Juno News - January 24, 2025


Does the U.S. need Canada？


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00:00:00.640 yeah i was wondering i don't know if i seen you in glasses before probably not i gave up on
00:00:06.240 wearing them for like two to three years and um yeah my eyesight got a lot worse in that time
00:00:12.560 do you wear contacts at all or no no no i never really had like they're a really minor prescription
00:00:18.800 and then all of a sudden i started getting all these headaches and i like noticed i was like
00:00:21.920 squinting to see the clock when it was a few feet away and um i put them on and i was like oh that's
00:00:28.560 what that's supposed to look like so i think i am at the point now where they might become like a
00:00:34.080 regular occurrence but they were basically just something i would wear like here and there before
00:00:39.520 i've heard like falling asleep with contacts is like the worst thing yeah they seem like a huge
00:00:44.800 pain and then when you travel you've got to like bring all that extra stuff so i think i'll just
00:00:48.720 stick with the glasses frames i've noticed a similar decline in my vision since working at true north
00:00:58.480 probably because i'm staring at a screen all day so that's a casualty of war you know we're putting
00:01:03.360 our bodies on the line out here at true north cosmic the mug is a much better fit for you whenever i
00:01:10.560 drink it that you can't see the logo because it's backwards look i know it's like a plain mug
00:01:20.800 we need to talk to management about this easily we need the label on both sides i think williams to
00:01:25.760 blame for that i mean most people are right-handed so it does seem like quite the oversight yeah yeah
00:01:32.560 we're gonna have to have start having two mugs lefties and righties anyways let's just put it on
00:01:39.040 both sides let's hop into our first story here so i guess i mean we've all been following the trade war
00:01:51.040 that's breaking out between canada and the united states i feel like as soon as i put out content on
00:01:55.680 this it immediately becomes out of date because there's like constant new announcements i think
00:02:01.840 we probably all felt that way on inauguration day like the day before everyone was talking about the
00:02:06.800 tariffs were coming and we saw all these op-eds about all the you know we're coming into effect and
00:02:11.600 then first thing on inauguration day i guess that was monday morning oh we hear the tariffs aren't coming
00:02:17.200 and now people writing op-eds about how you know danielle smith won and there was not going to
00:02:22.080 be any tariffs or there was like the counterpoint that we were not getting the tariff despite danielle
00:02:26.720 smith not having a team canada approach and then a few hours later in the day oh we are still getting
00:02:32.160 the tariffs they've just been delayed to february 1st and it's basically just been a really transient
00:02:37.760 story yesterday i had a guest on my show the rachel parker show you guys should all go watch if you
00:02:43.040 haven't seen it actually was at the inauguration a former special advisor to jason kenny and he's a
00:02:48.320 number of contacts in dc including people headed into the trump administration and you know he was
00:02:54.720 on the ground he was getting a feel for what everyone was saying and seems like you know what
00:02:59.520 he from what he's heard danielle smith has been very well received there and the americans have
00:03:05.520 noticed her efforts um to you know work with donald trump and with the republicans to get a deal
00:03:12.880 for canada and she's actually you know pretty respected for being there because in contrast
00:03:19.920 you know justin trudeau and the federal government really should have been there they should have
00:03:24.320 at least had some representatives at the inauguration trying to secure meetings with republicans
00:03:30.800 uh to advocate for canada and to show excitement for the new american administration to have
00:03:36.320 you know our voices canadian voices heard at the table they were noticeably absent we know that
00:03:41.200 justin trudeau had his last caucus retreat just a final last gift of the bill to taxpayers for
00:03:49.040 a luxury retreat for him and his staff the type that an average canadian would never get to experience
00:03:54.960 and so what i heard was that danielle smith was well received but the federal government was missing
00:04:00.240 in action at the table and the americans picked up on all of that and so flash forward to today
00:04:06.800 donald trump was speaking at the world economic forum conference that's currently happening in
00:04:13.360 in davos switzerland and he's basically saying we don't need canada we do not need their lumber we have
00:04:20.240 our own lumber we do not need their car parts we can manufacture those car parts here in america and
00:04:26.240 he said we do not need their energy we have our own energy that we are going to produce take a listen to
00:04:32.560 exactly what he had to say at the wf today we do one thing we're going to be demanding is we're going
00:04:37.520 to be demanding respect from other nations uh canada we have a tremendous deficit with canada we're
00:04:44.720 not going to have that anymore we can't do it it's it's i don't know if it's good for them
00:04:49.600 as you probably know i say you can always become a state and if you're a state we won't have a deficit
00:04:55.120 we won't have to tariff you etc etc but canada has been very tough to deal with over the years and
00:05:01.200 it's not fair that we should have a 200 billion or 250 billion dollar deficit we don't need them to
00:05:07.760 make our cars and they make a lot of them we don't need their lumber because we have our own forests etc
00:05:13.120 etc we don't need their oil and gas we have our we have more than anybody so obviously this spells
00:05:19.120 bad news from canada for canada and i think what we're really seeing here is um protectionism from
00:05:25.680 donald trump and we're seeing sort of a return for wanting to do things at home in the state he
00:05:32.400 does want to increase manufacturing in america to create those good american jobs we've heard him say
00:05:38.720 time and time again and he especially said this over and over at his inauguration speech he said this is
00:05:43.600 going to be the golden age of america and we know that something that's so important to him is putting
00:05:49.360 good paychecks in the pockets of american voters and he's planning to do that by creating jobs
00:05:55.680 through manufacturing whether it's to increase their lumber capacity he sounds like he's even
00:06:00.960 planning on increasing their energy capacity you know there might be a time when they do not need
00:06:06.240 as much energy from alberta as they currently get now that's not something that's going to happen
00:06:09.520 overnight those are big projects that often require years to get built to the point where you can begin
00:06:15.280 producing that energy but we're seeing a a shift and how the americans are going about their
00:06:22.480 relationship with canada and i don't think that canada is really prepared to deal with that because
00:06:28.240 our economy especially here in alberta and that's not necessarily the fault of the albertans
00:06:33.200 but it is so reliant on americans buying our products and we have not been successful in you know
00:06:40.000 building those pipelines that we want across canada um you know whether that's the whether that's to the
00:06:44.880 east or to the north we know that alberta has tried and the rest of canada has shut down which
00:06:48.960 is one of the reasons why daniel smith was so angry when the federal government said if donald trump
00:06:54.880 implements these tariffs we're going to turn off the taps and we're not going to let that alberta
00:06:58.320 energy flow to the states because she said look alberta's wanted to get our product to markets elsewhere
00:07:03.520 in canada but the rest of the provinces just didn't want that and and now you're basically going to
00:07:09.280 be ending our ability to produce and to create revenue for the province so this is new information
00:07:15.120 today with donald trump saying we don't need canada anymore is new information and i think there's a
00:07:20.080 lot of premiers who are probably freaking out right now cosmon what's your take sure you mentioned at
00:07:27.120 the beginning that the news cycle is changing so rapidly uh but i think it's just the legacy media
00:07:35.200 is in complete panic mode they don't have a clear head about what's going on i think at the federal
00:07:41.600 level nobody's thinking about this situation clearly and that's exactly what donald trump wants he lobbed
00:07:50.000 a grenade into canadian politics at a perfect moment uh for the americans because the americans have the
00:07:59.200 upper hand there's insta political instability at the federal level in canada we're facing an election
00:08:06.560 we don't have a clear leader we have a lame duck sitting in the office of the prime minister and now
00:08:15.600 the provinces are left to deal with this mess on their own and they're struggling to have a unified
00:08:22.640 message simply because this is bringing up all of the problems we have as a nation when it comes to
00:08:31.120 unification there are clear and current issues when it comes to western uh sentiments and the unfair deal
00:08:41.440 that western provinces particularly alberta face at the national level and yeah speaking on the
00:08:50.480 lack of unification let's call it cosmon between the premiers it really comes down i think to
00:08:55.920 the difference in opinion and approach of danielle smith versus everyone else of course we saw
00:09:02.160 the premiers all meet with justin trudeau recently and smith refused to to sign the joint statement that they
00:09:10.080 all released uh in regard to the american tariffs this is right before donald trump was sworn in and then
00:09:17.840 we've seen a recent rift i think this was yesterday because trudeau said he wanted to go dollar for
00:09:23.120 dollar on tariffs with the united states and then ontario premier doug ford actually said the very
00:09:29.840 same thing but smith of course was saying yeah the u.s's economy is 10 times the size of ours and they
00:09:37.200 rely much less on us than we do on them if we try and start this war with them we are going to be
00:09:43.040 decimated and these arguments don't even get into the fact that we need the united states for
00:09:48.320 protection not just from an economical standpoint but from a public safety standpoint so i mean just
00:09:55.600 we're really in a no-win situation here i think with the any bickering with the united states they're
00:10:00.800 like our big brother uh we need them and we in no way shape or form should be egging them on with a
00:10:07.120 tariff trade war yeah isaac i think you've really hit the nail on the head when you said this is a
00:10:12.640 no-win situation for canada and also your comments about defense the source that i had on yesterday
00:10:19.040 basically said you know we're hearing time and time again from our american counterparts just how bad
00:10:25.440 security is in canada and canadians aren't even aware of it because it's not covered here in the
00:10:30.800 legacy media and so you know i think for a lot of us we thought oh there's so few um you know illegals
00:10:36.880 crossing into the states from canada versus what they're getting from mexico donald trump can't
00:10:41.200 really mean that the tariffs you know this is about something else well no actually security is
00:10:45.920 a big problem and it is a concern for them and on the issue of retaliatory tariffs you know we're
00:10:51.200 talking about how this this is a constantly changing news story i mean now saskatchewan premier
00:10:56.640 scott moe is saying i don't know if i'm with the with the feds and with ontario for that so that
00:11:02.800 so-called team canada approach that danielle smith and alberto were roundly criticized for
00:11:08.640 not engaging in is sort of falling apart all around us and i don't know how the canadian
00:11:14.880 provinces are going to respond to the tariffs on february 1st because that is in flux as we speak
00:11:21.520 right now well just look if i can jump off of that um i think the main issue is donald trump
00:11:29.840 is treating canada looking at canada as an adversary and our federal government has given
00:11:36.560 him a lot of reason to do so uh particularly in the way prime minister justin trudeau his cabinet
00:11:44.960 and other members of the liberal government have responded to trump and viewed trump but also we
00:11:52.320 we haven't played nice on the trade front with the americans we impose the digital services tax
00:11:58.800 when no other country uh refused to do so i think it was it was the oh it's being talked about in the
00:12:05.280 oecd but nobody else imposed this tax and we imposed it on american tech companies the u.s trade
00:12:13.600 representative under the biden regime kept asking the liberal government to remove this tax so there
00:12:21.760 there's plenty of reason but i don't i don't think canada is the united states's adversary china
00:12:29.040 is the number one adversary when we're talking about trade when we're talking about you know that
00:12:35.200 they they don't it's not just unfair trade practices china's involved in corporate and uh national espionage
00:12:44.160 and they're trying to steal trade secrets from the americans they're trying to
00:12:48.480 outdo them on every front that's the real adversary and i think it's about repositioning canada and
00:12:56.080 perhaps a new government might do that as a friend to the trump administration as a partner instead of an
00:13:02.960 adversary to attack and to essentially try to do economic damage to and there have been a few statements
00:13:12.320 by the u.s president he said look at what canada and the united states could do together he said that
00:13:19.200 would be something right if these two countries combine their massive wealth their massive you know
00:13:27.840 natural resources then we would we would be you know the greatest economic force if we just got along
00:13:35.520 yeah it's interesting i think to your point we are being treated like an adversary because that is
00:13:42.880 just how much canada's global reputation has slipped on the stage in the last nine years under
00:13:50.320 justin trudeau and the liberals to the point that we were once seen as close allies as good friends
00:13:55.200 as neighbors and now we are being treated essentially like a hostile state because of just how low america's
00:14:02.480 opinion has become of us under the last number of years um on pierre polyevre i don't know what his
00:14:08.960 relationship is with donald trump i don't know what it would be should he become the next prime minister
00:14:13.760 because he stayed so quiet perhaps wisely on a number of these issues like how canada should be
00:14:20.160 proceed with the trade war we know he said i'm not the prime minister it's not my job to respond to these issues
00:14:25.600 but i don't know what that relationship with donald trump would look like and i wonder if canada would be
00:14:30.480 given more respect with pierre polyevre running the ship or not what are your thoughts isaac yeah if
00:14:36.480 i do recall polyevre he did at one point call for retaliatory tariffs but look the liberal party of
00:14:44.160 canada have been very combative with donald trump over the last few years in in many instances they have
00:14:51.520 just been combative with him and not been kind to him at all so not just pierre polyevre but anyone with
00:14:57.520 a clean slate you would assume would have a better start than the liberals currently do because they
00:15:01.840 have a negative relationship with donald trump so you're going from the negative to at least a neutral
00:15:06.480 stance and i know trump has commented a few times on polyevre i can't remember exactly what he said but he
00:15:12.160 has spoken of him publicly so he he obviously knows who he is uh we've seen trump have a good relationship with
00:15:19.840 other conservative leaders in canada example being danielle smith of course they're uh close enough
00:15:26.000 because she's always in the united states uh negotiating on canada's behalf at this point with
00:15:32.400 uh without a prime minister with a public mandate but speaking of polyevre for our next story here we're
00:15:38.640 going to hop in to a clip that recently went viral of polyevre which uh might remind you of a certain apple
00:15:45.440 munching clip that we saw back in the day where he challenged a reporter once again let's watch it now
00:15:51.520 all right let's go back to dc right now obviously on his first day on the job president trump signed
00:15:56.240 an executive order uh you know the u.s government only recognizing two genders male female they're
00:16:01.920 unchangeable you know if elected as prime minister is that something that you're going to kind of walk in
00:16:06.880 line with or what are your feelings on that executive order well i don't know you have any other
00:16:12.400 genders that you'd like to name me personally i'm yes i'm just asking more so if you're in line with
00:16:22.080 what he is saying do you agree with what he's saying is that something that you would be lockstep
00:16:26.240 with if elected as prime minister well i i'm not aware of any other genders than men and women i mean
00:16:32.960 if you have any other that you want me to consider you're welcome to tell me right now well there's well
00:16:38.240 there's personally i am a man i'm okay we'll say it's this man there are there are people there
00:16:44.480 who you know they say they're me too i'm a neutral you are a man yes there are people out there who
00:16:48.800 say they're some gender neutral yeah they say they're gender neutral uh they're you know they're
00:16:54.000 they're a trans person is that something that you would recognize here whereas in the states at least
00:17:00.640 with their u.s government the way they're seeing it there's only two i'm only aware of two but i mean
00:17:08.960 if you have if you come up with another list then uh you're welcome to do that but i i'm aware of two
00:17:14.720 and um as far as i'm concerned we should have a government that just minds its own damn business
00:17:19.600 and leaves people alone to make their own personal decisions that's the kind of government i'm going to
00:17:24.240 run and with that you know the current government they currently have passports that allow people to put
00:17:28.560 on you know gender neutral on their passport uh advocate groups want the the government mind you
00:17:34.880 the outgoing government to ask the u.s would the u.s recognize these passports obviously on their way
00:17:39.920 out if you are the next prime minister is that something that you would have to be honest yeah
00:17:44.160 i have to be honest with you i just saw your segment on homeless encampments that are popping up
00:17:49.840 all over toronto we've got 25 of our population in poverty housing costs have doubled crime is rampaging
00:17:57.840 through our streets i just find it to be a strange priority to spend time talking about this my
00:18:03.520 priority is to give people back control of their lives bring back canada's promise that anyone who
00:18:09.920 works hard gets a powerful paycheck and pension that buys affordable food gas and homes in safe
00:18:16.000 neighborhoods that's the promise we need for canadians if liberals want to talk about
00:18:22.240 different labels that for gender that they want to put on passports in the united states they can do that
00:18:27.600 i'm going to talk about the things that will bring home canada's promise yeah so we saw
00:18:33.200 polyevre implement the same technique he did in the apple munching clip where he flipped the question
00:18:38.720 back onto the reporter to get a sense of where he stood and and uh the cp24 news reporter in this
00:18:45.360 instance seemed hesitant but we we seen polyevre ask whether this reporter had any examples of other
00:18:52.080 genders than men and women and he was really pushing the envelope on what do you mean by other
00:18:57.760 genders i think the reporter named two or three but certainly not through the list of like 70 that
00:19:04.880 some people uh claim there are so yeah what do you we we haven't really seen polyevre engage much on the
00:19:12.560 gender debate or many debates in the past because he seems to really try and keep a neutral stance uh on lots of
00:19:19.520 things maybe because he doesn't really need to get involved with them to to win the subsequent election
00:19:27.040 based on current polling yeah what did you guys think of that clip there well i had a good chuckle
00:19:32.800 at the clip it was a very canadian exchange and i had to laugh at all of the posts being like
00:19:38.720 pair poly of roast mainstream media reporter when asked you know if there should be more than two genders
00:19:45.040 because like he didn't actually roast like it was sort of a awkward and funny exchange in watching
00:19:51.200 it you were just so like this is so ridiculous and so silly that we're having this conversation
00:19:56.800 but it is relevant it is important in this ear but the fact that like we're having a conversation about
00:20:01.360 how many genders there are like if you take a moment and actually think about it it's like so dumb
00:20:05.600 that the leader of the official opposition needs to take the time and say that on national television
00:20:10.480 but really when he was asked about it he didn't say anything rude back to the reporter he was just
00:20:14.720 like well what genders would you have me add like it was it was a very simple defense and in that sense
00:20:21.680 i think very canadian because it wasn't rude or hostile and so i just kind of laughed at the exchange
00:20:27.680 um and i think you know it really caught the reporter off guard because reporters are not typically used
00:20:33.040 to being asked questions um in response to their questions and we've noticed that leaders um throughout
00:20:39.200 north america have started doing this to point holes in their in the arguments and the fallacies
00:20:43.760 of the questions that they're asking in the first place and i think that has been very effective
00:20:49.920 so but go ahead cosmon yeah just goes to show how out of touch the legacy media is that they're
00:20:56.400 even asking this in the first place obviously it was in response to an executive order signed by
00:21:02.480 us president donald trump but of all of the different news we've talked about here
00:21:08.560 and the ongoing problems we have uh i think this is our primary problem is the trade stuff
00:21:15.120 touching on anything else the public wants to know what is going to happen they they're looking
00:21:20.720 at canada we're going to face a recession they want to know how we will be protected as citizens
00:21:27.840 as businesses and and as workers and how can we move forward but the media is out there they're not
00:21:36.560 doing anybody favors by pursuing this line and it's ridiculous it now is not the time for that now is
00:21:43.680 the time to look at things objectively and with a clear head yeah cosmon you kind of touched on
00:21:52.000 something that polifra said as well which was of course people are going to focus on the lead let's
00:21:58.320 call it of that interview where wherein he's just asking the reporter what he actually thinks but he also
00:22:03.200 said why are we focusing on this gender stuff when we're our country is in economic disarray i think
00:22:08.400 polifra cited 25 of canadians live in poverty i mean that is a shocking number so the legacy media
00:22:15.440 focusing on this and i think polifra even alluded to the fact that the liberal party has been focusing
00:22:20.480 on these gender issues it's just we have much bigger concerns as canadians and if i could just add isaac the
00:22:27.840 other thing is that's more notable about this as well is that as soon as you push back even a tiny
00:22:35.760 amount at the people who believe in this gender nonsense immediately break down because there's no
00:22:43.040 rational logical foundation for their beliefs it's just simply based on you know their feelings and and
00:22:50.320 they they talk you know they will always cite human rights etc etc but it's not it's not based on reality
00:22:57.840 and i think this interview is a clear example of that that even the most simple question of how many
00:23:04.000 genders do you think exist trips people up who buy into this because they they know from you know they're
00:23:15.120 like their subconscious mind knows that there are only two genders and when they try to argue make an
00:23:22.720 argument otherwise it's like their own brain starts to light up and and have to make excuses and come
00:23:30.240 up with and it's funny that he he brought up the i have fact that there's three you know he said well
00:23:36.400 i know there's man woman and and gender fluid and what is that like what where are you talking about like
00:23:42.960 like everything out like it's just it's it's so not grounded in reality and i i it's good that
00:23:50.800 this clip brings that out because it just goes to show people that when you are talking to people
00:23:56.960 who try to bring this nonsense up the easiest thing you can do is just push back with simple questions
00:24:04.000 yeah i have to say that i i mean i didn't take i actually don't think that the reporter was wrong
00:24:08.640 to ask the question it was actually a really good question and even the fact that it's blown up now like
00:24:15.120 as a reporter you don't want to become the story but don't you kind of want your interviews to blow up
00:24:20.080 don't you want to get as many eyeballs with them as possible don't you want a viral moment albeit
00:24:24.480 maybe you don't want to be you know the the point of the butt of the joke in that viral moment um i
00:24:30.480 would have asked pierre polyev something similar you know donald trump passed this executive order
00:24:34.800 is this something you agree with would you look to make such legislative changes here in canada should
00:24:39.520 you become the next prime minister it was really the awkwardness became in that moment when pierre
00:24:44.720 polyev didn't really answer the question he just kind of responded with what what should i add
00:24:50.800 uh obviously i would have said well well yeah i think it's a great policy to pass i think obviously
00:24:55.040 you need to explain that there should only be two genders and that should be federal government policy
00:24:59.120 in the in the way that they word things and and that reporter though that isn't his understanding of
00:25:05.440 the situation and certainly wouldn't be his worldview and that's when he caught started to get a little
00:25:09.920 bit caught off guard and then you know he felt like he needed to give a defense for the others
00:25:15.680 but he didn't know what who the others were he doesn't actually know anything about the transgender
00:25:20.160 movement that was clear so he had surface level information on something and as soon as he was
00:25:25.360 tested on it he didn't know how to respond because he couldn't even think of what other genders were
00:25:29.920 and i don't blame him because i don't know what they all are either there's like how many are they
00:25:33.440 claim there's like 60 or 70 or 90 i i don't know what they are but i don't believe that so i don't care
00:25:38.320 and it's not important for my world do that i know that information where it was kind of an awkward
00:25:42.800 moment then for the rep got embarrassing pretty quickly yeah this uh actually reminds me of a red
00:25:53.360 deer conference i went to where chris ruffo was speaking and he he really emphasized uh when speaking
00:26:00.560 with people on the other side of the political spectrum or challenging them in any way it was very
00:26:06.000 important he said to question them to really understand whether they even believe what they're
00:26:11.440 saying which is essentially what polyefra did in this instance with the reporter it's like okay well
00:26:15.040 what what do you actually know about what you're asking me anyways um i also read through the
00:26:20.640 executive order uh that donald trump signed regarding the genders where he essentially said that the
00:26:25.840 government would only recognize man and woman and we saw ndp leader in canada jagmeet singh
00:26:31.680 comment on this uh saying that canada could become a safe haven for transgender people uh let's watch
00:26:38.960 that clip now should canada amend the safe third country agreement for trans americans who come to
00:26:45.040 our borders seeking refuge uh on that note i think it's really sad for the folks in the states right now
00:26:51.680 that that heard the president basically say that they don't exist or that their their reality or their
00:26:57.200 identity is no longer recognized it's really scary for a lot of folks and and i just want to acknowledge
00:27:03.040 how scary that must be for people who heard that who now feel really alone who feel really afraid
00:27:08.560 i think what canada has always done is shown as a country that we are there for people when they're
00:27:13.600 in their times in need it's something that's been a point of pride of canada so looking at
00:27:19.120 the third country the third the that agreement and and how we can amend it uh it's been something that
00:27:24.880 we've been considering for a while we've raised concerns about the the agreement uh for a while
00:27:29.520 um and so it's something we'll look at yeah so what do you guys think of what singh had to say
00:27:33.840 there especially if say what what he's alluding to actually occurred and transgender people started
00:27:40.560 flocking here from the united states with the existing border concerns and the existing immigration
00:27:45.840 concerns i mean what how does that how does this kind of play into that well they do this all the time
00:27:52.560 right like they they will say canada you know people are gonna flee the united states to canada
00:27:58.080 they did it with the uh supreme court ruling on abortion laws in the united states they were claiming
00:28:03.840 oh all these women are gonna come to canada to seek abortions right but that it's just they don't
00:28:11.120 view this clearly as i've been saying like they they have a totally distorted understanding of what
00:28:18.400 is really happening and in the fact is the united states it is safe to be transgender it is safe to
00:28:25.040 be gay it is safe to be a lesbian it is safe to be you know an immigrant it's not a country where there's
00:28:33.520 religious persecution there isn't you know race persecution it has a history of slavery yes but there
00:28:41.520 is no slavery in the united states anymore it is a free country it is one of the it is the freest country in
00:28:47.520 the world by by objective standards and to say that canada will somehow become this place where people
00:28:55.120 are fleeing the united states is ridiculous because there's no reason to flee you know it's admitting
00:29:01.120 that there are two biological genders is not uh you know persecution it's just a statement of fact
00:29:08.720 it's like getting angry and and upset at somebody saying the sky is blue
00:29:13.760 yeah very simple we actually don't need any more people in this country right now we certainly don't
00:29:21.760 need any more people with mental illness in this country and i can tell you right now that if you
00:29:25.920 come you know you're gonna have health care needs especially if you're transgender you're always in and
00:29:30.320 out of the hospital if you're actually getting those surgeries and stuff and you're gonna find it a
00:29:35.280 lot worse off here than in canada than in the states because you simply wouldn't be able to get the
00:29:39.520 treatment that that you need so just just stay in the states don't listen to jagmeet saying he's not
00:29:44.240 actually that relevant here you might think he is because he holds political office but trust me he's
00:29:49.120 far less relevant than he seems and he certainly does not hold a lot of political sway so probably
00:29:54.800 just you know let that one go on by yeah and just to talk about jagmeet singh's relevance i i
00:30:01.680 completely forgot this guy existed in the last few months he has not contributed anything he's i mean the
00:30:09.120 his ability to take advantage of the political situation you would think the ndp would be coming
00:30:17.360 out on top of this as the only legitimate left-wing alternative to the liberals but they're not they're
00:30:23.920 they're they've totally fumbled a golden opportunity because of jagmeet singh he is just nobody likes him
00:30:33.280 and he's dragged his own party from a position of power like relative power to being completely
00:30:41.360 irrelevant he was he literally had the say over what the liberal government was doing and his
00:30:47.680 consistent support of the liberals in non-confidence votes and propping them up for years has cost him
00:30:56.240 and his party's complete political future essentially i i totally blame him and i think
00:31:02.480 the ndp should ask be asking themselves do we want to keep this guy around for much longer because
00:31:08.400 it hasn't been an uphill ride for them at all yeah we've seen in looking at the historical polling and
00:31:15.360 kind of the downfall of the liberal government instead of the ndp taking those seats from the liberals
00:31:22.640 they have fallen as well alongside them and all the seats have gone to the conservatives in fact i
00:31:27.440 was looking at the um seat distribution polls on 338 canada just yesterday and uh i think the ndp
00:31:35.200 were in fourth place behind the bloc and the liberals because the bloc would win so many seats in quebec
00:31:39.680 so i mean they're they're nowhere near becoming a governor governing party we'll all remember jagmeet
00:31:44.720 singh said he was going to be the next prime minister of canada but that doesn't seem to be
00:31:49.040 the case in in in any sense uh yeah cosmon what's going on with the the carbon tax we're seeing uh
00:31:56.800 a lot of historical proponents of the carbon tax now back away from it in light of the leadership
00:32:02.880 election what's going on with that yeah so stephen gilbault the environment minister essentially
00:32:10.320 said he's open to replacing the consumer side of the carbon tax with a different mechanism now he hasn't
00:32:18.080 provided any specifics he hasn't you know uh is it just going to be another rebranding like the
00:32:24.480 liberals did of but with the carbon rebate like what is he talking about i i'm not so sure i 100
00:32:31.040 believe him uh but we have a clip of that of him announcing that right now do you know what he's going
00:32:37.840 to do or have you been briefed on the specifics of his plan and and do you think it it can be an
00:32:42.800 effective replacement for the consumer carbon tax the short answer to your question is yes i have i
00:32:49.200 have spoken with him and i'm confident that by working together with other members of uh of of
00:32:56.000 the liberal caucus and and membership we can come up with a plan that will ensure that canada achieves
00:33:02.160 its its climate goals uh and again he's he's the he's he's incredibly knowledgeable i i i i have great
00:33:11.200 respect for for everything he's done but also his vision and understanding of of this issue which
00:33:16.720 really very few people in the world can say uh they've done as much as he has and understand this
00:33:23.200 issue and so gilbo additionally also supported uh mark carney's plan uh for the carbon tax and
00:33:33.760 mark carney has also indicated support for removing the consumer aspect of the carbon tax but from my
00:33:40.400 understanding the corporate carbon tax would still remain it would still impact businesses uh how
00:33:47.040 genuine do you take this like how is is gilbo being genuine here are the liberal leadership
00:33:54.080 candidates being genuine rachel i don't think so i think they realize that the carbon tax has become
00:34:00.720 extremely unpopular and it's really untenable to run on that in this current climate especially with
00:34:06.880 the conservatives really having made that their issue and so we've seen the front runners for the
00:34:11.520 liberal leadership race come out and say oh we're not going to do the consumer carbon tax we might
00:34:15.680 look at a different plan i wouldn't trust them as far as i can throw them i think that if they were
00:34:23.040 to be elected we'd see them come forward shortly with a plan to make life very difficult for canadians
00:34:29.760 at the same time i think that the conservatives need to get serious and realize that this is probably not
00:34:36.240 going to be a carbon tax election as they have pinpointed it to be and they are going to need
00:34:41.840 to do some serious rebranding very quickly um to discover what their new pitch because it really needs
00:34:47.600 what's the question of the election what is the issue that's top of everyone's mind because i don't
00:34:52.080 think it's going to be the carbon tax and we haven't seen the conservatives make that pivot yet
00:34:56.480 and you bring up a really good point uh rachel that i'm going to throw to you isaac it has this opened
00:35:01.920 up the conservatives to is this a weak point for them because pier poliev has been running on the
00:35:09.520 idea that the next election will be a ticket on the carbon tax voters will be specifically asking
00:35:19.040 themselves about the carbon tax and justin trudeau and that's no longer the case obviously justin trudeau
00:35:25.600 will not be running for prime minister in the next election it will either be carney or freeland
00:35:31.920 so how much has this opened up the conservatives to a certain political vulnerability in the way
00:35:40.000 that they conduct the next campaign a few months out from a potential election this spring yeah i think
00:35:47.280 you know canadians across the nation have been wondering that and if i recall i think polievro
00:35:52.000 was interviewed yesterday and they kind of asked him a question along the same lines like how do you
00:35:56.480 pivot away from the carbon tax now that all the liberals are against it and i don't know that he
00:36:00.880 necessarily insinuated that he was willing to do that he's kind of if he if he were to stick with
00:36:08.480 the carbon tax of course he's going to talk about how the liberals are lying about the carbon tax for
00:36:12.720 example we haven't mentioned that freeland has also stepped away from the carbon tax and uh uh polievro
00:36:19.040 actually put out a statement on her today saying it's freeland versus freeland because everything she's
00:36:22.960 saying now is the exact opposite of what she was saying just a few weeks or months ago so it's really
00:36:28.160 uh a battle of the liberals versus themselves in terms of public opinion because we're seeing them
00:36:34.800 try and distance themselves from things that the public clearly disapprove of and dislike based on
00:36:39.760 polls but of course the liberals themselves are the ones who implemented these very policies
00:36:44.640 so it's hard to and harper talked about this in his interview last week too he said where the liberals
00:36:50.480 were really in an untenable position because the candidates of the leadership election would have to
00:36:54.720 run on the liberal party's platform which canadians are done with but now we're seeing these very
00:37:00.160 candidates try and pretend or distance themselves from the platform altogether so it's a really
00:37:07.840 weird phenomenon wherein the the candidates of the party are trying not to associate with the
00:37:13.280 party's policies it's really uh yeah it's just compelling isn't it yeah and it just brought to mind
00:37:20.160 uh i'll point to my province that i live in british columbia in the last uh provincial election just a few
00:37:28.880 months ago premier david eby said that he would be willing to do away with this province's carbon tax if
00:37:36.880 the federal government changes direction on it or removes the requirement now british columbia is is
00:37:43.760 actually not under the federal pricing scheme they have their own carbon tax so they could get rid of it
00:37:49.040 uh whenever they wanted and then they would get slapped with the federal carbon tax but i just bring
00:37:54.400 that up because now uh eb has a coalition with the greens and there's been no indication that he's going
00:38:02.000 to follow through on that promise and we have an another election on the federal level where the
00:38:07.840 candidates that are likely to replace prime minister justin trudeau are making a similar promise at the federal level to
00:38:15.040 remove this requirement at least for consumers how much like i i know i asked this but like you know
00:38:23.600 is this just political posturing like are they just making false promises to canadians and how much will
00:38:30.880 canadians buy that are it like you know i i don't i think that trust has been lost to some degree and i just
00:38:39.040 don't see canadians falling for a false promise and you touched on that rachel but i'll throw it to
00:38:45.920 either of you yeah yeah just quick talk is cheap and this just reminded me quickly of the recent policies
00:38:53.040 we saw almost implemented there by by the liberals in regard to the tax break and i i just remember
00:38:58.800 reading the polls on this and it's like they're trying to uh give canadians these tax breaks which are
00:39:04.160 working against them as a party because can canadians in these polls were saying that these
00:39:08.800 policies the liberals were implementing were making would make them less likely to support the party in
00:39:14.080 the future not more likely so the policies you're trying to implement to save your party at the last
00:39:18.800 minute are actually pushing canadians further away and i i think this whole backstepping on the carbon
00:39:25.680 tax could uh cause a similar pushing away of canadians because it's like well we know that you're just
00:39:32.720 saying these things but we might not trust that you'll actually follow through on what you're saying
00:39:39.200 i think that voters are fickle i think that given that prime minister justin trudeau has announced his
00:39:45.360 intention to resign when a new leader is selected the margin that we saw you know the conservatives
00:39:50.480 were kind of running away with things that look like i think we'll see that gap narrow i think that
00:39:55.440 we'll have a real election campaigns really do matter what the conservatives do in a general election
00:40:01.760 campaign is going to have a big impact on the outcome of the election i think depending on who
00:40:07.360 the liberals select as our next leader will also greatly impact the election christia freeland is
00:40:12.320 going to have a much harder time distancing herself from justin trudeau than mark carney is
00:40:18.480 sure mark carney was an advisor but he wasn't the one being tromped out there every other week to
00:40:23.680 make announcements that hurt canadians he's not the one who's been pictured with justin trudeau for the
00:40:29.040 last number of years he wasn't justin trudeau's right hand man like christia freeland was so christia
00:40:34.320 freeland gonna be a lot easier to tie her to that disastrous record than it is for mark carney so
00:40:39.760 i think it's gonna be a real election i don't know that the conservatives are gonna run away with it
00:40:44.160 something that stephen harper also recently said in that public interview that he did is he said the
00:40:50.000 thing that canadians are really angry at justin trudeau for is actually the number one issue isn't the
00:40:56.400 economy it's that we've lost our culture under justin trudeau canada has lost its culture and
00:41:02.320 canadians don't know what canada is anymore i don't know i can't speak for anyone else but that
00:41:06.640 absolutely rings true for me i am angry that we've lost our culture i am angry that justin trudeau has
00:41:12.960 described canada as a post-national state with no identity now that of course donald trump wants to
00:41:18.400 claim canada turns out he didn't actually mean that but i think that this election should be one of
00:41:23.680 canadian culture and identity especially because we've seen canadians drastically turn against the
00:41:29.200 high number of immigration okay well canadians haven't turned against immigration because they're
00:41:33.280 racist it's because they care about their culture and because we're seeing it being eroded and i think
00:41:37.520 that's what the election issue should be but do you i'm just curious to ask quick rachel do you think
00:41:45.600 paulia will
00:41:48.720 do you think he'll make it about immigration because we've seen how reluctant he is to talk about
00:41:52.640 immigration in the past i'm just i don't think about immigration because there's so many videos
00:41:58.640 of him in the past few years pushing for more immigration you know calling to stop the deportation
00:42:04.640 saying that more students needed to get visas and they needed to get a pathway to citizenship so it
00:42:08.960 would be a very difficult path for him to do at this point now you can always say you know you've
00:42:13.680 changed your mind um you've changed your ways you see new information it can be done but i don't
00:42:19.280 suspect that the conservatives will make that elect make that the election question as of right now it
00:42:24.080 seems like they're sticking with the carbon tax but i do believe they are going to have to pivot from
00:42:27.280 that at some point okay good to know well that pretty much wraps up our stories for the week uh
00:42:35.440 everything you've heard today has been off the record
00:42:38.080 cool yeah my son woke up about 10 minutes into that pretty pissed i didn't hear him at all
00:42:50.400 well he's a few rooms over so i was like well that noise suppression these days is getting pretty good
00:42:55.680 you know i don't think it's not that good i need some in the in this room i don't think wave actually
00:43:01.040 has any such device but like on zoom and stuff and and other apps it's pretty insane what the
00:43:07.440 noise suppression is like is capable of i feel like for little kids they should make a helmet
00:43:13.280 where you can turn the volume down a little bit like not mute them but just like kind of turn the
00:43:18.320 volume down a few like in the when you're in bed and like the monitor goes off and you're like a few
00:43:23.360 more minutes just gonna turn that turn that down for a little longer yeah my ex-girlfriend had a
00:43:29.920 friend who was uh hard of hearing and uh she could uh adjust the volume in her ears or something and
00:43:36.480 i always kind of was jealous of that i was like man you could really just turn off your hearing if
00:43:39.920 you don't want it if you don't want to listen to something my opa does that but he often will just
00:43:44.320 like pretend not to hear things when he doesn't feel like talking about them
00:43:49.200 yeah all right guys i gotta hop off thanks yeah