Juno News - January 18, 2021


Do lockdowns work？

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Lockdown is a controversial mental health measure that has been used in the United States for over a decade and a half, but is it actually working? In this episode, I discuss a new academic paper that says lockdowns do not work, and that there is no clear benefit to them.

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00:00:00.000 all right we got a new academic paper out that says lockdowns do not work there is no clear
00:00:10.980 benefit to them and beating back covid19 cases this latest report is out from stanford university
00:00:17.220 researchers and professors what they found was they took a whole bunch of countries that had
00:00:21.780 very tight restrictive lockdowns and they compared them with other jurisdictions that had much lighter
00:00:26.940 restrictions or only voluntary measures and found well there wasn't that much difference it's not
00:00:32.060 really clear that lockdowns were the key variable that brought about reduced spread so there you have
00:00:37.800 it what do we take from it well i know some of you are already saying hold on a second fury i can find
00:00:41.740 you this link and that link to other studies that say no lockdowns they're fantastic they're wonderful
00:00:46.280 they save lives and then of course you can find the other studies that back up what this first study
00:00:51.100 says that no lockdowns do not work so we got competing studies here let's be very generous
00:00:56.580 and let's just say okay the jury is out we got some saying lockdowns do work we've got others saying
00:01:03.040 lockdowns do not work so what do you do here a lot of us appreciate back in march of last year what was
00:01:08.900 this new thing well what could this be what's the fatality rate going to be a locker all down fine but
00:01:14.560 this is no longer march and we now have 10 months of data to look back and if the data is conflicting
00:01:20.700 which it is and if lockdowns do bring about harms to society and look even the people who are
00:01:26.960 advocating for lockdowns they cannot deny that lockdowns do bring a whole bunch of societal harms
00:01:32.840 i guess they just think that the the harms are worth it because they believe the benefits exceed the
00:01:37.620 harms surely then you must say 10 months out of this we're still not sure whether or not lockdowns
00:01:43.280 are a beneficial thing so why do you go ahead with them what are you just kind of flipping a coin and
00:01:48.680 saying oh we either will or we won't lock down or well we've already done it for this many months so
00:01:52.740 let's just keep doing it for a few more and a few more after that and a few more after that one i mean
00:01:56.920 you know why not might as well keep down that path no i mean if you're uncertain at this point but you
00:02:02.100 know that every single day every single hour that goes by it is more businesses closing more mental 0.88
00:02:07.700 health challenges people on the verge of suicide things that i didn't expect the ceo and president of sick
00:02:12.700 kids hospital told me eating disorders are unprecedented they're through the roof he says
00:02:17.300 they're experiencing that in the united states as well if you're having all of these things and and
00:02:22.220 you're not sure whether or not it's actually worth it if you've got different studies that are telling
00:02:27.940 you different things well what do you do i don't think you say well you know i've already decided i like
00:02:33.620 lockdown so i'll just pick the studies i like no you go with the option that is the least harmful option
00:02:40.320 right now and i know there's a lot of polls out there that right now suggest some people want to
00:02:44.920 see even more lockdowns you're very supportive of measures but i think the response to those polls
00:02:49.080 should be media and politicians educating people on why maybe this isn't actually the right way maybe
00:02:55.780 there is in fact a better way rather than further enabling them in these misconceptions so look at all
00:03:00.960 these studies you want nitpick them and you know look at all the footnotes and all the different
00:03:05.060 evidence in them and so forth but we got conflicting studies here and i really don't think you should
00:03:10.600 just decide to go with the one that maximizes the harms because because what because we've already
00:03:16.780 been doing that maybe this is just more evidence that i don't know i think we should step away from
00:03:21.800 this and pursue a better path
00:03:24.180 you