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- June 07, 2024
Do the Liberals care about treason?
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5
Misogynist Sentences
19
Hate Speech Sentences
11
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the most painful part of the show begins the whole show is painful what are you talking about
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by the way Noah where was the pink shirt you promised oh man uh I mean it's in some dresser
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over there in the side uh there's no chance I'm ever gonna see the light of day um I I promise
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you no you gotta liven it up it's a bright pink flamingo you see I'm not a I'm not a Barbie man
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personally I you know I prefer my uh bluish purplish shirt uh we can debate the color some
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other time but uh no I mean I think you'd look a lot better in Andrew I have a well I have like a
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fuchsia e well actually I don't really know what fuchsia is it's like a purpley pink shirt that uh
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I was wearing accidentally color pardon me it's a great color you'll know it is I like the shirt
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but I the problem is I I wore it in a documentary that I was interviewed for and then I accidentally
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wore it at the screening of the documentary so everyone there thought I I just had one shirt
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which was uh I mean as far as the fashion faux pas I could make not the most embarrassing but
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you'll wear it when you go to Winnipeg they've never seen anything other than gray over there
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oh that's just cruel all right let's get this started
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hello and welcome to off the record this is where we kick back analyze the week that was we delve into
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the things that true north has covered the things we didn't get to the things that we just feel like
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covering and talking about and we do it in a much more laid-back casual way it is oftentimes referred
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to as the Friday train wreck actually no it's never been referred to that until now you want to call
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it the Friday train wreck you can but it will be less of one with my two co-hosts for today I'm Andrew
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Lawton in case you missed the memo but we have Rachel Emanuel our Alberta correspondent and also host of
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Alberta Roundup and has some other stuff cooking that we'll have some details about for you pretty soon
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and Noah Jarvis you hear from time to time on the daily brief and also see his work over at
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tnc.news Rachel Noah good to have you back thanks for coming glad to be back glad that you are once
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again in the hosting chair as well it's always a blast to be on OTR apparently the whole thing fell
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apart when I wasn't hosting a couple of weeks back and like Harrison Faulkner and William were basically
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just saying I'm I'm never doing this again uh with that without Andrew hosting so now I've been like
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it was supposed to be this like rotating thing and now everyone's too scared to do it so what's the
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problem it's easy you just have a chat it's funny that every week it's like to our audience it's
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like oh man the show you know it's such a train wreck no one wants to host it anymore I feel like
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we probably need to do a little bit of a better job pitching it to people so that they actually
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you know come back time and time again to listen to it there was so so I actually had I had a book
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launch oh I had a little book tour and there was an event in Toronto and Noah came out and there was
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a guy there that came up to me who loved off the record and he there was a moment that he loved of
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yours Noah and I did did you talk to him did he tell you this in person yeah we were talking it's
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like oh you know I really loved your uh when you called uh Rachel Emanuel Miss Emanuel I'm like oh
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well I'm glad this at least someone got some humor yeah because Noah like everyone's been like
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relentlessly making fun of Noah since that but this guy is like yeah that's the highlight of the show I
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loved it I loved when Noah just looked at Rachel as though she was some like weird scary school marm
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you know it's also not accurate you're not using the language accurately I'm not a miss
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I'm a missus so you have to get it right Noah it's important was it miss or miz that you got
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I'm pretty sure it's missus before you get married no I don't know it's not no it's miss
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it used to be miss before you get married and then missus when you're married but now
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some school teachers definitely mess me up yeah some school teachers got it uh completely sorry
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are you all for the five people in the audience remaining after that stellar introduction
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I just wonder if I just wonder if Noah's like legally old enough to work here
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should we double check that you know I think I get up with HR if you have a human rights complaint
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about that uh the baseless ageism you've just experienced but uh all right let's get let's get
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into this one story here so uh Jennifer O'Connell is a liberal member of parliament and I'm just
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going to warn people we are going to do an AI generated song for this but I didn't make it but
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we'll get to that in a bit uh Rachel what happened this week so the national security and intelligence
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committee released a report saying that there was many MPs that have been accused of collaborating
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with foreign governments now when this report was released predictably the liberal government
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redacted the names of the MPs who've been accused of this so naturally you know the conservatives
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have been putting pressure on the government to try to get those names as I think we would all like
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to see during a committee meeting this week the conservative MPs were questioning you know
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trying to get this these names released and liberal MP Jennifer O'Connell kind of kept heckling
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during committee which is a big no-no in committee you're supposed to let the member who has the chair
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do the speaking you're not supposed to be heckling and Jennifer O'Connell can just be heard in the
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background going boo-hoo boo-hoo get over it you know no big deal that there's been foreign
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interference in Canada who cares and this ended up going really really badly for her um there were
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some tweets about it going on around online it ended up blowing up with people kind of from all
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aisles really condemning this action and saying how inappropriate this was I don't think she expected
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this condemnation I'm sure she's regretting her actions now just gonna throw this out there
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when I first started covering Parliament Hill just out of university I immediately noticed something
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was off with Jennifer O'Connell I've never really liked her she's one of those MPs who's just
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beyond partisan like she can never really get anything done in committee because she's just
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so focused on her partisan agenda and I feel like she doesn't work collaboratively with other members
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that was something I noticed in the beginning and just kind of having seen some of her actions
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like this one play out I feel very validated in having identified that about her early on but uh
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yeah so then I guess it was Stephen Taylor who online made this AI generated song about the whole
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incident I think we have a clip of that we can play it's definitely nowhere near as good as the songs
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that Andrew makes if you want to hear some really good AI generated songs you'll have to head on over
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to the Alberta Roundup after this yeah take that Stephen Taylor your so your AI songs suck it sucks
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yeah no let's play that that song now though
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I like the hat
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she's not Albertan
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yeah I don't know why she's doing like a country banjo
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oh my dear peer isn't that just sad
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it's all just treason yeah isn't it a joke
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silly games and power plays these MPs provoke
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but the real betrayal it's crystal clear
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you're not with Justin you hear
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woohoo get over it
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it's just a silly game
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woohoo get over it
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yeah step aside Taylor Swift in the heiress tour uh Jennifer O'Connell coming to stadiums near you with
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her hit single boohoo get over it which which is actually come to think of it's actually a good name
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for a song uh boohoo get over it it's not uh you know for a member of you know his majesty's parliament
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isn't uh particularly becoming but uh oh boy
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the song title itself is funny the lyrics could use a little bit tweaking
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actually when I saw this online and did get a lot of traction and I'm glad that we're all
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you know calling this out and also making jokes about it I'm glad the song was made to draw further
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attention to the issue but it did remind me of probably my favorite line from Andrew Lawton's recent book
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Pierre Polyev a political life was when he was telling the story about Pierre Polyev eating that apple
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while doing an interview that went really viral online and then all the parliamentarians posed
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for a photo with a with an apple the following day and he basically said it just shows politicians
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ability to make something fun and cool and turn it into something that is lame I think that's kind
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of what we're seeing here yeah I did a good memory I that was uh yeah I wrote that and I think I might
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have even argued with my publisher about that because he thought it was too opinionated I'm like no
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if we can't call the photo of like 100 people holding an apple lame I don't know uh what we can
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but uh uh Noah what's your take on the whole uh boohoo thing from Jennifer O'Connell well I think it's
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pretty interesting that uh you know she's supposed to swear an oath before she sits in parliament uh and
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you know she's supposed to defend uh not only our constitution but also our national security yet she
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uh goes to the committee and basically uh you know shows that she's scornful of MPs who want to you know
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get to the truth of who uh may be collaborating with uh foreign governments I mean uh when you go to the
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ballot box uh in 2025 are you going to be 100% confident that the person you're voting for hasn't
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collaborated with uh say the Chinese government or the say the Iranian Iranian government it's a really
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serious stuff and you know we can uh make AI generated uh songs about this because you know
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it helps the lighten the mood about something you know very dark and uh you know sinister but at the
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end of the day uh yeah it is really crappy that Jennifer O'Connell is you know doing this as an elected
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MP uh I think you know Canadians deserve more accountability not from O'Connell but uh from all
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the MPs uh that who are collaborating with um say India or China so I I don't actually think she is one
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of the subjects of foreign interference if only because that would be like the worst way to spend
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money if you're China like you're you're getting Jennifer O'Connell that's just like what was that
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yeah yeah I think China will just see her as like a useless you know she's like oh you know they're
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like no no we don't you're doing enough interfering on your own you don't even China doesn't claim her
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so I I will say I won my one Jennifer O'Connell story I this was like two or three weeks ago
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I was at the airport and I was waiting for my flight and she was she sat right beside me uh not
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knowing who I was just it was one of those long long tables and it was packed she sat beside me
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and I wasn't trying to snoop I was just you know enjoying my coffee and she don't give me that look
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Rachel I was not trying to snoop in fact I think I like angled away when I saw it was Jennifer O'Connell
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because I'm like I just don't want to deal with this but then I saw it just happened to see because
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she had it on her phone and it was held out in front of her she was posting something on Instagram
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it took her 15 minutes to write the caption for the thing she was posting on Instagram and like I
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saw it like I have never seen someone working so hard to write two sentences and at the end of it
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it may be like really fascinating because I couldn't see what she was writing I just saw that she was
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working on and then like you know when I was getting on my flight I was like oh I wonder if she
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finally figured out the Instagram thing so I went on her Instagram and saw the post and it was like
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great times seeing so and so in the riding on the weekend and that was like I was like it took you 15
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minutes for that so the fact that she said boohoo get over it in like five seconds I actually think
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is a step in the right direction she's becoming a lot quicker yeah yeah but maybe if she had stopped
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to take the time to double check and you know really think about do I want to say this could
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have ended a little bit better for her fortunately you know for us it's hilarious and we can make
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light of this issue now I have to kind of wonder though about this report they haven't released the
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names do we even know which parties these MPs were found in like do you think there's any chance
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we're going to get any details on this let's say we were to see a conservative government in a year
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do you think there's a chance that they would release the names because I feel like this is
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a matter that is Canadians deserve to know like we have the right to know what the heck is going on
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who are these MPs that have been working with foreign governments it's a huge allegation yeah
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yeah I know I talked about it a bit with Sam Cooper who runs the bureau on my show I think it was
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yesterday and Sam Cooper was basically of the mind that there's not really a mechanism to compel the
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government to release the name so he was sort of indicating that things will have to be leaked
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that someone who is involved with this report or someone in the intelligence community will have
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to basically just go to a reporter and be like here you know look at this envelope and it would be
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illegal to do that but ultimately we're at the point when the government is being so non-transparent
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that's really the only option I think there are probably people from different parties implicated I
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think there are probably people in the conservatives there are probably people in the liberals
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the issue is that the liberals know the liberals know I think or have access to it and aren't
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sharing it whereas the conservatives they can't make any decisions they can't punish anyone kick
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anyone out of caucus refer anyone to police unless the names are shared so the fact that you have the
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block the NDP and the conservatives all saying to the government yeah name the names we we need that
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if if our caucus has been infiltrated we want to know that and these parties just don't have that
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available it's it's insane and to your point earlier Noah like here we have you know yeah
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we're making light of it because it's off the record but there's a very serious issue underlying
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this and I think Jennifer Connell's boohoo get over it the reason that's such an attractive story
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in and of itself is because it reflects I think the liberal flippance and uh flippancy flippance
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flippance I think uh the liberal flippance or just disregard for the seriousness of this
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do you think that if the conservatives were to fight I asked no other question
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you're woman-splaining to Noah I gotta I gotta get in when I can you guys dominate you know your
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loud voices are always fair enough well we have to make space for women's voices so yeah either one
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of you but yeah something uh it was flippancy by the way I got it wrong it wasn't flippance anyway
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carry on oh well uh you know you're supposed to be our editor it really undermines confidence
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I really am I get to tell you guys when you make mistakes I'm not supposed to make them myself
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Noah and I both knew it was wrong but we just didn't want to get penalized later so we kept
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our mouths shut yeah I don't want to get demoted or fired or anything this show was a terrible idea
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all right no I just say words this is this is this is the this we're train wrecking the train
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wreck out of this yeah uh for interference bad um but yeah no I think like you know the liberal
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flippants with this issue it's really concerning you see it you know not just uh what uh with this
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recently revealed uh ENSECOP report but also with just how they've dealt with say the Handong
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situation you know Handong was an MP sitting in their caucus and Trudeau knew that uh he was
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collaborating with uh the Chinese Communist Party uh the People's Republic of China and he did
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nothing about it he had to wait until it was leaked to the media and only then did he kick him
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out of caucus so uh it's not like this is a new thing Trudeau just doesn't care about national
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security concerns he only cares about the carbon tax and building back better or whatever the hell he
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does I wonder go ahead I wonder if let's say we have a conservative government in a year's time they
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finally get their hands on these names if it's not leaked by a government whistleblower first do you
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think that they would make the names public or do you think they take a look at the list and say
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oh you know this actually looks pretty bad for us too let's just uh let's keep this quiet especially
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now that the news cycle has long passed yeah it's a really tough question because on one hand
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when that will have happened they will have just one election and potentially some of these people
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will have just one election so do you you know five days after you're sworn in look at you know some
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guy Joe Blow who was just elected in you know Scarborough whatever and say oh no I didn't really
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get out of there you're you're implicated in this and so look if I were the conservatives right now
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I'd be going through their caucus and being like listen you've got one chance to own up do you have
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any reason to believe that you are on this list and if so what have you done but again it's ridiculous
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and and I think the point that Sam Cooper had made which I think is an incredibly valuable one is that
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we don't really have the legal mechanisms to deal with this right now and even the RCMP which is
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supposedly investigating this I saw someone say and I haven't verified it independently but
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it was someone credible who said it they've got an ad hoc department with seven people looking into
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this so they've just sort of found like seven random people in the lunchroom and said um yeah you guys
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okay we got a national security thing come on over and these people are not experts in this they have
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not spent their careers in this they're not even from an intelligence background necessarily a couple of
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them may have some experience but it's not even like the police are equipped to deal with this
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it's just this situation that people are only talking about now that's been happening for really for
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decades I mean going back to the 1940s we've had foreign interference from the Soviets in Canada
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but no one has really in this country tried to shore up our defenses against it
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oh that's deeply troubling maybe the government needs to spend a little bit investing in CRA agents
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who can track down you for not you know claiming that 40 that you earned last year and maybe invest
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the real menaces to society yeah I kind of suspect I kind of suspect that the conservatives wouldn't
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release the names a year later unless it became like a hot issue again with the media asking about
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it which I don't think we would see in a year's time just because the news cycle would have passed
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and if it looks kind of bad unless they've they've been able to get ahead of it and been like
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this is the names this is how we've dealt with this issue and they're able to get ahead of the
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news story in that way if they're on the defensive I don't think they would release it
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because like I said the news stories pass it's like something similar with the increases to
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capital gains like people are upset about that now are they still going to be upset about it
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when we have a conservative government to the point that the conservative government will then
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roll back those taxes yeah and to go back to the the book that you so kindly plugged Pierre
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Polly have a political life available now on Amazon and from Indigo there there's a part of that
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and I've talked about it in some interviews in the last couple of weeks that talks about what a
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Polly of government would be like what it would do and everyone agrees that they need to hit the
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ground running if he wins and they're sworn in you know October 2025 and do so much but there's only
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so much you can do in a hundred days and and I don't know to your point Rachel if releasing this
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thing that everyone's talking about right now is going to be at the top of the priority list in a
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year and a half when that conceivable future government forms or if it's the kind of thing that we just
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move on from like remember the Canadian government has kept classified a list of Nazi war criminals in
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Canada that was done like you know 40 years ago and still they they won't release it so transparency
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is not the default position of the Canadian government in general well I mean Pierre Polly of
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is doubtless listening to this right now so hopefully he'll take your advice Andrew and he'll be going
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through his caucus and they'll be well prepared to release those names when and if he should foreign
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government no a last word on this yeah I think just to add on your points I think there's not a lot of
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incentive for Polly have to do that when he gets into government because you'd have to sort of
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develop a legal infrastructure that is not there you think during our experience with the Soviets
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this sort of legal infrastructure would have been developed but right now it's easier to prosecute
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whistleblowers than it is to prosecute those implicated in the reports that the whistleblowers are
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exposing to the public so you know Polly would have to pass laws to develop his legal infrastructure
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taking away political capital opportunity to still say you know do whatever his other priorities are
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so I don't think this is something that's going to be addressed although if it is that would be
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a welcome surprise all right that is it for this topic we shall move on now to I was excited about
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this one and then I realized that as the I don't know when so I used to be the young person in many
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rooms then I blinked and I became the old person in many contexts and that includes at true north so
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Rob Schneider who's a comedian that I thought everyone knew uh Rachel had only like oh yeah I
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think I've you know I think I've heard the name or maybe I you know saw him in something that was you
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know playing on tv when I was slipping through the channels and Noah just said who the heck is Rob
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Schneider so Rob Schneider used to be a comedy legend he was on Saturday Night Live back in the day
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he's been in like all the Adam Sandler movies he was the the his famous line in a few of them was
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you can do it uh which he's done as all sorts of characters he was in like all the Adam Sandler
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movies he was also in well I guess they were Adam Sandler movies too but grown-ups one and two which
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were really funny uh so Rob Schneider is a stand-up comedian now he has been as the kids say increasingly
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based in recent years on matters of politics he's always tweeting he once retweeted me because I had
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tweeted a clip of Danielle Smith and Rob Schneider like really has a crush on Danielle Smith it seems
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like he's shared that a couple of times he has I think approvingly shared uh true north stuff he's
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approvingly shared Pierre Paulieff clips he's very very critical of Justin Trudeau he is very political
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he's very outspoken he's not a big fan of COVID policy and all of that anyway this is a lengthy
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wind up to he's invited to speak at a hospital fundraiser in Regina now hospital fundraisers
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I generally think are more buttoned down affairs so bringing a comedian in general carries its risk
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bringing a comedian that has been fully transparent about what he stands for all the more risky it did
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not end well for the hospital so they thought he was stopped midway through his set and asked to
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leave the stage and the hospital put out an apology uh basically groveling and saying sorry for the jokes
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he told that were just so offensive and harmful without sharing what those jokes were now I so I
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looked into this I've not seen any video but there was a thread on reddit in which someone had asked for
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the details about the performance and someone shared so again I I can't verify this I I'm just you know
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reading some of the notes that someone else took a little bit after the fact apparently he jumped into
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how Trudeau made everyone get vaccines he called it a scamdemic and then he uh moved to uh one joke
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that was back in my day we liked our women without penises and told uh the joke was that his son is
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really bad at sports he said you should say he's a girl say you're a girl and then you'll have a better
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chance uh then he discussed uh the New York Times using the term menstruating people instead of women so
00:22:01.660
he's been accused of uh transphobia and all this stuff and and again a lot of this this is being
00:22:07.380
written by a critic so I don't know if it was funny or if it was a political rant like because
00:22:12.420
there are left-wing politics comics that go up and they just do like a you know an unhinged rant and
00:22:17.540
there's no real punchline I don't know if he was doing like the conservative version of that or not
00:22:21.360
but uh apparently he just you know was was not uh popular in the room at the time but then I'm also
00:22:28.980
of the mind that like what were you expecting it sounds like everything he said is everything
00:22:33.720
he's been tweeting about for the last five years so uh who's to blame here Noah Rob Schneider or the
00:22:38.920
Regina Hospital oh it's definitely the Regina Hospital I've been to for some weird reason don't
00:22:45.280
ask me why but I've been to one hospital fundraiser in my life and my gosh that's like the last like
00:22:50.480
sort of event I would want to invite Rob Schneider to I would not I would invite him to like a cookout
00:22:55.280
or like you know uh it's like something that's you know you're supposed to have some energy and
00:23:00.240
uh liveliness to not uh a fundraiser like that I I think you know if you just scroll through his
00:23:05.940
Twitter like I did you know for a few minutes after uh discovering who Rob Schneider was uh in the um
00:23:11.980
group chat and uh for True North I I looked through his Twitter I'm like yeah this guy clearly is a
00:23:17.620
right-winger he liked Daniel Smith he doesn't like vaccines you know great I know who this person is you
00:23:23.220
know it's a great encapsulation of like who is it if you just go through his Twitter so um it's
00:23:28.020
really you know a shame that you know they couldn't sit back relax and enjoy some good jokes that they
00:23:33.120
hey they might disagree with but you know it's it's comedy uh you know I think you know Dave Chappelle
00:23:38.600
he makes jokes that I disagree about or um you know other comedians I can take jokes and enjoy jokes
00:23:45.120
about people that you know I generally like and I move on with my day because you know I'm not like
00:23:50.840
a political demagogue you know I have a soul uh I can you know laugh at things so I I think you know
00:23:57.360
either the people at that fundraiser should um you know grow a funny bone or they should not invite
00:24:03.240
invite Rob Schneider you know pick one I think the difference between like the left and the right is
00:24:07.740
that the right can laugh at themselves and the left absolutely cannot very difficult to do when your
00:24:12.220
whole personality is based off of being a victim sounds like his set was hilarious I would like to get
00:24:16.920
my hands on a video copy of that so that I could wow my family at our next get together it'd be the
00:24:21.620
life of the party doubtless but uh maybe we could have him at our next you know true north event do a
00:24:26.760
do a nice stand-up piece for everyone you could even just you know we'll say listen we'll give you
00:24:30.760
half your rate you don't have to write any new material you can just deliver what you gave at that
00:24:35.320
fundraiser and you don't deliver the set that you didn't get to finish do the do the stuff they pulled
00:24:39.380
you off stage before you got to I'd also like to set the record straight I looked him up and I
00:24:44.180
once I saw his face I was like of course I know who Rob Schneider is this is going to be
00:24:48.020
controversial but I actually do like some Adam Sandler movies I feel like I snuck I remember
00:24:53.240
sneaking into the theaters when I was a little underage to see grown-ups and it's a hilarious
00:24:57.800
film oh you were underage when grown-ups came out I think it was like yeah I think I was in like
00:25:03.140
middle school yeah you were in daycare you actually weren't a grown-up when grown-ups came out that's
00:25:08.160
how old I am okay yeah so you know he's he's he's a gem I might actually reach out maybe he wants
00:25:13.020
to come on the Alberta Roundup and deliver his set there who knows I think I tried after he
00:25:17.420
retweeted me just hoping for the best but my fear is that so I don't have a way to contact him
00:25:21.620
directly he doesn't follow me on Twitter so I couldn't dm him I so I reached out to his manager
00:25:25.900
but I but the problem with a lot of these celebrities is that they're conservative but
00:25:30.120
their managers like hate politics and hate can and and wish they would stop talking about politics
00:25:34.620
so when the manager gets like someone from the right reaching out to them they're like
00:25:37.560
desperately trying to like keep the person away because Pat Sajak was like that because
00:25:41.780
Pat Sajak the Wheel of Fortune host at one point had said he wanted to come on my show
00:25:46.160
and then when I was talking to the publicist it was oh no no he's he's not talking about
00:25:50.260
politics anymore and then he like you know it's talking about politics everywhere else
00:25:54.120
well and I think to add to things is like the manager's looking at this and they're like
00:25:57.820
oh he's not going to make any money off of this this is a free appearance it means I'm not going
00:26:01.500
to make any money off of it so yeah yeah 10% of zero is uh is uh my math's a little
00:26:07.160
fussy I think it's zero um so the thing I will point out about Adam Sandler so Adam Sandler I
00:26:12.640
actually have Adam Sandler's email address and I've never used it I it's the kind of thing it's
00:26:16.840
like you get to use it once so maybe I should just try to get Adam Sandler on the show I don't want
00:26:20.680
to use it to like hey can you forward this to Rob Schneider please I feel like that's a waste of
00:26:25.180
the Adam Sandler email yeah don't do that use it next year during the election uh you know have
00:26:29.780
him uh on the election true north election night show uh bring Adam Sandler doing our election
00:26:34.380
extravaganza yeah it would be great just have him cracking jokes whenever we're like waiting hours
00:26:40.780
and hours for results to come out throughout the night it's like all right Adam you're up what do
00:26:44.040
you got for us I don't know if you guys saw this so Adam Sandler I think it was last year might have
00:26:47.960
been two years ago he was filming a movie in Toronto and like everyone was just running into him he was
00:26:53.400
just like walking around Toronto like all day every day so like every day you'd go on like blog to
00:26:58.540
and there'd be like someone else that has grabbed some like random selfie with Adam Sandler in
00:27:02.740
Yorkville and I was like I just apparently if you just like camp out in Yorkville long enough you'll
00:27:06.100
meet Adam Sandler it actually sounded like a good plan but would not not one that I wanted to brave
00:27:10.100
Toronto traffic to make happen so maybe it was around the same time I or maybe it was a different
00:27:14.580
time but he was in Niagara on the lake and I remember he was out for dinner and then he there
00:27:18.400
was a line of people that wanted to take photos with him and he came and he took photos with
00:27:21.520
everyone then he said all right guys that's like enough now I'd like to eat my dinner in peace and
00:27:24.440
sounded like he handled the whole thing very respectfully so I always have a little more
00:27:27.700
admiration for celebrities when you know they treat other people like like real people and you know
00:27:32.360
are able to set those boundaries so I don't know it seems like a cool guy we we always try to look
00:27:37.600
out for the real people as celebrities well I wouldn't know Andrew you're the only one who gets
00:27:42.740
that yeah no I was someone was someone's weird someone came up to me the other day and you're like
00:27:46.200
you're my favorite celebrity I'm like wow I either it's a small group or man you are delusional but
00:27:51.240
I'll take it you're a Canadian conservative celebrity how about that yeah yeah we've really
00:27:57.760
really lowered the price like there's the b list the c list the d list I'm like the z list uh or the
00:28:02.740
z list I guess in Canada but uh anyway uh good old that's why I need can con with it without uh can
00:28:07.960
con you know who would ever uh who would ever pay attention to the likes of me um all right we were
00:28:12.260
talking oh cbc speaking of can con all right Noah I won't make you do the one but you have to do the
00:28:18.080
other one on cbc okay great uh no one's actually not talking about the same one right hold on hold
00:28:24.740
on Noah's actually not legally old enough to talk about the other one it's just too you know yeah so
00:28:30.120
we have two cbc stories but Noah was like blushing before when I was trying to get him to do the lead
00:28:36.300
into the one so we've decided to spare him it's because the last episode you guys made me do that
00:28:41.960
weird uh story about the the the whole sex thing uh sex club in Alberta so I'm like you guys are
00:28:49.900
like yeah it's all the rage things off to me you know okay this could be a pattern but uh yeah anyway
00:28:57.740
um so the cbc uh they are you know the government's greatest uh you know actually no the government's
00:29:05.580
least greatest creation ever because they're just a rag for the liberal government basically
00:29:10.120
uh on d-day to celebrate the 80th anniversary of it a cbc uh their kids department they asked uh
00:29:17.300
they want to ask the kids whether or not they feel as if uh it is important to commemorate uh d-day so
00:29:23.820
they're basically just deferring responsibility uh to the kids to basically determine whether or not
00:29:29.680
it's important to commemorate uh certain uh events like d-day and to commemorate the veterans that fought
00:29:35.460
and died uh at uh in europe uh for our freedoms and liberties and they're basically asking these
00:29:42.720
kids if we should we should be glorifying war that's uh what uh commemorating the veterans and soldiers
00:29:48.560
uh who fought at d-day uh is doing i think you know a lot of canadians find this to be uh completely
00:29:55.980
outrageous uh you know this is already a time uh of these past nine years where uh instead of
00:30:02.540
commemorating and celebrating our history we're tearing it down and instead calling our country
00:30:07.520
genocidal and racist and now we can't even celebrate the people who have uh helped to make
00:30:13.020
this country possible for over uh 150 years i mean you know the people who fought at d-day are some of
00:30:19.740
the people who uh you know if not for them uh if say the nazis had won uh world war ii or in the cold war
00:30:27.780
the soviets have overcome the west uh we wouldn't enjoy uh the the rights and liberties and freedoms
00:30:33.940
that we all enjoy today so i think it's quite offensive uh i take it personally uh that you know
00:30:39.760
the cbc kids would try and uh promote this to the younger generation uh and it's just you know just
00:30:45.940
goes to show that the cbc is utter propaganda they promote a very far left uh narrative they pretend like
00:30:53.260
it's not happening uh when you reach out to them for comment uh and they continue to do this it seems
00:30:59.200
as if a lot of canadians are right and asking for uh the cbc to be defunded uh what do you guys think
00:31:04.480
about this story i think you hit the nail on the head this is a really perverse headline from the cbc
00:31:09.680
the opposite the opposite of what they're writing is actually true the veterans who died they died to
00:31:13.780
protect democracy they died to protect freedom and recognizing days like d-day and and you know
00:31:20.040
veterans day memorials day depending on where you are this is an acknowledgement of the fact that
00:31:24.100
people died to for our freedoms and just the sadness and the heaviness of those stories there's
00:31:29.400
a reason why we might go to a sanataf and listen to a veteran speaking why we might read a story about
00:31:34.020
people who died and some who lived and saw their friends and brothers die around them because it's
00:31:37.860
important to acknowledge the price that they paid for our freedoms and just the sadness and the
00:31:42.600
heaviness that they have to carry throughout with the rest of their lives um and all the lives that
00:31:47.300
were lost in these wars so the opposite of it is actually true it's actually a day to recognize
00:31:51.180
sacrifices that people made and to be respectful of those sacrifices it is absolutely not celebrating
00:31:57.060
war and i think you know one of the things that we see less and less of today is we do see a lot less
00:32:02.220
of that combat with you know the development of things like bombs and whatnot and and uh drones to
00:32:08.560
an extent and you know when we do see a high death toll nowadays it is less common um because of the way
00:32:14.260
that war has changed but you know back when you look at world war one world war two that was really
00:32:17.660
a unique time and even the civil war i was just down in gettysburg i was looking about the american
00:32:21.920
civil war all the tens of thousands people that died in gettysburg um and it's just we don't have
00:32:26.840
combat like that very often anymore and it's just the death toll in those cases was so high and the wars
00:32:32.900
were so bloody and so gruesome and so hard for their soldiers to live through and that was at a time
00:32:37.660
when we didn't recognize soldiers coming back the trauma that they carried and we have a better
00:32:41.560
understanding of that now and we're able to pay respects to those soldiers for what they didn't
00:32:45.380
understand how that has affected them through their whole lives you know in many in many cases
00:32:49.180
these soldiers have had to carry that with them and have really struggled just day to day because
00:32:52.740
of the trauma that they've suffered so i think the opposite of it's not a celebration of war it's
00:32:57.480
understanding how difficult that was and how much some people sacrificed for us and wanting to
00:33:02.620
honor them for that so i i want to i just actually checked uh during this uh right now
00:33:09.280
and realized they've updated it so the true north gets action they originally had the following
00:33:15.980
question is it important to commemorate battles like d-day why or why not and then they say it can
00:33:22.280
be argued that commemorating military battles is celebrating and glorifying war but it can also be
00:33:28.660
seen as a moment of reflection on the importance of peace so what do you think is it important to
00:33:33.460
remember an honorary and honor our military pastor is it celebrating violence so they've now erased all of
00:33:38.720
that and the article has a little editor's note appended we published this article to hear from
00:33:43.540
kids about how they feel about d-day how we set up the original question made it seem like made it
00:33:49.580
sound like d-day isn't important we have revised the question an article to be clear about what we
00:33:53.940
meant and now the new question is do you commemorate d-day and what does it mean to you so they've taken
00:34:00.120
out this whole celebration of violence nonsense which you occasionally get from these like far far
00:34:05.660
left radical anti-war types around remembrance day but anyone with half a brain and and more
00:34:13.380
will find them to be ridiculous because they realize that war has happened no one likes war the issue is
00:34:18.680
do we believe that war should be won by people like the nazis or do we believe that they should
00:34:23.620
be stopped and the only way you can stop them is through war and and d-day was as you guys have said
00:34:28.540
and are well aware the turning point of this that delivered ultimately the allied victory not long
00:34:33.600
later so i i think i don't even know if a lot of this is coming from someone at cbc just being a
00:34:39.960
radical anti-war activist i think it's people that just don't know history and i think that's the real
00:34:44.060
tragedy in all of this but even the way that they reframed that it said it can be argued okay so who's
00:34:50.000
arguing that who's arguing that what was the name they gave that it sounds like cbc you're the ones who
00:34:54.140
are arguing that yeah it's like the some people say question yes exactly journalists do this all the
00:34:58.560
time not to seem like you know a shell for your book but you talk about this in your book
00:35:01.880
extensively that when when reporters ask specifically peer poly of questions and say
00:35:06.360
some people say that you know you're uh introducing donald's donald trump style politics into canada
00:35:12.100
and you'll say well who's saying that and they often can't actually back up their claims because
00:35:15.360
it's actually they're the ones who are saying that so it's really cbc you know maybe it's for the best
00:35:19.540
that they change this headline i don't really i'm beyond giving cbc any credit for anything anymore
00:35:23.940
it's just i'm beyond tired of the stuff that they publish and the fact that my taxpayer dollars are
00:35:28.220
funding it yeah and people know that this is not like the glorification of war i mean when
00:35:34.140
the countries engage in unjust conflicts you know people uh they they express their backlash to it
00:35:40.540
when uh the united states they engage in the iraq war i mean a lot of people are initially supportive
00:35:45.060
of it but a lot of people condemned that war because you know it was an unjust war and you know we still
00:35:49.900
have to uh support the soldiers that bravely fought in that war they didn't ask to be uh shipped out to
00:35:55.740
a middle eastern country to uh you know you know give their life uh you know so we have to celebrate
00:36:02.480
the the people that fought in these wars but we can also condemn you know the the just nature of
00:36:07.920
uh you know a war that is fought but world war ii it is cut and dry it is black and white the nazis
00:36:13.600
they wanted to you know they want to expand their territory they wanted living space and they wanted to
00:36:18.620
genocide uh people who they viewed as inferior and the only way to stop them was through war uh so not
00:36:25.180
only should we be commemorating the soldiers that fought in the war but we should be also
00:36:29.100
commemorating uh that canada stood up against the nazis we stood up uh before the united states did
00:36:35.580
uh as some uh sort of canadian nationalists would uh brag uh but you know we stood up against the nazis
00:36:41.060
we fought valiantly and bravely and we defeated them all right and from one cbc story to another
00:36:48.540
uh there was a headline on cbc canada's horniest newsletter is changing the way we think about sex
00:36:57.860
desire and queer culture now i assure you it's not my substack that is not canada's horniest newsletter
00:37:02.920
and i certainly hope it's not changing the way you think about desire but cbc wants you to know
00:37:08.140
about this and look at the graphic they used to promote the article here by the way uh they're wishing
00:37:12.700
us all a very lovely greeting uh we are all able to ah there you go cbc wishes you have a horny day
00:37:20.700
that is for 1.4 billion dollars well spent now they're uh spotlighting a gentleman from toronto
00:37:26.780
named christopher sherman who i i believe that it put that thing up there i believe that's him doing like
00:37:31.900
the rose from titanic uh sprawl out on the uh the couch there but uh they just to read the article
00:37:38.460
i maybe i shouldn't read the article um do i make you read the article no what no i can't do that's
00:37:45.180
an hr violation i don't think i don't think i don't think we can have this discussion with
00:37:48.540
christopher sherman knows a few things with certainty they include but are not limited to the following
00:37:54.460
the male g-spot is in the butt kindness is horny and censorship breeds small minds but one aphorism
00:38:02.060
he lives by is this always have a horny day oh there's more bare bottoms exposed crotches and words
00:38:09.900
of sexual diversity can be found in the issues of sherman's horny newsletter shot on a digital camera
00:38:16.700
sherman challenges societal taboos about sex and well horniness poetry short essays and tales of
00:38:23.500
desires are shared by artists musicians and other creatives alongside intimate photography uh this was
00:38:30.140
birthed cbc tells us out of the isolation of the 2020 pandemic uh there's i look i am not one of
00:38:37.260
these i probably am actually a bit of a prude but i i'm a free speech lover if you want to write about
00:38:42.220
this go for it it's a weird thing for cbc to profile and it's a one that i find to be just it makes me
00:38:51.820
wonder if i'm getting my money's worth on that 1.4 billion dollars i think saying it's a weird thing to
00:38:56.940
cover as being a little bit generous there andrew i don't want to be accused of what they call kink
00:39:01.420
because again i i don't have an issue with what people do i i just have an issue with paying to
00:39:06.060
be told about it well i'll take that label i think this is disgusting i don't think anyone should be
00:39:10.380
writing about it i certainly don't want to hear about it i certainly don't want my taxpayer dollars
00:39:14.220
funding any type of coverage about it we are trying to live in a society people can we not have some
00:39:18.700
standards my goodness disgusting noah what's your take you know my thinking is like what bureaucrat you
00:39:25.900
know thought of this idea you know they did woke up one day it's like i have a brilliant idea i got
00:39:30.780
to present to my bosses we gotta create a newsletter about that this like well now in fairness cbc is not
00:39:38.620
doing the horniness newsletter they're they're promoting the horniness newsletter okay but like
00:39:44.620
you know why do why does the cbc feel like this is a value to like taxpayers i mean uh you know they
00:39:50.380
could be they they could have been airing um you know the nfl's uh playoff games and instead of you
00:39:55.980
know spending money on the person who was supposed to write about d-day was like wasting their time
00:40:00.460
reading the newsletter and uh didn't read up on the history of d-day i think that's what happened
00:40:05.980
you know andrew when you're going into those details i thought like you know this was like some
00:40:11.740
university level biology class that i just like stumbled in on you know what are you taking at
00:40:17.100
university i'm listen it's not the classes i'd be taking i it's not something i learned in my
00:40:23.580
political science program uh so yeah this one um is a little bit uh different than the normal
00:40:29.420
subjects we cover i mean this could actually be in like a bc public school curriculum though based on
00:40:34.220
what i've heard from some parents there now the one point i will raise on this which i i find kind
00:40:39.820
of interesting because people whenever you do a story like this people are always like oh well you know
00:40:45.580
who cares what other people do read cbc's first person section it's like the best source of comedy
00:40:51.180
because they find the most like bizarre bizarre human experiences that they choose to highlight
00:40:56.220
there i've read some of them in the past like it'll be like oh i came out as non-binary to my iguana
00:41:02.460
and now he won't talk to me like it's just always something really really bizarre like that so this
00:41:07.180
one's comparatively normal should i offer to do a first person about a day in the life as a as a
00:41:13.340
stay-at-home mom who works like a couple hours a week 7 30 a.m change a diaper do a feeding play
00:41:20.140
on the floor with my child you know add some normalcy back that would be more wholesome yeah
00:41:25.020
i mean i would just do it like my life instead of have a horny day it would be like have a corny
00:41:28.860
day have a corny day we could do that we could just you know tell silly jokes and it'd be so
00:41:32.780
wholesome and uh one one aspect of this uh that i would caution you guys on your pitches on our monday
00:41:38.860
editorial meetings uh have to be a lot better than the pitches that cbc's editors are getting
00:41:44.620
well like i said i don't actually think that like noah is legally old enough to even have
00:41:48.460
this conversation like i don't think we should have read that story in front of him like i hope
00:41:51.820
we don't get charged like andrew i i'm staying out of this like if we get if we get like the
00:41:56.460
charge for this it's falling on you you're the managing editor you know i know you don't always
00:41:59.900
know your words but uh this this definitely fell on you hr complaints can be filed to william mcbeth
00:42:07.020
who will probably half of the youtube comments are going to say andrew is a groomer you know it's
00:42:10.860
not going to be great for your reputation i think that word gets us like demonetized anyway
00:42:19.980
all right uh we can't end on that so let's just very briefly as we wind down here uh talk about
00:42:26.300
foreign policy here uh specifically the poop balloon uh north korea has been sending its waste
00:42:33.260
over the dmz towards south korea they've been loading it up with human waste and excrement this
00:42:41.100
is a response to uh usb drives with anti-north korean messages that north korea has been sending
00:42:47.820
or south korea has been sending north uh north korea has and k-pop too because you got to have some
00:42:52.220
k-pop in there uh north korea has said uh take your k-pop and shove it and they've uh sent back
00:42:59.100
this uh human fecal matter instead so uh if there's ever a balloon flying overhead do not
00:43:04.780
for the love of all that is holy shoot it while it's over you all right that does it for us for
00:43:09.260
today uh rachel emmanuel noah jarvis good to have you on the show here this is off the record and
00:43:14.300
everything you've heard is off the record this show can never see the light of day i feel like
00:43:26.940
it would be so um great if all wars were fought with just poop balloons and i was thinking about
00:43:32.780
that and i was like well naturally the united states would win they could just send all over
00:43:37.020
joe biden's depends to their enemies you know if i was that line or did you just come up with that
00:43:44.380
i was just thinking about it as we were talking about it i was like well you know the states has
00:43:47.260
this in their hands so because that was the big joke this week is that he was like pooping on
00:43:51.020
stage which i don't think he was but it was like it's the meme that like ben shapiro i think it said
00:43:56.140
if like john donald trump doesn't start calling him poopy joe it's a missed opportunity sleepy joe poopy joe
00:44:02.780
what else do we have i think election election campaigns should be able to send poop balloons
00:44:09.820
over to rival uh campaign offices you know just as like a sort of campaign warfare no no this isn't
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a third world country we don't want that here we don't want that here no well but spicing it up you
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