00:00:00.000Since legalizing euthanasia in 2016, Canada has quickly become the country with one of the highest rates of euthanasia in the world.
00:00:12.480And if it wasn't for significant pushback and protests, the Canadian government would have already expanded the euthanasia regime
00:00:18.260to allow people suffering from mental illness and chronic pain to kill themselves at the hands of the state.
00:00:24.400And in 2022, news broke that Veterans Affairs case officers offered death, offered euthanasia as a treatment option to veterans suffering with PTSD.
00:00:34.980Frankly, one of the most disgraceful stories I've ever read.
00:00:37.600Well, our next guest on the Faulkner Show is one of the leading voices in Canada against the expansion of the euthanasia program.
00:00:43.960And as an Afghan war vet who was discharged by the Canadian Armed Forces after being diagnosed with PTSD,
00:00:49.880you could say that this subject is very close to her heart.
00:00:53.080All right, well, joining us now on the Faulkner Show is a Canadian veteran, the CEO of Brass and Unity,
00:01:00.100and the host of the Kelsey Sharon Perspective podcast.
00:01:03.780Kelsey Sharon, thank you so much for joining us.
00:01:06.140Thanks so much for having me, Harrison. I'm happy to be here.
00:01:08.900Right, so for those who follow your work and who know your podcast,
00:01:12.440they will know that you spend a lot of time addressing the expansion of euthanasia in this country.
00:01:17.420It really is one of those subjects that seems to be your main focus.
00:01:21.540What motivated you to be such an outspoken voice about this issue to try to prevent the spread of euthanasia in Canada?
00:01:29.200You know, I think you have these moments in your life where you, people will ask you,
00:01:34.420what did you ever do when the Nazis were around?
00:01:36.960What did you do? What would you have done?
00:01:38.760And I see the regime and the dying with dignity cult as really dark energy that is walking around our earth telling us that we should kill ourselves.
00:01:48.460And I believe that you get these moments in your life where you get to decide how are you going to respond when something serious happens.
00:01:56.780And so for me, it was really simply because they went after veterans first.
00:02:01.080And when you start targeting veterans, I am a veteran.
00:02:04.120And just because I'm not serving anymore does not mean I'm not paying attention to everyone in our community.
00:02:09.620And they started targeting the vulnerable population very quietly and very sneaky.
00:02:15.020And that, to me, signaled that they were doing something that they didn't want anyone to see.
00:02:19.320We've read the reports coming out about the veterans being offered euthanasia.
00:02:26.920According to news reports, it was about five or six veterans who were offered euthanasia by a Veterans Affairs worker.
00:02:34.180And according to Veterans Affairs Canada, it was only one worker who was offering that to veterans who were in need of help.
00:02:42.120Is that accurate or is this practice more widespread in the military?
00:02:45.960And is it worse than what the media and Veterans Affairs are telling us?
00:02:49.320I think we should always remember, Harrison, and I think this is why you exist as well.
00:02:53.820We should always remember that the media lies.
00:02:56.460We should always be looking at this objectively from a non-emotional standpoint, just questioning the facts.
00:03:01.620And the facts are it was at least two case managers in multiple different places in the country and different genders.
00:03:08.560And so it was a male and it was a female.
00:03:16.120And we now have veterans who have recorded their own phone calls or their own letters and their own statements that have been made by Veterans Affairs Canada towards veterans who have been on the chopping block for a long time or have become a burden on the system, i.e.
00:03:29.780they've been in the programs for an extended period of time, just like Christine Gauthier was.
00:03:34.340And that's why she was being offered euthanasia, because let's just be very clear about this right now.
00:04:07.920And the government has been trying to expand this ever since they were able to push this in around 2016.
00:04:15.100They've now wanted to expand it to include people who have mental illnesses, people who are not terminally ill, but have chronic illnesses.
00:04:23.860And I'm just wondering why the federal government even cares about this so much.
00:04:28.480Why are they trying to push this to make it so broad as to basically leave Canada standing alone in the world as one of the most liberal euthanasia regimes in the world?
00:04:39.020Why is this even a policy that the government wants to pursue?
00:04:41.200That's what happens when you over-immigrate a bunch of people and have no help, no support, no networks, and no facilities for anyone.
00:04:49.420You start to chop out the people that are the liability and the burden on the system.
00:04:54.340And people can say that's dramatic, but that's honest to God what's truly happening.
00:04:58.620This is what happens when you read the BC StatsCan report currently just from British Columbia alone.
00:05:05.100They've wanted to expand this for a while, but due to the sunset clause, it couldn't go forward and it got stopped this March.
00:05:10.780But it will, by the looks of it, expand.
00:05:13.600And the way that Dying with Dignity and CAM map, who are the individuals who train all of our doctors, they have trained them to find the loopholes.
00:05:20.840You can look in the BC StatsCan data points.
00:05:24.340With over 2,700 people being killed last year in Canada alone, there was over 50% of those individuals had a comorbidity or other listed on their death certificate.
00:05:34.200And when you look under comorbidity or other, they state it could be diabetes, it could be depression, it could be fragility.
00:05:41.620But they don't give a descriptor of what fragility means to them or what depressive state they're in.
00:05:47.160Because as it states is that there is the track 1 and the track 2.
00:05:50.920And you are supposed to have a terminal illness for one of these tracks, one that is a foreseeable death.
00:05:57.900Part of the way they've been able to scapegoat that or pass that bill, pass these bills and keep pushing this forward,
00:06:05.480is simply because they now have doctors at CAM map that are teaching people that if you just start to deny food and water,
00:06:13.220you will become a candidate and you will become so frail that if you didn't qualify before, now you will qualify.
00:06:48.120Any doctor worth their salt helps people and doesn't spend their whole career ending lives.
00:06:53.120And people like Elaine Weeb, Ellen Weeb in West Broadway, who have some of the highest murder rates.
00:07:00.240And I say murder because when you take someone off the face of the earth that wasn't dying,
00:07:03.800therefore you are, according to the government, non-culpable due to their new, the way that they wrote the laws around maid and euthanasia.
00:07:13.500And that's the problem with Canada here, Harrison, we have to remember is there is no safeguards.
00:07:19.520There is nobody looking at who is making this decision.
00:07:23.200It all falls on what we hope the doctor does the best job at, which is assessing.
00:07:29.420And we know, and we know factually now, people have been assessed and killed who do not qualify under this government.
00:07:37.700So you believe that the expansion of the euthanasia program in Canada is a way to try to control the amount of people who would require health care in our system?
00:07:49.300Are you asking me as if that's not like a realistic thought process?
00:08:03.620I cannot get into a family doctor unless I have one and good luck even trying to find one on top of immigrating half a million people into the country who we do not have a similar culture to.
00:08:13.600And the medical system cannot, if not most doctors I speak to, even understand the people that are walking into their office.
00:08:19.780So one of the problems we're seeing is the everyday Canadian who was born and raised in this country is not getting access to what we pay into.
00:08:27.160And they have to come up with some solution as to what is wrong and how we fix our broken system.
00:08:34.020So if you think about the amount of money that somebody who is, say, in their 70s, who has terminal cancer or Alzheimer's or dementia, or even just postpartum depression, for example, or major depressive disorder.
00:08:47.140Somebody who has become a burden who cannot work, who feeds off of the finances, who needs medical care consistently, or almost 24s around the clock.
00:09:00.140And now you have people like Dying With Dignity who are lobbying the government currently to force all Catholic institutions to provide euthanasia.
00:09:08.760I don't feel like anything I'm saying is this massively objectified or just like dramatic thing.
00:09:19.400All I'm doing is sitting down, very simply taking my time and reading papers from people like Christopher Lyon and Alex Schattenberg and Alicia Duncan's family story and Roger Foley's story who's coming on the show.
00:09:32.300And I'm seeing the abuses of power time and time and time and time again.
00:09:37.080This is just the obvious laid out points in front of us that none of us want to look at because they are so terrifying when you realize what the government has been doing since 2016.
00:10:10.340Why would we hold people accountable for murdering people or offering death to people?
00:10:14.280You know, the way that the laws were wrote when 2016 was amended, and it was an amendment of the criminal court.
00:10:19.880It was not an amendment of some new law brought into place.
00:10:22.900It was an amendment stating that you would no longer, as a doctor or the person providing the lethal injection, would be able to be charged with murder.
00:10:30.960And that's one thing we have to be remembering is there are not safeguards around this in Canada.
00:10:37.640And Canada has one of the, well, the highest rate of euthanasia.
00:10:41.200So if we go way back, way, way back, and I spoke to Jordan Peterson about this, when you go back and you look at the 1930s and you look at the eugenics program, I'm not talking about the Holocaust.
00:10:51.740I'm talking about the eugenics program.
00:10:53.240The first targeted verbiage that is being used, was used then, is now being used now by organizations like Dying with Dignity.
00:10:59.980And it is the compassionate, empathetic removal of people who shouldn't have to suffer in any way, shape, or form.
00:11:06.940So what they do is they target those that cost a lot of money.
00:11:11.460I cost them a significant amount of money to treat the ailments that were caused during war.
00:11:16.700When you have people that are injured in their 20s, in the 20-year war that we just abandoned, you are going to have to follow people until they're 75 years old, Harrison.
00:11:26.000Veterans are one of those individuals that were targeted by the eugenics program with the World War I veterans.
00:11:36.720When you're a liability, you're a liability to the system.
00:11:39.440And if they feel like they can quietly get away with removing you or hyper-suggesting that death is the solution, which, by the way, is illegal.
00:11:48.460And there are cases in Quebec that have been known in 2021 and 2022 where people, 15 people, were illegally taken off the face of the earth with euthanasia.
00:11:59.540You cannot tell me that doctors don't have their own ideology, their own communities, their own way of thinking, because they are humans and humans make mistakes.
00:12:07.680So you cannot tell me that people are not promoting it when we have evidence and proof otherwise.
00:12:12.140And so now I'm seeing reports that euthanasia is looking, is being looked at in the United States and they want to try to expand it in the United Kingdom and Australia as well.
00:12:23.520So it's sort of becoming this, this broadly accepted practice.
00:12:28.320Somehow it's a medical practice now all over the West.
00:12:32.640So America's not looking at it, Harrison.
00:12:35.120America has 10 states in one jurisdiction that already provide it.
00:12:38.540So America is rapidly expanding right now.
00:12:41.880This is why I have been pushing so hard to speak to Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan about this, because most Americans are so distracted right now with the absolute nightmare that is their election cycle.
00:12:53.920They are completely missing the fact that Delaware, not even a month ago, voted to expand Maine.
00:12:59.540OK, so we have had this happening under the cloak and dagger while everyone's distracted.
00:13:04.520The UK and now the new Labour Minister, who is now the Prime Minister, is the person who has been single-handedly pushing euthanasia expansion into the UK.
00:13:15.220Australia's VAD program, they are starting, I know they've legalized, but November 3rd of 2025.
00:13:20.480If you look at the globe on a whole and you don't just, if you pull back and give yourself some perspective, that's what my show does.
00:13:29.520This is a global effort and there's something greater.
00:13:32.780And then when you listen to people like Bill Gates step on stages and talk about death commissions, weighing someone's life versus the dollar it will cost them to keep them alive.
00:13:42.160You can see that we are under a completely different umbrella here on how we want to handle and how we view the value of life.
00:13:51.620And just lastly, as a veteran who, for the longest time in our life, we're told we were numbers to them.
00:13:59.700They are sure showing us that we have been nothing but numbers with how they treat us.
00:14:04.600And I cannot see how you would have another Canadian who's serving now or serves later, who will ever go to bat and put their life on the line for this government.
00:14:13.440Because I will tell you right now, Harrison, I would not.
00:14:17.560And so where is the government going wrong when it comes to helping veterans?
00:14:22.780Because it's probably, it's a massive question, of course.
00:14:25.260But besides the most disgraceful part of all, being offering veterans in need euthanasia, where is the government going wrong right now when it comes to treating veterans?
00:14:36.600Oh, several different areas, of course.
00:14:38.760That's what happens when you farm most of the Veterans Affairs cases out to insurance companies instead of case managers who want to see Veterans Affairs clients do well.
00:14:48.780Case managers have so many different clients themselves.
00:14:52.440They used to be visiting them in person.
00:14:54.160My case manager used to come to my home.
00:14:56.520Now they have upwards of 50 to 75 clients on their own individually.
00:15:07.900We have a terrible transition program out of service.
00:15:10.640We have a lack of community and a lack of purpose.
00:15:13.180And when you remove community and purpose and identity, Harrison, from the job that you did for 20 years or 25 or even five,
00:15:20.960you're now removing that safe network from them, and then you tell them they're broken, they will never heal, and to take these drugs.
00:15:28.660So this is what we've been doing for all of the last war, which was the GY Afghanistan war that Canada was heavily involved in that most people don't seem to be aware of.
00:15:37.500And we tell them, when you get home, we will help you.
00:15:41.060But I can tell you for the six months that I never received a phone call after my deployment from no doctor or no case manager or no help at all,
00:15:47.520and the 11 different drugs I was on at 19, individuals who come home just want to be in their community and feel like they are not alone.
00:15:55.220And the last thing we are doing is giving them that.
00:15:58.960You made a point about how the fact that many Canadians don't seem to recognize or acknowledge the human cost that Canada paid in Afghanistan.
00:16:09.500Over 150 Canadians lost their lives in combat.
00:16:15.500How did it make you feel as an Afghan war vet to see Afghanistan fall in 2021 and to see the enemy that you fought so hard against return back into power?
00:16:28.620The timing on this and the question you just asked me gave my whole body goosebumps.
00:16:32.500We are going on the third anniversary right now.