Juno News - Does ANYBODY still care about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms？

00:00:00.560 Canada used to be a country that cared about basic rights and freedoms. In fact, every political party

00:00:06.640 in Canada used to talk a good game about protecting the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and upholding

00:00:11.920 our sacred liberties. But then COVID happened and everything changed. I'm Candice Malcolm

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00:00:57.040 of this podcast. So today I want to talk about civil liberties. I want to talk about the importance

00:01:01.680 specifically of writing and reporting about civil liberties because it seems like a value that we

00:01:06.880 used to all share in this country, something that we used to hold near and dear. And increasingly with

00:01:11.120 COVID, increasingly, I mean it's been this way since the start of the pandemic, what we see instead is

00:01:16.560 every politician is more than willing to sacrifice liberties, sacrifice freedoms of Canadians,

00:01:21.680 in exchange for security, for safety, and for public health. And I think it's having a really damaging

00:01:26.960 impact on our society. So I want to bring in the newest True North employee, the newest journalist

00:01:32.800 that we've hired at True North. His name is Harley Sims. He is a writer and a linguist living in the

00:01:38.480 Fraser Canyon in British Columbia. In fact, he lives right in the middle of some of the horrible flooding

00:01:43.600 that we've seen recently. So we can ask him a little bit about that. But Harley's work ranges from law

00:01:48.880 enforcement to literature. He's very, very well read, very well educated. He has a PhD in English

00:01:54.320 from the University of Toronto. And Harley decided to join the True North team to come on board as a

00:01:59.920 journalist in part to fight back against some of the government's heavy handed measures, their draconian

00:02:05.680 measures that do limit the freedoms of Canadians. And so specifically, he's going to be helping us

00:02:11.520 report and write on issues regarding civil liberties. So Harley, first of all, thank you for joining

00:02:17.120 True North. And thank you for joining the program today. It's great to be part of the team, Candace.

00:02:21.440 Thanks a lot. Great. Well, so first, I mean, this is probably our audience's first time meeting you

00:02:28.480 or hearing from you. So why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Who are you? And why did

00:02:33.840 you decide to come join True North? Well, Candace, I grew up in British Columbia. My dad is a heavy

00:02:42.160 duty mechanic. So I grew up around big equipment, pulled a lot of wrenches myself. I grew up rural,

00:02:47.760 really proud of it, playing hockey, hunting, snowmobiling, all that stuff. I married my high

00:02:53.600 school sweetheart, though, on the island, and she just had to get to Ottawa and see how things worked.

00:02:58.320 So I followed her out to Parliament, I went to university, and I just stayed there. I remember one

00:03:04.880 day my dad coming out of the pit, dumped 20 litres of black oil on himself. He looked at me and he said,

00:03:10.800 Harley, just stay in school, stay. So I kind of did. And I climbed out with a PhD in English at

00:03:18.000 the end of it. I always loved reading and writing. I've lived in Ontario, lived in Nova Scotia,

00:03:25.600 I homeschooled my children for a while and worked as a writer, editor, freelancer from there.

00:03:32.560 I've also worked as a bouncer and worked in law enforcement out here in British Columbia.

00:03:38.480 And I guess like everybody at True North, I've just grown really concerned about what's happening

00:03:45.360 with our ability to, you know, just get together with people. I mean, you don't even need to get

00:03:49.760 fancy with what our constitutional rights are at this point. All we have to do is just, you know,

00:03:54.640 get in our cars and drive and we can see what we aren't allowed to do, where we aren't allowed to go

00:03:58.320 anymore. And anything from, you know, even churches, cadets, volunteer groups, I'm worried that once

00:04:07.760 the mortar has been removed from these institutions, they're never going to be rebuilt again.

00:04:13.520 So it's just been very important for me to, to join you and to be able to speak about this,

00:04:20.720 even though, as we've said earlier, it's like drinking from a fire hose. At this point,

00:04:25.120 you don't have to look very far at all to find violations of civil liberties. It just seems to

00:04:29.680 be a part of our everyday lives at this point. It's so true. And it's so sad. I mean, when you're

00:04:35.680 talking about all those institutions and organizations that haven't been able to get

00:04:39.760 together, I mean, those are the things that really make up a core of a community and of a society. I mean,

00:04:45.280 they're what Edmund Burke called the little platoons. And when you have these little platoons that are

00:04:50.000 being prevented from getting together, people present prevented from entering in their own

00:04:55.440 community and having the kinds of bonds and relationships that you need, frankly, to survive

00:05:00.640 an ordeal like the one that we're all going through. I mean, it's almost like I'm not a conspiracy

00:05:05.680 theorist at all. And viewers know that. But it's like, man, if you were to design a way to really

00:05:11.360 upend society and destroy it from the inside, it would be by using some of these measures that we've

00:05:17.200 seen. And often they're good. They're well intended. I mean, I think that the politicians

00:05:21.200 really do want to, you know, have have a safe and free society. It's just that they're much more

00:05:27.040 willing to to to emphasize the safety over over the health. So, Harley, can you give us a few

00:05:34.080 examples of some of the most heavy handed things that you've seen either in your community out there,

00:05:39.520 British Columbia or across the country?

00:05:41.680 Oh, well, I've lived in big cities and I've also lived in very small towns in a big city.

00:05:49.920 I think we tend to keep to ourselves. We tend to associate with going out of doors as being

00:05:56.080 kind of a, you know, you know, being more aware of where we can't go. We're surrounded by private

00:06:03.200 institutions, government institutes. We can't go here. We can't go there. We cost money to get in

00:06:08.160 here. Things like that. I think we're more used to restricted freedoms in a city. But

00:06:11.760 when you live in a small community, you tend to know everybody. You tend to know the people that

00:06:17.040 run the businesses. You tend to be part of organizations. And just simply getting together

00:06:23.520 with a volunteer group, depending on, you know, the ages of the people involved, has been very

00:06:29.760 difficult. Or else it's been put on hold for a year and then people are just starting to get back

00:06:34.880 together. Cadets, for example. My daughter is in cadets. They didn't meet for about a year and

00:06:42.240 they're just starting to meet again. But of course there are limitations in place. I feel exactly the

00:06:48.000 same way you do. I think that there are good intentions. I mean, the path to hell is paved with

00:06:52.960 them, but let's just take them face value for now. But you're right. If there were a conspiracy

00:07:00.800 and if indeed government forces were seeking a way to undermine the everyday freedoms of the people,

00:07:08.480 then public safety has proven the skeleton key to that. It has given them a way to get around

00:07:14.640 everything and say, OK, these things are not safe anymore. And it's all about keeping you safe.

00:07:19.920 But simply going to church has been impossible up until very recently. And even then,

00:07:24.480 the mass gatherings of 50 people or more, we need a COVID proof of vaccination to get in.

00:07:32.080 The things, I mean, not even political rallies, going to a restaurant, for example.

00:07:36.960 And Lindsey Shepard did a report from Hope British Columbia with Raleigh's restaurant,

00:07:42.080 which was a restaurant that had not been checking people's vaccination status before they let people in.

00:07:47.840 And that was recently shut down by public health because of a court order. These are things that in

00:07:53.200 a small community really, really matter. The restaurant employed 40 people, for example.

00:07:58.880 And so again, all I have to do is get in my vehicle. I can drive around and I can see places

00:08:02.960 that have been shut down for a long time or have capacity limits or only let two people in at a time

00:08:08.240 because the owners aren't comfortable. People are scared. People are also concerned. They want to be

00:08:14.000 doing the right thing. But I'm concerned about where it's all going, like everybody. I mean, I believe

00:08:22.800 in us. I believe in Canadians. I believe in people and common sense. And we need to be courageous that,

00:08:27.600 you know, we might have things under control or we need to accept risk. And I'm worried that this

00:08:32.800 constant alarmism is causing people to think that no risk is worth it, that, you know, we can't risk a

00:08:38.800 single life. And even if it takes away the rights of hundreds of thousands of people.

00:08:44.880 Well, I couldn't have said it any better myself, Harley. I think that that mindset that, you know,

00:08:49.760 one death is too many. I mean, that's just counter to life. Sadly, bad things happen sometimes. And

00:08:54.880 that's part of life. That's part of the risk calculation of getting out of bed every day and

00:08:59.280 going out of your front door, getting into a car. For goodness sake, there's so many things that

00:09:04.480 that are bigger risk than COVID. And yet we've allowed COVID to sort of become this all powerful

00:09:11.040 force. I will just push back on one point you made. I've lived in small towns and big cities too. And

00:09:16.480 when the pandemic first broke out, I mean, my family and I live pretty close to downtown Toronto.

00:09:21.840 And we used to get together with, there's a group of moms. So it was like a mom and tot group in the

00:09:27.520 local church basement. And as soon as COVID hit, they shut it down. And we all stayed in touch through

00:09:34.480 a WhatsApp group. And I just got a message the other day saying that starting in January 2022,

00:09:40.240 we're going to be allowed to have this mom and tot group again in the local church basement. So

00:09:45.360 those kinds of groups do exist in big cities. Although I do agree that they're not as common

00:09:52.080 as they would be in the smaller towns. Let's talk a little bit about how, not the government,

00:09:57.600 not the restrictions from the top down, but how our society has changed because of COVID. Because

00:10:04.160 one of the things I noticed is, you know, a place like Canada that used to kind of be

00:10:09.280 neighborly and friendly. And you got this idea that people, everyone's polite and that we're

00:10:13.840 all kind of in it together. And then I feel like COVID has brought the worst out in us, like seeing

00:10:18.560 some of the comment sections and the way people talk about the unvaccinated and the way that the

00:10:22.800 unvaccinated talk about the vaccinated and the way that, I mean, there's so many examples of people

00:10:28.640 calling the police on their neighbors for having too many cars in the driveway and supposed party.

00:10:34.560 There's been so many issues I've seen, Harley, that kind of challenged my idea of Canadians in

00:10:40.880 the spirit of Canadians. What do you think it is about COVID and the threat of this sort of mysterious

00:10:48.800 disease that has caused so many people to sort of, you know, family members pit against each other over

00:10:54.560 their belief about vaccines? Why do you think this has happened? Is this anything that you

00:10:59.440 that you thought was possible in Canada?

00:11:01.360 That's a really good question. I think in some ways, it's an exhaust valve for political correctness

00:11:09.600 in the sense that we've been told for so long to not say certain things, to not discriminate,

00:11:18.560 to be a certain way. We've been policing ourselves for a really long time. And now with the unvaccinated 1.00

00:11:28.560 is a group that we can legitimately hate. It's a group that the government has come out explicitly

00:11:37.200 and said is people to be condemned. There's nowhere that's saying this is not appropriate,

00:11:45.840 this is a form of discrimination. This is an unprotected group, social legally speaking.

00:11:52.400 Because I mean, and I say social legally, because the people are doing it and legally,

00:11:58.640 I don't think there's a will to keep it from happening. Because right now, there's so much

00:12:02.720 going on with vaccine mandates that have yet to be stopped, they've been challenged. And whenever

00:12:10.400 someone is bucking the trend or trying to say circumvent it, like the restaurant in British Columbia,

00:12:20.160 there are whistleblowers everywhere, calling in your neighbors. And of course, when we talk about

00:12:24.080 calling your neighbors, people have resorted to the example of neighbors ratting each other out in

00:12:30.720 Nazi Germany, and that that has been always a convenient leaping point for the left as well.

00:12:35.360 But in this case, like I said, I'm worried that we've been somehow told to be so polite,

00:12:44.800 and so, how can I put it, watch our language, be careful of who we speak out against to the point

00:12:55.040 that now that we have a scapegoat, it's open season. That's my worry. That's my worry. Because

00:13:00.720 it's the only way to explain how it has become so vehement, so and so vitriolic. Because I've heard

00:13:06.480 the same thing too. It has become this narrative, no longer where the virus came from, for example,

00:13:13.600 or whether the government's policies or measures have been successful. Everything is now blamed

00:13:19.040 on this one group of people. And are there ways you can counter that? Like, who do you blame when,

00:13:23.600 say, 100% of the population is vaccinated? But at the point, at this point in Canada, that is the

00:13:29.040 group. And I mean, if one group can be isolated like that, then other groups can be isolated. And I

00:13:36.720 think it falls back into the, unfortunately, the leftist narrative that we're actually fundamentally

00:13:41.440 very bad people that need to be kept in line. So I don't, I don't like to see it at all.

00:13:47.120 Yeah, I mean, so what you say totally reminds me of, you know, the Liberals. Liberals used to

00:13:53.040 openly condemn the Conservatives. And Trudeau used to do a pretty good job of, you know, directing his anger

00:14:00.160 at Conservative politicians, and not sort of small C Conservative Canadians. But in the last election,

00:14:06.480 we saw that anger be directed at entire groups of people, like you said, the unvaccinated sort of

00:14:12.240 scapegoated. The way that Trudeau spoke down about them, you know, these are Canadian citizens who have

00:14:18.720 just as much of a right to their beliefs as any other Canadian. And to see that shift was pretty

00:14:24.880 alarming. But to your point, you know, the Liberals used to be the one that would speak out against the

00:14:29.520 Conservatives, accusing them of fear mongering about immigration and refugees, about condemning

00:14:39.040 Conservatives. Remember, they characterized a Conservative pledge in 2011 for a hotline that

00:14:46.080 people could call to report cultural violence, violence against women. And the Liberals characterized

00:14:51.520 that as a snitch line. And so all of these kind of things that the Liberals used to speak out against,

00:14:55.840 they're now doing themselves. You know, Conservatives used to care a lot about freedom. We used to hear

00:15:01.440 Conservatives always talk about being the party of freedom, free markets, religious freedom,

00:15:07.440 freedom of speech. And even the NDP used to be the sort of party of civil liberties and left

00:15:12.880 libertarians. And now we don't really hear any of the parties talking about freedom. We don't really hear

00:15:18.400 that at all. So Harley, what do you think we can do, you know, as journalists, as reporters, as writers,

00:15:24.480 as Canadians, to try to shift the focus back towards protecting our freedoms, being vigilant about it,

00:15:32.480 because, you know, it's a slippery slope. And I think we take we take it for granted that we live in

00:15:38.080 this wonderful, free, peaceful society. And it's not a given that it's going to be this way 50 years from

00:15:43.600 now. And I, I worry about, you know, the direction we're going. So what's your what's your take on all

00:15:49.280 of this? Well, I believe outlets like True North are essential, because they're the I mean, they're

00:15:56.960 almost like on the rebellion side of it at this point, because the narrative has been so concerted,

00:16:02.880 the mainstream narrative, that we're essentially being cancelled for speaking out. But outlets that

00:16:08.800 can hold on and keep pushing the truth will become increasingly attractive to people that just start

00:16:15.040 to think and I do believe they will start to think, why am I why am I hearing the same message over and

00:16:20.320 over and over again? Why am I not allowed to question what I'm hearing? Why is it the moment

00:16:25.040 somebody has a question, they are told to be quiet, they are kicked out, they are fired, like that this

00:16:30.960 isn't right. And I do believe in people, I believe in everyday people, I don't believe in no political

00:16:36.480 classes, things like that, because, you know, they're they become saturated with the interests

00:16:41.360 of their of their own group. I believe in everyday people, voters, electorate workers, things like

00:16:46.080 that. And they're the ones I think that that will start to wake up if and I believe they're already

00:16:52.240 are awake. Let's I don't I don't mean to say it that way. I believe when you talk to people, a lot of

00:16:56.560 people realize this is wrong. I think it's just a matter of telling them their voice matters. I think

00:17:01.520 it's sad that we're in a situation where we do need to reassure people in Canada their voice

00:17:05.440 matters, because it is a Western democracy. I don't know where we got to the point that we just

00:17:09.840 that we didn't think our voice mattered enough that we couldn't challenge our political overlords.

00:17:16.960 But I just think just bring up more stories about how this is affecting everyday people,

00:17:23.520 bring to light the gravity and consequences of some of these policies, where they're headed,

00:17:29.120 where they could go from now because, you know, people freedoms aren't lost in one fell swoop.

00:17:35.440 You know, like, it starts with a knock on the door and somebody saying we're here to help and then

00:17:40.480 gradually it goes from there and it becomes something more much more insidious. So I think

00:17:45.120 it just believe in people, be honest, don't shut people down when they say things that,

00:17:52.560 you know, aren't fashionable. It's all about again, a fundamental right, which is freedom of speech.

00:17:58.080 And that's been constantly under assault. And, you know, I don't know what level of the dungeon

00:18:04.400 it's in right now, but freedom of speech hasn't seen the light of day for a while now.

00:18:10.880 Well, really closely connected to freedom of speech is freedom of the press, freedom to report.

00:18:16.800 And one of the sort of other troubling trends in our society, Harley, is the sort of growing reach of

00:18:22.960 government within media companies and journalism in Canada. There's very few federal national

00:18:28.800 reporters anymore that aren't somehow either funded or subsidized by the Trudeau government. And

00:18:34.320 that has a real perverse effect on the issues that matter to the journalists, the way they report.

00:18:40.000 And, and I think that is part of the problem as well. You sent me an amusing, it's sort of amusing,

00:18:45.440 sort of terrifying and sad article from, from the CBC. I want to talk a little bit about it now.

00:18:52.800 It's it's the headline here is words and phrases you may want to think twice, but using historical

00:19:00.080 cultural context, important for phrases like grandfathered in and spirit animal. And then basically

00:19:05.680 the whole article is, you know, we're hearing from experts, we're hearing from woke experts,

00:19:11.200 telling us that our language is racist, sexist, or ableist, and that we should just scrub these words

00:19:17.680 out of the, out of our vocabulary. To me, whenever journalists or government officials stand over us

00:19:24.880 and tell us that we must not use words anymore. It, you know, you talked about how snitch lines felt a

00:19:32.080 little bit like Nazi Germany, you know, erasing words from the dictionary, it feels very Orwellian,

00:19:37.840 very much like a totalitarian North Korea. What were your thoughts when you when you first saw this

00:19:44.080 article, Harley? Well, Cosmin just wrote a piece on it for True North, I urge people to go check it out.

00:19:52.480 My first reaction is to laugh. I don't want to give, give them too much power here. It's ridiculous when

00:19:59.360 you start singling out phrases like, you know, sold down the river as being like deeply racist, 0.83

00:20:05.040 and we must avoid doing them. And also implying that, that somehow certain people have antennas

00:20:10.000 that pick up the meanings of these. I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a scholar of language. I love etymologies.

00:20:16.080 I love languages. You can dig down into the very molecules of words, and they, they meant different

00:20:22.080 things at different times. And I, uh, you can explore them as a, as elaborate. They think,

00:20:28.560 and it's sure you can find things that you could interpret as insulting in some capacity, but

00:20:34.720 most people, when they say a word, it just means a thing straightforward. They're just trying to

00:20:38.960 get a point across the, their thoughts and their words are the same thing. And it's their intention

00:20:43.600 that matters. You can tell when you're talking to someone, whether that person hates you or not,

00:20:48.000 at least you should be able to. Some people have mastered, um, the ability to do it, but,

00:20:52.240 um, and it's, it's, it's that, that, that, that, that, uh, intention that matters, not the word

00:20:58.160 they're using. Uh, George Orwell actually wrote a, a very important essay called Politics in the

00:21:02.800 English Language, where he said, you can say extremely cruel and, and, um, and politically

00:21:08.400 incorrect things using very acceptable language. And you can also do the opposite. You can use, um,

00:21:14.160 very, uh, inappropriate language to express, express something that's politically incorrect.

00:21:18.720 One example that I've used, um, came from the inner city where, and excuse me, somebody said, uh,

00:21:25.280 hoses people too, hoses deserve the vote. You know, that is a politically correct mentality, 1.00

00:21:31.280 expressed politically incorrect language. Um, but I go back to 2017 also where, uh, Justin Trudeau,

00:21:38.240 if you remember, used the word people kind, um, when, uh, when, uh, someone in a, uh, a town hall

00:21:45.280 used the word mankind. And, uh, I think, I think he thought he was being funny. Um, but you know,

00:21:51.680 with, with, with the liberals now, you never know. Um, and, uh, the idea that somehow man is inherently

00:21:57.600 sexist and, uh, that we must say people at all times and the word man originally meant human and

00:22:04.000 mankind, or first all humankind, and it becomes an academic exercise literally when we start

00:22:09.680 getting into all the different meanings of words and where they come from. And that's why it's neat

00:22:13.840 to pick up a book of etymology and the origins of phrases. Um, cause it's just, you know, it's just a

00:22:20.240 jaunt into, into the past. Um, these are things we have to, we have to, um, come to learn, not things

00:22:27.120 that we somehow know by speaking a language, but to get back to your point about, um, it being, um,

00:22:32.720 you know, insidious, uh, cancelling speech and making certain ideas, um, uh, inappropriate

00:22:43.200 for public discourse has always been, um, the goal of the opponents of free speech.

00:22:49.440 And that's not to deny that hurtful terms don't exist, but we know what they are. We don't need

00:22:54.560 to be tapped on the shoulders until actually that's a bad word. We know what the bad words

00:22:58.480 are. We're grownups. We speak English. Um, but when people come along and they say, no, no, no,

00:23:03.840 it's not just about whole categories of thought or arguments that are wrong. They try to tell you the

00:23:10.960 very elements of language are wrong. They are trying to take away the very fibers of the carpet you're

00:23:20.080 standing on and think how hard it would be to formulate an argument, even, even to organize

00:23:27.200 your own thoughts. When you are worried that every word you use might contain something either

00:23:34.960 offensive or that will turn you into a deplorable in the eyes of the respectable classes. And I think

00:23:41.520 that is probably the most evil side of this. That said, I think it's funny. I think it's, it's a silly,

00:23:47.840 it's a silly article. It's fun to laugh at, but taken to extremes. It is trying to rip our tongues 0.96

00:23:54.000 out. It's trying to rob us of a fundamental tool of civilization, which is the, which is the ability

00:24:00.720 to make our thoughts known to others and to communicate them.

00:24:04.960 I, that was just so well articulated how I really appreciate that. It reminds me, there's a part in

00:24:09.920 Douglas Murray's book, The Madness of Crowds, where he talked about cancel culture. And part of the problem

00:24:15.120 is that the rules are constantly changing. So you may say something or do something that's perfectly

00:24:20.000 appropriate today in 2021, but the rules that the left is creating will mob is constantly evolving.

00:24:26.960 And so something that you say that's fine and politically correct today may not be politically

00:24:31.520 correct tomorrow. And, and the impact that that has on society and your ability to, like you say,

00:24:36.400 think clearly, speak clearly. I mean, I'll just pull out a couple of silly examples from the CBC article,

00:24:41.920 because it's so absurd. I think your point is completely correct that they're, they're trying to 0.61

00:24:48.000 push fear and instill fear into people that no matter what they do, they're not going to be

00:24:52.720 like, like there's hidden meanings in our words, even if we don't have those intentions.

00:24:57.280 And the effect is, is chilling speech. Like one of the examples is not to use the term spooky

00:25:02.480 around Halloween. That spooky is used around Halloween to describe something that's frightening

00:25:07.360 or strange or scary, like a ghost. However, there's this, you know, obscure reference that

00:25:12.800 during World War Two, it was used as a racial slur against black soldiers. So, so because that,

00:25:18.640 even though that the purpose of the word is different, it's not even the same word, right?

00:25:23.120 But, but you shouldn't even use that word spooky at Halloween, because it could be perceived by some

00:25:27.760 hypersensitive small group as being racist. Another one that we've heard a lot of, I don't know if this

00:25:32.880 was in the article or not, it probably was, but, but the idea that you shouldn't use the term master

00:25:37.760 bedroom to, to describe the master that, you know, the, the, the grand, the big, the biggest room in

00:25:42.640 the house. And, and, and the interesting thing is that the use of that word master bathroom,

00:25:47.600 it came into effect. I read about this when I first heard people trying to say, don't use that word.

00:25:52.240 And it didn't have anything to do with slavery. It didn't have anything to do with the, you know,

00:25:56.560 Jim Crow South or whatever. The term master bedroom was created by the real estate industry

00:26:01.280 after the second world war, when there was the boom. And it was designed to make people feel

00:26:05.760 like they are the master of their own domain and the master of their own home. So, so it doesn't

00:26:09.520 even, both these words, it doesn't even have the root of, you know, anything to do with being racist.

00:26:15.040 However, they're sort of superficially imposing that onto any word that sounds like it might sound

00:26:20.240 like a word that might have a bad meaning. And, you know, this, this erasing of our language,

00:26:25.040 to me, it's, it, I agree. It's funny in this article, so stupid, but at the same time, 0.99

00:26:31.200 I know what they're doing. And as we've seen from recent history, like, like they're the woke 1.00

00:26:36.800 push towards, uh, you know, changing our language, it's, it's having an impact. It's successful.

00:26:42.000 How many people do you see nowadays that put their pronouns, um, in their profile or on, in their bio,

00:26:47.760 you know, a couple of years ago, when Jordan Peterson first started talking about this issue,

00:26:50.800 it was like, it was like, this is a very strange academic university battle. And now it's like,

00:26:56.480 all around us. And, and, and it's like, you know, when they come up with these ideas

00:27:00.080 and, and, and start pushing it, they just seem to have a lot of success of steamrolling,

00:27:04.000 uh, people hardly. So all that's just to say, I, I agree with what you're saying. And, um, I, I thank you

00:27:11.200 for, um, for bringing this to my attention. Uh, what, what, what do you think about all that?

00:27:16.560 Well, I mean, the first thing that came to mind when I looked at the article was that the word

00:27:20.240 lady refer etymologically refers to the kneading of dough. The, the, the lady part refers to like

00:27:26.480 a loaf of bread. It's like lofty. Then it became lady over time. So is that insulting? Does that

00:27:31.440 imply all women belong in the kitchen? You could make that argument. I could have written an article 1.00

00:27:35.520 like this completely satirically, which is why it's, it was funny. But then again, most people who

00:27:41.040 read it probably don't have that ability. Um, they just look at it and they would laugh or they'd be scared.

00:27:47.360 Um, but again, there are stupid examples. I read stupid examples in there saying, for example, 1.00

00:27:52.240 first world problems. We, we use that. We use the phrase first world problems, 1.00

00:27:56.480 but it's in a way of recognizing how spoiled we actually are. Um, and they, uh, the article will

00:28:02.400 say, oh, it's actually insulting to, uh, you know, uh, less developed countries. Well, no, it's not.

00:28:06.720 It's making fun of us. I remember talking to a coworker when he was asking how things are going in town with

00:28:11.360 the recovery. And I said, oh, our wifi isn't up yet, but if that's the worst of it, then I guess

00:28:17.120 we're doing pretty well. He said, yeah, first world problems, you know, so saying, you know,

00:28:22.000 saying we're going to cancel terms like that, along with the terms we all recognize to be bad,

00:28:27.520 it's just, it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And I think it gets us back to laughing

00:28:31.680 at it again. Um, even though, as you said, some of this stuff makes too much headway because I don't

00:28:37.120 think we know quite how to challenge it yet. And unless we use words in a, in a, in a more kind of

00:28:43.760 blunt fashion, try and, uh, you know, that doesn't work either trying to, uh, for example, uh, reappropriate

00:28:51.920 terms that have been deemed politically incorrect in the past. Um, and, uh, if I could make one more,

00:28:57.840 one more analogy about it, um, certain things that we're constantly replacing the words for be they,

00:29:03.760 because they become unacceptable. Uh, a new, a new word comes out every few years, for example,

00:29:10.080 that we're supposed to use. And some of us don't understand why they're like, what, what's wrong

00:29:14.160 with the other word? Oh, well, it's, it's racist or insensitive. And I would argue, well, then it's

00:29:18.560 not the word in that case, the word is almost a bandage and it's the wound beneath that is, that is

00:29:24.320 becoming infected and it's infecting the bandage. So maybe it's this constant preoccupation with,

00:29:30.640 with the thing referring to as being bad and not the word. But again, a lot of us don't, don't,

00:29:35.840 didn't have a problem with the concepts to begin with. So, uh, it's, it's a slippery slope. I agree.

00:29:41.040 And learning to keep, keep abreast of these things is like being bilingual. It's like speaking

00:29:45.440 a socially acceptable language and then speaking a private language. Um, but, uh, in this case,

00:29:50.400 I think it's, uh, the examples are careless and silly enough that I think we can all laugh at them.

00:29:55.040 So I recommend people just check out the article and, you know, check out the, uh, the list of

00:29:59.840 words because they're, they're pretty funny. It's, it's certainly a silly and I'm glad that True

00:30:04.800 North, uh, covered it. So if you don't want to, uh, if you don't want to go to the CBC website,

00:30:09.360 you don't want to patronize that and you can just check it out, uh, through our website, tnc.news.

00:30:14.080 Well, Harley, we're just so thrilled to have you on board. You're, you're obviously just a very

00:30:18.000 well-rounded, well-read, intelligent person. You're going to bring a lot to True North. So we're, we're very

00:30:22.800 lucky to have you and look forward to, I look forward to all the things, all the great things

00:30:26.480 hopefully that you're going to do for us. Again, really happy to be here, Candice, and, uh, looking

00:30:30.720 forward to talking to you anytime. Excellent. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks for tuning

00:30:35.360 in. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

Juno News - December 06, 2021

Does ANYBODY still care about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms？

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