, actually, which I thought was interesting. So somebody, when I was on my way back from

00:21:07 Ottawa, somebody who was sitting next to me, they work on yacht motors in the Cayman Islands.

00:21:12 And they were saying that a lot of the drugs comes in through the ports on private boats.

00:21:16 And one of the reasons for that is that if you're if you're close to getting caught, you just ditch the drugs into the sea.

00:21:22 So he says this is actually the preferred method for traffickers versus taking it over the land border.

00:21:28 And also, as you correctly noted, they don't do a lot of checks at the port either.

00:21:32 So I think that there's it actually shook my trust a little bit in my faith in the Trump administration that this claim that a bunch of fentanyl was coming over across the northern border was given as much airtime as it was.

00:21:45 because i i really don't think that the claim holds up to scrutiny or critical thinking

00:21:49 interesting okay let's move on i want to talk about christia frayland because she 0.96

00:21:52 shared on x a picture of pierre polyev walking onto the stage at his canada first rally and

00:21:59 basically just said that it was the same as donald trump uh wondering uh she writes we're wondering

00:22:05 where we've seen this movie before and then she posts a picture do we have the picture there sean

00:22:11 of basically just Pierre Poliev with the Canada flag.

00:22:17 No, I guess we don't.

00:22:18 And then you can take that down, Sean.

00:22:20 And then Trump with the American one.

00:22:23 So I guess if you have a flag and you do a rally,

00:22:27 that must mean that you're just like Trump.

00:22:30 I want to move on.

00:22:31 So Mark Carney came out.

00:22:33 This was pretty wild to me.

00:22:35 So on Saturday morning, he did an interview on a podcast

00:22:37 called The Rest is Politics with Alistair Campbell

00:22:40 and Anthony Scarmucci.

00:22:42 So Alistair Campbell is a British journalist

00:22:43 and he was a former political staffer

00:22:46 and strategist for Tony Blair and the Labour government.

00:22:49 And then Anthony Scarmucci was a very, very short-lived

00:22:53 DCOM, Director of Communications

00:22:54 for the Trump administration,

00:22:56 the first time President Trump was in office.

00:22:58 They host a podcast.

00:22:59 They had Mark Carney on there.

00:23:01 And watching this podcast, basically they asked,

00:23:04 hey, what are your greatest strengths and weaknesses?

00:23:06 Which, you know, is a pretty standard,

00:23:08 straightforward question for a politician,

00:23:10 you'd think that he'd have a good answer planned.

00:23:13 I don't think this is a good answer.

00:23:14 Let's play that clip.

00:23:19 My strength is I know how the world works.

00:23:21 I know how to get things done.

00:23:22 I'm connected, I can deliver for the country.

00:23:25 And my weakness is, you know, people will charge me

00:23:28 as being elitist or, you know, a globalist

00:23:32 to use that term, which is, well, that's exactly,

00:23:35 you know, it happens to be exactly what we need.

00:23:38 So he's a globalist. He's an elitist. I think that he was using those terms to mock his critics, basically saying that they'll call me that and then kind of laughing it off. But then he pivots and says, but that's exactly what we need, which kind of goes to emphasize and score that he actually does believe that he's an elitist and globalist. And that's what's good for the country. So you're going to get like another four years of rule by expert, rule by elite, Mark Carney. I think that was a pretty disastrous way to answer that question.

00:24:08 question. What did you think, Alex? Oh, I completely agree. And it always amuses me how

00:24:13 little central bankers do. I mean, when you think about it, all they do is they take the data that

00:24:19 was gathered by other people who are smarter than they are, and then they just make a wild guess

00:24:24 three or four times a year, either up or down, based off of that data that other people collected.

00:24:29 Central bankers are not experts really in anything. They're just professional guessers.

00:24:34 and it's interesting so i want to link this to another story we had mark carney was on cbc with

00:24:40 rosemary barton yesterday sunday february 16th and he he he said something that i don't

00:24:49 think or true he says that former prime minister stephen harper once asked him to be the finance

00:24:55 minister um so he he basically just said that back in 2012 harper was in some way trying to recruit

00:25:02 him to be the finance minister and he says that it wasn't appropriate because at the time he was a

00:25:08 bureaucrat um first okay let's play this clip and then i'll get you to react to it it's politics

00:25:14 right now have you been offered positions in the past i have been offered positions in the past

00:25:19 i was offered for example prime minister harper asked me if i would be his finance minister

00:25:25 uh in 2012 wasn't appropriate to proceed with that i didn't so as we know he was the governor

00:25:31 of the bank of canada and then he moved over and became the governor of the bank of england and

00:25:36 started sort of a career in english banking and politics uh so kind of strange but all of a sudden

00:25:41 he's saying that at the time harper was trying to recruit him i don't remember that story at all

00:25:46 harper's former communications director dimitri sutis denied this claim in a cbc report he wrote

00:25:52 that mark carney is not telling the whole story and prime minister harper certainly does not

00:25:57 support Mr. Carney in any way. Dimitri Soudis also shared on Axe a link to a story from back

00:26:05 in 2012 in the Globe and Mail. The story is called How the Liberal Party Lost Mark Carney.

00:26:11 But the point of the article, if you read it, is that Mark Carney was very much in the orbit of

00:26:16 the Liberal Party at that time in 2012. He was a party member, he was part of the party,

00:26:21 he wasn't a conservative, he wasn't in Harper's circle or Harper's orbit. So it's sort of a

00:26:26 strange claim um to put out there what do you think alex he's a strange guy generally i mean

00:26:33 generally ministers of finance also are elected it seems strange to me that he wants to become

00:26:38 the prime minister without having made any effort at any time in his lifetime of trying to be elected

00:26:45 in any capacity whatsoever kind of seems like he's jumping the coop a little bit there typically you

00:26:51 become a member of parliament or you get active at the local level uh it is really characteristic

00:26:58 of an elitist to want to just jump straight to position a prime minister without ever having

00:27:03 ever been elected to anything as small as even school council yeah and and to your point that

00:27:09 like the central banker has a very kind of public role but it's not like he he's acting alone and

00:27:16 And it's not like a politician where you have to lead a party or, you know, get elected by the people.

00:27:23 It's like, it's an appointed job. It's a very high profile job.

00:27:26 I don't think that he has a great track record in either country with the printing of money, borrowing, raising interest rates, all those things that you mentioned.

00:27:34 But kind of a strange thing to slip in there.

00:27:36 I think that probably he wants Canadians to think that he is sort of like a bipartisan pick and that he's not as hard left as Trudeau, not as right as Pierre Polyev, kind of the Goldilocks approach there that he's just right.

00:27:52 One thing that I think had a lot of conservatives feeling a little hopeful about is, so we covered this on the show on Friday, but the polls have shown, since Justin Trudeau resigned and Mark Carney has become the sort of person that looks like he's going to be the next prime minister, the liberals' fortunes have been increasing in the polls.

00:28:10 So polls have slowly shown liberals chipping away at the conservatives and Pierre Polyev's massive lead.

00:28:15 Well, there was a new series of polls put out by Abacus Data, a very reputable polling company, that shows that the Conservatives still lead the Liberals by 19 points.

00:28:26 And so the head of Abacus there, David Coletto, said that he got the results and basically he was so surprised by how big the Conservative lead was that he went back into the field and did another poll just to make sure that what he was seeing was correct.

00:28:42 And the second poll confirmed that. So you can show this graph, Sean, that shows a federal vote intention. Here we have the Conservatives with 46% and the Liberals all the way down at 27%. So if you look back to a January 27th poll, it shows that, yes, the Liberals are doing better, but their gains are coming at the expense of the NDP, the Bloc, and possibly the Green, whereas the Conservatives are also going up.

00:29:10 So he's not. So Mark Carney as leader is not chipping away at the conservative lead, according to Abacus and according to that poll.

00:29:17 So I think there's a lot of conservatives that are very relieved to see that there was a lot of kind of anxiety and concern that maybe with the change in the ballot question,

00:29:26 the idea that maybe the election is not going to be about cost of living, but instead it's going to be about this looming trade war and this new narrative that the media has managed to create in the last couple weeks here,

00:29:34 that that would be very bad for the conservatives. But according again to Abacus, that's not the case.

00:29:40 so what are your thoughts on that well if you go into the streets and you ask people are you

00:29:45 enthusiastic about mark carney i imagine you're not going to get a lot of people saying yes i'm

00:29:49 extremely enthusiastic about mark carney this definitely seems like a mainstream media

00:29:55 fake narrative the idea that mark carney is this there's a carney mania going on is uh

00:30:01 kind of patently ridiculous in my opinion and i'm glad that the polling data from abacus shows that

00:30:06 yeah it's hard to um imagine just like a lot of groundswell support for a wealthy banker that's

00:30:13 swooped in after like being out of the country for several decades i that's just not really the

00:30:18 profile of a politician that you can imagine you know having a lot of popularity among canadians

00:30:23 it seems that the liberals have tried to do this several times and it doesn't work for them

00:30:27 uh but i mean mark carney does seem like i'll get this pretty nice guy he seems like a nice person

00:30:33 um it's just that his ideas are all wrong and his background is wrong and he's arrogant about it and

00:30:39 i i just i don't think that that's going to be appealing i heard him described once as timu

00:30:44 michael ignatiev yeah the liberals have tried this several times and it never seems to work out well

00:30:51 for them and i don't think that this is going to be an exception to the to the rule i completely

00:30:55 agree okay i want to move on to some reactions so as you hopefully everyone's caught this interview

00:31:01 that we did with Pierre Polyev. I flew out to Ottawa and sat down with the Conservative leader.

00:31:06 I think it was the first long form sit down interview he had done since the Jordan Peterson

00:31:10 one that he did at the very beginning of the year. And I just want to sort of talk a little bit about

00:31:15 my takeaway from the interview and a little bit of the media's reaction. So for me, the thing,

00:31:22 first of all, I was delighted that Pierre Polyev would sit down with me and do an interview with

00:31:26 me. I think it was a great sign for independent media that he doesn't believe in the sort of

00:31:30 lockdown club that you have to be part of the parliamentary press gallery or work for a legacy

00:31:35 media press outlet in order to get access to a politician. I think that's the exact correct

00:31:39 step for the future. And it was nice to see that juxtaposed that with the fact that our reporters

00:31:45 weren't even let into the room for Mark Carney's launch event in Edmonton. Even mild-mannered,

00:31:50 polite Isaac Lamoureux, who's from Edmonton, wasn't allowed into the room. So, you know,

00:31:55 huge difference in terms of access. I think that my questions on immigration, asking him about

00:32:03 deportations of illegals, deportation of people who commit violent crimes, you know, he mentioned

00:32:09 specifically people that go to these Gaza rallies and, you know, commit hate crimes and try to burn

00:32:14 down synagogues, all kinds of stuff, that he would have no tolerance for that. And he would deport 0.99

00:32:19 those people and cancel their visas. He talked about how he wanted to get the immigration levels

00:32:23 back down to the Harper era, which some people in our audience will say, well, that's not good

00:32:27 enough. We want to have more of an immigration break. But I think when you think about the fact 1.00

00:32:31 that Justin Trudeau is letting in half a million new permanent residents every year, plus another

00:32:36 million some students and temporary for visas, I think we end up having somewhere in the orbit

00:32:41 between two and three million newcomers a year. And Pierre's saying, let's bring it back down to

00:32:45 200 to 250. I think that that is huge. And I was very pleased to hear him say that. And then this

00:32:53 was the clip that really melted the minds of the legacy media. So I asked him about access to

00:33:00 politicians, like I mentioned, versus the parliamentary press gallery. Like part of the

00:33:04 problem with independent press is that we can't get into the parliamentary press gallery because

00:33:08 it's run by this kind of like mean girl group who don't acknowledge us as real journalists because

00:33:14 we don't work for one of their outlets. So he's saying that those people won't be in charge

00:33:18 anymore and he would let everyone in. So I think we have a little clip of what that looked like.

00:33:23 Let's play that clip, please. The Parliamentary Press Gallery is like an insiders group. They

00:33:27 don't want to give access to people who don't work for legacy media. What would your policy

00:33:31 be around allowing access to your government or to you personally for independent media?

00:33:36 Absolutely. I think their independent media should be allowed on the precinct. There's

00:33:41 no reason why it should be a small cabal of government approved mouthpieces.

00:33:46 So I'll just walk us through what happened there. So first we had TVI journalist Hadi Hassan

00:33:54 shared that clip on X and basically just described what it was in French. We had the

00:34:01 Toronto Star columnist and CBC pundit Chantal Ebert chimed in. She quote tweeted it and wrote

00:34:08 sounds familiar somehow. So I guess that's supposed to be a Trump reference and supposed

00:34:13 make us feel very scared that somehow uh polyev is like a fascist or something um okay and then

00:34:20 next we had uh her toronto star call uh colleague uh sports columnist this guy is like perpetually

00:34:26 miserable and angry bruce arthur he weighs in and he said for the record that is candace malcolm

00:34:33 whose faux news operation true north employs racism and proud boy pusher harrison faulkner

00:34:39 and malcolm co-founded junior with kian bexty rot 0.68

00:34:47 okay one more one more uh then we had a freelance journalist of parliamentary press gallery

00:34:52 member dale smith who's a reporter and he is just really amusing uh he really doesn't like us either

00:34:59 so he he writes on x reminder it's not up to the government to decide who gets gallery membership

00:35:04 the gallery is self-governing and so yeah that's the point like that's what i said i i didn't ask

00:35:09 pierre if he could get us into the parliamentary press gallery i said will you give us access

00:35:13 because the parliamentary press gallery is this insiders club and then uh dale smith added this

00:35:17 he said regarding the interview question true north slash bexy slash juno news haven't been

00:35:23 granted membership because they're not actually journalists okay so i guess i guess we're not

00:35:31 real journalists because we don't know what toe the party line we don't take subsidies from trudeau

00:35:36 you know we're not we're not loyal obedient members of the press like uh him and his friends

00:35:41 are so i actually wear that as a badge of honor uh what did you think oh me as well i completely

00:35:45 agree and i think that there's nothing more banal than a journalist who pretends to be unbiased and

00:35:51 objective nobody is we're all human beings we all have our own internal biases and so i i'm proudly

00:36:00 a bit of a conservative partisan i don't mind admitting that when i write something or when

00:36:05 i'm on a podcast because i think it's important for people to know where i'm coming from

00:36:09 and i think that's actually part of the new media is what makes it superior to mainstream media is

00:36:14 that we don't constrain ourselves to this fake this fake position of neutrality that they do 0.90

00:36:21 because they're not neutral and for them to pretend that they are is is completely ridiculous

00:36:26 and absurd and people are recognizing that and that's why their viewership is down so much and

00:36:30 why chorus entertainment is a penny stock that's probably going to be going out of business as soon

00:36:34 as trudeau is out of office well it's funny because yeah like that was the kind of the hit

00:36:39 that they used to make against me that i was more conservative and to me that's nothing to be

00:36:44 ashamed of i'm proud of the fact that i'm a conservative i'm probably more socially

00:36:48 conservative than either of the mainstream political parties in the country actually

00:36:53 definitely am even more so than the people's party um but that's that's who i am but it's like

00:36:57 i'm not going to pretend that i'm neutral and pretend that i'm rosemary barton to go out there

00:37:02 and give interviews even though we know that she is biased from the left but she just doesn't admit

00:37:06 it and that's that's sort of i think the main difference and you know our news isn't for

00:37:11 everyone um so if you don't like our perspective then you don't have to watch us we're not trying

00:37:15 to force it down your throat and we're not trying to take government subsidies we're not saying that

00:37:19 that everyone should pay for us.

00:37:20 We just want to be able to have the opportunity

00:37:23 to report to our audience that wants to hear news

00:37:26 from our perspective and opinion.

00:37:28 So yeah, I find it funny that they get so worked up

00:37:33 and so upset over us having, just being able to do our job.

00:37:36 Like I don't begrudge them for doing their job.

00:37:39 But I do think part of it definitely is the fact

00:37:41 that we are growing and we have a successful business model

00:37:44 and people are interested in our work.

00:37:46 And I don't think that the same is true for them.

00:37:49 Okay, let's move on.

00:37:50 Alex, you were in Ottawa.

00:37:51 I think we just miss each other.

00:37:52 I think you got there the day that I left,

00:37:55 but you were there to cover this government lawsuit

00:37:59 over the limits of prorogation.

00:38:01 So why don't you give us a quick rundown

00:38:03 on what happened over there?

00:38:04 Yeah, so it was a pretty exciting to me experience.

00:38:08 Most people would find it maybe a little bit boring

00:38:10 because there's a lot of kind of deep legalese

00:38:13 going on there.

00:38:14 It was in the federal court.

00:38:16 So the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms were the council representing two Nova Scotians, one of which was a well-practiced lawyer who are challenging Trudeau's decision to advise the governor general to prorope parliament.

00:38:30 It was a really interesting case. I think my opinion on it has differed a little bit since I came back.

00:38:37 And the reason being is that we have to understand that these decisions cut both ways.

00:38:43 So really, to the Coles Notes version, the question, to put it most simply, is does the government have an unlimited power to prorogue parliament?

00:38:52 In a sense, no. Section 5 says that the government must sit at least once per year.

00:38:58 So no, they don't have an unlimited power, but that means that theoretically they only have to sit once, one day per year.

00:39:04 The rest of the year, theoretically, they could prorogue forever.

00:39:08 We do have a fixed term limit. So that means that they wouldn't be able to avoid an election within at least five years if they were to do that. It wouldn't be a popular choice. But the concern I have is this. So imagine a situation where Pierre Polyev became prime minister with a slim minority. And immediately the liberals in the NDP created a coalition crisis and tried to overthrow his government.

00:39:32 Well, that's what they did in 2006, right?

00:39:33 Exactly, exactly. So this is not unprecedented. If they were to do that again, and Polyev didn't have the option of proroguing, or he did have the option of proroguing, but it could be challenged in the courts, then that presents a very significant danger to the Conservative Party and democracy generally. 79% of the appointed judges in Canada are not only Liberal Party members, they're Liberal Party donors.

00:39:55 And so while I really like this judge, Paul Crampton, who was appointed by Stephen Harper, not all judges are good. And we have to remember that judges are just random lawyers who are appointed by politicians. They're not elected. They're not accountable to the public. And so I think there is some concern, on my part anyway, that it would be a dangerous precedent to have judges drift outside of the legal lane and into the political lane.

00:40:24 That being said, I'm completely sympathetic to the GCCF's concerns. I think that prorogation

00:40:29 is completely unsuitable in the current situation that we're in. I think it only serves the best

00:40:33 interests of the Liberal Party and not Canadians, but I am concerned about the precedent that

00:40:39 a decision might set in this case. And so what was the decision? Like,

00:40:43 are they, was the prorogation overturned? I saw that they were saying that they had to make a

00:40:48 decision before it becomes moot, but it's getting pretty close to that time anyway. So what's going

00:40:52 going to happen next? Yeah, so they said the lead counsel for the Trudeau government said that they

00:40:57 need until at least February 18th to submit responses to the interveners. So I don't think

00:41:02 we'll see any result before then. However, Crampton said that he would be rendering a result well in

00:41:08 advance of March 24th, which I do appreciate. I'm not super optimistic that this case is going to go

00:41:15 through. I think that there's probably a good case for a Section 3 challenge to Carney becoming

00:41:21 prime minister because section three establishes the charter, it establishes as a fundamental right

00:41:28 that Canadians have a right to vote for the people who represent them in government.

00:41:33 And Carney being an unelected prime minister would be rather unprecedented in the history

00:41:37 of Westminster democracies. So I think that there may be a good section three challenge for that,

00:41:43 that might be more appropriate than the challenge from prerogation. But again,

00:41:46 I want to make it very clear, I totally support the JCCF and their concerns. I do, however,

00:41:51 see the Trudeau government lawyer's point that this might establish a bit of a dangerous precedent.

00:41:56 Great. Okay, Alex. Well, I appreciate you heading out to Ottawa and doing that report.

00:42:00 Everyone, you can find Alex's reports at JunoNews.com. He's a True North reporter. And again,

00:42:04 their journalism is published and posted on Juno News. So Alex, thanks so much for joining the

00:42:10 Candace Malcolm Show today. It was great to have you on. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

00:42:14 All right, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in. Again, have a wonderful, happy

00:42:17 family day for those in Ontario and Alberta and everyone else. We will see

00:42:22 you back tomorrow for all the news. Thank you so much.

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